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So happy for you, Salt. So happy you didn't smoke.

Tomorrow you wake-up with 13 and the knowledge that you were bombarded, slammed, and battered and still remained steadfast. Still stood tall. Committed. Not over it, around it, or under it. You went straight through it.
With gratitude. With continued hope. With the assurance that nothing, absolutely nothing, can rock your foundation of truth.

So, so, happy for you, Salt.

Our grateful hearts will never fail us.
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15 days!

Computer gave up the ghost - haven't been around as much.

My heart is so deeply and profoundly touched when I come here and read this thread. The compassion, love, caring, respect, dignity, and camaraderie shared on this thread means so very much to me in a world that seems cold and indifferent.

Congratulations to those who continue to commit to a higher love of themselves and their bodies. Good luck to those considering letting go of a habit which promises only death and sufferation in the the end...

Blessed love.

A sentimental soulJAH.

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So happy for you, Salt. So happy you didn't smoke.

Tomorrow you wake-up with 13 and the knowledge that you were bombarded, slammed, and battered and still remained steadfast. Still stood tall. Committed. Not over it, around it, or under it. You went straight through it.
With gratitude. With continued hope. With the assurance that nothing, absolutely nothing, can rock your foundation of truth.

So, so, happy for you, Salt.

Our grateful hearts will never fail us.
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So happy for you, Salt. So happy you didn't smoke.

Tomorrow you wake-up with 13 and the knowledge that you were bombarded, slammed, and battered and still remained steadfast. Still stood tall. Committed. Not over it, around it, or under it. You went straight through it.
With gratitude. With continued hope. With the assurance that nothing, absolutely nothing, can rock your foundation of truth.

So, so, happy for you, Salt.

Our grateful hearts will never fail us.
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hf
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Yay, you didn't succumb either!!!

These freaking math threads though...tantrum
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15 days!

Computer gave up the ghost - haven't been around as much.

My heart is so deeply and profoundly touched when I come here and read this thread. The compassion, love, caring, respect, dignity, and camaraderie shared on this thread means so very much to me in a world that seems cold and indifferent.

Congratulations to those who continue to commit to a higher love of themselves and their bodies. Good luck to those considering letting go of a habit which promises only death and sufferation in the the end...

Blessed love.

A sentimental soulJAH.

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Thanks so much. Few threads on GLP are of real substance, we are proud this one has evolved into a true, meaningful thread. I am so thankful for other posters have joined and are now a force for support that cannot be surpassed anywhere in GLP land. No matter who comes here they are greeted by someone here who cares. By myself I can not always be available, but know one of them will. Success is yours my friend, hold to the ones here that have gladly given you support. Please come back often to help others, for that is the way this thread succeeds an thrives. Many have quit, many more will. Long live this thread of hope. hfhfhfhfhf DF
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Yes!

Congrats anon!


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37 days.

You are the man Desert Fox!
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Hang in there. It takes time to break a habit. Don't beat yourself up if you weaken, but if you weaken, smoke something organic without additives in a tiny amount. Then stop and renew your commitment to ending this desire.

If you feel weak, like you're going to mess up, then chew rubber bands. If you do end up smoking after chewing rubber bands, they form a coating in your mouth and the tobacco will make you "hurl". It's aversion therapy. You'll get so nauseated that you'll not smoke again for a long time.

Every single day that you don't smoke, your lungs are recovering from this:


and getting pinker as the coated tobacco is slowly wicked away by little cilia waving and expeling it in your cough. It's why you might could cough up brown gunk.

Then your sense of smell gets better. You can breathe deeper. You can smell your Honey in the next room, her sweet scent, her allure so evident, and parts of you are alive again.

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Now, is that the "outside" of the lungs? They wouldn't be black like that on the outside would they?

Just wondering...

The horror. The horror.
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Now, is that the "outside" of the lungs? They wouldn't be black like that on the outside would they?

Just wondering...

The horror. The horror.
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The black is on the outside because you smoked so much you penetrated the tissue.

