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on chapter 7 of the book.

i get it. i totally get it...
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I started smoking when I was around thirteen years old, so I've smoked for about twelve years.

I've never really tried seriously quitting until 'bout six months back. Every so often, when I lay down at night and am trying to go to sleep, it feels like I'm not breathing right. It's not major, breathing kind of feels like it would if you ran up the stairs or something. It feels normal breath doesn't seem to supply the oxygen I need, like my lungs ability to process is diminished quite a bit. I'm 25, not sick, have no health issues, certainly not overweight (under actually) or any of the other usual suspects, so there's no other explanation for the breathing issue.

To quit, I've been using electronic cigarettes. They help a lot, even though it's expensive as hell, a bit more than real cigarettes. The longest I've made it has been..nearly two months. The only reason I've gone back to real cigarettes has been because my shipment of e-cig refills were delayed several days-week(s) and I had nothing to puff on. They're back-ordered all the friggin' time.

So, I'm giving quitting another shot. After about a couple days of no cigarettes, the breathing issue starts subside thankfully and I'm about four days smoke-free this time. I can't think of a worse thing then having to live your life not being able to breathe, and this stuff has really drove the idea home. Ain't gonna be like my great-grandfather, forced to sleep sitting up and dying with only one half of one lung left due to smoking-related lung cancer and emphysema.

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Just saw Salt's post (sorry we crossed). I agree with Salt's take on it, Panama. All is well.

Salt, love your "I get it." It's like a light bulb popping. Full of promise.

Happy for you and know, without a shred of doubt, you are a non-smoker. It's bank and a bet I'd take any day. Go on with your bad self.
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amen
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I started smoking when I was around thirteen years old, so I've smoked for about twelve years.

I've never really tried seriously quitting until 'bout six months back. Every so often, when I lay down at night and am trying to go to sleep, it feels like I'm not breathing right. It's not major, breathing kind of feels like it would if you ran up the stairs or something. It feels normal breath doesn't seem to supply the oxygen I need, like my lungs ability to process is diminished quite a bit. I'm 25, not sick, have no health issues, certainly not overweight (under actually) or any of the other usual suspects, so there's no other explanation for the breathing issue.

To quit, I've been using electronic cigarettes. They help a lot, even though it's expensive as hell, a bit more than real cigarettes. The longest I've made it has been..nearly two months. The only reason I've gone back to real cigarettes has been because my shipment of e-cig refills were delayed several days-week(s) and I had nothing to puff on. They're back-ordered all the friggin' time.

So, I'm giving quitting another shot. After about a couple days of no cigarettes, the breathing issue starts subside thankfully and I'm about four days smoke-free this time. I can't think of a worse thing then having to live your life not being able to breathe, and this stuff has really drove the idea home. Ain't gonna be like my great-grandfather, forced to sleep sitting up and dying with only one half of one lung left due to smoking-related lung cancer and emphysema.
 Quoting: KonspiracyKitty

I am so glad you are quitting. Breathing was my big motivator, tired of feeling like I wasn't getting enough oxygen. Believe me when I say, it gets much worse the longer you smoke, now is the time to stop and I pray it works for you. Be strong and hang with us here, we have been there, done that. Let me know how it goes. hf DF
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Day 100 and I am doing good. Still get an urge here and there but fight on through them. Having a lot of bad things go on in your life sure is a great test of will power, but in the end one must keep clinging to the fresh air that we are allowed to enjoy by not smoking. Life for me would have been totally different if I never smoked, all the bad decisions that I made after the first one helped ruin my chances of having a better life. But now I am taking back what I gave away for so long, and it feels good, right in fact. Not smoking has given me more time with the family. Congrats and happy new year to all quitters and want to be quitters!
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22/11

I know CHL, you're not grumpy. I am. :)

amazing book eh Salt?

There you are Mac! Don't scare me like that.

Everyone have a peaceful day. It is a new day. There is fresh air out there apparently. We can go and have it for free.
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Morning, Grumpy (so this is what the world looks like at your normal waking hour). Happy New Year. Hope this a wonderful year for you and yours. Glad to have come (and continue) to know you.

