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Should special needs children be euthanized?

 
KK
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I will pray for disabled children and grandchildren for these self-righteous idiots who are so ready to condemn.

:)

(liking the idea more and more, ahh divine justice!)
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i vote for euthanizing you
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Im not advocating it im just saying shouldnt parents have a choice?...they can choose to abort their child in their womb...so its pretty close to the same thing...if a child is screaming most of the day its like a untamed wild rabid animal.
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NO ITS NOT!!!!! Look into your own heart and grow some more, because things are there for a reason for everyone to learn from. Some of these things can be blamed directly on the Gov and their vaccinations. And they need to be dealt with by pissed off people, not have everyone pay these psycho's huge pensions and live under their thumbs.

Some of these lessons are for the individuals.

But EARTH IS A SCHOOL.

Not having compassion and getting it, means you might be looking at this sometime in a future life, unless you learn vicariously, by noticing people around you. WHy not volunteer, to help the mother out, communities need to pull together, and really do things for each other. You have to become the Higher Ups, while here, to inherit HOME and EUTOPIA.

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I am talking about the extreme cases of the kids...like they are so autistic they scream 20 hours of the day...when I see some single mothers faces with these children it looks like they would rather have them put down then to live with the shame and burden of caring for them every day.

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Make the companies that created them look after them:

[link to www.medpagetoday.com]

"Prenatal exposure to selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors (SSRIs) appears to be associated with increased chances of developing an autism spectrum disorder (ASD), although such an exposure is unlikely to explain many cases of autism, a case-control study showed"

When even the ever waffling big Pharma protecting medical establishment is forced to "sort of" admit we might have a problem. We have a problem. :)

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Have some special needs kids and ask yourself that question again? Honestly I have 2 kids with autism and they can be a handful, but they dont do nearly half the dumb shit "atypical" kids do. True they are hell on parents, which just means they need to dig deep for extra patience or die trying.

And you are so wrong about not making a meaningful contribution to society. Look around they are all about you. As high as 1 in 50 and you think you dont cross paths with them on a daily basis? You sound like a great pessimist. I bet when you see people with special needs you see a waste, where others see potential.

Autism can be treated quite effectively through consistent behavioral therapy and some medications (I would only suggest meds in extreme cases tho). Unfortunately for you, ignorance and stupidity is less treatable. Sorry.
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Actually, back in our (VERY RELIGIOUS) early Pioneer days when caring for a messed up child was out of the question, it was never allowed to have it's first breath at birth.

I think anymore, we need to go back to the early days when it was known that to bring anything that can't function properly especially into today's "dog eat dog" world is cruel beyond belief.

Once their parents die off they are institutionalized for their remaining days.
Let me institutionalize anyone of you functioning people for some years and see how fast you pray for death.
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Actually, back in our (VERY RELIGIOUS) early Pioneer days when caring for a messed up child was out of the question, it was never allowed to have it's first breath at birth.

I think anymore, we need to go back to the early days when it was known that to bring anything that can't function properly especially into today's "dog eat dog" world is cruel beyond belief.

Once their parents die off they are institutionalized for their remaining days.
Let me institutionalize anyone of you functioning people for some years and see how fast you pray for death.
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Perhaps, then we can raise the age as we go, perhaps eventually ending up at about 25 or so, so if they dont do anything with their lives we just abort them right, after all its our rights, not their lives.

Perhaps a sky burial then to the aryan gods.
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John9:

 2 And his disciples asked him, saying, Master, who did sin, this man, or his parents, that he was born blind?

 3 Jesus answered, Neither hath this man sinned, nor his parents: but that the works of God should be made manifest in him.




The works of God can be made manifest in both these special children and how we respond to them.

For instance when you see a mother at her last particle of patience do you stare and say ohh poor soul? Or do you actively size up a way to help her?

These people bless us to look beyond ourselves, stretch ourselves to do something generous for someone who may never ever be able to repay.

