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Gov. Jesse Ventura & Gov. Gary Johnson

 
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It's long. But it's damn good.

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Current polling shows Libertarian Presidential candidate Gov. Gary Johnson is pulling votes equally from both parties. But the brainwashed still don't see. The same people that bitch about the misguided media fall prey to their own fears.




When Gary Johnson's included he gets 3% and actually takes mostly from Obama, pulling his lead over Romney down to 48/47. That could be something worth keeping an eye on.

[link to www.publicpolicypolling.com]



When Gary Johnson is included in the poll he gets 6% with Romney leading Obama 50-40. That's consistent with our general finding that Johnson doesn't pull too disproportionately from either Obama or Romney and is thus unlikely to play a spoiler effect in the contest.


[link to www.publicpolicypolling.com]
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Amazing video! What a scam being pulled over on the American people. "If you vote Dem. or Rep., you are part of the problem, not the solution".
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Let Gary Johnson Debate

by Andrew P. Napolitano

President Obama has been a failure. On his watch, the American economy has significantly deteriorated largely because he has stifled free market forces by over-regulating them and because he has laden taxpayers with debt. Those two factors alone – the federal government increasing the cost of doing business by telling businesses from physicians to major industries how to do their work, and the federal government spending trillions it doesn’t have and pushing the debts onto future generations – are enough to sink any economy.

In this arena, Mitt Romney has it half-right. He does understand that only free market forces can produce prosperity, but he fails to see that when the government spends what it doesn’t have, the result is inflation and higher taxes for future generations. Why does the federal government now spend half a trillion a year in debt service? Because every president, Republicans as well as Democrats, from FDR to Obama has borrowed money in order to spend more than he collected and has let future generations deal with repaying the debt. Because the feds do not repay (they merely roll over) their debt, the cost of interest payments has skyrocketed. Romney’s ability to articulate the virtues of the free market and to dance around the issue of debt, while the president nearly fell asleep, are the reasons he did so well in the presidential debate last week.

In the realm of foreign affairs, the president has unleashed a torrent of violence in the Middle East by supporting some of the people his predecessor was fighting a few years ago. Those folks now run the government in Libya and Egypt, and those places are now unsafe for Americans. What would Romney do? He’d insert the U.S. military to extend American dominance and build a new world order. What has Obama done? He’s bombed and killed innocents with drones. Neither has learned the lessons of 9/11: You cannot kill people or occupy foreign lands without moral and legal justification, lest you suffer deadly consequences.







more at link... [link to lewrockwell.com]
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Well worth the hour! Must watch!!!
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The 5% mark is big. Ballot access and matching funds might be the difference needed in 2016.
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Awesome video, Thanks.

A Must Watch!
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It's long. But it's damn good.


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2016, they WILL WIN as America descends further into Communist Hell of the Banker Elites.
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The status quo is corrupt,...no question.

Knowing this,...my question would now be, how could anyone in the United States that is politically engaged keep on voting for continued corruption??

Republicans and Democrats are self-serving entities in league with each other to keep all innovates ideas lock-out of the political debate, accumulate personal wealth, and to keep the people under complete control with disinformation and outright lies under a cloud of maximum surveillance.

Thanks for your efforts here OP to kick the damn door down.


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The status quo is corrupt,...no question.

Knowing this,...my question would now be, how could anyone in the United States that is politically engaged keep on voting for continued corruption??

Republicans and Democrats are self-serving entities in league with each other to keep all innovates ideas lock-out of the political debate, accumulate personal wealth, and to keep the people under complete control with disinformation and outright lies under a cloud of maximum surveillance.

Thanks for your efforts here OP to kick the damn door down.


Z
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Anyone that votes Democrat or Republican is part of the problem, not part of the solution.
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PIN THIS!
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Nice honest debate. I can actually debate with this guy. There are things that I disagree with but at least I feel I am not merely hearing lies to hut me up, to stifle my concerns so the candidate doesnt have to engage. Refreshing.
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Nice honest debate. I can actually debate with this guy. There are things that I disagree with but at least I feel I am not merely hearing lies to hut me up, to stifle my concerns so the candidate doesnt have to engage. Refreshing.
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For Sure. Who lines up 100% with anybody? But the differences between me and Gov. Johnson are FAR fewer than the other two jokers.
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Anyone that votes Democrat or Republican is part of the problem, not part of the solution.
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Clearly so,...people are mind-controlled to play their game by design,...

Mass-Media mantra:

War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength.
~George Orwell


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Sometimes karma is a bitch...

Presidential Candidate Governor Gary Johnson survives challenge

According to the Libertarian Party, “Republican President candidate Mitt Romney has likely lost his last hope for a victory in the electoral-rich state of Pennsylvania.”