Can't sleep on this end. Nothing major, just can't sleep. Spent two minutes responding to a thread where the OP stated he went to a drag party and described himself as "looking prettier than his girlfriend." All is vanity, I guess. Mildly amusing, but I'm tired and running on fumes (but no smoke). Going to try and take it down to see if I can sleep, but wanted to start the day with a good morning wish to you.

Speak with you later, Grumps.
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okay guys, i need help. i have been slowly going down in total cigarettes per day. this was all for leading up to this day. I want to be ab le to go to work tomorrow and say, 'i havent smoked all year'. and all though it is not a big deal tomorrow, it will be later on.

i have fallen off the limit a few times but most of those times have been in the last week.

i want to smoke SO FREAKIN BAD!!!

I keep drinking water everytime i want one but I really want one. i need an intervention ASAP!!!
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okay guys, i need help. i have been slowly going down in total cigarettes per day. this was all for leading up to this day. I want to be ab le to go to work tomorrow and say, 'i havent smoked all year'. and all though it is not a big deal tomorrow, it will be later on.

i have fallen off the limit a few times but most of those times have been in the last week.

i want to smoke SO FREAKIN BAD!!!

I keep drinking water everytime i want one but I really want one. i need an intervention ASAP!!!
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read that book that was linked a page or so ago.
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Yes. Read that book. Also, you need something sweet like cranberry juice. Orange juice if you don't have that. Just to bring up your blood sugar. I was addicted to licorice for awhile. I don't recommend it. It's bad for you. But it got me over the worst part.

Just one more hour. One more day.

Really read that book.

Read stuff here too: whyquit.com

I read there constantly. I can even quote statistics. In 90 days I'll have 30% more lung capacity. That's what I'm shooting for now.

Oh Mac. Sleep Sleep Sleep Perchance to Dream.
Smoking is such a sweet sweet sorrow.

:)

Salt. Isn't that book just something else! Where was it when I've tried all these years?
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Ricky... here is something to hold on to. Think of your little lung cilia waving about in the fresh air of your breath! :)

Within ...

• 20 minutes

Your blood pressure, pulse rate and the temperature of your hands and feet have returned to normal.

• 8 hours
Remaining nicotine in your bloodstream will have fallen to 6.25% of normal peak daily levels, a 93.25% reduction.

• 12 hours
Your blood oxygen level will have increased to normal and carbon monoxide levels will have dropped to normal.

• 24 hours
Anxieties have peaked in intensity and within two weeks should return to near pre-cessation levels.

• 48 hours
Damaged nerve endings have started to regrow and your sense of smell and taste are beginning to return to normal. Cessation anger and irritability will have peaked.

• 72 hours
Your entire body will test 100% nicotine-free and over 90% of all nicotine metabolites (the chemicals it breaks down into) will now have passed from your body via your urine. Symptoms of chemical withdrawal have peaked in intensity, including restlessness. The number of cue induced crave episodes experienced during any quitting day will peak for the "average" ex-user. Lung bronchial tubes leading to air sacs (alveoli) are beginning to relax in recovering smokers. Breathing is becoming easier and the lung's functional abilities are starting to increase.

• 5 - 8 days
The "average" ex-smoker will encounter an "average" of three cue induced crave episodes per day. Although we may not be "average" and although serious cessation time distortion can make minutes feel like hours, it is unlikely that any single episode will last longer than 3 minutes. Keep a clock handy and time them.

• 10 days
10 days - The "average ex-user is down to encountering less than two crave episodes per day, each less than 3 minutes.

• 10 days to 2 weeks
Recovery has likely progressed to the point where your addiction is no longer doing the talking. Blood circulation in your gums and teeth are now similar to that of a non-user.

• 2 to 4 weeks
Cessation related anger, anxiety, difficulty concentrating, impatience, insomnia, restlessness and depression have ended. If still experiencing any of these symptoms get seen and evaluated by your physician.
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I think I should post this link every day for the new quitters........

Read it, IT WORKS!

[link to media.wix.com]

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I think I should post this link erery day for the new quitters........

Read it, IT WORKS!

