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Chiron Return: Any astrologers out there?

 
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on the kabbalistic calendar, you were born on the day of the passing of a holy
person named Metuselah
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on the kabbalistic calendar, you were born on the day of the passing of a holy
person named Metuselah
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if u r born on the day that a sage passed on the kabbalistic calendar, it suggests reincarnation/past life, or this could be your guide, or you could be influenced from their quality of their soul, so .. whatever resonates :)
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the first age was characterized by the first of the lower seven sefirot of the tree of life, which is chesed, or lovingkindness. during this time God's energy was flowing in the world and in humanity without bounds. there were miracles everywhere, these beings were in constant communion with the divine. which is also why they lived so long
 Quoting: Reading on Chiron


but we must remember that he had it easy heh heh heh .. that was THEN .. when a soul of that magnitude is here in this age when the divine energy is more concealed it can be difficult..
 Quoting: Reading on Chiron


ok so that is part of the wound..just being a huge soul in tight times. but there is more
so it was metuselah's job to warn the generation of the oncoming flood..
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so metuselah and his grandson noah spent almost every day of their life trying to encourage their peers to return to G-d's ways all the other spiritual giants had passed and metuselah was the only one left of his class Metuselah was so holy that G-d could not bring the flood onto earth until he passed..G-d even waited an additional 7 days to not even bring the flood while people were mourning him
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Do you know Vandana Shiva. She is also born on the same Birthday. I highly resonate with her work too. Ph.D. in quantum physics but used it for ‘preservation of the seed’ plus other environmental issues.
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preservation of the seed - that is exactly what the flood is about, building the ark to preserve humanity
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there is also a sumerian king named ubaratutu whose character is similar
both metuselach and the sumerian ubaratutu were the son of enoch
ubaratutu was king of sumeria until the flood swept over the land
so can you imagine..what a sense of failure that would be to carry into this life..
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but we have to go deeper to understand why this all happened bc G-d works in mysterious ways..

oh btw the day you were born is also the day that noah entered the ark..
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Could outside forces be blocking my ability to access this in deeper form right now? Could that be what I am sensing...interference in some way? Normally I can access at these levels...but feel blocked...
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it could be

i also feel a bit pressured bc i am excited about this and not sure how to give it over :)

oh also when i was writing this up for you in an email my email got erased it was super annoying
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Yes....the blocked...communications devices have been weird around me in the last few months...to the point things just cut out during communications right at what feels crucial times...
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so i think there is the weight of a profound message that you are carrying

in other versions metuselah was warning not only about the flood but also prophecizing about the messianic kingdom the flood and the future redemption are related about the future redemption it says knowledge of G-d will cover the land like water will covers the sea.. so there will be a NEW flood.. of knowledge
so you are here for this time :)
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No doubt I feel I have become my GLP avatar...lol Image of the Gulf of Mexico...which relates to Pistis Sophia for me...
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see your IC = where you come from is pisces (waters), your chiron (wound) is in pisces (flood), and saturn or your restriction comes from this ancient wound as well.. but saturn is also wisdom and this earned wisdom is feeding ur mission too
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wow~ i want to learn more about the pistis sophia :)
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It is where Christ ‘descends’ the ‘abyss of creation’ to find her trapped and ‘defiled’ but still praising the light
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that relates to your scorpio as well..
neptune in the 12th..

mercury in 12th trine moon, carrying this prophetic message + north node in gemini ~ communication/message
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Anyway. Thought I would share and followup what has gone down or come up since I started this thread. Something eased after a couple weeks after the reading. How does the wounded healer become a healer?

Floods of information, at a couple different times of my life, have come my way...hidden Information, darker or deeper, those that pierce the psyche, almost a sense of preverbal or nonverbal, from environmental concerns, raping of mother earth, to the sadism of the Catholic church in suppressing Feminine Divine knowledge historically, to their pedophiliac acts, then covering them up, has come my way throughout my life.

