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Vitamin D3 discussion

 
thetrickybigguy
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Take gel caps or liquid not pills or powder. Much more effective. 5000 iU / day for me.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25199763


gel caps and liquid is no where near as absorbed as these products right here.

the ONLY way in can get better absorbtion is with an IV....

90% absorbed in 22 to 30 seconds right into the blood stream COMPLETELY by-passing the gastro tract.

[link to www.vitamist.com]
 Quoting: thetrickybigguy


The web site looks suspicious to me -- they don't even tell you how long the vials last or how many applications they contain.
 Quoting: Super Bowl Dave


first of all they are listed in the PDR for their high absorbtion rate and they are pure, organic and there are NO binders or fillers and wax like you have in pills and capsules.

my dad died three years ago from cancer and when he was sick his B levels were low at 200 and he sprayed four of them and five days later they took his blood and his levels were at 920.

it is all about absorbtion and with pills you are lucky to get 10% absorbed and then your body will get rid of the rest and that is why your urine is green, yellow or gold, that is the excess nutrients leaving your body cause it can only absorb so much so fast.

one tube is a thirty day supply with two sprays four times a day because your body flushes several times a day.

i use nine diferent products and they make me feel amazing because they feed your body properly.

believe me my friend, Mayor Pharm is a highly reputable company.

Last Edited by thetrickybigguy on 10/13/2012 09:45 AM
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I've been suspicious of this issue since the Vitamin D supplementation by prescription bandwagon started. I remember reading at the time (don't have a reference) that the government/AMA? had changed the Vitamin D blood serum range. In the former range eveyone pretty much fell in the normal range, then they changed the range and overnight millioons of people were clinically low. How does that happen? What was the rationale behind the change. I feel like there is more to us than has been let on.

Edit, I just had another thought. Suppose the sunscreen industry is responsible for clinically low levels of vitamin D? Thats a multi-billion dollar industry, hmmmm. They would certainly have a vested interest in the truth not being fully revealed, so just tell the sheeple to take this pill!!!
 Quoting: Isis One


[link to www.naturalnews.com]

Well, Dr. Hector from University of Wisconsin-Madison patented over 100 variants of vitamin D to treat all kinds of diseases brought on by chronic vitamin D deficiency...
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Go to www.iherb.com and use code GUJ744

- If the order totals more than $40, they will receive $10 off!
- If the order totals less than $40, they will save $5!

Here's the best D3:

[link to www.iherb.com]
 Quoting: Super Bowl Dave


yep,

5000 iu per day, for 2 years now. feels great.
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10/13/2012 09:51 AM
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Can pregnant women take it?
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You should be taking at least 10,000 IU daily, even after you deliver as it will secrete in your milk & will help boost the immunity of your baby.
 Quoting: mopar28m


^^^This makes me somewhat uneasy. Babies concentrate nutrients because they're so tiny. Agressive supplementation seems very unwise whether in utero or if breastfeeding afterwards.
There is good reason prenatal vites are quite weak seeming for a pregnant mother, that is because they can damage development, especially containing Iron or ferrous fumerate you can kill a baby with adult supplements!
No Kidding!scared
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no need to generalize. You could get huge amounts of natural vid d from the sun and the baby will be more healthy. As for the supplements vit d3 can be dangerous taken in huge amounts only because of the other substances they use in the capsule. like calcium.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1546575


Why the redundancy? Of course the sun. I was responding to a specific comment and high dose effects on infants pre and post birth.
Mothers need the info from somewhere.
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I've been taking D3 for years. I currently take 8,000iu a day. Last blood test showed 49. One of the nurses who was taking my information last dr. visit (2 months ago) saw my list of supplements and said "What is vitamin D3?" She's in the medical profession and didn't know what it was. Reminds me of 10 years ago Dr. saw my supplement list and asked me "Why are you taking Fish Oil??!" That was before it became mainstream to take it.
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The sun is the absolute best source for D. I get anywhere from 1-4 hrs. a day (Florida) and at 68 never sick, play tennis 6-7 days a week and feel better than in my 30's.I never go to doctors and am on no drugs for 20 plus years. The sun is your best source for health, even animals know this, they lay in morning sun often.
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ok that was not me but that is truth
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The sun is the absolute best source for D. I get anywhere from 1-4 hrs. a day (Florida) and at 68 never sick, play tennis 6-7 days a week and feel better than in my 30's.I never go to doctors and am on no drugs for 20 plus years. The sun is your best source for health, even animals know this, they lay in morning sun often.


ok that was not me but that is truth
saved me from sating it
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One discrepancy flyover here is D3 & Iodine from fish, kelp and even sea salt which is uncontaminated and tested as being so.
Virtually every nutrient we pull from the oceans and seas routinely up until the recent past could merit a level of trust from certain regions, but no more.
..and we all know the drill as to why.