These situations created the fire of the refiner which polishes us up to reflect the Saviors love.

The Civilized will understand, this is what separates us from being of no worth and WORTHY.



hf
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The above post comes from a most beautiful soul. Thank you for exposing such an exquisite heart.

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i vote for euthanizing you
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Im not advocating it im just saying shouldnt parents have a choice?...they can choose to abort their child in their womb...so its pretty close to the same thing...if a child is screaming most of the day its like a untamed wild rabid animal.
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Sounds like the opinion you have formulated is now what you want to use as the basis for your facts?
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They certainly are being euthanized. Parents often find they cannot take care of such a demanding problem and turn them over to nursing facilities where doctors have their way with them placing them on many drugs, or it is even done while living with the parents. So are many adults & relatives of all ours, who find themselves in hospitals, or just on common statin cholesterol drugs, then diagnosed with 'cancer' put on highly toxic chemo drugs that cause numerous health problems.
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I am the mother of a special needs adult. He is the
light of our life. He has taught me to be loving, kind and
more spiritual than I ever thought I could be. He is truly a gift from a loving God.

Kill the handicapped, then we kill the aged, the orphans and
finally we start killing the poor and homeless and anyone
else we deem a burden. Maybe they will finally kill you.
When life has no value we lose our humanity. I pity you.
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i vote for euthanizing you
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It always starts with the test cases, and then it's everyone being killed. Baby K was the test case in Germany, which lead to thousands of physically and mentally disabled or slow children and adults being murdered in Germany. Many were loved by their family and held menial jobs, but that didn't matter. They were different and not perfect, so they had to be murdered.

Remember, before you encourage the murder of others, that you are not perfect. There is someone in this would who would like to put you out of your misery, or prevent you from breeding.


[link to www.fpp.co.uk]
By Irene Zoech in Berlin

GERMAN historians have identified the family whose request to Adolf Hitler that their disabled son be "put to sleep" was the catalyst for the Nazi euthanasia programme.

The five-month-old boy, who was given a lethal drug after Hitler sent his own doctor to examine him, has been named as Gerhard Kretschmar, the son of a farm hand.

The case was to provide the rationale for a secret Nazi decree that led to "mercy killings" of almost 300,000 mentally and physically handicapped people. The Kretschmars wanted their son dead but most of the other children were forcibly taken from their parents to be killed. A few days after Gerhard died in 1939, 15 psychiatrists were summoned to Hitler's Chancellery and told that a secret euthanasia programme - dreamed of by Hitler for more than a decade - was to be put into effect. Until this month, the boy was referred to only as "Case K", the term used by Nazi doctors when the programme was launched and at the subsequent Nuremberg war-crimes trials.

Now, Gerhard's name heads the first comprehensive list of victims of the euthanasia killings, unveiled in Berlin this month as a permanent and chilling reminder of one of Hitler's lesser-known extermination programmes. It was compiled over three years after painstaking research by German government archivists into 740 previously unknown files relating to the euthanasia programme.

The files, originally taken from Hitler's Chancellery, were uncovered in archives of the Stasi, the East German secret police. It was during his trial at Nuremberg that Karl Brandt, Hitler's personal doctor, revealed that an unnamed infant had provided the Nazis with the excuse to embark on creating a master race.

The baby's father, Richard Kretschmar, from the small Saxony town of Pomssen, near Leipzig, had written to Hitler's office in early 1939 asking for permission to kill his blind and deformed son. In his testimony, Dr Brandt said:

"The father of a deformed child wrote to the Fuhrer with a request to be allowed to take the life of this child or this creature. Hitler ordered me to take care of this case. The child had been born blind, seemed to be idiotic, and a leg and parts of the arm were missing."

