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She changed schools and cities, 3 or four times. I am sure the parents knew her plight. But what can they do? You cant force the other kids to stop -- they live in their own little world. The teachers can do little. The parents of the bullies? What can they do? In the end the kids extract revenge on your kid for doing that. I wish I knew an answer....
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to stop it you'd have to isolate her from society / the internet all together

that was the channel it was coming into her life from

even taking internet alone away from her would not help because all the other kids at school have the net and could pull her entire life history up with the push of a button and use it to harass her in real life

the TRUE problem here is that we have allowed private industry and the government to violate our constitutional rights to privacy

it used to be only a licensed private detective or government agency had access to this kind of information

hell it used to be you needed a security clearance to pull some of the info you can get for free on the internet about people now

it's out of control

and it's a stalkers paradise

something needs to be done about it

a good class action lawsuit against facebook and these other sites that publish your entire life history including all your neighbors, family members, employers, etc. against your will without your permission would end this

it's wrong

they are profiting from violating our constitutional right to privacy

she would move and then a year later her info would be out there on the net so her old bullies / stalkers could find her again and spread their blackmail / extortion pics to her new friends and classmates...

it just shouldn't be that easy for someone to pull up your entire life history / family history..

it's downright dangerous as this tragic case exemplifies

as it stands now you'd literally have to pull her from school and move to a cave in the woods to save her from the hands of these cyber criminals...

that or fight fire with fire and stalk the stalkers..

but clearly neither her nor her parents were equipped to deal with it

law enforcement doesn't take this shit seriously

clearly they failed in this situation as well
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I agree with all you said Trinity, and would like to add, young teens, young children--are children. They will naturally get some "bad" ideas. And try somethings that are not a good idea--these things can kill--so to those who say "you have to let kids be kids" and you have to trust your kids...

She said she was doing this with friends--meeting strangers on the internet--not facebook!!

Children need adult supervision, 24/7--parents get in trouble to leave their kids home alone, but kids all the time go to friends houses where the parents are not home (working), and or they are not available--too busy to watch and check up on what the kids are doing.

My niece was at a friends house and the parents were upstairs, the kids were in basement watching porn on the playboy channel--kids were young--11 or 12, you can't remove images once there--

To anyone who believes that parents need to put themselves first, have a career that makes them happy.....have a marriage that suits their fancy--

If anyone feels that way....they shouldn't have kids. Having kids is walking through the door that says "the kids come first" till your job as a parent is done--period.

TPTB have done an excellent job of ruining families and taking out the next generation.
 Quoting: stillhere

Children do need adult supervision 24/7. Especially in this age. Why is this so hard for parents.

Teens want their privacy, but they should only get what is warranted. I gave my teens some privacy when they had friends over. However, I did the quietly pop into the room routine often. I made sure they knew that I was watching in a subtle way. These kids learned that I could POP in anytime. My kids friends actually respected me for that and my home was the place they wanted to be. Not because they could get away with anything, but because my presence gave them a feeling of safety because their parents were not watching.
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I would be afraid to catch someone masturbating if I kept "popping in". That was the main reason I wanted privacy as a teenager... just sayin...
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That poor little, beautiful Baby Girl. If I were her Momma, I wouldn't rest until I caught up with that punk ass boy who did that to her. I wouldn't kill him , but he'd never walk again.
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Stories like this one and the trauma I have seen my own teenager go through due to longterm bullying are the reasons I will keep doing my best to raise anti-bullying awareness in my community and beyond until the day I die.

Rest in peace Amanda Todd, I am so sorry you were abused and scapegoated by these selfish and unempathic bullies. They all have your blood on their hands. I wish that just one genuine bystander from your peer groups had reached out to you, that one teacher had taken you under their wing.

I hope your family were loving and kind and were there for you - sometimes this is not enough for a young teen who is looking for acceptance and belonging within their own peer group. This is how young people define themselves, they are individuating from parents and family at this time and defining self by feedback from peers is a normal part of development. Please do not lay blame at the feet of this girl's family, the blame lies with the predators and bullies who used and abused her. The abuse that Amanda Todd survived was far worse - what a strong girl she was to hang on so long.

