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I'm confused about Enki - somebody clarify

 
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There exist Gods beyond them as evidenced in the very first verse of Genesis.
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so why aren't we reading their words
instead of Annunaki words ???

why didn't they have a religion
and want us to worship them ???
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Yeah, we are god's grandchildren.
But how psyched would you be if your kid had sex with a farm animal?

Don't assume god loves us.

God and the annunaki are different subjects really.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18970863


very true

however, our religious books
combine them so we have no choice.
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if you look at the fact that they used advanced genetics to create or "edit" the human race, they should not be considered god/devil and good/bad, but simply beings that performed a certain action.

Perhaps more advanced than us, but certainly no more gods than we are.

perhaps you could see Enki as a sort of humanitarian, or perhaps as a crazed dr. Frankenstein.

and Enlil as the voice of reason, or the system, bend on following rules at all costs.

perhaps seeing earth as a perfect opportunity for the study of evolution, somewhat helped along the way with genetics hehe.
Maybe also as some sort of expression of freedom and creation.
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would love to view it like that

but after seeing news about
Luciferian sacrifice rituals,
that is kinda hard to fathom.
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I think the sacrifice rituals were started after the gods left to appease their return, but actually may have been co-opted by the reptilians for darker purposes, dark arts, etc. IMO, some of the rituals (ie., Bohemian grove) to this day have been so twisted by the "game of telephone" throughout history that I don't think the people performing them really have a clue as to what their ceremonies are for (although THEY think they do).

Also, should mention that Marduk/Ra/Nimrod could be considered Satan ... because it was during his reign that many of the 'satanic' ceremonies (in their original form) were started.
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The Bible does not source the creator of heaven and earth. It only provides those who manipulated the elements that already existed. What elohim did was to cultivate the land and map out the heavens and set up the lunar calendar. They then passed that knowledge onto Adam and Pre-adamites.
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I would agree with that.

so why don't the Annunaki
cite the creator God in their archives ???

maybe they don't even know
who did it ???

well I was just passing along
the road today and found a dollar
on the side of the road,
don't know how it got there or
who made it/lost it

but I sure spent it when I got
to town
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perhaps the true origin was simplified, if we were created and thought to have less mental capabilities than our creators, then the story of the creation of Earth from the remnants of Tiamat was changed slightly to only cover our percieved reality.
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nooooooooo, even in sumerian tales it says humans are mixed humanoids with anunaki dna(?) so you have humanoids on earth

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so if left up to the creator alone,
we'd still be picking our nose
around a camp fire knocking
women over the head to get laid
in 2012.
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The campfire might be a bit optimistic.
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Well if there are two bosses and one wants you to slave away in a gold mine and the other wants to teach you to be self sufficient, who do think is the good guy?
Enlil sent men to the mines (hell) for not behaving.

Hermes is Thoth, aka ningishzidda, enki's son. Marduk's younger half brother.

Enki cocreated man with his sister, ninharsag.


If you are looking for corroboration, look to the Hindu Vedas .

Always remember those stories are biased toward the ruling god of the area.

In Turkey, there is a mound of rocks with statues on both sides. Thought to have been built by antiachus (sp?) the bearded statue is enki, and the woman is ninharsag. Their genetics lab is close by, I suspect. It is fairly close to Gobekli Tepe too.
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Good post. To clarify, I originally mentioned that Hermes Thrice Great was Enki in my 1st post, but I agree that the above in bold is correct. That would also mean the Emerald Tablets were created by Hermes/Thoth/ Ningishzidda
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perhaps the true origin was simplified, if we were created and thought to have less mental capabilities than our creators, then the story of the creation of Earth from the remnants of Tiamat was changed slightly to only cover our percieved reality.
 Quoting: Michael_


well maybe

but there is a difference between
being over simplified and a downright
fabrication.
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nooooooooo, even in sumerian tales it says humans are mixed humanoids with anunaki dna(?) so you have humanoids on earth

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25365106



so if left up to the creator alone,
we'd still be picking our nose
around a camp fire knocking
women over the head to get laid
in 2012.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25349032


The campfire might be a bit optimistic.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18970863


lol
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It's all fiction. Clearer?
 Quoting: Meggarea


this....
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It's all fiction. Clearer?
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is Sitchin fiction as well ???

is the Sumerian Tablets fiction as well ???
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Well i ask you is the Bible fiction as well??
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because those gods did not care to write as they used higher forms of communication - symbols. You are talking about gods that pre date writing; these are the gods archaec men worshiped.

There exist Gods beyond them as evidenced in the very first verse of Genesis.
 Quoting: BZB


so why aren't we reading their words
instead of Annunaki words ???

why didn't they have a religion
and want us to worship them ???
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25349032
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so if left up to the creator alone,
we'd still be picking our nose
around a camp fire knocking
women over the head to get laid
in 2012.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25365106


My understanding of human history is as you describe it above. For the past several thousand years "man" has been doing just that. Nothing has changed. Men continue to use domination, violence and coersion to get their way.
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It's all fiction. Clearer?
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is Sitchin fiction as well ???

is the Sumerian Tablets fiction as well ???
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25349032


Well i ask you is the Bible fiction as well??
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I believe parts of it are

however, the Eluna Elish is all
from one source and dated to the time
period of the signed author.

the Bible can't claim that.