[link to media.wix.com]
 Quoting: CHL2T


hf
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It's more humane this way ya know, or burn on totem pole. Choice is yours.
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If you go through Raleigh Durham, NC where the factories are all you smell is chocolate. This is why cigarettes have smelled so funny for years. Smoked chocolate is worse than crack. Do not trust rolled tobacco either. Even ‘American Spirit’ is doctored. The only thing they can’t mess with is pipe tobacco. This is because of the smell.
Male or female: smoke corn cob pipe for 90 days before you quite the nicotine. Don’t try to kick both.
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okay guys, i need help. i have been slowly going down in total cigarettes per day. this was all for leading up to this day. I want to be ab le to go to work tomorrow and say, 'i havent smoked all year'. and all though it is not a big deal tomorrow, it will be later on.

i have fallen off the limit a few times but most of those times have been in the last week.

i want to smoke SO FREAKIN BAD!!!

I keep drinking water everytime i want one but I really want one. i need an intervention ASAP!!!
 Quoting: Ricky Retardo

Welcome to my thread. The best tool we all have when quitting is mindset. Be determined to quit before trying, because 90% of the addiction is in the mind in my opinion. Stay busy, drink juices, or anything to keep the mind off of smoking. As posted above, the first few days are your strongest enemy. Good luck, you can do it, it can be done, just look at us who have done it and are here to help you do it too. hf DF
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CHL... I agree. You gotta post that everyday.

Fox... You are amazing at knowing what to say at exactly the right time. You have instinctual wisdom about people I think.
I'm trying to not be much of an advisor because I really don't know much and the more I know the less I know. I fear doing more harm than good in that department. I mean licorice isn't really a helpful suggestion... lol

:)
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They put chocolate in cigarettes???!!!!!

Jeez
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I have to quit smoking like yesterday, last year, whatever.

I now have COPD and taking all kinds of meds.

TIRED of this but the addiction is difficult esp when I have smoked menthol to boot.

I need help to quit. I am not a young person and have no support group.

I want to breath again or at least be able to walk on a regular basis and have time for my grandkids.

I know there is no cure for COPD, I just want to not further damage myself.
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48 hours now. Still suffering cravings although can breathe better.
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CHL... I agree. You gotta post that everyday.

Fox... You are amazing at knowing what to say at exactly the right time. You have instinctual wisdom about people I think.
I'm trying to not be much of an advisor because I really don't know much and the more I know the less I know. I fear doing more harm than good in that department. I mean licorice isn't really a helpful suggestion... lol

:)
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Thanks, but please don't ever think your experiences are not going to help others. Licorice worked for you, and could very well work for others. For many cranberry juice works, others nicotine gum, others prayer, ect, ect, so any input from quitters is a great gift to this thread with its stated goal of supporting others. You are one of my trusted disciples keeping this thread active and bringing in others wanting to quit, I am grateful to all who are helping keep my dream alive. hf DF
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Thank you GLP for the forum. It helps to read about others any get encouragement to quit. I started 10 years ago when my 7 year old was in hospital for emergency surgery and ended up in ICU. I didn't care about my health I just was trying to cope. Now I'm jonesing but holding steady. Wanted to buy some last night but didn't. I made it to 48 hours. Drank a whole bottle of champagne though. That really helped.
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I have to quit smoking like yesterday, last year, whatever.

I now have COPD and taking all kinds of meds.

TIRED of this but the addiction is difficult esp when I have smoked menthol to boot.

I need help to quit. I am not a young person and have no support group.

I want to breath again or at least be able to walk on a regular basis and have time for my grandkids.

I know there is no cure for COPD, I just want to not further damage myself.
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You are exactly in my shoes, not young here either, young grandkids, taking meds, COPD, and an addict to nicotine. I will always be an addict, but I have quit smoking for the reasons you stated above, to live and better enjoy life. You must stop now, in two weeks, even with COPD, you will be amazed at the improvement, and I want you to come back here and tell me I was right. Follow the advice that has been given in this thread, there are some super ones, and there are super supporters here as you will find out. Please do this, we are with you. hf DF
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Thank you GLP for the forum. It helps to read about others any get encouragement to quit. I started 10 years ago when my 7 year old was in hospital for emergency surgery and ended up in ICU. I didn't care about my health I just was trying to cope. Now I'm jonesing but holding steady. Wanted to buy some last night but didn't. I made it to 48 hours. Drank a whole bottle of champagne though. That really helped.
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hfhfhf DF
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Thanks Fox. :)

Ruser. Man oh man you're doing fine! One more day and it will improve. Did we say cranberry juice? Silly us! We meant champagne!!! Of course that's what we meant! Whatever gets you through the dark night of nicotine addiction eh! :)

One more day Ruser. Just one more and you'll start feeling better.