My child has had my support 24/7, she endured 18months of targeted bullying where she was ostracised from her peer/year group and sleep overs, outings, parties etc. I took her out of the school as they were doing nothing to stop it. At the worst point, I was worried she would end her own life and watched her very closely for months as she slowly recovered. She came very close to cutting and wished she could die. She had internalised the bullies put downs and developed very negative self concepts in spite of how we love her and told her differently.

Now she refuses to go to her new school, she controls this by not sleeping at night and by eating very little. She has 100% support from me, family, out of school friends and her new school personnel but the fear of this trauma happening again is enough to stop my beautiful child from taking steps to live again. She promised me she would not physically harm herself but she did choose to emotionally die - I will continue to do everything I can to help her find her will to live again.

We cannot homeschool in our community it is not an option. I have other children happy in school and their lives and so moving country is not an option. Pushing for in school changes to provide my daughter with the support she needs and raising awareness are my only options.

My heart breaks for Amanda Todd and all the children who have lost their lives to Bullycide.

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where are the parents?

don't they talk to this beautiful creature?

i guess too busy, everyone's busy doing nothing, filling the void

she looks like a beautiful woman, probably a lot of jealousy

didn't she have any friends to back her up?

why didn't the parents or teachers back her up?

empower yourselves and know you are one with God and are immensely powerful

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She died too young. She still didn't know much.
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HATE to be the bad guy here... But I've been researching this story all day looking at dates and such of all said "Evidence"...

It's really really starting to look like this is fabricated...

There no confirmation whatsoever of an alleged suicide. The creation of facebook pages related to this were made before she supposedly killed herself...

SHe may have still killed herself but the page was for certain created with the title RIP Amanda Tod a good amount of time before they say she killed herself.

I'm looking through as much of the canadian press in her area that I can find trying to find anything that says officially they found Amanda Todd dead and I can't find it.

IF someone else can please share some solid evidence on this I'll stop but theres also more than what I've put on this reply that suggests something fishy about this whole story...


Now that doesn't mean the bullying isn't ridiculously awful right now on this planet. I've put an end to a large amount of bullying around here with the help of the ISD's in the area and many parents so I understand how awful the world of bullying is right now. But I'm also smart enough to see holes in stories and this one has Swiss Cheese all over it.

Don't attack me for noticing the obvious please.

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Articles on her death and the video she made:

[link to www.vancouversun.com]

[link to fullcomment.nationalpost.com]

[link to www.allvoices.com]
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DOES ANYONE KNOW WHO THESE TWO PEOPLE WERE?
THEIR NAMES?

THE GUY WHO POSTED HER PIC AND THE GIRL THAT PUNCHED HER??

JUST CURIOUS


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The girl that punched her was a girlfriend of the old guy she befriended later on in a new place and became involved that she met in the library .
He convinced her to come to his house while his girlfriend was out of town.He just wanted sex but she thought he really liked her.She had no other friends and fell for his lies.He just wanted sex.The picture was taken in the 7th grade so she was just a child.
Sounds like the harassment went on for years and she finally just couldnt take anymore.
She reminds me of myself.I felt the same way but luckily there was no internet to bully me way back then or I would probably have done what she did.
Takes a lot of age to finally see that people dont mean a damn thing as far as your life but when you are young and being bullied you can only feel devastated and ashamed when something like that happens to you.
Sounds like she had a messed up home life too.I did also and no support from my mom at all so that adds to the issue.When you are in grade school and high school all this crap matters to you because you dont know till later in life it doesnt.We all want to be accepted.
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Just out of curiosity where can we access the original topless pics?
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HATE to be the bad guy here... But I've been researching this story all day looking at dates and such of all said "Evidence"...

It's really really starting to look like this is fabricated...

There no confirmation whatsoever of an alleged suicide. The creation of facebook pages related to this were made before she supposedly killed herself...

SHe may have still killed herself but the page was for certain created with the title RIP Amanda Tod a good amount of time before they say she killed herself.

I'm looking through as much of the canadian press in her area that I can find trying to find anything that says officially they found Amanda Todd dead and I can't find it.

IF someone else can please share some solid evidence on this I'll stop but theres also more than what I've put on this reply that suggests something fishy about this whole story...