The KJV of the Holy Bible does not
match the Codex Sinaticus.
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because each successive generation of gods rebel against the previous ones. Gods do not credit previous gods. Thats how it works right down to humanity. Do you think the White Western world would credit the people of color for their inventions? Of course not! LOL It is called the changing of the guards; to the victor goes the spoils, the victor rewrites history to his advantage.




The Bible does not source the creator of heaven and earth. It only provides those who manipulated the elements that already existed. What elohim did was to cultivate the land and map out the heavens and set up the lunar calendar. They then passed that knowledge onto Adam and Pre-adamites.
 Quoting: BZB


I would agree with that.

so why don't the Annunaki
cite the creator God in their archives ???

maybe they don't even know
who did it ???

well I was just passing along
the road today and found a dollar
on the side of the road,
don't know how it got there or
who made it/lost it

but I sure spent it when I got
to town
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because those gods did not care to write as they used higher forms of communication - symbols. You are talking about gods that pre date writing; these are the gods archaec men worshiped.
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is the part where I ask you
which came first, the chicken
or the egg ???

and who are these archaic men
who were illiterate ???
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because each successive generation of gods rebel against the previous ones. Gods do not credit previous gods. Thats how it works right down to humanity. Do you think the White Western world would credit the people of color for their inventions? Of course not! LOL It is called the changing of the guards; to the victor goes the spoils, the victor rewrites history to his advantage.
 Quoting: BZB


think about what you just said.

you just said that the Gods who created this
universe were NOT perfect.

this is not what our current religious
books imply. Therefore, they are
fabricated.
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I'm really disappointed that no one here knows mauro biglino.
sitchin is a little, when compared with mauro.
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well I have a hard time understanding
Italian.

and I hate reading subtitles for
a 2 hr video.
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The subtitles were written by someone who understands exactly what he is saying, and Maruo Biglino's books are in yale's library, and not many scholars can do that. He's credentialed.

Also, it's well worth, after watching the video, to actually order his book, download.

I found it extremely interesting and well written, and I bought the English version.
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illiterate to western form of communication. but they'd as quickly accuse you of being illiterate to the higher psychic and symbolic forms of communication.

It is simple, all depends on frame of reference. The universe is split in two potential and one real dimension, past, future and present, respectively.

Egg came before the chicken in the future universe, as in the future you look forward to backward. The chicken came before the egg in the past universe, as in the past you look from backward to forward.



because those gods did not care to write as they used higher forms of communication - symbols. You are talking about gods that pre date writing; these are the gods archaec men worshiped.
 Quoting: BZB


is the part where I ask you
which came first, the chicken
or the egg ???

and who are these archaic men
who were illiterate ???
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where did i say what you are accusing me of saying? please quote me.


because each successive generation of gods rebel against the previous ones. Gods do not credit previous gods. Thats how it works right down to humanity. Do you think the White Western world would credit the people of color for their inventions? Of course not! LOL It is called the changing of the guards; to the victor goes the spoils, the victor rewrites history to his advantage.
 Quoting: BZB


think about what you just said.

you just said that the Gods who created this
universe were NOT perfect.

this is not what our current religious
books imply. Therefore, they are
fabricated.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25349032
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The archaec men are the early homo sapiens who had not left Africa. This is pre out of africa migration.
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Enlil is a tyrant who loves to rule over slaves, and his slaves love being ruled by him. Sounds like the Muslims 2.
(and to an txtent, the Slavs - The Russians borrowed their preference for Absolute Authoritarian kings from the Byzantines, who copied the Persian "oriental despots".

Alexander came from the Hellenistic West, who (we are told) invented the ideas of individual freedom and of gods who encouraged humans to experiment and be all they can be.
This sounds like the god-figures of the Freemasons, the Rosicrucians and even the Illuminati. Jefferson's idea of a benign, avuncular (uncle-like) Divine helper and Way-shower.
That seems to be Enki. No wonder the East thinks we in the West are "infidels and heritics", while we in the West think the Easterners are the Enemy: lovers of tyranny and the enemies of liberty (Enki's gift to us).
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It is simple, all depends on frame of reference. The universe is split in two potential and one real dimension, past, future and present, respectively.

Egg came before the chicken in the future universe, as in the future you look forward to backward. The chicken came before the egg in the past universe, as in the past you look from backward to forward.
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lol
I swear you are sounding more
like David dIcke every time you post.

You should take that dog and pony show
on the road bro ;)

you are sitting here telling me about the time
before recorded history

and I'm just supposed to take your word ???

were you there ???

do you have references ???
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i am not making anything up. the proof is here; archeology. Homosapiens recorded their beliefs in drawings/symbols. You're not aware of the drawings of proto humanity?


It is simple, all depends on frame of reference. The universe is split in two potential and one real dimension, past, future and present, respectively.

