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Dune film illuminati

 
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hack attack ?

"The target of the Jihad was a machine-attitude as much as the machines," Leto said. "Humans had set those machines to usurp our sense of beauty, our necessary selfdom out of which we make living judgments. Naturally, the machines were destroyed."
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I wonder if the power of SOUND as a mortal weapon was an inspiration taken from Bible description of the collapse of Jericho's walls... plus Hindu mantras.
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And the meaning of the worms producing the liquid of life:
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Is it a metaphor of kundalini?
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[link to fotolog.terra.com.mx]
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Or the kundalini of the whole planet GAIA?
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"Fear is the mind killer".
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Now, in my mind's eye the dwellers of the desert planet have to wear proper clothing and I guess the dudes wearing black tight uniforms in Mexican desert must've bear unnamable torture filming original Dune. But it looked better than the later version! I guess the colors of such uniforms could mimic the desert. I would kept the soldiers uniforms reminiscing of Mussolini's black shirt fascist group.

I always confuse the participle of bear with the one of "born".. borne? "Must've borne"?
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Spice is not oil it is DMT
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We are the sandworms, or rather the sandworms are our collective unconscious. The spice is Loosh, which is harvested and used by the Archonic clans which rule and run the universe.
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Dune was one of my favorite childhood movies from the 80's and I have watched it at least 30 times.

I think the main problem was fitting a novels worth of story into a movie without it being 8 hours long.

I would like to see a modern day remaking of Dune but not as a 2 hour movie, it should probably be a 3D animated series of films or maybe an ongoing television series or miniseries.
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Prove that he was a "33rd degree mason" or stfu and keep jacking it to David Ike
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If there is one movie that deserves an awesome remake it is DUNE!

More references from the series that can be looked at:

"Other Memories" in the Bene Gesserit can be likened to mtDNA - awakening the memories of female lineage.

Bashar Teg's superhuman metamorphosis (and his training in martial arts).

Sheeana, return of the worm riders (second coming or prophetess - female?).

God emperor fusing with another life form to extend life for thousands of years.

Machine crusade and AI (Bhutlerian jihad).

Prohibition on atomics (nukes).




So many facets in Herbert's books that make it the ultimate Sci Fi series. Also raises so many questions.
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"Other Memories" in the Bene Gesserit can be likened to mtDNA - awakening the memories of female lineage.


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That and DMT hallucinogen FX is something important and if you ever heard Jodorowsky you'll understand his interest. The actress S. Young who played in DUNE and was the female replicant whom Deckard loves, said Lynch was a guy interested in his private life into meditation and also inspired her in that path.

This makes me think in the film ALTERED STATES in which scientist intaking mescalito and hallucinogen mushrooms floats in that immersion tank completely isolated from external noise. Floats in salt water and gets back in time even having a proto-man metamorphosis and becoming energy beyond the barriers of time.

Makes me think in a wonderful film that was never done: Return to the Apes, produced by James Cameron and written & directed by Oliver Stone, starred by Schwarzenegger. The trip to Ice Age and 100.000 years TO THE PAST was not gonna be via spaceship but using DNA and geneticist Will Robinson (a fake name because he felt "lost in space" after casualties and dead people using that system) would decode the virus that would create doom on earth: babies being born with a disease like being old people. A virus spreading in the whole planet.

It seems obvious to me, after reading the plot, the producers and script writers of RISE of the Planet of the Apes, borrowed a lot from that script.
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I don't think it's mere coincidence the actor hired for DUNE remake was William Hurt who also appeared in Altered States:
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In the same way it's not coincidence Keanu Reeves was Neo in Matrix as well as Johny Mnemotic and Siddartha in Little Buda (in a scene where he says the whole world is sleeping).
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[link to fotolog.terra.com.mx]
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Cool - I'm going to have to look into the movies that you listed. I just threw out a bunch of the weird associations that I came up with reading the DUNE series, mtDNA being an insight after studying archaeology and genetics.

Remember the futars? More DNA / cross species allusion.

DUNE is more than a simple allegory for war with the ME, that's for damn sure and a series that is without peer IMO.

And memories - I used to watch classic Planet of the Apes with my dad! Loved RISE too.
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Awesome illustrations BTW.
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Very interesting!

Paul Maudib = the AntiChrist? or the second coming?
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i said it a couple of years ago and i will say it again

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Cool - I'm going to have to look into the movies that you listed. I just threw out a bunch of the weird associations that I came up with reading the DUNE series, mtDNA being an insight after studying archaeology and genetics.

Remember the futars? More DNA / cross species allusion.

DUNE is more than a simple allegory for war with the ME, that's for damn sure and a series that is without peer IMO.

