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please show me DNA and archaeological evidence of: Moses, David, Solomon, Abraham, John the Baptist, Jesus....ANYONE....by this point we have dug

 
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please show me DNA and archaeological evidence of: Moses, David, Solomon, Abraham, John the Baptist, Jesus....ANYONE....by this point we have dug up people from every time period in history but still NO biblical characters.

Not trying to be disrespectful, but blind faith is good for no-one.

Let us debate and show evidence. I am ready. Are you?

Christians! It's time to witness....
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3 or 4 years back, I saw in the news about a casket that was possibly 'james' casket.. that is, jesus's brothers casket.. and that it got damaged on the way to the usa..

I will try to find it.. it was 5 or 6 years ago..
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read about the life of saint issah, old book but it is about some archelogical evidence about jesus, that the buddhists have.
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If you're looking for evidence, and the truth becomes inconvenient, do you just disregard it?

It would seem my experience is not out of the ordinary.
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Re: please show me DNA and archaeological evidence of: Moses, David, Solomon, Abraham, John the Baptist, Jesus....ANYONE....by this point we have dug
I wonder if Jesus weeps or laughs???
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Re: please show me DNA and archaeological evidence of: Moses, David, Solomon, Abraham, John the Baptist, Jesus....ANYONE....by this point we have dug
Don't do history channel much do you?
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Re: please show me DNA and archaeological evidence of: Moses, David, Solomon, Abraham, John the Baptist, Jesus....ANYONE....by this point we have dug
At this point in time, I'm not aware that there is any
DNA nor archeological evidence in public archives anywhere.

Before we continue, I would like to know how you differentiate "blind faith" from "a gift of faith which is supposedly given to an individual by trial from a Supreme Being - a supposed gift given by God to a mortal being from experiential adversarial circumstances surrounding the being's life.

For example, like the trials of Moses in the wilderness, and also Jesus, and the trials of Job, according to the stories written in the Christian Bible, to wit: Old and New Testaments. There are more stories in The Book; but, these three will make my point at the moment, ok.

It would be difficult to verify those trials in accordance to the Scientific Method, even if those trials existed with-in the last week.

The interpretation of the explanation of one's internal experience (by anyone)is still up for grabs. How does one demonstrate accurately an internal process,particularly when one has been the recipient of the process(s?

If there is no physical evidence, then how can anything be tested scientifically by the "correct" peers of science?

Obviously, it's not able to be done, until the evidence has been "put on the table", so to say, for examination and testing for all to see and get involved?

At the present I would have to re-research "old stuff" of mine to at least verify the archeology of a discovered city
called Ebla - I'll re-read some of it for you, unless you're already familiar with the dig.

At the moment, I think that King David's person and maybe, another (I'll check) name was related to certain biblical characters. I think that King David was referred to as "Daviduum(?)". I'm not sure but I think the dig was maybe in the 1950,s?

Let it be stated, for the record, that Christians are to witness their beliefs by faith, not by the more, or less, Scientific Method.

There are all kinds of written records in which there is no physical evidence other than the writing itself.
They must, of course, be reviewed in their proper context, though.

The converted Christian is to just simply tell their faith story. No scientific evidence is needed - and that's OK. It's their interpretations of their relationships to their belief-experiences with their Deity.

And if there's no scientific evidence to back their interpretations of their experiences - that's OK.

Much research is also based on testimony without physical evidence, and much physical evidence reveals not everything is as obvious, nor needs to be, as some seem to think it ought to be.

The "Higher Criticisms of The Bible" is another good source for consideration. I believe that Dr. Schweitzer was trying to give people another approach to trying to ascertain whatever the truth may reveal itself to be.

One good source about the Christian Bible was written around WWII, and has an historically developmental introduction in it, which gives one some more resource, such as the Septuagent? It's called "The Moffat Bible".

One doesn't have to obviously "challenge" a Christian to defend their beliefs. One need not confuse one method of acceptance with another, after all, ALL KNOWLEDGE IS TENATIVE AT BEST!

Let's keep the apples and oranges separated for the benefit of all.

If I were researching for the evidence that you seem to be looking for, I would be working with someone who actualliy was on the cutting-edge of the research, whether they're Christian or not!

Show you the DNA? Do you know where an electron microscope is available, and do you actually know how to set up the alignments properly so you can use it? It's definitely not like using a "Toy's 'R Us" model!

If you don't; then, maybe you need to, before challenging Christians.

But, if you do know and/or perhaps have done so; then, why would you hope to argue with some people of lesser knowledge and experience than yourself"

With all due respect intended.

PS: Have you figured out yet, what "blind" faith really seems to be? Just curious.

I would think you also need to define what "being ready" really means to you. To me, it means nothing at all.

To intentionally "dig" up a person from the bible lands, to me, means that, perhaps one must know where they specifically died, and hope that no one has moved, altered, nor fabricated them, in any way, if they are passed from one to another by earlier diggers.

With no writings giving some type of specific information, it would, perhaps, make it highly improbable to know where to start to look for the evidence.

What proof of DNA can be used to say that the bones of King David from the O.T. are, in fact, the one's you have under the microscope?

How would a person today, knowing how to use a Electron Microscope, be able to identify the bone, teeth, or hair remains of a person who died +/- 3000 or more years ago?

How would you know the properties that you were able to find today, would be the same properties that belong to King David? Is there even any evidence of what his physical properties would have been?

If any remains found could be claimed verifiably that they actually belonged to King David of the O.T.; then, it oould probably be determined by his delineage of being Hebrew, only; becsuse that is a recent method that took six years to yield the relationship of the Hebrews from Mose's clan to certain African blacks!

King David obviously hasn't been dead as long as Moses or Abraham, has he?

If "Lucy", and other fossils csn be identified, so could the Bible characters, once they were discovered. I't not an impossible feat; but, before being attempted, there must be certain factors already in place, correct?

Question; Have you ever done a "dig" with a team?

Finding someone's pet cat or dog bones in the backyard, doesn't count!

Good luck with your journey.













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Re: please show me DNA and archaeological evidence of: Moses, David, Solomon, Abraham, John the Baptist, Jesus....ANYONE....by this point we have dug
I find it odd that not one remnant of Solomons original
temple has ever been found. Even though it was
burned, most relics of value..and there was alot of
gold, would have been looted, and turned up somewhere.

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