Now that doesn't mean the bullying is ridiculous awful right now on this planet. I've put an end to a large amount of bullying around here with the help of the ISD's in the area and many parents so I understand how awful the world of bullying is right now. But I'm also smart enough to see holes in stories and this one has Swiss Cheese all over it.

Don't attack me for noticing the obvious please.
 Quoting: XSlyOneX


If you look through the last 11 pages of this thread, you will find links to local Canadian stations like Vancouver news. Also, her original bullies are on this page:
[link to www.youtube.com]

And they are fighting every damn one because they don't care she is dead, there are @12,000 posts on there...
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Does it really matter what her age was. Just the idea that she was bullied to the point that she considered death her only out. That would be sad at any age. Harassment is still wrong.
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Fourteen and fifteen is an exceptional age. My daughter is now fifteen and there us no way I can philosophize the unimportance of school "friends" in teh grand scheme of things. They cant see that far, and even if they could, for them a life without friends is a life not worth living.
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I know what you mean. At that age friends are everything. Being accepted by your peers accounts for the majority of what a teen want, and believe will make them important. Only with age do you find out the meaning of true friendship and respect.
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Indeed, other than a few folks from high school that I'm "facebook friends" with, I don't see or talk to ANYONE from high school. Fucking facebook. I check it about twice a year now, only if there's absolutely, positively NOTHING else to do. Other than acquaintances at church and professional colleagues, the only people I spend time with are my family. When it comes down to it, that's all you have, so why waste time cultivating fucking superficial friendships. That shit was just as much a waste of time in high school and college as it is in the real world.
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I have a few close friends. Safer that way. I have been burned to many times. Live and learn I guess.
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sick sick bastards. These motherfuckers need hunted down, and brought to trail for murder, they are responsible for this young girls death.
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It's official. Facebook kills.

If it wasn't for all these useless social networks full of your "friends" this would have never happened.

Parents should not allow developing minds to reach out to so many anonymous personalities - especially in a sexual context. Eventually your kids are going to hit the shit jackpot.
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I look at this girl and i don't like her. Don't know. It's just the way it is. She is dumb, she is superficial, she is selfish, she is all that what makes this planet a cancer.
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You must be the hundredth monkey. Mob mentality :(
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HATE to be the bad guy here... But I've been researching this story all day looking at dates and such of all said "Evidence"...

It's really really starting to look like this is fabricated...

There no confirmation whatsoever of an alleged suicide. The creation of facebook pages related to this were made before she supposedly killed herself...

SHe may have still killed herself but the page was for certain created with the title RIP Amanda Tod a good amount of time before they say she killed herself.

I'm looking through as much of the canadian press in her area that I can find trying to find anything that says officially they found Amanda Todd dead and I can't find it.

IF someone else can please share some solid evidence on this I'll stop but theres also more than what I've put on this reply that suggests something fishy about this whole story...


Now that doesn't mean the bullying is ridiculous awful right now on this planet. I've put an end to a large amount of bullying around here with the help of the ISD's in the area and many parents so I understand how awful the world of bullying is right now. But I'm also smart enough to see holes in stories and this one has Swiss Cheese all over it.

Don't attack me for noticing the obvious please.
 Quoting: XSlyOneX


If you look through the last 11 pages of this thread, you will find links to local Canadian stations like Vancouver news. Also, her original bullies are on this page:
[link to www.youtube.com]

And they are fighting every damn one because they don't care she is dead, there are @12,000 posts on there...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25368284


Vancouver news was one of the first places I visited and yes I saw the article it was still solely based on the video. It still has nothing official on the Actual Amanda Todd. Nothing from her family no official anything on a death. Whenever a death happens especially one of this nature there is always more information and EVERY SINGLE ARTICLE ON this is only based off this video. And yes I've looked through every page of this post.
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straight up neglect
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HATE to be the bad guy here... But I've been researching this story all day looking at dates and such of all said "Evidence"...

It's really really starting to look like this is fabricated...

There no confirmation whatsoever of an alleged suicide. The creation of facebook pages related to this were made before she supposedly killed herself...

SHe may have still killed herself but the page was for certain created with the title RIP Amanda Tod a good amount of time before they say she killed herself.

I'm looking through as much of the canadian press in her area that I can find trying to find anything that says officially they found Amanda Todd dead and I can't find it.