Most people think that the lungs do the work by opening themselves like a muscle. In reality, the diaphragm is a flexible thick membrane at the base of the lungs and just above the stomach (the esophagus snakes through the diaphragm). Anyway, as the diaphragm flexs, it draws on the closed chamber of the space around the lungs, and hence they empand with air as you gasp a breath. The pressure outside the lung rushs inward and expands the lung within the pleura.

This is why, if you get a penetrating wound to the chest, the hole will end up collapsing the lung on that side, and they have to put in a chest tube. The wound didn't penetrate the lung, it penetrated the chest wall and now theres an in-rush of the atmospheric pressure (14.7 psi) to the lung.

A bit of lung physiology there, but all of that results in some smoke penetrating the lung tissue if you keep smoking too long.




You can get a spontaneous pneumothorax (collapsed lung) from smoking. The lung collapses like a scrunched up balloon, and then sharp pain occurs for the lung should be inflated.

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17 days for me banana2
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If you go to the last minute of this video, you'll see that in one day of smoke cessation, you immediately get a benefit. In a year, it's a significant benefit. In five years, it's such a benefit that you reverse the damage in most cases depends upon the intensity( i.e. how many in one sitting) and the duration (how long overall you smoked). In essence your lung is like a non-smoker's. Longer cessation 5+ years, and you start to normalize completely.


Hint: Don't quit with the goal of going a year. Quit to last until tomorrow, then the next tomorrow. Doing it that way is less daunting. One day at a time to use a hackneyed phrase.

If you have lung trouble and you quit smoking, then chances are you have a spirometer or simply they told you a device that measures lung capacity. You blow into it as hard as you can and deflect the needle. You can do this simply with a balloon. A lot of people who smoke can't blow up a balloon easily. Try and see. Now a month later, try to blow one up. Slowly but surely your lung will heal and you WILL BE ABLE TO DO IT.


You can also blow into a tube placed into a open flask of water and try to blow as much of the water out. Then do it in a month. Each time look at the amount of fluid that got expelled.


In a collapase of society, a family could test their loved one's lung capacity in these simple ways to see if altering things helped or hurt them as they tried to heal them.

Free Divers will hold their breath for longer and longer periods and blow hard to expel as much as possible. They'll take great short breaths and then one last gasp to pump up the air in their lungs. Doing something similar will increase your lung capacity because your lungs see the stretch of tissue as it expands and then, "Hey, I need to allocate more growth to my lungs, so send more nutrients there, more blood, remove more cellular damage, etc" That's kind of like exercising a muscle.

If a smoker does that slowly and methodically, then they'll accelerate healing. Don't do it fast! You'll hyperventilate and throw off the gas mixture from too much air. If you mess up and hyperventilate, breathe in and out in a paper bag, and the carbon dioxide will reduce the hyperventilation.

Moderation is needed in your exercise. The more you move around, the more your body sees a need to allocate more resources to the lungs.

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Positive Visualization

Okay you're doing the program
1. Cessation
2. Aversion Therapy
3. Focusing on one day cessation at a time
4. Measuring lung capacity
5. Breathing exercises in and out to increase lung capacity

Now you do creative visualization
6. While you watch lung videos, imagine that your cilia, the hair-like oscillating waves inside your lungs tubes (brochi) are waving away the tobaco soot. They're sweeping it out and allowing you to breath easier. The lungs are making new mucus every 20 minutes or so, and this cilia and fresh mucus is cleaning the "rooms" (lobes) of the lungs.

Imagine your lungs getting healthy blood to the lungs and carrying away the junk that's there. They're cleaning house.

We don't know why creative visualization works. We just know that people who deliberately spend time doing it, even if they think it's silly, that it accelerates healing.

If you think about it, probably a Native American shaman would teach his patient to do something very similarly. We just gradually stopped doing things like that, and decided healthcare was about taking a pill.

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7. Percussive Therapy

The mucus in a smoker's lungs is full of soot. The mucus and cilia have a very tough job. There may be mucus plugs inside. They happen when there's so much inflammation, that white blood cells migrate to the inflammation, and they attack the soot as invaders and then die.

