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The Truth about Hell - but the mainstream fundies can't accept it. and maybe you can't either
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I appreciate everyone's efforts and inputs.
I am learning that I don't do well with reading large amounts of text on-line that are addressing multiple topics. Probably an age thing. :)
But I want to come back to something I asked many pages ago: How has what you believe affected your day-to-day life? Is there anything "actionable" in what is being said and read?
Quoting: Life and Love I know what you mean. My eyes are a mess from computer excesses. I plan to read Dried UP Hag's, for love of name and avatar, but haven't yet. I know.: " Can't take it, but sure can dish it out!" [me, i mean] As to last paragraph, I benefit from being motivated by others' interest in what the Bible calls "the deep things of God" to look into questions that I may have also. E.g., things that may appear to be inconsistencies, but will turn out not to have been. This deepens my faith in Gods word, and makes me want to persist in learning in it. Then I want to talk about it more, and when I do, hopefully ppl will be able to sense that I'm 'not just whistlin' Dixie', but really, I mean really believe. I think the other 'debaters' toward the end of yesterday's thread have the same motive, and we end up being collaborative in each others' learning. Romans 12 "Consequently I entreat YOU by the compassions of God, brothers, to present YOUR bodies a sacrifice living, holy, acceptable to God, a sacred service with YOUR power of reason. 2 And quit being fashioned after this system of things, but be transformed by making YOUR mind over, that YOU may prove to yourselves the good and acceptable and perfect will of God." Is this from the NWT? I like the Philips version, which from memory uses the phrase: "Don't let the world squeeze you into its mold..." Where I differ from the way you cited Rom 12:2 is that your version makes it sound like the transformation is something WE do, whereas the sense of the text from my studies is that the transformation is the work of the Holy Spirit. The first part of v.2 ("conformed to the world") is an outside-in activity and could include society's norms, world systems, dogmatic teachers, and even church doctrine. The second part of v.2 ("be transformed") is an inside-out process which the examples I gave for the first part of the verse can never do. (A side note: the Greek word used for "transformed" in Rom 12:2 is the same Greek word used for "transfigured" in Matt.17.)
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