Egg came before the chicken in the future universe, as in the future you look forward to backward. The chicken came before the egg in the past universe, as in the past you look from backward to forward.
 Quoting: BZB


lol
I swear you are sounding more
like David dIcke every time you post.

You should take that dog and pony show
on the road bro ;)

you are sitting here telling me about the time
before recorded history

and I'm just supposed to take your word ???

were you there ???

do you have references ???
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where did i say what you are accusing me of saying? please quote me.


because each successive generation of gods rebel against the previous ones. Gods do not credit previous gods. Thats how it works right down to humanity. Do you think the White Western world would credit the people of color for their inventions? Of course not! LOL It is called the changing of the guards; to the victor goes the spoils, the victor rewrites history to his advantage.
 Quoting: BZB


think about what you just said.

you just said that the Gods who created this
universe were NOT perfect.

this is not what our current religious
books imply. Therefore, they are
fabricated.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25349032

 Quoting: BZB


Gods who do not credit previous Gods
are lying

therefore they are not perfect
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evidence:

[link to images.search.yahoo.com]
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I will ask you again, where did i say THIS:

"... the Gods who created this
universe were NOT perfect."



where did i say what you are accusing me of saying? please quote me.


because each successive generation of gods rebel against the previous ones. Gods do not credit previous gods. Thats how it works right down to humanity. Do you think the White Western world would credit the people of color for their inventions? Of course not! LOL It is called the changing of the guards; to the victor goes the spoils, the victor rewrites history to his advantage.
 Quoting: BZB


think about what you just said.

you just said that the Gods who created this
universe were NOT perfect.

this is not what our current religious
books imply. Therefore, they are
fabricated.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25349032

 Quoting: BZB


Gods who do not credit previous Gods
are lying

therefore they are not perfect
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i am not making anything up. the proof is here; archeology. Homosapiens recorded their beliefs in drawings/symbols. You're not aware of the drawings of proto humanity?
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Trombetti estimated

does not make it fact
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lol!! you have a long way to go in your studies. One day in the distant future of your life you will reflect on our conversation.

i am not making anything up. the proof is here; archeology. Homosapiens recorded their beliefs in drawings/symbols. You're not aware of the drawings of proto humanity?
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Trombetti estimated

does not make it fact
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I have some memories prior to Sumar, Atlantis period, which if you cross reference Mauro Biglino's work and the Sumar labs, that all coincided with the out of Africa era of about 280 000 years ago.

Now, several million years ago, there was a cycle of humans here, cosmic ones, more memories and soul ablities and technology, different races. That was the cycle relating to Mu/Lemuria and Mars, and it was probably in this realm.

Those cave men, weren't exactly cave men, but survivors of catastrophe.

Our system fell. Due to bad dealing, inequality mainly.


The tests are always related to Love and Equality and overcoming Retaliation and Bloodlust.

You can't reach Higher on Jacob's Infinite Ladder without overcoming earth tests. And Universe tests. Realm tests.

Annanuki is not just one race. In the past there was pleiades, Lyra, Taurus, Sirius, Orion, and since the north star currently points to draco, it must be included.

And lets not forget the Royal Zeta Reticuli, for these greys had a big role in all of this.

And the Annanuki did the lab work for THIS ERA, not the past ones, the ancient cycles, this more modern, 280 000 year cycle.

Literally our system fell from a higher realm. And mars suffered severe damage and earth had crustal changes and a huge deluge.

Due to cosnequences and karma we fell into the hands of those in this realm, and they worked at rebuilding. Consequences occurred, and management changed.

Marduk is the one you think of as satan, who was one of the created, Annanuki splinter hybrid groups of a kind of reptilian warrior, and there were different models, some look reptilian and some are human looking predators.

They were rounded up and chased off.

I see Enki/Enlil and the Annanuki escapades as CHILDISH, so this realm is still, Peter Pan's Lost Boys or Kids who are trying to learn to ride their bike wihtout training wheels.

We need to go Up The Ladder.

So do they.

True Creator is outside the Duality Realms, where you can fall.


And true Creator(s) is misunderstood, for we're in Infinity and Infinite Realms, Infinite Energies, Both Infinite Intelligence and Inanimate.

Who we call Creator is Mom/Dad, and Family, Love/Goodness, and they're OUR FAMILY GROUPING, HUMAN PARENTS, and Earth is a mirror of our home on the other side of the mirror.

We're in a shadow testing ground, kind of simulated reality, school.

They are too. All the ETS in the realm are too!

No one in the Universe has passed the tests yet or they would be in Higher Realms.

Not our universe in other words.

Each ladder rung is a universe.

But in reality we have a Mom/Dad (as above so below), Uncles and Aunts, Grandparents, Great Grandparents, Great Great Grandparents, unto infinity and same with Great Aunts and Uncles and Many Brother/Sister/Cousins.

The Only ONE we could ever call GOD, is the Spirit of Love and Peace that joins all the Infinite Souls together, like Fibre Optics.

But we do a really good family.

But we have to overcome all the lower frequency harm of others to even go back home.

So do the Annanuki and all ETs in every realm.

Last Edited by Sungaze_At_Dawn on 10/11/2012 12:26 PM

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