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Saptaparna (OP)

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Pain associates with sacrifice. What is the sacrifice?
Joy associates with acceptance. What is the acceptance.

You mind tells you there is noting that saves outside of itself. Yet daily, you are your childerens savior. Your daughters are your salvation moment to moment.

Take what you want and leave the rest is a good place to stand. You need not pick up every idea presented in fact. No matter how much persistence is presented in its presentation. Information is not salvation. It is just information in form. Communication is just communication in commun form

Painful display of sacrifice is optional.

The set and limits and fundementals you decide.

Do you honestly feel burdened when you protect your child from harming themselves. Is that painful? I would think not.

Then how can changing and letting go and loving yourself be painful or a burden.

Any void that can be inagined can also be inagined as filled. There is no void, yet in the mind that imagins it real or a trap. It will find any reason to justify its creation and fall with in it and use any device to rationalise with all around that it is real.

Does the man laying on the sidewalk judge the man in the gutter. Does jumping off the second story make you less then the one who jumped off the 19th? Nope. Sometimes its just good to back away from the ledge. And that in itself should not be painful, except to the one who sees jumping as the only viable solution.. which as we know friend, is an outside bandage for an inside wound. Permanent solution to a temporary dilemma.

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I think you are making connections in places that do not exist for me.

In your response you are defining things in different ways from how they were expressed. To be your children's savior should not be equated with mature dependence and reliance on self, whether it be materially providing or spiritually growing the self. Otherwise, why not release all 'burdens' and become dependent on everyone else except yourself?

Changing the self can be a painful process, as I have directly experienced it. There is no rationalizing one way or the other, because for me it IS.

I don't get why you would bring up imagining void, as I know it does not truly exist.

And, the analogy to suicide does not mean anything to me, as I do not stand at that ledge and never have. Now, if you were to ask a person to back off that ledge, they would say it is painful in the extreme, as they know when they back off, the pain is going to still exist there for them, though that pain may be temporary. As you say, perhaps it should not be painful, but in truth and perceptionally, it is.
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Are you still of the idea, you are the only one reading your words? Your threads, if it doesn't apply to you, it is for someone else. Sometimes, the words written to you, find meaning to someone who is just reading.

Afa painful? You said changing yourself is painful. Change yourself to it being non painful. If it is always painful, can the process be changed in which you change?

Ledges and voids, seeing things in absolute, is the footing to non change. It is form. All form is idea.

Is love abstract? Extremes dictate codependency, out of balance out of purportion leads to excess. Where consideration becomes obsession and where confidence becomes ego.
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Are you still of the idea, you are the only one reading your words? Your threads, if it doesn't apply to you, it is for someone else. Sometimes, the words written to you, find meaning to someone who is just reading.

Afa painful? You said changing yourself is painful. Change yourself to it being non painful. If it is always painful, can the process be changed in which you change?

Ledges and voids, seeing things in absolute, is the footing to non change. It is form. All form is idea.

Is love abstract? Extremes dictate codependency, out of balance out of purportion leads to excess. Where consideration becomes obsession and where confidence becomes ego.
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lol, of course I am not the only one reading the thread, but you quoted me so I was assuming the entire response was aimed towards me.

It is not black and white, but I understand what you are getting at. Some changes can be painful, some are the opposite. It is not always painful. The pain is of a different nature than most would call 'pain'. And, truth be known, I am past most of the painful process, and I have changed myself to make it so. When experiencing the self that is other than human, and in so doing dissolving of aspects of ego takes place, it is uncomfortable. I do not see how to get around that 'uncomfortableness' (defined as a type of pain) when these things originally take place. Afterwards, when the self acclimates to the revelation/s, the self changes to make it not so comfortable, or even pleasant when certain changes come.

Of the balance, I am in total agreement.

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The act of being aware that one is alive is uncomfortable.

Extremely Uncomfortable. We have tricked ourselves into dealing with that discomfort by believing our description of the world is the world.

In order to undue this and set ourselves upon the right path...we must trick ourselves into observing the trick.
The engravings translate to "This space intentionally left blank."

The prayer is inscribed in an ancient script, rarely used today. It seems to be a philippic against small insects, absent-mindedness, and the picking up and dropping of small objects.

The gate is open; through it you can see a desolation, with a pile of mangled bodies in one corner. Thousands of voices, lamenting some hideous fate, can be heard.
The way through the gate is barred by evil spirits, who jeer at your attempts to pass.
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What Don Matus referred to as 'the second ring of power'
The engravings translate to "This space intentionally left blank."

The prayer is inscribed in an ancient script, rarely used today. It seems to be a philippic against small insects, absent-mindedness, and the picking up and dropping of small objects.

The gate is open; through it you can see a desolation, with a pile of mangled bodies in one corner. Thousands of voices, lamenting some hideous fate, can be heard.
The way through the gate is barred by evil spirits, who jeer at your attempts to pass.
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What Don Matus referred to as 'the second ring of power'
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Explain this better, Jonny, pretty please.

