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Gov. Jesse Ventura & Gov. Gary Johnson

 
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Now That IS change you can believe in.
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Even at 6% he has no chance of winning. It makes no sense to pull votes from Romney just to throww them away. I wish Gary Johnson could win, but it it's not gonna' happen. There is too much riding on this election to take the chance. I will hold my nose and vote for the lesser of two evils. I really don't see any other choice.
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the only wasted vote is one where you must compromise your beliefs in order for it to be cast.

if you truly wished that Gary Johnson could win you would vote for him and not for evil, even if you consider it to be the lesser evil.

yes, you have other choices; Stein, Barr, Goode, Anderson, and of course, Johnson.

the Mobius strip has exits ramps, you just have to look.

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I'm a Libertarian Constitutionalist.

I don't give a shit what you do with your own life, whether you make it a success or a failure, that is the outcome of the choices you make, but please take responsibility for yourself and don't make ME pay for YOUR choices and we're all good.

Repeal the 17th Amendment and the Apportionment Act of 1911!

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I would support this idea. I'd would take a Green party candidate over the corrupt, incestual 2-party facade we have now.

Libertarian is my choice. Limit government as much as possible because as we have seen over 1000s of years. Government exists for those in power and is EASILY corruptable.
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I really don't know what people expect from this guy?





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I would support this idea. I'd would take a Green party candidate over the corrupt, incestual 2-party facade we have now.

Libertarian is my choice. Limit government as much as possible because as we have seen over 1000s of years. Government exists for those in power and is EASILY corruptable.
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I am registered Green Party, will be voting Green and Libertarian across the board. Gary was great in this video.. its time WE WAKE UP!
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Well worth the hour...Thanks for posting OP...
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I would support this idea. I'd would take a Green party candidate over the corrupt, incestual 2-party facade we have now.

Libertarian is my choice. Limit government as much as possible because as we have seen over 1000s of years. Government exists for those in power and is EASILY corruptable.
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I am registered Green Party, will be voting Green and Libertarian across the board. Gary was great in this video.. its time WE WAKE UP!
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I would love to see your "green partys " platform. Do you know what it is? If so, post it here for all to see.
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I would support this idea. I'd would take a Green party candidate over the corrupt, incestual 2-party facade we have now.

Libertarian is my choice. Limit government as much as possible because as we have seen over 1000s of years. Government exists for those in power and is EASILY corruptable.
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I am registered Green Party, will be voting Green and Libertarian across the board. Gary was great in this video.. its time WE WAKE UP!
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I would love to see your "green partys " platform. Do you know what it is? If so, post it here for all to see.
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Wow googling green party was tough.

[link to www.gp.org]
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I would support this idea. I'd would take a Green party candidate over the corrupt, incestual 2-party facade we have now.

Libertarian is my choice. Limit government as much as possible because as we have seen over 1000s of years. Government exists for those in power and is EASILY corruptable.
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I am registered Green Party, will be voting Green and Libertarian across the board. Gary was great in this video.. its time WE WAKE UP!
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I would love to see your "green partys " platform. Do you know what it is? If so, post it here for all to see.
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Wow googling green party was tough.

[link to www.gp.org]
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Thanks for posting the most outlandish, pipe dream, communist bullshit I have ever seen. I really had not seen it all before. I like Gary Johnson, he would be a good choice, but the Green thing is way out there Hawk. But, to each their own I guess.

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I am registered Green Party, will be voting Green and Libertarian across the board. Gary was great in this video.. its time WE WAKE UP!
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I would love to see your "green partys " platform. Do you know what it is? If so, post it here for all to see.
 Quoting: Desert Fox


Wow googling green party was tough.

[link to www.gp.org]
 Quoting: Hawk-02

Thanks for posting the most outlandish, pipe dream, communist bullshit I have ever seen. I really had not seen it all before. I like Gary Johnson, he would be a good choice, but the Green thing is way out there Hawk. But, to each their own I guess.
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LOL, i registerd green YEARS AGO... and yes, i always Vote Libertarian. People change ya know. And there was no way you read teh entire green party platform in that little of time.. just saying.
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I would love to see your "green partys " platform. Do you know what it is? If so, post it here for all to see.
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Wow googling green party was tough.