Anon... You can do this. If I, who scrounged around in old flower pots for a butt after practically dismantling the entire car and its ashtray looking for one, if I can quit for 22 days then you can too. At one point I smoked 3 packs a day. Then they stopped us being able to smoke when we worked so I smoked 1 and a half packs a day. I quit once in 30 years for 2 years. I'm a hardcore nicotine addict. If I can quit now then you can quit. You can do it.
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e-cigs!!!!!




Get you 2 ego twists, a charger, plus enough cartomizers/tanks/juice to last comfortably for a year could be done for 350$


365 days of smoking a pack a day at 4$ a pack = 1460$

365 days of smoking a pack a day at 5$ = 1825$

6$ = 2190$





do it for the money, if not your health
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Thanks DF! I will try starting tomorrow!

I have to do this or I will die too soon.
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Thanks DF! I will try starting tomorrow!

I have to do this or I will die too soon.
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Good deal, and it is a matter of life and death. DF
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Hey Panama - Just read your post. Welcome. Nice job on going from four/five to a pack a day (it's got to be brutal - like pulling a bandaid off ever so slowly -and you're a better man than I). I bet it was scary to see that flash of red light. When doing research prior to my quit some weeks back, I recall reading that some people become sensitive to light and have some transitory vision issues. If I recall correctly, the article didn't seem to say it was anything permanent or serious. That said, I only play a doctor on tv so it's probably wise to check it out with an MD if you are concerned (and, given your stated fear and request for prayer it seems you are concerned so why not see a doctor). At best, it's nothing, and at the worst, you nip it in the bud and get whatever it may be corrected.

One thing you may want to consider is that smoking four to five packs daily indicates the smokes are really a big part of your daily living (I smoked two packs a day and the smokes were central to, and the focus of, the minutes and hours comprising my days). Given this, I knew I was a nicotine addict. I would not presume to label you as such (only you have the right to do that), but, for me, as an addict I had to recognize the cunning nature of my addiction. My addiction told me I didn't have an addiction. It told me I chose to smoke because I liked it (with coffee, after a meal, after sex, before sex, during sex, after a shower, in the shower, after crossing the international dateline, after sailing the seas on dragon ships, etc...you get the drift). It also told me, insanely, that if I quit smoking that's when the shoe would drop and I'd be diagnoised with something horriffic (lung cancer, throat cancer, empha, and all other ignoble forms of death). Of course, this irrational fear would cause me to smoke more (and beome more difiant and entrenched in my addiction). Wildly insanem which, I believe, is the nature of addiction. I'm not saying any of this is what you're experiencing, but I could see it happening in my mind ("damn, I've gone from four packs a day to one pack a day and now my vision is off and I'm seeing Panama Red...I better get back to smoking four packs a day to clear this shit up."). That's how my insane thinking goes when it comes to this nicotine addiction.

That you've come to this thread and reached-out to like-minded souls indicates that you are stronger than the addiction and you will quit - and will be healthier by quitting - and you will do it along with a group of people who will cheer you on, support you, and aid you in this. I believe we will be better for having you join us and I hope you continue to come here.

Please let us know how you're doing - including the steps up to and including your doctor visit - with the knowledge you've found a safe place to land in your determination to put down the smokes.

Happy New Year o feliz ano nuevo.
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Yes, I will be going to see a doctor just to be on the safe side. My vision is not something I'm willing to play games with.

It's true. I have been very photosensitive since I drastically cut my nicotine intake, and in that one instance I highlighted, painfully so.