Commonwealth Court Senior Judge James G. Colins ruled late Wednesday that the Libertarian Party of Pennsylvania has filed nominating petitions containing more than the required 20,601 valid signatures and that the entire slate of statewide Libertarian candidates will remain on the November 6 general election ballot, including Libertarians two-term Governor Gary Johnson for President and Judge Jim Gray for Vice President.

Libertarians believe the ruling was a “stinging defeat for Republicans who waged a grueling and expensive 9-week battle to force their Libertarian Party competition off the November ballot.”

Governor Johnson said, “It is a travesty of the democratic process that Libertarians were required to endure such a drawn-out, expensive and unnecessary attack on their right to be on the ballot. Voters in every state deserve real choices in this election, and it is clear that the Republican Party, not only in Pennsylvania, but in key states across the country, will go to any lengths to keep liberty, nonintervention and smaller government off the ballot.”

more at link... [link to westmorelandtimes.com]
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I'm a Libertarian Constitutionalist.

I don't give a shit what you do with your own life, whether you make it a success or a failure, that is an outcome of the choices you make, but please take responsibility for yourself and don't make ME pay for YOUR choices and we're all good.

Repeal the 17th Amendment and the Apportionment Act of 1911!

Thread: First steps down the road to a return to the Constitutional Republic that we were intended to be.

Restore the Republic.

It's a flower, not something to be feared.

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Thanks Moo.
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Finally! A thread about the election that makes sense!
Great job OP!!
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Gary Johnson 2012

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Thanks Moo.
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I'm a Libertarian Constitutionalist.

I don't give a shit what you do with your own life, whether you make it a success or a failure, that is an outcome of the choices you make, but please take responsibility for yourself and don't make ME pay for YOUR choices and we're all good.

Repeal the 17th Amendment and the Apportionment Act of 1911!

Thread: First steps down the road to a return to the Constitutional Republic that we were intended to be.

Restore the Republic.

It's a flower, not something to be feared.

cow - Moo!
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Libertarians believe the ruling was a “stinging defeat for Republicans who waged a grueling and expensive 9-week battle to force their Libertarian Party competition off the November ballot.”

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Says it all right there.

A victory for Liberty.

Sweet.


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Even at 6% he has no chance of winning. It makes no sense to pull votes from Romney just to throww them away. I wish Gary Johnson could win, but it it's not gonna' happen. There is too much riding on this election to take the chance. I will hold my nose and vote for the lesser of two evils. I really don't see any other choice.
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Even at 6% he has no chance of winning. It makes no sense to pull votes from Romney just to throww them away. I wish Gary Johnson could win, but it it's not gonna' happen. There is too much riding on this election to take the chance. I will hold my nose and vote for the lesser of two evils. I really don't see any other choice.
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5% gets ballot access and matching funds in 2016.

Vote as you see fit. Unlike the Romney crowd I don't tell others whom they should vote for. Just try and let people know there is more than 2 choices.
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Even at 6% he has no chance of winning. It makes no sense to pull votes from Romney just to throww them away. I wish Gary Johnson could win, but it it's not gonna' happen. There is too much riding on this election to take the chance. I will hold my nose and vote for the lesser of two evils. I really don't see any other choice.
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That thought process is the PROBLEM!!!
You are so brain washed into thinking "two choices" that you make it a reality.
It doesn't have to be. If all the people that think like you would vote for Garry Johnson....well enough said.
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Even at 6% he has no chance of winning. It makes no sense to pull votes from Romney just to throww them away. I wish Gary Johnson could win, but it it's not gonna' happen. There is too much riding on this election to take the chance. I will hold my nose and vote for the lesser of two evils. I really don't see any other choice.
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That thought process is the PROBLEM!!!
You are so brain washed into thinking "two choices" that you make it a reality.
It doesn't have to be. If all the people that think like you would vote for Garry Johnson....well enough said.
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Yes,...both Romney and Obama can go straight to Hell.



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Current polling shows Libertarian Presidential candidate Gov. Gary Johnson is pulling votes equally from both parties. But the brainwashed still don't see. The same people that bitch about the misguided media fall prey to their own fears.




When Gary Johnson's included he gets 3% and actually takes mostly from Obama, pulling his lead over Romney down to 48/47. That could be something worth keeping an eye on.

[link to www.publicpolicypolling.com]



When Gary Johnson is included in the poll he gets 6% with Romney leading Obama 50-40. That's consistent with our general finding that Johnson doesn't pull too disproportionately from either Obama or Romney and is thus unlikely to play a spoiler effect in the contest.


[link to www.publicpolicypolling.com]
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This is for you Epic Beard Guy. ^^^^^^^
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Amazing video! What a scam being pulled over on the American people. "If you vote Dem. or Rep., you are part of the problem, not the solution".
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ABSOFUCKINGLUTELY!!!!
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Thread: JUST AN IDEA: Vote 3rd Party Candidates ACROSS THE BOARD!!!
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