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Why would he state a "black President" and not call him by name? Everyone knows Obama.
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I've been lurking a while on this amazing forum, and I've finally decided that some of the content I'm about to post may actually contribute to the forum, so consider this my first post!

Just recently I saw a post that a time traveller (back in 2000) claimed to have been from December 2012 and was sent back as a military experiment. He was sent to warn the sheeple about the future...

"According to journalist Richard Sierra, who interviewed him at the time, he seemed very confident in his words, "seemed very lucid and kept repeating that a huge disaster happened in December 2012."

At that time there was no talk about the Mayans or anything like that, on the contrary, the fashionable prophecies were doomsday by the end of the millennium and the whole Y2K."
^Excerpt taken from Red Hot Chilean Pepe's thread Thread: The strange case of the Chilean that came from the future (article posted in Chilean Newspaper in 2000 becomes eerily accurate)

In it he describes about how in October 2012, the president will discover the ruins of an ancient civilisation on mars through an unmanned mission (NASA just landed there, already found a metal shard). We will also be lead under the premise of an 'alien invasion' into creating a 'joint force' (NWO?) "between China, Japan, Russia and the United States, to avoid an alleged alien attack, which was rather controversial, because there were groups who claimed it was all a ploy to bring totalitarianism in the world."

"In late 2012 the Earth passed trough an enormous social and economic crisis, which opened given way to social unrest in many countries in Europe and Asia, causing pestilence and famine in countries like Spain and France. Also had increased earthquakes and tsunamis, and heat waves had swept away all of Eastern Europe."

Connecting the dots here, I see a pattern emerging with some sources I've observed... I attempted to search my history for the youtube video which talks about the climate problems atm (in chronological order and up to date) where he posted something like 65 series of this show, and he has now cancelled the series. If anyone could provide a link for this that would be great. In this youtube video I distinctly remember it saying that we will have a false flag until March 2013...

I can also vaguely remember someone telling me that the first time MCM reports about alien invasions it will be a false flag and the government would have already negotiated with the race... (need more evidence here though, don't call me a shill, I said vaguely remember tomato)

It is very likely possible, that in the event of MCM reporting that there has been the ruins of an alien civilisation on mars during this month, than this man could have potentially been telling the truth the whole way along. Because of this I'm curious as to what you guys think. Also some other resources for any more hypotheses would be great.

Sidenote: What would anyones predictions on this event be (date/end result?) based on factual/theoretical evidence and number crunching.

Date? Possibly late in October since MCM has only reported recently of the metal shard.
End result? False flag.
 Quoting: Jaid0gz


Thank you for posting this, I totally missed this (must have been looking at something else besides the forum that day). I will check out the other link and read more on this. But as I have commented before and now I totally believe that there used to be life on Mars and in fact the civilization part may be true. Remember Rush Limbaugh went on a diatribe back in 2004 about the "Gore report" saying that there is life on Mars. Then talking about how that life destroyed there planet through overproduction and such. This is what concerns me about Rush and his statement. He could have been making a joke, but why make a weird joke like this.

He already has followers and the people who listen to him will pay attention. I think that he let out something that he was told (this was around the time he was having troubles with prescription medicine and doping) long ago and during his fight with drugs it slipped out. This was pulled quickly from the radio and you can still find it on youtube (look for Rush talking about life on Mars).
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2013 would be way too late for a false flag and also contradict the claim that this huge disaster will take place in December 2012.

In addition, eastern europe still seems like a nice place to be, at least climate-wise. No excessive heat waves i know of.

I'd really like to believe that time traveler story, but i think it's bull because of the inconsistencies above.


There are many fascinating time traveler reports but sadly most of them seem to be disinfo crap, same goes for all those ET hoaxes.
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Why would he state a "black President" and not call him by name? Everyone knows Obama.
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That a good question, actually.

All I can think is, if this event did happen, the original journalist was advised not to name names, so a paradox could not be created.

Wiki states:

"...He worked as a civil rights attorney in Chicago and taught constitutional law at the University of Chicago Law School from 1992 to 2004.

He served three terms representing the 13th District in the Illinois Senate from 1997 to 2004, running unsuccessfully for the United States House of Representatives in 2000."


When the 'time travel' event allegedly happens, Barack Obama is a running for office.