And memories - I used to watch classic Planet of the Apes with my dad! Loved RISE too.
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Also, there's the Tleilaxu belief that "DNA is the language of God"
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what an awesome game that was! One of my favorites in my teenage years. Good times..


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R.I.P. for the real Wubbo Ockels. He was a true icon of my country, and a great front-fighter for sustainable energie/technology and humanism.

"Yes, we have hurdles, we have distractions, we have disasters, personally and world-wide, and we do have to work it all out ourselves. BUT, there is a most amazing experience awaiting us on the other end of the finish-line.
The idea being, once we can handle it all down here, then we can live and explore eternally, responsibly, because we know what not to do, and not be resentful about being responsible, so we don't start a polarity domino effect in the other realms of existence."

"The Fraction" of Life can be increased in value not so much by increasing your Numerator as by lessening your Denominator. Nay, unless my Algebra deceive me, Unity itself divided by Zero will give Infinity."

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Cool - I'm going to have to look into the movies that you listed. I just threw out a bunch of the weird associations that I came up with reading the DUNE series, mtDNA being an insight after studying archaeology and genetics.

Remember the futars? More DNA / cross species allusion.

DUNE is more than a simple allegory for war with the ME, that's for damn sure and a series that is without peer IMO.

And memories - I used to watch classic Planet of the Apes with my dad! Loved RISE too.
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Also, there's the Tleilaxu belief that "DNA is the language of God"
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Going further with the Tleilaxu - their cells carried on their bodies for cloning. Comatose / butchered females being the tanks they replicated themselves in. Also synthesized spice, produced in tanks.

Honored Matures using tantric sex to bind males, also being a cross species. Deadly martial arts techniques.


I'm quite enjoying this thread!
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Benni Gesserit thing...


makes me think about Mathew genealogy of Christ including some women with dubious history. Genesis account suggests the real sin of the snake was not a lie because God confirms everything stated by this seraphim winged-snake "hanashash" (not a literal snake "nahash"). The thing done by that dragon original snake was done with Eve..begetting Cain. So the names of genealogy comparing Cain and Seth switch the names of fathers with children but are very similar except changing some letters/numbers here and there. There are two Lamech, one being avanged 77 times or generations while the other lives 777 years; two Enoch, one Enosh, one Jared and other Irad (which is also wrong translation because letter "j" was invented 1600 years after Christ and coming from letter "i", hence the dot above the letter and the setting right together, abcdefgh..I..J), because in Middle Ages people turn the tail of the "i" or iota to the left, hence 'j'. So that Jared was merely Iared. There' one Cainan or little Cain. In a nutshell GENESIS WAS HIDING THE MOTHER SIDE OF THE LINEAGE RELATED WITH THE REPTILE SPIRITUAL SERAPHIM.
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Paul was a sort of Messiah related with those women... water of life... Apocalypse visions... Moses hitting the rock in Sinai to provide water...
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this subject is very amusing and informative however it is also under a kind of jinx i find hard to explain. assured that the kabbalistic issues paper over historic matters whose wider implications are not to debated at this time
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Benni Gesserit thing...


makes me think about Mathew genealogy of Christ including some women with dubious history. Genesis account suggests the real sin of the snake was not a lie because God confirms everything stated by this seraphim winged-snake "hanashash" (not a literal snake "nahash"). The thing done by that dragon original snake was done with Eve..begetting Cain. So the names of genealogy comparing Cain and Seth switch the names of fathers with children but are very similar except changing some letters/numbers here and there. There are two Lamech, one being avanged 77 times or generations while the other lives 777 years; two Enoch, one Enosh, one Jared and other Irad (which is also wrong translation because letter "j" was invented 1600 years after Christ and coming from letter "i", hence the dot above the letter and the setting right together, abcdefgh..I..J), because in Middle Ages people turn the tail of the "i" or iota to the left, hence 'j'. So that Jared was merely Iared. There' one Cainan or little Cain. In a nutshell GENESIS WAS HIDING THE MOTHER SIDE OF THE LINEAGE RELATED WITH THE REPTILE SPIRITUAL SERAPHIM.
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(Interesting stuff. Regarding Genesis, I speculate that God maybe delegated the creation of mankind to some of His higher angels, perhaps with certain parameters, which resulted in our various races of human. "Let us create man in our image", yes? Not a big deal, but not out of the question, for me, anyhow.)
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Tantric sex indeed. Who was the first teaching that to men? Isaaiah mentions Lillith in a context about goat-men demons or satyres. Leviticus mentions the scapegoat in the desert as a sacrifice to Azazel. Me thinks Samael taught these things prior to the coming of the alien male creatures who materialized and had intercourse with earthly women. I don't know if DUNE books have any reference to these things.

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