Maybe a good idea to look squarely at this, you know, "et the upper hand before it gets you" as my scorpio father used to say. :D
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Did you guys know one of the things chemtrails do its block vit D from sun? Im taking 10000 ius per day but my level was 16 the last time it was checked. Hopefuly this will help with autoimmunity.
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Did you guys know one of the things chemtrails do its block vit D from sun? Im taking 10000 ius per day but my level was 16 the last time it was checked. Hopefuly this will help with autoimmunity.

I still enjoy my sun baths
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[youtube] [link to www.youtube.com]

I also recommend watching the video from Dr. Mercola previously mentioned by an AC.
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Vitamin D increases the calcium absorption. The key then is to take Magnesium 500mg every day.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12698388


I'm glad someone mentioned this right away, we had a great long thread on Vitamin D here some time back and this issue of making sure you get plenty of magnesium came up, it's a really good point.

People get too much calcium as it is, and not enough magnesium. Taking Vitamin D can push the imbalance higher.

Magnesium is critical and we get very little from our food. A lot of supplement forms are poorly utilized. Don't take magnesium oxide, a common, cheap one, one to avoid. I have taken magnesium glycinate and recently magnesium chloride which comes in a liquid form.
 Quoting: Vision Thing


Read somewhere once that long term use of the d3 tablets that contain the calcium based stuff will clog the heart up. Any truth in that ?
 Quoting: Sword of mercy


That's why people suggest vitamin K2. As I read somewhere "it keeps the calcium where it's supposed to be (in the bones) and not where it's not supposed to be (in the arteries)".
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Out of curiosity but has anyone had their teeth start hurting after taking vitamin d for 2-3 weeks consistently. I know someone who had to stop it because their teeth became sensitive on vitamin d.
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I take 25,000 IU a day and never get sick. I'm also 44 years old and have more energy than when I was in my twenties
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Magnesium is best absorbed by SPRAYING on the SKIN !!!! Get the liquid elemental Mg in health food store and dilute it to make a spray. Spray your body with it.
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There are tanning beds available for those who have the money and do not want to take pills.


[link to tanningbeds.mercola.com]


[link to articles.mercola.com]



You would want to use the ones with "electronic ballast" rather than "magnetic ballasts."


Most tanning parlors have beds with magnetic ballasts.



I am no expert on it.......but it is another option to consider during the winter months.
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Out of curiosity but has anyone had their teeth start hurting after taking vitamin d for 2-3 weeks consistently. I know someone who had to stop it because their teeth became sensitive on vitamin d.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24582752


Maybe these two factors are just coincidental and not related. Causes for sensitive teeth take years to develop, gingivitis becoming periodontal..those little exposed gumline upper root honeycombs lead to nerve endings waiting to scream. Teeth/gums respond to direct application of CoQ10. Systemic route is rarely efficient.
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About 80 to 90 percent of folks are also deficient in magnesium and there is a connection between magnesium and Vit D3.

Here is a snippet from the article...but there is more, so read the whole thing.

"Magnesium and vitamin D

Magnesium has been found to influence the body’s utilization of vitamin D in the following ways: Magnesium activates cellular enzymatic activity. In fact, all the enzymes that metabolize vitamin D require it. 3 4 Low magnesium has been shown to alter, by way of decreasing, production of vitamin D’s active form, 1,25(OH)2D (calcitriol). 5

Magnesium is needed to exert positive influence over the human genome and may be involved in the genetic actions of vitamin D. Magnesium possibly has a role in vitamin D’s effect on the immune system. 6

Animal studies have shown magnesium is also necessary for vitamin D’s beneficial actions on bone."

[link to www.vitamindcouncil.org]
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With a health condition that affects bone & joint health, numerous dexa scans, and a couple of autoimmune disorders, even the 8000 IU of Vitamin D3 I take a day doesn't get absorbed due to Celiac.
 Quoting: Fraeguile


There is a direct connection between Magnesium and VitD3. Celiac patients are low in magnesium...so you might want to take a look at this article, and supplement with magnesium. Sounds like it would help. It's important to always look deeper, because traditional allopathic approach never does.

[link to www.vitamindcouncil.org]
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*logging under,*

awesome info.

bump
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To the AC with MS and to Fraeguile,
There is research out there that suggests you should NOT be taking Vit.D if you have an autoimmune disease! Please google the "Marshall Protocol". My son has a Vit.D3 level of 10 and Hashimotos. He was told by an endocrinologist to stay away from this vitamin. I believe the theory is that it revs up the immune system and by doing so it can exacerbate the immune attacks. I honestly don't know what to believe, but you may want to check it out.
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I take that from reading through here i may up my dose every morning.