In fact, perhaps they could NOT use the name of a real person, when reporting the story...libel laws.
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I think i misquoted, so I erased this comment

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How about this ya'll? Find a map where Curiosity is currently located on Mars. Search around the images/etc within the distance of time left within October time frame. Also find out why they placed Curiosity there. Why did they select that location? So get to work, we got some Aliens to find if were gonna make this October Deadline.
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Just watching that video now, this is the link.



He does slip up in the beginning and say area 52 New Mexico, unless I'm just unaware of Area 52 and so is google. He continues to say area 52 in the video, so I'm confused.

For people who don't have fast/much interwebs: [link to www.divinecosmos.com]
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How about this ya'll? Find a map where Curiosity is currently located on Mars. Search around the images/etc within the distance of time left within October time frame. Also find out why they placed Curiosity there. Why did they select that location? So get to work, we got some Aliens to find if were gonna make this October Deadline.
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lmao
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Pandora's Box is open it seems... that one tiny bug on Mars...



Once up a time, a long time ago, Zeus ordered Hephaestus (Aphrodite's husband) to make him a daughter. It was the first woman made out of clay. Hephaestus made a beautiful woman and named her Pandora.

Zeus sent his new daughter, Pandora, down to earth so that she could marry Epimetheus, who was a gentle but lonely man.

Zeus was not being kind. He was getting even. Epimetheus and Prometheus were brothers. Zeus was mad at one of the brothers, Prometheus, for giving people fire without asking Zeus first.

Zeus gave Pandora a little box with a big heavy lock on it. He made her promise never to open the box. He gave the key to Pandora’s husband and told him to never open the box. Zeus was sure that Epimetheus' curiosity would get the better of him, and that either Epimetheus or his brother would open the box.

Pandora was very curious. She wanted to see what was inside the box, but Epimetheus said no. Better not. "You know your father," Epimetheus sighed, referring to Zeus. "He’s a tricky one."

One day, when Epimetheus lay sleeping, Pandora stole the key and opened the box.

Out flew every kind of disease and sickness, hate and envy, and all the bad things that people had never experienced before. Pandora slammed the lid closed, but it was too late. All the bad things were already out of the box. They flew away, out into the world.

Epimetheus woke up at the sound of her sobbing. “I opened the box and all these ugly things flew out,” she cried. “I tried to catch them, but they all got out.” Pandora opened the box to show him how empty it was. But the box was not quite empty. One tiny bug flew quickly out before Pandora could slam the lid shut again.

“Hello, Pandora,” said the bug, hovering just out of reach. “My name is Hope.” With a nod of thanks for being set free, Hope flew out into the world, a world that now held Envy, Crime, Hate, and Disease – and Hope.
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And so everyone still assumes that there is only one past, and only one future. Time is not an arrow. Just because a time traveler says that he has come back from the future, it does not mean in the least that it is OUR future. Or even if it WAS our future, it does not mean that it still HAS TO BE our future.

Wouldn't life REALLY SUCK if you KNEW that there was only one possible future?

Every one of us, at each and every moment in time, creates our future, which can be completely different than the future of someone else. Parallel lives and times. Nothing is ever set in stone. The person who sees the future, sees only one probable future. Not necessarily the ONLY ONE.

Thats simply the way it is. No one is wrong if the future they saw does not happen. Its just that they were attracted to a different future than the one they saw.
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Look at this animated gif a member made:

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Watch the black spot. That thing didn't just fall off and land where it is, that black spot had to fly.
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Could be a spot on the camera. The angle moves a little between each frame. The rock in the background changes angles. The black dot can be seen in the first shot too. You would need to see more photos to make a reasonable assumption .
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Does anyone have any links besides this: [link to www.portalnet.cl]

On that link, it shows a supposed newspaper from 11/20/2000 that reportedly ran the story... But I've got news for you. That image is a shopped image. The giveaway for me is the pixelation around the "story" text on the page. It doesn't match the other text at the top of the page "Denuncian matanza...."

