The moon's crookedness is caused by our going toward the center of the galactic plane

Wow, quite the admission. Says it all.

Even when I lose I still win.

First, I'm honest.

Second, the shills here do it but won't admit it.

Third, as of my writing my admissions in that thread, I had already won with you and all the rest on this thread and others. So there remained little incentive to keep all my cards to myself. I was hoping it would raise the ante up for me, to keep myself from being bored with the amount of so-far low difficulty I've encountered. And if it could also help someone in the future, all the better.

Fourth, winning on the technical fronts isn't sometimes desirable at all. When you pound someone and win, that can have the opposite effect on real people, with real emotions. You may have won technically, but you've lost the real battle. A lesson I think you know all too well, or should know.

I don't see posters flocking to your defense, I don't see you winning even on an "emotional" level, let alone on a technical level which you've now admitted you're wrong about. If the occasional idiot wants to praise you because they just want to see someone make personal attacks against me, I really could not care less. I couldn't care less what that person thinks, by definition they don't care about substance and their opinion is as worthless as yours.

The real battle IS the "technical" level, that is all I care about. I couldn't give a damn what anyone thinks on an emotional level, it's irrelevant, and your admission that it's your focus is simply an admission of trolling. It's an admission that you don't care about the truth, only about emotion, only about trolling. What you don't seem to understand is that you have now lost all semblance of credibility to any semi-rational person, even to those who were previously unfamiliar with you. All I or anyone else has to do is reference this post and/or the aforementioned thread you posted and it immediately becomes clear what your real motives are.

Last Edited by Astromut on 01/07/2013 11:46 PM

Wow, so much misunderstanding from Mr. Astro-Ant, I don't even know where to begin!

I don't think I have to worry about what others might think of me with your spin of what I said, given your well-known reputation of a dubious nature.

No, you're not concerned with truth and we all know it.

I already won countless of times on the technical level, so I'm not worried anymore winning any more NOW, I've already proven I'm better than everybody here, so now you're just here to amuse me, which, you're doing a piss poor job of, like everything, I'll remind you.

But you do keep trying, so I thought I'd at least take a minute to say what your errors are yet again. So maybe someday you can be better in your posts. Improvement...baby steps etc.

Now, back to it: Entertain Me pup!

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More personal attacks, no substance. Now it's clear why though. You know you've lost on the technical details and you don't even care, all you care about is trolling with personal attacks which you hope will sway most people. Well, where are all the people who you've swayed here? I see many disagreeing with you, but I don't see hordes of posters flocking to your defense. You have failed to offer a substantive rebuttal, you've admitted your true intentions which is not a pursuit of the truth, and people can see that.

There have been lots of posters on this thread already agreeing with me, and on other similar threads of the moon being off etc. Take your blinders off man. Better yet, stop trying to tilt the truth counter-directionally to reality!

The truth of the matter is they know that to offer an agreement with me, esp when they are registered users, you guys attack them relentlessly, and give them bad karma saying something like this:

"Field Rotation exists asshole"

So, many people do what that intimidation was intended to do, shut them up. You do whatever tactic you can to try and win, including intimidation of this sort, so there's really nothing below you that you won't stoop to. That my good doggie-woggie, is what people see.

I've stood up for the truth on this thread countless of times and have won already. Didn't take long to shut down Hydra, nor karlos. Weasel was just too stupid to know when he lost, but he's given up in defeat. HD has figured out his psychological tactics don't work with me, and since he knows nothing of science, has nothing left to offer.

So now I guess all I have left is you, who was publicly humiliated when he himself pinned a thread that showed his utter stupidity, so now I think you're just carrying on that grudge. Which is fine by me. This thread contains a lot of truth and everytime you respond to it, it offers a chance for someone else to perhaps click on it for the first time.

Truths like

Saturn was once our bigger sun in the sky (why the Sabbath is Saturday)

The real significance of the Cross in traditions like Christianity (crossing the galactic plane)

The significance of the number 3

The bad mood the moon puts us in and the scientific mechanism behind it

etc etc

So if you're not holding a personal grudge, there's still good reason to keep this information buried with your personal attacks.

Handwaving. Where are they now? Why aren't they here dogpiling on me if you're so right?

The reality is you already admitted defeat and you don't even care, all you care about is the "emotional" aspect of trolling.

You confuse persistent trolling with victory.

You know what happened when I pinned the thread? More people came in to laugh at you. I was anything but humiliated. I had a good laugh at your expense though.

I've already gave you the reason why people aren't dogpiling on you, you simply must work on your selective reading comprehension skills.