Sometimes they are all meshed together, which I usually process the overlapping complexity through the arts. Anyway. Saw this yesterday...a documentary that is coming...
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"Mea Maxima Culpa: Silence in the House of God," a new documentary by Oscar-winning filmmaker Alex Gibney, investigates how a charismatic priest in Milwaukee abused more than 200 deaf children in a Catholic boarding school under his control. The young students were molested again and again by Father Lawrence Murphy, who stalked them in their dorm rooms at night, on trips to his rural cabin, and even in the confessional booth. Gibney, whose past films include "Enron: The Smartest Guys in the Room" and the Academy Award-winning "Taxi to the Dark Side," joins us to discuss his new exposé, which opens this Friday in theaters in New York City and Los Angeles, and will debut on HBO in February 2013.
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Video segment attached at link. When I was watching it, I couldn’t help but think of the language I used from my narrative poem, The Song of Un, and the passages I wrote where I am describing the speaking in sign language.

It all fits together somehow...in this puzzle we call life.
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Long story shortened...for now.

TopKIll

Top kill this, boys, from the exploitative corporatist to the so called church.

Who’s your Mama now when faced with the abyss of sublimation?
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Starting to get the full ramifications of the Chiron return.

Especially while having the placement of Chiron in Pisces in the Third house, Pluto opposed Chiron at 0 degree, and with Sun Trine Chiron.

Seems I brought this wound in with me. Unfortunately I do remember it. Was faced with the past life wound right off the bat preverbal.

Now the Chiron return to supposedly become the wounded healer with the Pluto opposition at the zero degree mark. I assure you I feel it.

If there are any astrologers out there or people going through the same, that can help with this I would really appreciate it.

The wound is about feeling misunderstood no matter what one says. It sucks.

Especially since my past life wound was having my tongue cut out for sharing mad Gnostic knowledge.
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Updating original message.

The wound is about knowing I have a piece of art in me that can rock the world not the misunderstood thing I mentioned above, that is another portion of my chart. Healed that part or I would not be updating this.

Tongue cut out past life for imparting mad Gnostic knowledge, still possible, but updating. Probably some philosophical text or something that took off. Did rock some portion of the world.

Though now thinking the Pluto opposed Chiron at 0 degree is about knowing, before this return, that mad Gnostic knowledge wasn't going to go over well during this time period. Why this entrance into this societal period of time was specifically chosen as well as specific societal issues I would address within parental birth placement.

So what would my mind do, based upon the Mercury placements in particular, knowing and having thought out the societal conditions for past and present before entering?

Probably say something like, 'Well mad Gnostic knowledge ain't gonna go over well this time around. Look where that got y'all the last time. Shrine of the Muses burned down. Rushing around re-scribing multiple versions of philosophical text before the razing. Running around hiding them in jars in deserts and so forth. Taking Orphic rites of passage at burial and so forth and what not to never forget. '

Well the Mercury speed of light mind would consider also future. The societal attempt, the hubris if man, to recreate speed of light. Their only means possible would be communication technology devices, i.e. computers, so forth and what not, pretty much where we are.

Though with the mad gnostic gnostic razed to the ground would be false speed of light, meaning detach from Holy Spirit. They cannot recreate the Holy Spirit. They know it. We all know it. And why not. Well, about one of the only lines left standing in what is called the Bible today that is truth is the one about blasphemy of the Holy Spirit.

Okay, long story short. I would hide the knowledge within. Makes logical sense, i.e. gnosis. But more so. I would hide it in art. That piece of art I mentioned above in updating the original message. That piece of art that has been down in the abyss hanging out with Pistis Sophia. Chiron is who has been hanging out down down there with her.

(That makes the story of Jesus very different then when looking at the Pistis Sophia Gnostic text and Origins of the World text. No? Well, yes. That would make Jesus, Chiron. No longer a myth. An actual astrological and environmental event that occurred. An actual event that enable the human mind and spirit to be one and be innately wired for speed of light. Anyway. Yup. Well. Information that could rock the world.)