IF someone else can please share some solid evidence on this I'll stop but theres also more than what I've put on this reply that suggests something fishy about this whole story...


Now that doesn't mean the bullying is ridiculous awful right now on this planet. I've put an end to a large amount of bullying around here with the help of the ISD's in the area and many parents so I understand how awful the world of bullying is right now. But I'm also smart enough to see holes in stories and this one has Swiss Cheese all over it.

Don't attack me for noticing the obvious please.
 Quoting: XSlyOneX


If you look through the last 11 pages of this thread, you will find links to local Canadian stations like Vancouver news. Also, her original bullies are on this page:
[link to www.youtube.com]

And they are fighting every damn one because they don't care she is dead, there are @12,000 posts on there...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25368284


Vancouver news was one of the first places I visited and yes I saw the article it was still solely based on the video. It still has nothing official on the Actual Amanda Todd. Nothing from her family no official anything on a death. Whenever a death happens especially one of this nature there is always more information and EVERY SINGLE ARTICLE ON this is only based off this video. And yes I've looked through every page of this post.
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You claim it's a fake..... so what's the motive? Witness protection?
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This issue is really important. To me, its apparent that the initial teens, the boys, may have been involved in the bigger pedifile or porn ring, BUT, they may not have because, their pics and info may just have been hijacked.

There are groups though, with adults and teens that work for the corrupt (cia in my opinion and elite run in my opinion) groups that market kids.

She was told she was beautiful and perfect.

Yeah they wanted her, and so used blackmailing, which didn't work, so that made them switch to destroy her mode as a lesson to other children and teens who they target, to scare them.

And so adults hearing this are thinking of the ways they would deal with this and even what needs to be done, for our privacy is being violated.

However, the children themselves, who are in similar situations, they look at this in a different way, as pressure to be blackmailed.

Schools, and Adults and communities need to deal with this issue up front and expose this blackmailing pedifile/porn ring for what it is and stand by and raise the roof and ways for girls to come forward if this is happening to them and protect them from the fallout, and keep them safe emotionally.

Need to start working on this particular issue, not just bullying over all.
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Stories like this one and the trauma I have seen my own teenager go through due to longterm bullying are the reasons I will keep doing my best to raise anti-bullying awareness in my community and beyond until the day I die.

Rest in peace Amanda Todd, I am so sorry you were abused and scapegoated by these selfish and unempathic bullies. They all have your blood on their hands. I wish that just one genuine bystander from your peer groups had reached out to you, that one teacher had taken you under their wing.

I hope your family were loving and kind and were there for you - sometimes this is not enough for a young teen who is looking for acceptance and belonging within their own peer group. This is how young people define themselves, they are individuating from parents and family at this time and defining self by feedback from peers is a normal part of development. Please do not lay blame at the feet of this girl's family, the blame lies with the predators and bullies who used and abused her. The abuse that Amanda Todd survived was far worse - what a strong girl she was to hang on so long.

My child has had my support 24/7, she endured 18months of targeted bullying where she was ostracised from her peer/year group and sleep overs, outings, parties etc. I took her out of the school as they were doing nothing to stop it. At the worst point, I was worried she would end her own life and watched her very closely for months as she slowly recovered. She came very close to cutting and wished she could die. She had internalised the bullies put downs and developed very negative self concepts in spite of how we love her and told her differently.

Now she refuses to go to her new school, she controls this by not sleeping at night and by eating very little. She has 100% support from me, family, out of school friends and her new school personnel but the fear of this trauma happening again is enough to stop my beautiful child from taking steps to live again. She promised me she would not physically harm herself but she did choose to emotionally die - I will continue to do everything I can to help her find her will to live again.

We cannot homeschool in our community it is not an option. I have other children happy in school and their lives and so moving country is not an option. Pushing for in school changes to provide my daughter with the support she needs and raising awareness are my only options.

My heart breaks for Amanda Todd and all the children who have lost their lives to Bullycide.
 Quoting: Pharista

I wish you lots of luck with your daughter. The fact that you have taken this seriously and are doing something about it. Makes her chance of getting past this. Greater than some of those poor kids out there.
Tell her their is a rainbow waiting for her when she is ready :)

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This is one of the saddest things I have ever seen, that poor little girl, OMG I can't stop crying..that poor little girl.