This happens in cystic fibrosis, influenza, lots of respiratory disease. A pulmonary tech would make cupped hands, and tap upon the shoulders, back, and chest of the patient, and this mechanically losens mucus plugs.

Anyone can do it. The patient's family members are taught this. It would be too expensive to have the pulmonary tech come in.

The patient lies in a slightly declined position and that helps the mucus plug move toward the mouth. Usually the plug will come up, reminiscent of "workin' up a good burp" from a baby after feeding them.


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Thank you DBA. That was very informative. Very nice to have someone here who can coach with knowledge. It's amazing how quickly the lungs recover if caught in time though isn't it!

I'm still horrified to think that would be the outside of the lung but apparently so?! And the sad deeply disturbing decrepid shallow inhalation of those black unhappy lungs... The image stays with me. Yikes.

Every day I breathe a little deeper. I make a point of smelling the season... even winter. It has a clarity of scent and freshness that must heal. Provided there's no car exhaust going by of course. :)

How's everyone doing?
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Thank you DBA. That was very informative. Very nice to have someone here who can coach with knowledge. It's amazing how quickly the lungs recover if caught in time though isn't it!

I'm still horrified to think that would be the outside of the lung but apparently so?! And the sad deeply disturbing decrepid shallow inhalation of those black unhappy lungs... The image stays with me. Yikes.

Every day I breathe a little deeper. I make a point of smelling the season... even winter. It has a clarity of scent and freshness that must heal. Provided there's no car exhaust going by of course. :)

How's everyone doing?
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If y'all can hang in there, quit one day at a time, just one more day, and do the things I recommend, then slowly but surely (Don't call me Shirley!), y'all will get better. It's your body naturally going, "Well! About time! Alright, let's get cleaning again. Let's fix some of this stuff that's busted up." Seriously the body want to heal, but you kept interfering with the mucus and coating it, so it inhibited healing. Make sense?

Try to do something like have more sex, to replace the loss of smoking. You need a reward. That's important because otherwise your mind sees it as a subtraction from pleasure.

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how do you spell decrepid? decrepit?
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how do you spell decrepid? decrepit?
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Wow. That was great. Thanks for taking the time to post and pass all that on, BNA. Very generous of you.

Of course, at this point (40 some days clean), I can't take much in.

I read everything you posted, but I'll have to keep coming back to it as I get clearer. That said, I did pick-up a few tips and, as I write, I'm chewing rubber bands, picturing my cillia as chimney sweeps - "chim chimery, chim chim cha roo" - ala Dick Van Dyke and "Mary Poppins," and having "reward" sex with strangers as they beat me, with cupped hands, (kind of kinky, but I like it) on my back. This quit smoking shit is awesome!

Again, thanks for your thoughtfulness in posting that valuable information. Best to you.
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Two weeks for me!


wooooooooooooo hooooooooooooooooooooooo [cough] oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
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As much as I appreciate your effort DBA - just glancing at the photos and some of the information you have posted is very stressful.

I find the vibe of "information" and with the accent of focus on pain and suffering to be incredibly stressful.

So thanks, but I prefer the direction of gentle compassion and encouragement from fellow quitters.

oneLOVEsoulJAH
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Have to agree with you, OneLove, too much for me to take in. Prefer to focus on the healing heart and good vibes. Pictures of fucked-up lungs just make me want to smoke (insane, but insanity seems to be the nature and irrational pulse of the addicion beast).

I hanging my hat on the power of love over science in this endeavor (I'll be a flat-earther if it keeps me smoke-free and tranquil in these early days).

Peace to all.
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Salt, that is a major, over the fence and into the parking lot, homerun.

Congratulations. Much to be proud of.
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Salt, that is a major, over the fence and into the parking lot, homerun.

Congratulations. Much to be proud of.
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"The only religion that God the Father accepts as pure and faultless is this: to look after orphans and widows in their distress and to keep oneself from being ensnared by the world." --James 1:27
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BcMax, you're a riot you know. Gifted with gab. Typically irish?

Souldyah, you are doing so so well!

How are you doing Baroness?

Great going Salt!