Point now: Hidden piece of art. Pulling that piece of art up from the abyss to return to light. Should be more than clear Pisits Sophia represents the imagery from the Gulf of Mexico, i.e. Top Kill: Reflections of the Deepwater Horizon. Should be more than clear the cinnabar and primordial elementals and so forth and what not rising are the prophetic notion of the dead of christ rising, i.e. The mad hidden gnostic alchemical info. That speed of light wired to our very neurons.

Focus. Hidden piece of art. Focus. Pistis Sophia is not alone. Pistis Sophia will return to her innate placement and light.

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I hope this person is doing okay. I hear yah.

Ever since I acquired my natal chart and thus learned that I have a Finger of God (Yod) pointing to Chiron, I have held Chiron close to my heart. Today I am going through some difficult self-discovery issues, and coincidentally I was reminded of Chiron this morning.

My good friend at Chirotic Journal posted this message on his twitter/Facebook:

Chiron is about wounding, but the true wisdom lies in seeing that it represents a wound that cannot be healed. The only workable response to your Chiron placement therefore is to broaden, deepen and embrace the pain. Chiron is problematic when we try to deny, run away from or protect the wound: by accepting it we become profoundly more compassionate and functional human beings.

And when I commented about still coming to terms with my Chiron Yod, he replied with this:

A Yod to Chiron is just about as tough as it gets, so I do sympathise. It means that you cannot ignore this placement even if you want to and you have a (I believe) 4th house Chiron too, so it’s an especially vulnerable feeling. I think with 4th/Cancer/Moon aspects to Chiron you are always going to be battling with security and safety issues. No amount of armour is going to make you feel 100% safe, so at some point there has to be a reconciliation with the world, and you have to live your life as an “openly vulnerable” human being.

In case you’re wondering, he couldn’t have been more accurate if he tried. I’ve realized that I have been trying to build up armor, and getting frustrated because it wasn’t working. Openly vulnerable. Such choice words. So dead on. Perhaps it is time to accept my fate and learn better how to abide by this. Whew.
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And another one for now:

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And, of course, as always, some tone.
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I want some more please. I want s'more. lol
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Chiron entered Pisces on the 20th of April 2010 and what an deepwater rift of opportunist and whaling of grief and grievances and cries and moans and gnashing, in what seems almost a speed of light time period, the human species has had since then. There are no mistakes.
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I want some more please. I want s'more. lol
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Love the youtuber's description of their upload: just because I feel strange today.

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Algonquian–Basque Pidgin over and out...
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And, one, again, and again, and again, for the journey...
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And, one more, for the generations that will continue to sound out the resonance of the Great Aum. Use the Mudras of those fingertips wisely. Pistis Sophia Rising.
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Starting to get the full ramifications of the Chiron return.

Especially while having the placement of Chiron in Pisces in the Third house, Pluto opposed Chiron at 0 degree, and with Sun Trine Chiron.

Seems I brought this wound in with me. Unfortunately I do remember it. Was faced with the past life wound right off the bat preverbal.

Now the Chiron return to supposedly become the wounded healer with the Pluto opposition at the zero degree mark. I assure you I feel it.

If there are any astrologers out there or people going through the same, that can help with this I would really appreciate it.

The wound is about feeling misunderstood no matter what one says. It sucks.

Especially since my past life wound was having my tongue cut out for sharing mad Gnostic knowledge.
 Quoting: Mnemosyne/Zeus




