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Anyway I mentioned these things because the women in Dune are like Egyptian or Inca priesthood in a way and related with Paul/Messiah and to me the worms are like snakes. But in these cases worms sprouting out of the planet. But the planet is also the very sand and dust we are made of, right?
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The short rundown on the Honoured Matres is that they had their heritage in a breakaway Bene Gesserit group that fled to the outer reaches of space during a diaspora that took place after the God Emperor's death. Their tantric ways, a bastardized version of spice, and futars all come from the unexplored areas of the universe.

I have to re-read to recall all of the specifics, but yes, it kind of follows the commentary you have on Eve. "Alien" origins in a very specific lineage.
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this subject is very amusing and informative however it is also under a kind of jinx i find hard to explain. assured that the kabbalistic issues paper over historic matters whose wider implications are not to debated at this time
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Please, I am not at all knowledgeable in anything related to kabbalistic issues and would love to hear more. I'm interested -only if it doesn't jinx you : )
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this subject is very amusing and informative however it is also under a kind of jinx i find hard to explain. assured that the kabbalistic issues paper over historic matters whose wider implications are not to debated at this time
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Please, I am not at all knowledgeable in anything related to kabbalistic issues and would love to hear more. I'm interested -only if it doesn't jinx you : )
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most of it is fraudulent while some of it intentionally covers up very banal connections and genealogy. what does work though should not be invoked lightheartedly. i do not say this as blame or a warning only a statement of opinion.
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maybe illuminati central is now reading passages of Dune backward to exorcise me LOL
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The short rundown on the Honoured Matres is that they had their heritage in a breakaway Bene Gesserit group that fled to the outer reaches of space during a diaspora that took place after the God Emperor's death. Their tantric ways, a bastardized version of spice, and futars all come from the unexplored areas of the universe.

I have to re-read to recall all of the specifics, but yes, it kind of follows the commentary you have on Eve. "Alien" origins in a very specific lineage.
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The spice is blue and to me that's a reference to royal elite blood.... back to Eve and Satan offspring, Genesis 3:15.
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Star Wars was created because Lucas' knowledge about Joseph Campbell and his understanding of mythology which Lucas studied. Interesting is the women in DUNE behave like Campbell's monomyth. In this case genetics and religious façade to shape the MALE HERO which is Paul.
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What I wonder is why the author of Dune chose Muslim path and not the traditional Jewish or Greek thought, Paul became the MAHDI of the Freman... the whole thing is very Arabic.... ISHMAEL rather than ISAAC....????
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this subject is very amusing and informative however it is also under a kind of jinx i find hard to explain. assured that the kabbalistic issues paper over historic matters whose wider implications are not to debated at this time
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37209212


Please, I am not at all knowledgeable in anything related to kabbalistic issues and would love to hear more. I'm interested -only if it doesn't jinx you : )
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1166331


most of it is fraudulent while some of it intentionally covers up very banal connections and genealogy. what does work though should not be invoked lightheartedly. i do not say this as blame or a warning only a statement of opinion.
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Duly noted. I will read into the subject - any recs?

No, I don't think you're being exorcised : )
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What I wonder is why the author of Dune chose Muslim path and not the traditional Jewish or Greek thought, Paul became the MAHDI of the Freman... the whole thing is very Arabic.... ISHMAEL rather than ISAAC....????
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What of the mothers? What knowledge did Hagar possess over that which Sarah may have known? A case of more practical magic?

I don't know what the answer might be. I don't know what sort of arcane knowledge Islam might have had in the past.

The Honoured Matre spice was orange. Yet another tidbit.
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We are the sandworms, or rather the sandworms are our collective unconscious. The spice is Loosh, which is harvested and used by the Archonic clans which rule and run the universe.
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Okay, after a cursory glance at loosh, I read that through the allegory we are "god in eternal slumber", as a pearl of Leto II's consciousness remained present in worms after his death.