The boy is believed to have been given luminal in the form of a dissolving tablet, causing unconsciousness and death after three to five days. The drug was later used on other victims of the euthanasia programme. Only a month after the baby's killing, in August 1939, Hitler's Interior Ministry issued the decree ordering the systematic annihilation of mentally and physically disabled children.
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[link to en.wikipedia.org]

War on Health

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zenobiaphobia
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Actually, back in our (VERY RELIGIOUS) early Pioneer days when caring for a messed up child was out of the question, it was never allowed to have it's first breath at birth.

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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9231012


My Great Grandmother used to charge a dollar for a regular delivery, $5 for a "guaranteed stillbirth"

Given that the OP is talking about autism, which shows no symptoms at birth, preemptive infant euthanasia is not practicable.

How about we cure them? If SSRIs cause the problem, that should give them more insight into how to fix it. If the money and impetus was there for research.

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Attempting to make a choice at birth between those that are weak and those that are not is both foolish and illogical. That, in and of itself, is one of the things that makes humans weak.

You cannot separate the wheat from the chaff unless it is allowed to mature first. Data is required in order to make logical choices.

At that point, the decision may be made. Not on race, social class, sex, or any other initial starting point - but rather by performance.

This is the new order, this IS the future.

Only the weak fear the future.
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Should special needs children be euthanized?
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The answer is yes. Put 'em out of their misery.
First they will stop suffering, sadly they will never work like a normal human.
Second their mothers can start a new life and have a healthy kid with a new healthy man.
Third the public will save up a lot of money currently diverted to keeping them alive.
Fourth let the natural selection do her work, this "special people" are unable to procreate healthy new humans, they're just a dead-end street in human evolution.

If it's possible the State should enforce abortion in case a "special one" is going to be created and if abortion is not possible they should be castrated/sterilized. No more down syndrome, extreme malformations, retards etc. etc.
Remember that in ancient times the mothers took the matter into their own hands, drowning or abandoning their defective offspring themselves so it's not such a shocking matter.
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anyone with an iq below 100 should get the ax.
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There goes GLP
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let the natural selection do her work, this "special people" are unable to procreate healthy new humans, they're just a dead-end street in human evolution.
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Autistic people can have perfectly normal children. Just sayin'
[link to www.autism.com]

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My co-host on my radio talk show is a severly physically disabled individual, who was born without arms, and short, unusable legs. He gets around in a motorized wheeelchair, lives alone, has a college degree, and is a Teacher by trade. He also serves on a local transportation board, and is a all-around community activist.
Some people might think he has no quality of life, but he has a better life than many people who do not have a darn thing wrong with them.
Who is anyone to judge the quality of life of another individual? Life is totally what you make of it. When you get lemons, you make lemonade, plain and simple. Not everyone will be a rocket scientist, a statesman, or the next greatest athlete, but all can contribute in their own way, to others on this rock, whether it be by their deeds, or by their outlook on life.
I am a mother of 2 special needs children, one by birth, and one by adoption. From my own experience, the problem was not my childrens disabilities, the problem is the attitudes of some people.
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Anyone who advocates eugenics as a viable catalyst for human evolution, should be the one to get the ax.
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Steven Hawking wouldn't be alive if you follow that line of thought
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somebody has a class project due soon I guess...such a stupid question
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Thus Hitler created the SS to serve as the new aristocracy, and a society of breeding to recreate the ancient Master Race. Though other Germans, as well as other Europeans who could not prove their lineage to the fourth generation, or who did not display the ideal genetic traits of their pure-blooded Aryan ancestors were still able to become affiliated with the Nazi cause as long as they were visibly a white Caucasian and did not display the obvious Semitic or Negroid traits of flat or hooked noses (not to be confused with the aquiline nose,) black tightly curled hair, or dark skin. Hitler, (who had brown hair) knew that it was common within European Caucasian families for siblings of the same parents to have either blonde, red, auburn or brown hair as well as varying shades of blue, to green, to brown eyes. The right of affiliation with the Nazi cause was also extended to members of non-White races (such as the Tibetans, the Japanese, those of Incan lineage, etc.) who historically interbred with ancient Aryan invaders, and were deemed to display cultural and genetic nobility bestowed upon them by their Aryan ancestors. Though the Japanese might not physically appear to display traits considered common of a pure-blood Aryan, this simply barred from becoming members of the elite SS.