[link to www.gp.org]
 Quoting: Hawk-02

Thanks for posting the most outlandish, pipe dream, communist bullshit I have ever seen. I really had not seen it all before. I like Gary Johnson, he would be a good choice, but the Green thing is way out there Hawk. But, to each their own I guess.
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LOL, i registerd green YEARS AGO... and yes, i always Vote Libertarian. People change ya know. And there was no way you read teh entire green party platform in that little of time.. just saying.
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You can tell he is just a Romney tard, not a true independent, YELLING and insulting his way through life.
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I would love to see your "green partys " platform. Do you know what it is? If so, post it here for all to see.
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Wow googling green party was tough.

[link to www.gp.org]
 Quoting: Hawk-02

Thanks for posting the most outlandish, pipe dream, communist bullshit I have ever seen. I really had not seen it all before. I like Gary Johnson, he would be a good choice, but the Green thing is way out there Hawk. But, to each their own I guess.
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LOL, i registerd green YEARS AGO... and yes, i always Vote Libertarian. People change ya know. And there was no way you read teh entire green party platform in that little of time.. just saying.
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No, I didn't read all of it of course, but enough. Do you really subscribe to all that?
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Johnson has my vote.
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Thanks OP! Tagged for viewing later...
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this is the truth..we are in dangerous waters with our 2 party slave system. it is never going to get better if you vote for either of them. either of them is a vote for crippled america.
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The last big shake up with the parties was before and during the civil war with a lot of disagreements over slavery with Lincoln wining both of those elections. Look at lincolns 1st election (1864) and there were 4 parties going at at it in an all out brawl. In lincon's second election(1864), he had to rename name his republican party to the national union party where he got former democrat Andrew Johnson as his running mate. Then after the reconstruction era where there were a few more split faction parties running for president things finally stabilized into our modern republican/democratic parties we have today. Perhaps civil war would shake things up again.
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The last big shake up with the parties was before and during the civil war with a lot of disagreements over slavery with Lincoln wining both of those elections. Look at lincolns 1st election (1864) and there were 4 parties going at at it in an all out brawl. In lincon's second election(1864), he had to rename name his republican party to the national union party where he got former democrat Andrew Johnson as his running mate. Then after the reconstruction era where there were a few more split faction parties running for president things finally stabilized into our modern republican/democratic parties we have today. Perhaps civil war would shake things up again.
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Sorry I meant 1860 was Lincolns 1st election where we had 4 different parties get a percentage of the popular vote and electoral votes.
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There Is No Libertarian Case For Mitt Romney


Stephen Green, PJMedia’s Vodkapundit, came out this morning with a post putting forward a libertarian case for Mitt Romney. I’ve seen several other people try to attempt to make this argument in the last several weeks, but they’ve all been conservatives trying to convince libertarians why they absolutely must vote for Mitt Romney rather than Gary Johnson on November 6th. Inevitably, those arguments, whether in the form of a blog post or a conversation on Twitter or Facebook end up devolving into the same ridicule and condescension one typically hears from conservatives directed at libertarians. A vote for Gary Johnson, they say, is a vote for Barack Obama, for example. Another common theme is to point out that the Libertarian Party doesn’t exactly have a record of electoral success, a fact which I concede but which I find completely irrelevant to the question of who I should consider voting for and why. They call you a Paulbot too, even though I was an enthusiastic backer of Governor Johnson’s bid for the Republican nomination and had pretty much had my fill of the Ron Paul movement way back in 2007. On the whole, the conservative argument to libertarians regarding the 2012 election has been dismissive, insulting, and based more on the false assumption that we want to be loyal Republicans. I’ve really grown quick sick of it, to be honest.

I consider Stephen’s argument to be different from those, however. For one thing, he’s ostensibly one of us, a blogger who has described himself as libertarian leaning for years and who has taken positions on issues that would certainly be at odds with what many would consider to be conservative orthodoxy. He’s also someone I’ve been reading since long before I ever started blogging myself way back in 2005 and I’ve always respected his opinions even when I’ve disagreed with them in some manner. So, I figured that if a fellow libertarian was making an argument in favor of voting for Mitt Romney, it was worthy of consideration. After reading the whole piece, though, I’ve got to say I find myself unpersuaded.

more at link... [link to www.unitedliberty.org]
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