R.I.P and God bless her parents and family. OMG.
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It is sad to see how other people can influence some ones life. This should never happened. What I want to know is, how come the family or other responsible adults did not notice something wrong. It seems that she was calling out for help for a long time. A tragedy.

R.I.P. hfbump
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She changed schools and cities, 3 or four times. I am sure the parents knew her plight. But what can they do? You cant force the other kids to stop -- they live in their own little world. The teachers can do little. The parents of the bullies? What can they do? In the end the kids extract revenge on your kid for doing that. I wish I knew an answer....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25399793

If you reach inside yourself you can find the answer.

The parents were responsible for their child. They were complacent in respect to the bullying long with the school teachers etc.

The parents needed to address this bullying. They needed to start with the parents of the children, the school principle and guidance counselor. If they did not get the relief they needed for their child, they should have found an attorney. If they didn't have any money, I'm sure there is an organization to prevent bullying that would have helped.

What I have found is that children need to see that their parents will protect them. This child must have felt very abandoned. How easy it was for them to just move her to another school rather than force the real issue of the bullying. This issue is up all across America, even in the workplace for adults.

Also, originally, this child was left to use the internet in ways that was inappropriate for her age. After the bullying started the parents probably didn't want to deal with their own shame of their daughters original actions that got this issue rolling and their own neglect that led to these actions.

The fact that their daughter was using the internet inappropriatly in the beginning is not an excuse for the bullying. Parents need to be steadfast and buck it up...this bullying has to be stopped.
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I went through a situation of trying to address the isolation and supposed unpopularity of my child at school. You cant get on the inside of teenagers lives. Short of using your house as a party place, no one can.

And teenagers dont want their parents interfering. They will suffer tremendously before they come to the parent asking for help. And even if you see their suffering, if you have a good rapport, they will never allow you to break their confidence by actually doing something. It is really a difficult problem to resolve, short of criminal liability (which the majority of bullying is not). Kids will suicide if they cannot resolve it from the inside...
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I understand what you are saying, but this comes from raising a child to be complacent, to not make waves and that there will be worse repercussions if you stand up for yourself.

It is an art for parents to be able to help their children learn to stand up for what is right.

My home never became a party place. My home became a refuge where my daughters friends could come and know they were safe. Most had working parents who had "checked out" of their children's lives. They all had cell phones so their parents could do the daily check in after school...older latch key kids. They knew that in my home they could have a voice but that didn't mean I agreed with them. I just heard them out, then told them how I felt in return.

The big thing I stressed was that they needed to find strength and guts to stand up for themselves and not be complacent for fear of repercussions.

When my son was a senior, his wrestling team mates had a party at a parents home who was on vacation. My son came home after the match and did not participate, telling me the reason why. The parents house was destroyed and when it came time for punishment, the wrestling coach included my son. His entire team stood up for my son, I stood up for my son, then my son stood up for himself. In the end the coach did the right thing and publicly apologized to my son. It was a crowning moment to see how one kid who didn't participate wasn't bullied but instead protected by his peers.

I know I did my best in parenting - in the least it's the best I know. The proof is in my grown children and who they are now. Of course they aren't perfect, but they are the best they can be.
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this girl killed her self because of CYBER BULLYING????

good riddance
we have more less idiots in this world
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to a child this is their entire world ending when shit like this goes on

she tried to move 3 times and they followed her using free tools on the internet

what kind of a sick asshole are you?

this is a result of a very REAL problem

there is no privacy anymore

and it killed this girl

she couldn't "disappear"

she couldn't "start over"

and she needed too....
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I totally agree.

People are quickly losing the ability to leave the spotlight.

With the internet and its tools the spotlight follows you EVERYWHERE.

Everyone needs their down time where they can hide away from the world to get their mind straight.
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Let me start off by saying this is TERRIBLE, and a COMPLETE TRAGEDY. God bless her.

But let my also say that being involved in this facebook stuff is a choice. Flashing people online is asking for trouble, and she knew it too as evidenced by what she wrote. The issue was not the world as it has been cruel this way for a long time (we just didn't hear about it as much). The issue is WHAT OUR KIDS ARE LEARNING. The issue is HOW WE RAISE OUR KIDS. Another issue with this story is that she slept with someone who was taken. Once again, let me say its a terrible tragedy, and I hate that this happened, but what did she expect when her life was brutal and she continued on a path of making terrible decisions?