In modern times despite the defeat of the Nazis by the Zionists Occupied Governments, Nazism has spread to every corner of the globe under the moniker of “Neo-Nazism” and is present within the nations of every populated continent. Made up of people who recognize their Aryan ancestry, and who understand the fight to maintain their racial hygiene, who endeavor to preserve their great lineage and to restore the greatness of their ancient race. Eugenics is still a facet of paramount importance within the Neo-Nazi movement, yet rather than being organized and regimented, it is left upon every member of the movement to choose his or her mate wisely, and to above all select the traits of high intellect and physical prowess when choosing a mate. For as long as there exists the descendents of the ancient Master Race who are aware of their special place within the scheme of human evolution, then there is hope for the future of this world.
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Thus Hitler created the SS to serve as the new aristocracy, and a society of breeding to recreate the ancient Master Race. Though other Germans, as well as other Europeans who could not prove their lineage to the fourth generation, or who did not display the ideal genetic traits of their pure-blooded Aryan ancestors were still able to become affiliated with the Nazi cause as long as they were visibly a white Caucasian and did not display the obvious Semitic or Negroid traits of flat or hooked noses (not to be confused with the aquiline nose,) black tightly curled hair, or dark skin. Hitler, (who had brown hair) knew that it was common within European Caucasian families for siblings of the same parents to have either blonde, red, auburn or brown hair as well as varying shades of blue, to green, to brown eyes. The right of affiliation with the Nazi cause was also extended to members of non-White races (such as the Tibetans, the Japanese, those of Incan lineage, etc.) who historically interbred with ancient Aryan invaders, and were deemed to display cultural and genetic nobility bestowed upon them by their Aryan ancestors. Though the Japanese might not physically appear to display traits considered common of a pure-blood Aryan, this simply barred from becoming members of the elite SS.

In modern times despite the defeat of the Nazis by the Zionists Occupied Governments, Nazism has spread to every corner of the globe under the moniker of “Neo-Nazism” and is present within the nations of every populated continent. Made up of people who recognize their Aryan ancestry, and who understand the fight to maintain their racial hygiene, who endeavor to preserve their great lineage and to restore the greatness of their ancient race. Eugenics is still a facet of paramount importance within the Neo-Nazi movement, yet rather than being organized and regimented, it is left upon every member of the movement to choose his or her mate wisely, and to above all select the traits of high intellect and physical prowess when choosing a mate. For as long as there exists the descendents of the ancient Master Race who are aware of their special place within the scheme of human evolution, then there is hope for the future of this world.
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Fool.
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Wow the veil iniquity manifesting in this thread is umnarable....

You will be the watchers from hell..you will be only aloud to see the soles of the glorious ones in Heaven.. Celebrating for an eternity while you ate tormented day and night for all eternity...


When the first moment of breath enters a newborns body....he is automatically at the frontlines of the spiritual battle...


Your conscious can eithor be guided by your demon, or the holy spirit...
Ex: the devil and angel on your shoulder...


Choose very wisely for wich one guides your heart... Because the outcome will determine the everlasting life your spirit will face....



just try to imagine hell.. Antone levey the author of the church of satan.. Screamed for gods mercy on his death bed...
Coincidence?
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Stop accepting kids being pumped with mercury from an early age. Problem solved.

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thou shalt not murder.


period.
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thou shalt not murder.


period.
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Thou shalt murder for the good of the many.
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Lets see, what would make the largest impact upon human society?

Euthanizing special needs humans?

or

Politicians, lawyers, judges, and corporatist?
Only a dumb fuck will not know the answer.

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