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What Don Matus referred to as 'the second ring of power'
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Explain this better, Jonny, pretty please.

eyebat
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I would but your fluttering eyelashes have put me in a trance...oh wait...I just explained it.

What a coincidence!!

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The engravings translate to "This space intentionally left blank."

The prayer is inscribed in an ancient script, rarely used today. It seems to be a philippic against small insects, absent-mindedness, and the picking up and dropping of small objects.

The gate is open; through it you can see a desolation, with a pile of mangled bodies in one corner. Thousands of voices, lamenting some hideous fate, can be heard.
The way through the gate is barred by evil spirits, who jeer at your attempts to pass.
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What Don Matus referred to as 'the second ring of power'
 Quoting: Jonny Blaze


Explain this better, Jonny, pretty please.

eyebat
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I would but your fluttering eyelashes have put me in a trance...oh wait...I just explained it.

What a coincidence!!
 Quoting: Jonny Blaze


Yes, and at the same time we are addressing the need for any motion whatsoever.

Who wants to sit in beatific calm?
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What Don Matus referred to as 'the second ring of power'
 Quoting: Jonny Blaze


Explain this better, Jonny, pretty please.

eyebat
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I would but your fluttering eyelashes have put me in a trance...oh wait...I just explained it.

What a coincidence!!
 Quoting: Jonny Blaze


Yes, and at the same time we are addressing the need for any motion whatsoever.

Who wants to sit in beatific calm?
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflattus


Not me. But then again, what I want is merely an indulgence. What I need is impeccable intent.
The engravings translate to "This space intentionally left blank."

The prayer is inscribed in an ancient script, rarely used today. It seems to be a philippic against small insects, absent-mindedness, and the picking up and dropping of small objects.

The gate is open; through it you can see a desolation, with a pile of mangled bodies in one corner. Thousands of voices, lamenting some hideous fate, can be heard.
The way through the gate is barred by evil spirits, who jeer at your attempts to pass.
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Yes, and at the same time we are addressing the need for any motion whatsoever.

Who wants to sit in beatific calm?
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Not me. But then again, what I want is merely an indulgence.

What I need is impeccable intent.
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Your own?

Or anothers?



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Yes, and at the same time we are addressing the need for any motion whatsoever.

Who wants to sit in beatific calm?
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflattus


Not me. But then again, what I want is merely an indulgence.

What I need is impeccable intent.
 Quoting: Jonny Blaze


Your own?

Or anothers?



hf
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Obviously not just my own...or else I wouldn't still be here.
The engravings translate to "This space intentionally left blank."

The prayer is inscribed in an ancient script, rarely used today. It seems to be a philippic against small insects, absent-mindedness, and the picking up and dropping of small objects.

The gate is open; through it you can see a desolation, with a pile of mangled bodies in one corner. Thousands of voices, lamenting some hideous fate, can be heard.
The way through the gate is barred by evil spirits, who jeer at your attempts to pass.
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SS/SOS it will be sad to see you be less on GLP. You are one of the more interesting posters on this site. Nice to know that you have accomplished a lot of what you wanted on your soul search these past 20 years.
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thanks aggie. just going thru a phase
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thumbs You are welcome.
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many times trauma pokes out in ways completely unrelated to the trauma itself. It usually is not so much the trauma that haunts us but the way we dealt with it or didn't deal with it. it leaves a void in our complete self. how do you deal with a once in a lifetime trauma that is left unresolved or unsettled. It is not possible to reconstruct the circumstances of such traumas as they usually were a of nature that a normal person would not purposely seek to replicate again. The residual effects of any traumas are psychological in nature. If one cannot reproduce the physical or emotional nature of the trauma, a psychological exercise to deal with it fails to eradicate the pain.

some deal with this pain by applying it to others. this is the easiest and least effective resolution, as it attempts to deal with the pain via a release that never quells the need, but instead produces a need or lust for more violent physical behavior.

Suppressing the trauma only causes it to peek out in ways not identifiable to the original circumstances. To many it surfaces as inner conflicts that cannot be resolved via the intellect. The intellect is well aware of the of the process of self-deception.

So what does one do? One identifies what is actually preventing a resolution, an unwilligness to stand up to whomever was directly responsible for the trauma
in the first place is a common reason. The reason for this is usually based in a fear of loss. everyone fears loss, but one needs to ask themselves are they prepared to go on living, allowing such a trauma to haunt them to their grave? or is it better to confront the real cause and unshackle yourself from its lifesucking hold?

i have always considered you a friend, and like others see some very noble qualities in you. If need be develop a hard exterior, deal with your issue and then return to your loved ones whole.

i can be a real asshat but you have always supported me on a mutual quest, for that I am grateful to you. so do something and i hope for your families sake that you get the fuck over it.

if all the above is not relevant it might means that youre an ego maniac who no longer finds satisfaction in any of your accomplishments. if that's the case, look around you and see the difference your pathetic life means to other people. Then just say fuck it and do what comes naturally for you. I guarantee you, your writing is what you were meant to do. That is your need, is writing what making you feel guilty?

or is it because your regular job make you fucking miserable?
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many times trauma pokes out in ways completely unrelated to the trauma itself. It usually is not so much the trauma that haunts us but the way we dealt with it or didn't deal with it. it leaves a void in our complete self. how do you deal with a once in a lifetime trauma that is left unresolved or unsettled. It is not possible to reconstruct the circumstances of such traumas as they usually were a of nature that a normal person would not purposely seek to replicate again. The residual effects of any traumas are psychological in nature. If one cannot reproduce the physical or emotional nature of the trauma, a psychological exercise to deal with it fails to eradicate the pain.

some deal with this pain by applying it to others. this is the easiest and least effective resolution, as it attempts to deal with the pain via a release that never quells the need, but instead produces a need or lust for more violent physical behavior.