Don't worry. It would not be presumptuous at all to address me as Queen Nicotine Junkie, Ruler of the Kingdom of Menthol. When you're using Google Earth, that cloud cover you see over Panama is actually snapshots of my cigarette smoke.

It's easy to burn through as many as five packs a day when one is both a chain smoker and an insomniac, though I've noticed I've been sleeping normal hours ever since I cut back.

I'm well-acquainted with the whisperings of the addiction, the procrastinations, the rationalizations, and the fears that can enter the mind of a smoker who has committed to quit. Usually, I'm in the most danger after I've gone for weeks without smoking and am no longer in withdrawal. I start thinking, "I've got this thing under control. I quit before; I can do it again. Smoking just a little bit won't hurt." Then, before I know it, I've fallen completely off the wagon, and I'm back to chain smoking again.

Due to the insane amount of cigarettes I smoke, I will cut back for a few weeks before stopping entirely. Going from 4-5 packs a day to nothing is just too much of a shock to my system. It really is less painful to go through a period of reduced nicotine withdrawal then endure the withdrawal of cessation, than it is to suffer the harsh jolt of suddenly going cold turkey.

This vision issue is brand new. It's something I've never experienced any other time I quit. I really have to wonder what they're putting in the cigarettes these days. Quitting was so much easier 20 years ago. Either that, or the problem is due to my age.

It's funny; I ran off and did exactly what you said. I completely freaked out, bought some more cigarettes, and spent last night chain smoking again to see if it would "cure" my eyesight. It didn't. All that happened was I woke up feeling like I was short a lung.

It's really amazing how much my breathing had improved just from those several days of cutting back. It only took 8 hours of chain smoking again to undo it.

Now I'm back on my drastically reduced smoking then quitting program and planning to go see an ophthalmologist.
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READ THE BOOK, READ THE BOOK, READ THE BOOK........

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KILL THE BIG MONSTER!!!!!
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Re: I QUIT SMOKING , YOU CAN TOO. I QUIT SEPT 27, 2012, SUPPORT EACH OTHER HERE
I hear you, Panama (and I can tell it's going to be a real pleasure to read of your journey - so glad you're here).

Now that we've established you're a stone-cold nic fiend, we're on a level playing field. Like you, I was a huge menthol smoker. The only time I smoked non-menthol (usually filterless Lucky's) is when I've been on the balls of my ass and a nod was as good as a wink to this blind horse fiending for a smoke. I switched from Kools - we all smoked Kools at 15 in the hood as they supposedly enhanced the potency of our seed-popping, stick-clicking, poorly-rolled, cheap-ass-joints - to Newports at 17 and never looked back. Of course, over the years, I was subjected to the various myths of menthol cigs being far worse than non-menthol cigarettes (menthols placed crystals on your lungs among other horrid attacks to the body). I was usually told of these menthol horrrors by non-menthol smokers in between their own gasping, hacking coughs. I guess everyone wants to feel a little superior to the next bastard suffering. In any event, we don't have to worry about any of that anymore.

I agree with you and believe they've added a lot more chemicals - what was that line in the "Graduate?"..."Plastics, my boy, The future's in plastics!" - in the smokes over the years and some of them add to the potency and difficulty of kicking and detox. In fact, I've heard some of the chemicals found in commercial cigarettes aren't allowed by the EPA to be buried in standard landfills because of their toxicity (I've heard rumblings of nail polish remover, embalming fluid, and other distasteful items found among the additives in our daily habit). And when the poster above mentioned the smell of chocolate surrounding cig factories in the Carolinas, I was not surprised. Like Malcolm X, those greedy bastards will use "whatever means necessary" to keep us enslaved to their poison. Well, now comes the revolution for us.

So glad you're here, Panama. I have every great faith you will be a non-smoker in the near-term. Trust your intuition (as can be seen from your writing, you're able to slice through the whispered lie of our addiction) with the knowledge that this is now your time. Your turn at freedom. Please do keep us posted as to the outcome of your MD visit - although, I feel confident all is well - as well as how the emotional weather report is looking day to day from this point forward. It's going to be a wonderful year for all us and, as always, I know together we can do what we can't do alone. Best to you.





GLP