The sleeper must awaken.
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If this spice is "sloosh" or the energy from which Archons feed, then what's sleeping must NOT be awaken, must it?
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Right. The sleeper is the Illuminiti's goal of Godhood.
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Right. The sleeper is the Illuminiti's goal of Godhood.
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What I wonder is why the author of Dune chose Muslim path and not the traditional Jewish or Greek thought, Paul became the MAHDI of the Freman... the whole thing is very Arabic.... ISHMAEL rather than ISAAC....????
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What of the mothers? What knowledge did Hagar possess over that which Sarah may have known? A case of more practical magic?

I don't know what the answer might be. I don't know what sort of arcane knowledge Islam might have had in the past.

The Honoured Matre spice was orange. Yet another tidbit.
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Ishmael is Ish-Maal in Hebrew, and in Sanskrit, Ish-Mahal means “Great Shiva.” Isaac is Ishaak in Hebrew, and Ishakhu in Sanskrit - which means “Friend of Siva.” Most startling of all is the very name of Abraham himself, which could mean that Abraham was nothing other than a Naga King - Ab Ram actually means “exalted snake.”

Hagar was EGYPTIAN and she besides Urias' wife BATHSHEBA were among Christ's lineage. Batsheba probably HITTITE like Urias himself.

In the Koran we read Abraham's dad was Azir or Osiris.
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PROMETHEUS SKULL was to be part of DUNE, check other images:
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I gotta check out that film someday, this is all very interesting.
I remember playing dune2 when growing up, and I absolute loved it.
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I gotta check out that film someday, this is all very interesting.
I remember playing dune2 when growing up, and I absolute loved it.
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Do that and if you can buy the DVD, you'll never know if these films will be available in the future! I have never read the books but I bet someone who has shall discover important hidden things. I have just bought other DVDs like Soylent Green, Capricorn One, Omega Man, Westworld. Even the selection of actors is important. We are talking about TANTRA SEX and they hired Sting who's been practicing that with his woman for years. Lynch the director has done meditation and also the actress who appeared in that film and Blade Runner, Sean Young. Jodorowsky who was gonna do his version of DUNE is someone who is a specialist in TAROT and does speeches about it and surrealist artist SALVADOR DALI was gonna play the emperor who had a ROBOT duplication of himself. PINK FLOYD who is linked with Stanley Kubrick films and Wizard of Oz was gonna do the music. Nothing is mere accident or coincidence and if you doubt me check my thread about Brandon Lee CROW and Ledger's JOKER...
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Dune was a film in the 80s directed by David Lynch that had many symbolisms to it. The writer who wrote the book Franke Herbert was a 33 degree mason
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I'm sure you have evidence for this assertion you are going to post any moment now.

and put the elites plans in his books by predicted the iraq invasion.
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And not any other invasion of a resource-rich country?

Here are a few simmilarties between the story and real life:

Shaddam IV- Saddam Hussein

Vladimir Harkkonen - Dick Cheney

Emperor - Bush

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Shaddam IV is the emperor.

Anyhoo, Dune World was published in 1963.

Who were Hussein, Cheney, and Bush in in 1963?
They were nobodies.
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Reaching for the sky makes you taller.

Hi! My name is Halcyon Dayz and I'm addicted to morans.
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In case you haven't noticed O.P. who posted that is not posting anything for a long time so far. I just dropped by where others have left.

Meanwhile, DUNE is not the only film revealing hidden codes. TOTAL RECALL, CAPRICORN ONE, RED PLANET & MISSION MARS do have their own as you can read here ... I mean in case you have interest and overall PATIENCE:

