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Russia says it will not renew arms agreement with U.S.

 
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Russia says it will not renew arms agreement with U.S.
Russia will not renew a decades-old agreement with Washington on dismantling nuclear and chemical weapons when it expires next year, Deputy Foreign Minister Sergei Ryabkov was quoted as saying on Wednesday.

The death of the 1991 agreement, which had been renewed twice, is the latest in a series of hitches in relations between the United States and Russia and casts doubt on the future of the much-vaunted "reset" in relations between the Cold War-era foes.

"The basis of the program is an agreement of 1991 which, by virtue of the time when it was conceived, the way it was worked out and prepared, does not meet very high standards. The agreement doesn't satisfy us, especially considering new realities," Interfax quoted him as saying.

U.S. Senator Richard Lugar, a veteran disarmament campaigner, was in Moscow in August to push for the renewal of the program, known as the Nunn-Lugar Cooperative Threat Reduction program, which he helped launch.

The project, intended to dismantle nuclear and chemical weapons in the former Soviet Union, was last ratified by Russia in 2006 and is due to expire in 2013. Aides said it had resulted in the deactivation of more than 7,650 strategic warheads.

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Re: Russia says it will not renew arms agreement with U.S.
Can't say I blame them. In 1991, they were the ones who appeared to be weak and we were the ones who were strong. Today after we have unleashed a decade of high profile wars that have completely embarrassed their older technology used by others who were less than competent in the Middle East, we have a weak president, a faultering economy, and a war-weary public.

I'm not saying I don't want an arms agreement or that I want a freshly re-armed Russia, but the Russian Bear is much stronger now than it was then and our state department and executive branch hasn't been this weak since Jimmy Carter.
"God forbid we should ever be 20 years without such a rebellion. The people cannot be all, & always, well informed... If they remain quiet under such misconceptions it is a lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty... Let them take arms... What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants. " - Thomas Jefferson in 1787
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Re: Russia says it will not renew arms agreement with U.S.
More too, Putin probably sees Obama will NOT be more flexible after the elections.
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Re: Russia says it will not renew arms agreement with U.S.
Can't say I blame them. In 1991, they were the ones who appeared to be weak and we were the ones who were strong. Today after we have unleashed a decade of high profile wars that have completely embarrassed their older technology used by others who were less than competent in the Middle East, we have a weak president, a faultering economy, and a war-weary public.

I'm not saying I don't want an arms agreement or that I want a freshly re-armed Russia, but the Russian Bear is much stronger now than it was then and our state department and executive branch hasn't been this weak since Jimmy Carter.
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I completely agree. Well said.

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Re: Russia says it will not renew arms agreement with U.S.
More too, Putin probably sees Obama will NOT be more flexible after the elections.
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Hopefully that is because he will be living in Hawaii.
"And I know that when I leave savage wolves will come in among you and will not spare the flock. Even from your own number men will arise and distort the truth in order to draw away disciples after them. So be on your guard. We are not the wolves at the gate, we are the ones who face them."

And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved. Matthew 10:22
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Re: Russia says it will not renew arms agreement with U.S.
Can't say I blame them. In 1991, they were the ones who appeared to be weak and we were the ones who were strong. Today after we have unleashed a decade of high profile wars that have completely embarrassed their older technology used by others who were less than competent in the Middle East, we have a weak president, a faultering economy, and a war-weary public.

I'm not saying I don't want an arms agreement or that I want a freshly re-armed Russia, but the Russian Bear is much stronger now than it was then and our state department and executive branch hasn't been this weak since Jimmy Carter.
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Well said.
"And I know that when I leave savage wolves will come in among you and will not spare the flock. Even from your own number men will arise and distort the truth in order to draw away disciples after them. So be on your guard. We are not the wolves at the gate, we are the ones who face them."

And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved. Matthew 10:22
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"And I know that when I leave savage wolves will come in among you and will not spare the flock. Even from your own number men will arise and distort the truth in order to draw away disciples after them. So be on your guard. We are not the wolves at the gate, we are the ones who face them."

And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved. Matthew 10:22
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Cincy awoke the sleeping giant...good luck
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Re: Russia says it will not renew arms agreement with U.S.
Cincy awoke the sleeping giant...good luck
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haha, it sure seems like it.

They shouldn't have poked it for so long. Should have won it in 3.
"And I know that when I leave savage wolves will come in among you and will not spare the flock. Even from your own number men will arise and distort the truth in order to draw away disciples after them. So be on your guard. We are not the wolves at the gate, we are the ones who face them."

And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved. Matthew 10:22
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Re: Russia says it will not renew arms agreement with U.S.
Can't say I blame them. In 1991, they were the ones who appeared to be weak and we were the ones who were strong. Today after we have unleashed a decade of high profile wars that have completely embarrassed their older technology used by others who were less than competent in the Middle East, we have a weak president, a faultering economy, and a war-weary public.

I'm not saying I don't want an arms agreement or that I want a freshly re-armed Russia, but the Russian Bear is much stronger now than it was then and our state department and executive branch hasn't been this weak since Jimmy Carter.
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omg you are an ignorant bitch
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Can you dispute what he says with facts?...or only use ad hominems?
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Cincy awoke the sleeping giant...good luck
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haha, it sure seems like it.

They shouldn't have poked it for so long. Should have won it in 3.
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yep...u still gotta chance
feels good
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Re: Russia says it will not renew arms agreement with U.S.
Cincy awoke the sleeping giant...good luck
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1327230


haha, it sure seems like it.

They shouldn't have poked it for so long. Should have won it in 3.
 Quoting: Sleeping Giant


yep...u still gotta chance
feels good
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back in it.
"And I know that when I leave savage wolves will come in among you and will not spare the flock. Even from your own number men will arise and distort the truth in order to draw away disciples after them. So be on your guard. We are not the wolves at the gate, we are the ones who face them."

And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved. Matthew 10:22
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Re: Russia says it will not renew arms agreement with U.S.
Cincy awoke the sleeping giant...good luck
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1327230


haha, it sure seems like it.

They shouldn't have poked it for so long. Should have won it in 3.
 Quoting: Sleeping Giant


yep...u still gotta chance
feels good
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2904907


back in it.
 Quoting: Sleeping Giant


Nice match
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"And I know that when I leave savage wolves will come in among you and will not spare the flock. Even from your own number men will arise and distort the truth in order to draw away disciples after them. So be on your guard. We are not the wolves at the gate, we are the ones who face them."

And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved. Matthew 10:22