The other truth of the matter is a thread has a life cycle just like anything else does. When a thread's brand new, it receives more attention than when people have seen it already before, and it just becomes naturally part of the background. That's just human nature. Surprised I have to teach you this.

And with your calling me IDW which has no semblance in Reality shows who the real troll is.

Sock-puppets of yours might have given their public chuckle as you guys like to do, but your desperate condition was too evident to all, and as much as I like to win, I don't laugh at anybody, even in their defeat.

Right, because the troll known as ducm would constitute a dog pile...
Not.

And when an old thread gets pinned again it usually generates new responses. New responses WERE generated and they were not positive towards you. I was anything but humiliated. You know all this though, you're just trolling.

Unlike you, I have none.

Your ilk have given him consistent karma bashing on Field Rotation, as well as Tauranga, another one that comes to mind. Those are the only two I know of, but I'm sure there's plenty more. I can't check all registered users of course. Just they were the ones who mentioned it to me.

I'm sure that's the other reason why it was pinned by you, so that the gang behind the scenes can get notified and find the thread easily to gang stalk it.

So anyway, let's bring some more truth out about the Moon, shall we? Heck, why not, that's the point of this thread.

I've already laid lots of groundwork to understanding what's going on with the moon, and without this fundamental grasp of the basics, none of this will make any sense to those in traditionally flawed academia thinking.

To just provide a very short recount of those fundamentals:
The Earth has an iron core/The moon does not
The moon orbits the earth being held in said orbit not because of gravity but because of the EM forces, forces that are directly powered by the sun.

While my initial opening post like my thread title drew attention to one certain mechanism in play that brings on our viewable tilt of the moon (being subjected to the high concentrations of energy found in the center plane of our galaxy) which is a direct influence...

Still we mustn't also forget the indirect, secondary cause (if that's an accurate way to describe it, maybe, maybe not) also that brings about a tilting of the moon and that is:

"The almost highly erratic variable magnetic shifting of the Earth"

Thread: 2 Simple reasons why the moon is off

Because even though the moon doesn't have the same iron core as the Earth to be subjected the same way to the galactic plane's extreme amounts of magnetic energy, it's still locked in place to the magnetic field of Earth, so when the Earth's magnetic poles are moving so fast historically nowadays, the moon gets pulled a little more this way and than that way, compared to what it's used to doing. And no one would notice unless, like me, they are used to gazing at the moon and have the experience to know what the usual face of the moon looks like.

And something else that I've mentioned before, worth mentioning again with an additional clarification, is that we also see annular eclipses of the moon in front of the sun which no longer give us a complete solar eclipse, which is something new for us in recent geological terms, just in fact in the last few years, 5 at least, and certainly no more than 10.

Because the Earth travels around the sun in an elliptical orbit, which even mainstream science tells us, because they do tell us that the northern hemisphere, for instance, experiences winter because of its tilt, even though it is in fact closer to the sun during that time.

But as our dear solar system enters this area of intense EM forces and the sun's own EM polarities become increasingly more intense and subjected to irregularities, the Earth can in fact be speeding up as it goes around the sun, providing an even more elongated elliptical orbit. Of course our days can be the same since the speed increases as the orbital path increases, so that it equals out. But in so doing, the moon also has to play a sort of catch-up game with the faster moving Earth, so that we get a much more elliptical path of the Moon too. This means annular eclipses.

Make sense? To some I hope.

Where are all the AC's then coming to your defense? Again, I saw AC's laughing at you when I pinned it. You've lost. Get used to it.

LOL after the insight I posted, that's the best you can do for a reply? Oh poor, poor Astro...

Also besides, the usual test for the average person's sanity starts with sharing a thought, putting it out there amongst the rest of the people out there. And if they get encouraging reactions their way, they feel good that they're 'sane' which is just saying that you think the same as do most others, which isn't always a solid litmus test for sanity. One need only look into the history books and so many other instances even today to acknowledge how this activity is fundamentally flawed.

Just look at all the geniuses of yesteryear have tried to bring a new thought into their world only to be laughed at and ridiculed.

This doesn't prove nor disprove what I'm saying and it certainly doesn't make me a genius (although compared to you astro, I certainly am). But you have to think a little bit more than simplistically which you like doing. Mind you, I do like simple things, but you take it to the very extreme.

Insight? I'm still waiting for a substantive reply on the issue of field rotation of the moon. You've decided you've lost on that issue so now you're running away and trying to start a new discussion as if the moon actually is "tilting" because you know you can't hack it.