Thread: total recall hidden codes
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Dune was one of my favorite books. I wondered how are they going to take a book made up of thoughts and prophecy. I guess they did a good job!
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BTW, answering the question not addressed to me anyways, about who was Hussein, I guess in your nation you are not used to much reading. Indulge yourself anyway:
[link to www.nytimes.com]
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Dune was one of my favorite books. I wondered how are they going to take a book made up of thoughts and prophecy. I guess they did a good job!
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I guess the movie needed a trilogy filmed in 3D with Jodorowsky's concept of presenting a LSD trip without using LSD.
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BTW, answering the question not addressed to me anyways, about who was Hussein, I guess in your nation you are not used to much reading. Indulge yourself anyway:
[link to www.nytimes.com]
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In 1962, George H W Bush was asked to run for chairman of Houston's Harris County Republican Party in an effort to keep the rabidly anti-Communist John Birch Society from gaining control over the party. After he won, to the dismay of traditional Republicans, Bush gave the Birchers jobs in the party. His interest was to expand a party that hardly existed in Texas. The next year he saw another opportunity to expand the party when Democratic president John F. Kennedy proposed civil rights legislation that led segregationists to abandon their party in favor of the Republicans. Bush welcomed them. "I thought it gave our party a bad name," said Bush supporter Marjorie Arsht, "but George didn't see a thing wrong with it."
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Maybe the coined term of "illuminati" serves a purpose of waking up the mass population to a higher level of consciousness. Whether intentional or not. The inspiration of these songs/words/movies serves a higher purpose. Just listen to the words of the majority of music out there. The one and only message it brings across is to WAKE UP. You're responsible for yourself. Stop feeding the beast with unnecessary mind chatter and false beliefs. We're living in a heaven right now, but everyone's too asleep to realize it. [link to www.truthcontest.com]
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Maybe the coined term of "illuminati" serves a purpose of waking up the mass population to a higher level of consciousness. Whether intentional or not. The inspiration of these songs/words/movies serves a higher purpose. Just listen to the words of the majority of music out there. The one and only message it brings across is to WAKE UP. You're responsible for yourself. Stop feeding the beast with unnecessary mind chatter and false beliefs. We're living in a heaven right now, but everyone's too asleep to realize it. [link to www.truthcontest.com]
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The music industri is heavy controlled by "The Illuminati" and they promote luceferian symbolism hidden in music videos of the most popular artists, Katy Parry, Rihanna, Kesha and all that other trash that is repeated on the radio day after day.

I recomend visit vigilant-citizen com to get a hint to how much.
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Maybe the coined term of "illuminati" serves a purpose of waking up the mass population to a higher level of consciousness. Whether intentional or not. The inspiration of these songs/words/movies serves a higher purpose. Just listen to the words of the majority of music out there. The one and only message it brings across is to WAKE UP. You're responsible for yourself. Stop feeding the beast with unnecessary mind chatter and false beliefs. We're living in a heaven right now, but everyone's too asleep to realize it. [link to www.truthcontest.com]
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Awareness of our sad condition like Osho, Gurdjiev, Ramakrishna, Krishnamurti, Buda and even Christ taught (the link is quoting from Thomas Gospel which is important indeed) , that consciousness doesn't mean we are in heaven right now. We are and have been in hell as a matter of fact as history proves. Awareness of that "while you call it now or today" doesn't change that awful reality and existencialism in matter but a momentary flashback or a flick of that which could be in other state of reality. Anyone could also say the very link you have put here is MIND CHATTER and false belief statements and that makes evident anyone chooses WHAT to believe in different particular sources of our liking. Anyway, I said before maybe what is sleeping must not be awaken as the film suggests and now you wrote "stop feeding the beast". When you don't feed you'll add STARVATION and the fury or wrath of the beast rises up like hungry dogs which become hungry wolves.

Even if you do nothing and try to be aware of your thoughts like passing clouds while you do your asana yoga position or whatever medition, fact is you and me GET BACK with the mind with this unbearable dense material reality. So, even those peaceful moments are mere escapism which lasts little time of the day or night. Then get back to square one.
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PAN playing the flute to activate hologram in PROMETHEUS and Scott using MOEBIUS art... the same guy who was hired to do DUNE
[link to alienexplorations.blogspot.com.br]
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I've just spent the past three days re-reading Heretics, Chapterhouse, and the sequels written by Herbert's son.

Chapterhouse has a reference to Masons - Darwi Odrade mused over "how far governance had come since the days of master masons on earth". Paraphrasing, but unmistakable.


The choices and issues brought up in the later books really revolve around prescience and breaking away from being locked into a set future. Destruction of Rakis to over ride the Tyrant's path.

The culmination is acceptance of thinking machines. The final Kwisatz Haderach wasn't created through genetic superiority, rather experience over multiple ghola lifetimes.

Just musing over my latest foray into the books.





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