I don't really have a strong feeling for Chiron - you know how you have a stronger "feel" for some planets than others? I've always liked Uranus myself (ok, no jokes). With that configuration though I think it's time to heal that ancient wound, which prevents you from being your full self (Sun) by fear of communicating that perhaps causes severe repercussions - or death (Pluto). Your communications have the potential to be very transforming and powerful to others, and perhaps....subversive (how appropos to be on GLP!) You won't take things lightly thought and i think death and transformation are part of your regular thought processes and something you can help others to be aware of and handle. Very deep stuff. Getting past the fear is the key, but isn't it always :)
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the first age was characterized by the first of the lower seven sefirot of the tree of life, which is chesed, or lovingkindness. during this time God's energy was flowing in the world and in humanity without bounds. there were miracles everywhere, these beings were in constant communion with the divine. which is also why they lived so long
 Quoting: Reading on Chiron


but we must remember that he had it easy heh heh heh .. that was THEN .. when a soul of that magnitude is here in this age when the divine energy is more concealed it can be difficult..
 Quoting: Reading on Chiron


ok so that is part of the wound..just being a huge soul in tight times. but there is more
so it was metuselah's job to warn the generation of the oncoming flood..
 Quoting: Reading on Chiron

 Quoting: A Muse Me


Just an amazing thread...I don't recall reading this one before. The communication part with you is for sure happening...you and those damn phones lol I am glad you went this deep. I have always told you how gifted you are...and that you are a strong spirit. I hope for all the balance returns La...

and I don't care your getting heart flowers and I don't want to hear another word about that :P

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For the person that shared these in a thread a while back:

Taken from the GRS Mead translation of Pistis Sophia (a translation directly from Coptic will probably be easier to make sense of)
Music from the soundtrack to Sucker Punch (copyrighted to people who hopefuly wont mind since this can be an advert for it.)


Fuck. I have become my avatar...lol
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11,12,13,14 wow... lol

text message :P

Thank you for posting these videos...

hf
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Thank you Angels, all the Angels. Yes. This was, and, is a good thread. I will add, my best: This was the journey that had to be taken. It is good to be alive, as the words of another around here, read through my head. I accept the flowers with an open heart and gratitude. They are stunning. Though, I do wish someone would come up with a humming bird to go with the flowers around this Juke Joint. That would be nice and quite the emoticon accomplishment.
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Starting to get the full ramifications of the Chiron return.

Especially while having the placement of Chiron in Pisces in the Third house, Pluto opposed Chiron at 0 degree, and with Sun Trine Chiron.

Seems I brought this wound in with me. Unfortunately I do remember it. Was faced with the past life wound right off the bat preverbal.

Now the Chiron return to supposedly become the wounded healer with the Pluto opposition at the zero degree mark. I assure you I feel it.

If there are any astrologers out there or people going through the same, that can help with this I would really appreciate it.

The wound is about feeling misunderstood no matter what one says. It sucks.

Especially since my past life wound was having my tongue cut out for sharing mad Gnostic knowledge.
 Quoting: Mnemosyne/Zeus




I don't really have a strong feeling for Chiron - you know how you have a stronger "feel" for some planets than others? I've always liked Uranus myself (ok, no jokes). With that configuration though I think it's time to heal that ancient wound, which prevents you from being your full self (Sun) by fear of communicating that perhaps causes severe repercussions - or death (Pluto). Your communications have the potential to be very transforming and powerful to others, and perhaps....subversive (how appropos to be on GLP!) You won't take things lightly thought and i think death and transformation are part of your regular thought processes and something you can help others to be aware of and handle. Very deep stuff. Getting past the fear is the key, but isn't it always :)
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Thank you for sharing your pattern recognition talents in conjunctions.

Yes. I would think it is clear enough what my career testing out of college and even coming out of high school said. Forensic Psychologist. I did not care for the word subversive. I did not care for a career such as that. As a remembered poem goes. Two roads diverged into a yellow wood. I took a boat instead. Obviously, with that particular Chiron placement. More like a submarine. Or better yet. Jonah in the belly of a fish. What a journey it has been.

And, what a freaking amazing Scorpio Full Moon.
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Thank you Angels, all the Angels. Yes. This was, and, is a good thread. I will add, my best: This was the journey that had to be taken. It is good to be alive, as the words of another around here, read through my head. I accept the flowers with an open heart and gratitude. They are stunning. Though, I do wish someone would come up with a humming bird to go with the flowers around this Juke Joint. That would be nice and quite the emoticon accomplishment.
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The color Purple! wait...the song coming up... lol

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