I also take Niacin and Vitamin C every morning too

For those of you who haven't watched "Food Matters" and "Forks over Knives" it's really worth checking out
 Quoting: mikedoall


I'll second these movie recommendations. Especially if you have or know someone with cancer.

It's threads like this that make this forum so amazing!!!
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I read a few posts here regarding D3. What are the benefits and how many IU should I take?
 Quoting: ***ClappaGuy***


Until recently, I could buy 10k IU gelcaps at Costco or SAMs Club. I did stock up, and have enough for a few months. I take 50k IU daily.

The best I can find now are 5k IU, so I'll just have to suck it up and take more pills than before. Not giving up the Vitamin D-3.
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Magnesium is best absorbed by SPRAYING on the SKIN !!!! Get the liquid elemental Mg in health food store and dilute it to make a spray. Spray your body with it.
 Quoting: Hi 24247817

calcium and magnesium is the hardest thing for your body to absorb so instead....

try spraying calcium and magnesium into your mouth instead and you will absorb 90% right into the blood stream through the inside lining of your mouth, COMPLETELY by-passing the GI tract.

pure and organic and these pills you people are taking are only 10% absorbed at the most and a waste of money.

pour a little vinigar in a glass and then put one of your pills in there and see how long it takes to break down.

if it takes more than 15 or 20 minutes you are getting very little benefit and why do you think your urine changes colors?

that is the excess nutrients that your body cannot absorb.

the graph at this link is listed in the PDR, Physicians Desk Reference, which as we all know is the bible of the medical profession.

these sprays are more absorbed than a shot of B-12 in the ass, which is only 80% absorbed because you lose 20% in the muscle.

only way you can do better is with an IV....

why do you think they put nitro in a spray container that all para-medics carry with them?

because 30 seconds is much quicker to the heart than a tablet under the tongue at 4 or 5 minutes.

this is the technology of the future, a paradigm shift, and they are working on putting insulin in spray containers so there would be no more needles for diabetics.

[link to www.vitamist.com]

Last Edited by thetrickybigguy on 10/14/2012 07:51 AM
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Life is about choices, you get to make them each and every day of your life. ~

Capitalization is the difference between helping your Uncle Jack off a horse and helping your uncle jack off a horse.~

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I read a few posts here regarding D3. What are the benefits and how many IU should I take?
 Quoting: ***ClappaGuy***


Until recently, I could buy 10k IU gelcaps at Costco or SAMs Club. I did stock up, and have enough for a few months. I take 50k IU daily.

The best I can find now are 5k IU, so I'll just have to suck it up and take more pills than before. Not giving up the Vitamin D-3.
 Quoting: Curly Sue 21550178


you don't have to 'suck it up' and take more pills...

check out the post above.
Falling down is a part of life, getting back up is living. ~

Life is about choices, you get to make them each and every day of your life. ~

Capitalization is the difference between helping your Uncle Jack off a horse and helping your uncle jack off a horse.~

Only in America... do we use the word 'politics' to describe the process so well: 'Poli' in Latin meaning 'many' and 'tics' meaning 'bloodsucking creatures'.~

“When a government is dependent for money upon the bankers, they and not the government leaders control the nation. This is because the hand that gives is above the hand that takes. Financiers are without patriotism and without decency.”
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Anyone know how vitamin d3 affects body fat? Does it reduce body fat at all? I have read that d3 deficiency is linked to obesity and childhood obesity. Makes sense since kids no longer play outside in the sun choosing the couch/video game route instead. I'm wondering if anyone has noticed fat reduction since supplementing...
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Anyone know how vitamin d3 affects body fat? Does it reduce body fat at all? I have read that d3 deficiency is linked to obesity and childhood obesity. Makes sense since kids no longer play outside in the sun choosing the couch/video game route instead. I'm wondering if anyone has noticed fat reduction since supplementing...
 Quoting: ChickSlap


My guess would be that it helps overall in the body being able to regulate the metabolism better. I had the opposite problem, being too skinny. Since I started to supplement along with eating more healthy, I've added the meat on my bones that was missing. So I would believe the opposite would be true too.

Good question!
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Per my holistic doc, 50,000 IU x 3 days, then 5,000 IU daily. She also advised to increase to the max 3 day dose for illness. Hope this helps.
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I take 1000-2000 iu per day, have for a long time, am in good health, don't get the "winter blues" anymore.
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Vit D3 is AWESOME!!.... I've been wanting to post a new thread on Vit D3 and other essentials to really open people eyes so look out for it guys! banana

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