I've on the second level of patch now for a bit and am doing fine. Forgetting to put it on sometimes. I'm looking forward to summer... it's hard to know how much better you feel when you're rushing about in below zero temperatures trying to remain sane when there is no sun to speak of.

Spoke to an ex-smoker today who said it took her up to a year to forget all about smoking. At that point she said she couldn't even tell you if the person she was with had smoked or not, it stopped bothering her that much. So it will arrive for us all. We just have to hang in there. We have to stay quit. Ain't no other choice.

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Today and for the last few days, I have been battling anxiety and minor depression, I haven't been working much so that could definitly be a reason, but mayhap it is the body finally giving up the struggle to get me smoking again...doan know.

I do know that smoking weed doesn't help with he anxiety so for today I am going to refrain from puffing and see what happens with that. I have quit before and I know it aint gonna be nothing like quitting the death sticks.

Last summer I had been having what felt like athsma(spelling) attacks which I attributed to nothing more than allergies (being a smoker, it's never the cigs, I know)now I know better as they are still occuring regularly, more regularly than I would like actually.

Let me explan and mayhap someone will chime in on what the possible trouble is.

One minute I feel fine, lungs feel clear, breathing fine and then in an instant, it feels like my lungs have filled up with mucus and I feel like I have the flu. Roughly a minute later, the lungs feel clear and everything feels back to normal.

As I wrote the last paragraph, felt fine, finished it and now feel full again.

When these little lung issues occur, I'm not short of breath, I don't get winded while walking uphill even when it is occuring and I don't feel that my lung capacity is effected....... it just feels.....well, bad and I don't like it

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Jeez CHL, I don't know. It sounds like it could be allergies maybe. Do you hold yourself differently maybe? Maybe that feeling comes when you stoop over and all your fluids move somewhere that makes you notice? Even I think that was a stupid possibility so ignore it. Hopefully somebody else has a better idea but you know the grill eh... see your doctor...

Don't let anything get you off track. I know that low-level depression thing. It's a dangerous little place where "that nasty little nicotine voice" can seem perfectly logical. It isn't though. It's waiting for you to weaken. Little demon that it is.

You're going to be fine. I know you will be. You are stronger than you know.

I don't smoke weed and never really did because it doesn't do anything for me so I don't know how stopping it can affect you. Do you go through withdrawals?
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Well, you're one of the rocks on this thread, CHL. I take what you write seriously.

I can relate to the urge coming as you get more clean time under your belt. When we were smoking, the beast didn't have to work; it owned us. The first few weeks, the monster seemed to lay low because it knew I was full on point and hyper-vigilant (locked and loaded with the cranberry juice, water, Carr, etc.). A little more time passed and I began to have some really nice comfortable days. On some of these days, I rarely even thought of a smoke and that's when the beast was gathering steam and preparing for it's subtle (and sometimes glaring) assaults. Remember, brother CHL, we're dealing with an addiction that will do anything to try and kill us. Each day we're smoke-free, that monster is doing push-ups waiting for the moment we're vulnerable (whether it be we're happy, stressed, concerned about health issues, money, any fucking thing) to make it's move and pounce. It's the insidious and cunning nature of addiction.

But we're bigger than the addiction, CHL, and I've witnessed your clear-eyed focus and committment to putting down the beast.

Regarding the physical, why not check it out? I've had this cough/flu thing for three weeks now (and the symptoms almost mirror those you wrote of - clear and then blocked) and there have been times I've said, "Damn, I never had this shit when I smoked." If addiction is indeed a disease then I have a disease (nicotine addiction) that tells me I don't have a disease (nicotine addiction), but then tells me I have another disease (the cough/flu etc.) so I better smoke until I figure it out. The cyclical logic of insanity.

Again, the beast will use anything to get me back in chains.

You know all this, CHL (and good, well-considered advice, from Grumps) and just make a decision not to smoke today and make the same decision tomorrow. Give yourself a little more time to make a clear decision based on you and your truth. If the physical stuff continues, and makes you uncomfortable, check it out.

Even then, if your ass falls off, don't smoke.

Pulling for you, CHL.

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