If this is a scan of the news paper, why does the pixel density change in the area of the story?
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that's really not hard to verify, many places (e.g. libraries) should have archives of that very newspaper. Is there a fellow Chilean that could verify this? This could be BIG if true but if nobody could verify it then it's just another hoax

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Mars: What's really going on and why won't they tell you? And why the strong connection to Egypt? And what does Mars have to do with poison, chemtrails and food contamination?
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The sphinx, the face, the little green men. Historians seems to always have a fascination with Mars and its possible correlations with ancient Egypt.
I had to really do some digging in the codes about ancient Mars because everything on the front is what is going on up there now and what will be happening there in the future. There is a lot of activity on Mars despite what the powers that be would have you to believe.
Mars contains military bases, captives, abductees, aliens, humans being held there against their will and more people will be joining them as those caught off guard and kidnapped via the False Rapture of the Blue Beam Project when the Antichrist, posing as the messiah, descends to earth. "UFO's" will be snatching over 100,000 people off the earth to mimmick the rapture that the modern church has been conditioned to believe will happen.
And who said government and religion are separate. It makes you think that they've been working together all along to perpetrate the biggest hoax of all time. In fact, they have. The pre-tribulation teaching and the Blue Beam Project go hand in hand in working together to make thousands of people disappear, and then the world will witness the arrival of a "Messiah."
Christians will be in a panic. I see it all the time in the codes. Many people are caught off-guard by these coming hoaxes that they think are actual and real events. Often times Scripture is misunderstood, so many people will learn too late that the doctrines they've put all their faith into were and are wrong. Many believers have egos bigger than Mt. Sinai. They do not seek the truth from the Lord Himself, yet they do not want to be told they are wrong about anything. Most will not even hear of such a possibility even existing. If these believers knew or were prepared for what was coming they would not be described as being in terror and in a panic.
From my research in the Bible Codes, I learned that the nations on Mars had joined with those on Earth and Rahab in the rebellion against Yahweh. Mars was also judged and destroyed with hailstones and fire just as Earth and Rahab had been. Although spared from being cast out of our solar alignment, it would remain largely a wasteland and most of the inhabitants left would seek shelter underground. With their cities destroyed, they would never be rebuilt to prominence again. The life they had known and enjoyed was over. But they would seek, as Satan did, to corrupt the new creation on Earth with some of their own. They infiltrated in what is now known as Egypt, or perhaps some of their own had escaped God's wrath and Judgment on the earth for its role in the rebellion against Him. The sphinx, the face on mars, and other abnomolies yet to be explained, are all in relation to their brethren on Mars. The terms Egypt - Egyptian - Remnant - Kinsman were intersecting in the Mars Codes as indicated on my website at hiddencodes.com. Ancient Egyptians were related to Martians. They were of the same seed and heritage.
Now before you start laughing at the facts, remember the little green men are not Martians. That was created for public consumption. The little green men, also known as greys, are a created species who do the footwork for the larger lizard race, the Reptilians. In short, they are slaves of the Reptilians and are controlled by them.
Satan had ruled over Mars. Although his home planet was Rahab, Lucifer had dominion over several planets, perhaps even our entire solar system at one time. We know that the Watchers inhabit Venus now and some of the unknown or unannounced planets in our star constellations. Lucifer's specific extent of rule is unknown. And how he relates to the Watchers is relatively unknown. Did he gain dominion over them when they fell? Does he govern and rule over the heavens as he once did? Or did he just retain a portion of what he once had?
The Bible indicates that fallen angels still inhabit Mars. Also known as Jedi, they are either captives of the planet, have captives on the planet, or both. Either way, Mars is still a dwelling place for fallen celestial races, ruled by Lucifer, and is going to be a stepping stone in the implementation of the New World Order and the role they play in it. There are many, perhaps millions of them, who are not free to roam around the surface of the planet, or to fly around space and visit earth as others can. These fallen angels are held captive chained inside Mars, which is a hollow planet, and will be released during the end times when Satan is given permission by Yahweh to release them.
Until this time, many of those who participated in Lucifer's rebellion against the Lord have been chained in captivity. During the last days, Lucifer will finally be able to release these hordes of followers to help him gain control of Earth. They will come from Planet X - Rahab, Mars, and from inside our own planet Earth.
We really do not know too much about Mars. We know the pictures are always doctored and covered up before NASA ever releases them to the public. We know that the red atmosphere is over-emphasized and exaggerated. Former employees of NASA have claimed that the atmosphere is almost identical to earth's and that there is indeed a great cover-up when it comes to Mars. Some even claim we have military bases on Mars and that the public does not know half the truth of what is really going on up there.
I don’t think we do either. From what the Bible reveals in its hidden layers, there is more going on there and somewhere it's happening between a wasteland and hidden bases where people are working, living, and even being imprisoned.
The Bible reveals, that Mars had or has pilots, and they can travel throughout the cosmos. They are dimensional. They live on the planet and they can live on the earth or under the earth. Usually most aliens prefer under the earth in underground caverns, even bases, to stay out of the public's eye and the sunlight. Most are sensitive to bright light. Their claims of interdimensional travel are lies, although Lucifer himself does have access to the throne of God to accuse the Lord's believers before Him as the Word says.