You haven't backed your claim that field rotation affects the moon in the same way it does to a nonrotational orbital body such as a distant star. All you've ever done is provide a video of the ISS, which orbits the Earth (fail one, since stars don't orbit us, so a failed analogy/example/correlation) and which doesn't have the same orbital pattern of the Moon (fail two).

You can't hack my new insight nor your own belaborous claims even.

The moon orbits earth dumbass, so does ISS.

You have utterly failed to explain what about the moon's orbit would cause it to not show field rotation when other orbiting objects like ISS DO show field rotation.

Read my post again, this time S L O W L Y.

Your bullshit is still the same as the last time I read it.

Okay I'll try and write slowly and more simply for you this time, so that you can grasp it.

The moon orbits the earth. The stars (subjected to field rotation) do not. Hence field rotation doesn't effect the orientation of the moon to the same degree as the stars, especially in the northern most and southern most equatorial regions of Earth, as others have so brilliantly mentioned.

The ISS yes orbits the Earth, but no where near in the same way as the Moon! C'mon man, I feel like a kindergarten teacher having to explain this to you!

Besides, you can't just make a claim and then tell ME to disprove it. Your claim. Your burden of proof. As it is, you've failed at every attempt.

Looks like those technical details you thought I was trying to avoid are just too naturally easy for me, and I remind you before saying this, that you pressed me, but that I:

Win

You should do what you guys do Next: call in reinforcements/your next pinch hitter. If you don't you'll just be made to look like more of a fool you know. Just trying to help you, not laughing at you.

Yes, it does. Field rotation happens regardless of whether you're looking at an orbiting object or not. That is why it happens to ISS just as it happens to the moon, it happens any time you are tracking an object by moving in more than one axis. This shows you have a severe, fundamental misunderstanding of what field rotation is and why it happens.

Again, ISS orbits the earth far faster and in a far less sidereal manner than the moon, so if your claim that the moon should not show field rotation due to the fact that orbits the earth (unlike the background stars) was valid then using ISS as an example would be generous to that claim.

It is you who fail to understand the concepts, and you will continue to fail for the rest of your life as long as you refuse to put down that massive ego that makes you think you can "teach" me about it. I know far more about this than you, that much is clear. I've explained it to you and shown you proof that I'm right over and over. Rather than learn anything you've chosen steadfast ignorance, and now I find out that the truth doesn't even matter to you. You've admitted that you know less about it than me on a technical level, you're just here to try to "pound people" emotionally and to troll them. I guess that's what you do to try to feel better about yourself and your inferior intellect. You sit here and beat your chest all day long and boast of a superior intellect as compensation for your inability to grasp these subjects.

You're the one with the claim that the moon's orbit would somehow cause it to not show field rotation while other orbiting objects such as ISS do (despite having a far less sidereal rate of motion in the sky). It's up to you to prove that's true and explain why. Your claim, your burden of proof, not mine.

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So let me ask you a question here, does field rotation matter to the same degree which we see in a telescope as that which we see by the human eye? I culda done swore that when the Moon, which is infinitely more closer to us than those distant far beyond twinkler thingies up in da sky, moves about in our sky, why I can just shift myself and my eye to follow it? Nah, that's just simple ign'ant talk!

You once again show your own complete ignorance on the subject. Field rotation in an altitude-azimuth telescope is exactly the same as it is by eye. When you shift yourself and your eye to follow the moon you are doing so in an altitude-azimuth manner; looking up, down, left, or right. It is fundamentally the same as that of an altitude-azimuth telescope and as such it is subject to just as much field rotation.

Okay, then further indulge me as a kindergarten teacher would a child learning for the first time, okay?

Does the term Azimuth apply only to stars or to the moon also?

Bro, you really should stop posting.
Astro has answered your questions, and you've made yourself look like a complete and utter fool.

It's embarassing to see.

And there's the first puppet to appear on the stage! Thanks, bro.

List of solar eclipses of the 20th century.

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Note that there were quite a few annular ones happening more than 10 years ago.

Thread: HEAVY VIBRATION/BUZZ IN CASCADE MOUNTAINS BC.......

Please don't use Wiki and think you have a legitimate leg to limp on, k?

No one living today, who is of the age of near 40 or more ever remembers an annular eclipse as ever happening before. Period. End.

Actually, man, strike my last comment.

Keep posting.

It's entertaining and mystifying all at once!

Thanks, I've been hearing a certain buzz too where I'm at. Let me look into this more and get back with you.