I was much like her. Things got ridiculously mean to the point where my foundation of logic, kharma and personal perceptions were questioned and so I tried to kill myself a few times with drugs. I got out, and I have been able to restart and never look back. I'm now 24 with a good career, confidence and friends. But as people said earlier - I didn't restart my life on facebook. Yes it was tough, but thanks to a GREAT MOM, I was helped through. Thanks to a good upbringing, I always had that voice that said 'dont do it'.

Something surely needs to change, but please let this be a message to anyone here with children -- you can really make a difference in our lives.

Maybe, just maybe, the issue is the world that increasingly moves in the direction of younger sex, drugs and alcohol. We need role models, and someone that just works and gets through life and ignores their child is not a role model.

Talk to your children. Read to your young ones at a young age. Give us skills, and foundation. Give us the knowledge to know better. Stop the wheels and turn this picture around.
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Never let your teen go on webcam. So she was like 13-14 years when flashing?

Hope some parents here learn something. Never let your teen go on webcam.
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If that's all you've got to offer considering this tragedy, then you might consider head therapy yourself.
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hard to feel sad for anyone that takes their own life.

suicide is not the answer.

revenge is sweeter.
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Stories like this one and the trauma I have seen my own teenager go through due to longterm bullying are the reasons I will keep doing my best to raise anti-bullying awareness in my community and beyond until the day I die.

Rest in peace Amanda Todd, I am so sorry you were abused and scapegoated by these selfish and unempathic bullies. They all have your blood on their hands. I wish that just one genuine bystander from your peer groups had reached out to you, that one teacher had taken you under their wing.

I hope your family were loving and kind and were there for you - sometimes this is not enough for a young teen who is looking for acceptance and belonging within their own peer group. This is how young people define themselves, they are individuating from parents and family at this time and defining self by feedback from peers is a normal part of development. Please do not lay blame at the feet of this girl's family, the blame lies with the predators and bullies who used and abused her. The abuse that Amanda Todd survived was far worse - what a strong girl she was to hang on so long.

My child has had my support 24/7, she endured 18months of targeted bullying where she was ostracised from her peer/year group and sleep overs, outings, parties etc. I took her out of the school as they were doing nothing to stop it. At the worst point, I was worried she would end her own life and watched her very closely for months as she slowly recovered. She came very close to cutting and wished she could die. She had internalised the bullies put downs and developed very negative self concepts in spite of how we love her and told her differently.

Now she refuses to go to her new school, she controls this by not sleeping at night and by eating very little. She has 100% support from me, family, out of school friends and her new school personnel but the fear of this trauma happening again is enough to stop my beautiful child from taking steps to live again. She promised me she would not physically harm herself but she did choose to emotionally die - I will continue to do everything I can to help her find her will to live again.

We cannot homeschool in our community it is not an option. I have other children happy in school and their lives and so moving country is not an option. Pushing for in school changes to provide my daughter with the support she needs and raising awareness are my only options.

My heart breaks for Amanda Todd and all the children who have lost their lives to Bullycide.
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I wish you lots of luck with your daughter. The fact that you have taken this seriously and are doing something about it. Makes her chance of getting past this. Greater than some of those poor kids out there.
Tell her their is a rainbow waiting for her when she is ready :)

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Yes Pharista I agree with blue skies

Great job supporting your daughter, as a child of vicious bullying I can understand what your daughter is going thru, the only difference and one I am grateful for was back then in the late 80's and early 90's there was no internet or I know for a fact it would have been really bad.
The things they did to me made me cry constantly, refuse to go to school and fight my parents relentlessly just to stay home, it was pure torture.

With a parent like you and your support your daughter will be ok.
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A permanent solution to a temporary problem. Where were her parents?
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thats what I was thinking

although sometimes kids will be kids I cant see how parents cant catch on if their daughter is this severely depressed
 Quoting: Philligan


I agree. At what point during this series of events would a normal, rational parent step in and put a stop to this? That didn't happen, and they let their little girl die.
 Quoting: Rising Son


Note she started on antidepressants when only 13 which give CHILDREN suicidal tendencies. She classifies as a child.
The weight of what she carried was more than unbearable without the probable influence of antidepressants pushing her all the way over the edge.
They have been contraindicated with clear warnings for 5 years already and yet that has not stopped prescribing these medications.