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Nice fiction story there.We must have different bibles mate.
But...there is a small fraction of truth probably in this.
Mars is hollow? Hey that's nothing new, so is earth, or some folks say. Yeah, they don't know either. Venus is habital?
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Does anyone have any links besides this: [link to www.portalnet.cl]

On that link, it shows a supposed newspaper from 11/20/2000 that reportedly ran the story... But I've got news for you. That image is a shopped image. The giveaway for me is the pixelation around the "story" text on the page. It doesn't match the other text at the top of the page "Denuncian matanza...."

If this is a scan of the news paper, why does the pixel density change in the area of the story?
 Quoting: Travis Bickle


that's really not hard to verify, many places (e.g. libraries) should have archives of that very newspaper. Is there a fellow Chilean that could verify this? This could be BIG if true but if nobody could verify it then it's just another hoax

tissue
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I vote hoax! Time travelers not ruling out but they are not going to be coming out telling their stories on the internet. Sorry. Wishful thinking there
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And so everyone still assumes that there is only one past, and only one future. Time is not an arrow. Just because a time traveler says that he has come back from the future, it does not mean in the least that it is OUR future. Or even if it WAS our future, it does not mean that it still HAS TO BE our future.

Wouldn't life REALLY SUCK if you KNEW that there was only one possible future?

Every one of us, at each and every moment in time, creates our future, which can be completely different than the future of someone else. Parallel lives and times. Nothing is ever set in stone. The person who sees the future, sees only one probable future. Not necessarily the ONLY ONE.

Thats simply the way it is. No one is wrong if the future they saw does not happen. Its just that they were attracted to a different future than the one they saw.
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And so everyone still assumes that there is only one past, and only one future. Time is not an arrow. Just because a time traveler says that he has come back from the future, it does not mean in the least that it is OUR future. Or even if it WAS our future, it does not mean that it still HAS TO BE our future.

Wouldn't life REALLY SUCK if you KNEW that there was only one possible future?
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your so called "UFO" false flag will come from Iran. as they already have a system. more information can be found at the Keshe Foundation website. [link to www.keshespace.com]
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Just watching that video now, this is the link.



He does slip up in the beginning and say area 52 New Mexico, unless I'm just unaware of Area 52 and so is google. He continues to say area 52 in the video, so I'm confused.

For people who don't have fast/much interwebs: [link to www.divinecosmos.com]
 Quoting: Jaid0gz


This is incredible! Limbaugh pointing accusing fingers at Cheney, Halliburton and others, stating that they didn't learn anything in destroying Mars, now they are destroying Earth, by sucking it dry of its natural resources, showing the polar caps melting...

I am confused, yet, amazed.

These words are actually being typed here, who woulda thunk it: Yeah, Limbaugh!
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Ok thats it.

You cannot travel back in time. Period. Going forward is highly questionable too, but time travelling ahead is the only way forward.

Think about it, with such super advanced type I civilizations in the universe and the possibility of intergalactic war with other races and from would be rime travelling their enemy time lines and destroying their foes, whilst they enemy does the same too, which would essentially cancel out all future existence of races.

You see how silly that sounds? Going back in time to eliminate the enemy race - it just doesn't and wouldn't happen otherwise some mad scientist would rule the world by now using a manipulated timeline.

More inconceivable that time travellers especially with cell phones, would return to a previous world line or timeline, and make wild predictions - some of which may or may not be true or was taken from part of an agenda known only to the priviliged few of that time, of future world events ( think Vonn Braun)

I suppose if we look at the georgia guidstones, once might surmise that that is a fuire worldline and that perhaps titor or some other starman from the future commissioned whilst being sqpped back to the eighties.
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Just watching that video now, this is the link.



He does slip up in the beginning and say area 52 New Mexico, unless I'm just unaware of Area 52 and so is google. He continues to say area 52 in the video, so I'm confused.

For people who don't have fast/much interwebs: [link to www.divinecosmos.com]
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Maybe it's a reference to Dulce, NM. That's a notorious site.
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Curiouser Curiouser, a strange type of rock has been found on mars.

"The rock, a highly fractionated alkalic rock type, is relatively well known to geologists because it is common in rift zones on Earth and island chains such as the Hawaiian Islands.

“This is a rock type which had not been seen before” by previous Mars rovers including Spirit and Opportunity, said Roger Weins, principle investigator for Curiosity’s ChemCam instrument, during a NASA press conference Oct. 11. It forms under relatively high pressure and often in the presence of water. While Curiosity is mostly focused on sedimentary rocks that could indicate the presence of past conditions for life, Matijevic is an igneous rock that likely formed about 5 miles under the Martian surface."

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Just found a thread from a google search about Dulce, New Mexico. Seems like an interesting read and I'm just about to start reading it. The name of this website isn't allowed to be posted here because the "staff are a bunch of uptight control freaks, we do not allow their content or references to their website to be posted or linked to on GodlikeProductions.com"


Started reading about dulce and ended up in 'UFO conspiracy theory' on wikipedia. Down the bottom (in the section about MoD secret files, it says that 8 files were released between '78 to '87 were released in 2008, but there are 200 files expected to be released (or to have already been released) this year. This would co-incide with questions like 'why now?' because if they are going to dump so many files this year, why weren't they released in the 2008 dump when only 8 files were released?

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

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Some gullible fuckers on this site. 1 star. Cunt.
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Just found a thread from a google search about Dulce, New Mexico. Seems like an interesting read and I'm just about to start reading it. The name of this website isn't allowed to be posted here because the "staff are a bunch of uptight control freaks, we do not allow their content or references to their website to be posted or linked to on GodlikeProductions.com"
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Sorry forgot to log in before. There was actually an episode on UFO Hunters about that very site (Dulce). Really freaky stuff. Shortly after the series was cancelled. There might be a utube vid of it floating around.
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Some gullible fuckers on this site. 1 star. Cunt.
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It's called deductive reasoning. If this event actually happens, which many MCM reports are floating towards... You'd go into hiding because you would of known I was right. Eat a dick cunt, the shill doesn't even have a country. I bet you're American, close minded fuckwit
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okay we will see
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Someone asked me if Obama was teleported to Mars and back.
No.
Then they asked me if that guy Andrew was teleported to Mars.

I heard about the Pegasus Project, but that happens many years after my time, so I am told.

I also have a model of a future starship bridge. The kind we will use to travel in our solar system. Anybody care to see it?
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Ok thats it.

You cannot travel back in time. Period. Going forward is highly questionable too, but time travelling ahead is the only way forward.

Think about it, with such super advanced type I civilizations in the universe and the possibility of intergalactic war with other races and from would be rime travelling their enemy time lines and destroying their foes, whilst they enemy does the same too, which would essentially cancel out all future existence of races.

You see how silly that sounds? Going back in time to eliminate the enemy race - it just doesn't and wouldn't happen otherwise some mad scientist would rule the world by now using a manipulated timeline.

More inconceivable that time travellers especially with cell phones, would return to a previous world line or timeline, and make wild predictions - some of which may or may not be true or was taken from part of an agenda known only to the priviliged few of that time, of future world events ( think Vonn Braun)

I suppose if we look at the georgia guidstones, once might surmise that that is a fuire worldline and that perhaps titor or some other starman from the future commissioned whilst being sqpped back to the eighties.
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Nicely explained! I see your point; it seems valid and logical.

Still, if we were living in a society where we were told the truth, we wouldn't even entertain the thought that we were ever being lied to about something.

So, we are left to our own devices to consider something, and discern what is truth, and, what is not.

It's an interesting topic.

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