I can't tell you how helpless a parent is when their child is being bullied. We don't know the whole story from their side.
They got "medical" help and changed her school three times in the span of 1 1/2 years.
She wrote she wanted to live with her mother meaning she came from a broken home and was looking for friends as any CHILD will do, and this Facebook stalking followed her wherever she went making a fresh start impossible.

Poor little darlin. Terrible cynical introduction to life and finding her place, a sense of safety and trust, developing an identity, and having her innocence dragged in the mud.

Definitely get some stringent rules to protect kids from cyberstalking.
That has to happen and Facebook et al is also responsible to create rules as well as instant barring certain bad bad people from using it at the first sign of misuse.
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Just out of curiosity where can we access the original topless pics?
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HATE to be the bad guy here... But I've been researching this story all day looking at dates and such of all said "Evidence"...

It's really really starting to look like this is fabricated...

There no confirmation whatsoever of an alleged suicide. The creation of facebook pages related to this were made before she supposedly killed herself...

SHe may have still killed herself but the page was for certain created with the title RIP Amanda Tod a good amount of time before they say she killed herself.

I'm looking through as much of the canadian press in her area that I can find trying to find anything that says officially they found Amanda Todd dead and I can't find it.

IF someone else can please share some solid evidence on this I'll stop but theres also more than what I've put on this reply that suggests something fishy about this whole story...


Now that doesn't mean the bullying is ridiculous awful right now on this planet. I've put an end to a large amount of bullying around here with the help of the ISD's in the area and many parents so I understand how awful the world of bullying is right now. But I'm also smart enough to see holes in stories and this one has Swiss Cheese all over it.

Don't attack me for noticing the obvious please.
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If you look through the last 11 pages of this thread, you will find links to local Canadian stations like Vancouver news. Also, her original bullies are on this page:
[link to www.youtube.com]

And they are fighting every damn one because they don't care she is dead, there are @12,000 posts on there...
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Vancouver news was one of the first places I visited and yes I saw the article it was still solely based on the video. It still has nothing official on the Actual Amanda Todd. Nothing from her family no official anything on a death. Whenever a death happens especially one of this nature there is always more information and EVERY SINGLE ARTICLE ON this is only based off this video. And yes I've looked through every page of this post.
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I hope this puts the question of validity to rest:

Underneath the video is posted:
Thu, Oct 11 - Coquitlam RCMP are investigating the death of a teenaged girl who posted a heartbreaking video online detailing her nightmare of bullying. Darlene Heidemann reports.


Read more: [link to www.canada.com]
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A permanent solution to a temporary problem. Where were her parents?
 Quoting: Rising Son


thats what I was thinking

although sometimes kids will be kids I cant see how parents cant catch on if their daughter is this severely depressed
 Quoting: Philligan


I agree. At what point during this series of events would a normal, rational parent step in and put a stop to this? That didn't happen, and they let their little girl die.
 Quoting: Rising Son


Note she started on antidepressants when only 13 which give CHILDREN suicidal tendencies. She classifies as a child.
The weight of what she carried was more than unbearable without the probable influence of antidepressants pushing her all the way over the edge.
They have been contraindicated with clear warnings for 5 years already and yet that has not stopped prescribing these medications.

I can't tell you how helpless a parent is when their child is being bullied. We don't know the whole story from their side.
They got "medical" help and changed her school three times in the span of 1 1/2 years.
She wrote she wanted to live with her mother meaning she came from a broken home and was looking for friends as any CHILD will do, and this Facebook stalking followed her wherever she went making a fresh start impossible.

Poor little darlin. Terrible cynical introduction to life and finding her place, a sense of safety and trust, developing an identity, and having her innocence dragged in the mud.

Definitely get some stringent rules to protect kids from cyberstalking.
That has to happen and Facebook et al is also responsible to create rules as well as instant barring certain bad bad people from using it at the first sign of misuse.
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absolutely
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