Suppressing the trauma only causes it to peek out in ways not identifiable to the original circumstances. To many it surfaces as inner conflicts that cannot be resolved via the intellect. The intellect is well aware of the of the process of self-deception.

So what does one do? One identifies what is actually preventing a resolution, an unwilligness to stand up to whomever was directly responsible for the trauma
in the first place is a common reason. The reason for this is usually based in a fear of loss. everyone fears loss, but one needs to ask themselves are they prepared to go on living, allowing such a trauma to haunt them to their grave? or is it better to confront the real cause and unshackle yourself from its lifesucking hold?

i have always considered you a friend, and like others see some very noble qualities in you. If need be develop a hard exterior, deal with your issue and then return to your loved ones whole.

i can be a real asshat but you have always supported me on a mutual quest, for that I am grateful to you. so do something and i hope for your families sake that you get the fuck over it.

if all the above is not relevant it might means that youre an ego maniac who no longer finds satisfaction in any of your accomplishments. if that's the case, look around you and see the difference your pathetic life means to other people. Then just say fuck it and do what comes naturally for you. I guarantee you, your writing is what you were meant to do. That is your need, is writing what making you feel guilty?

or is it because your regular job make you fucking miserable?
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Well, I really have no words to add to this as you obviously have a vast talent in understanding psychology, lol. But I will do so anyway.

I will not redevelop a hard exterior as I used to do.

I can be a real asshat as well, and by your response I know what it is you quest for, at least in part, and with a biased perception of myself.

Feeling guilty is not really part of the equation. It is more akin to feeling pity for myself. And that is where the my interior should say, "fuck myself for feeling pity for myself, and I should kick the shit out of myself for feeling that."

And therein lay the lesson I should remind myself of. To feel pity for one's self is a negative aspect if I have ever stumbled upon one.

I do not know where my misery derives from. Though, I must say, I have come a long way in climbing out of that shitty hole. Actually, I will return to what I said earlier. Misery arises from feeling pity for self. It is an interior influence, not one arriving from the exterior.

Thank you for this. Yours is the perfect response to reflect on, and find the answer I had forgotten so recently, and found again.

Do not feel pity for thyself.
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And don't get any ideas

:Circle Maker:

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Luv ya boots...
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~ What if I say I'm not like the others? What if I say I'm not just another one of of your plays?
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Luv ya boots...
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Funny how we can get to a point where we don't know what questions to ask.

Is that when it's time for retirement, contemplating the allure of the pasture? Or is it time to become an agent provocateur? Of a 'different' employ?

Always interesting how language offers various visuals according to depth of interpretation.

'get to a point':

- arrive at a point in time or space
- arrive at a singular location
- arrive at an acute peak
- mark a culmination in speech, etc

Pierce the freaking veil so much that no one else can catch up, especially since much of that inner world is local patois and familiar constructs. Your own private Idaho. The ivory tower that we usually disdain...

Standing on a pin head. Stuck in 1-D. That would suck, and that reminds me of the dark night. Go through it once and you know....

... that if you succomb to it again, then at some point it becomes a matter of self-inflection. And you know what, there's nothing wrong with that. It's just not necessary. Lead to an extreme it's self-mortification...

... and that's profiling, and that's just not right ;) lmao


So what can we do when we get to 'that' point?


That point also reminds me of the Little Prince, standing alone, but for a flower, on his own little planet...

.. And still, nobody knows where gobo goes...

In the stillness, we are no body and we enter our cave,

We've known it all along.
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Funny how we can get to a point where we don't know what questions to ask.

Is that when it's time for retirement, contemplating the allure of the pasture? Or is it time to become an agent provocateur? Of a 'different' employ?

Always interesting how language offers various visuals according to depth of interpretation.

'get to a point':

- arrive at a point in time or space
- arrive at a singular location
- arrive at an acute peak
- mark a culmination in speech, etc

Pierce the freaking veil so much that no one else can catch up, especially since much of that inner world is local patois and familiar constructs. Your own private Idaho. The ivory tower that we usually disdain...

Standing on a pin head. Stuck in 1-D. That would suck, and that reminds me of the dark night. Go through it once and you know....

... that if you succomb to it again, then at some point it becomes a matter of self-inflection. And you know what, there's nothing wrong with that. It's just not necessary. Lead to an extreme it's self-mortification...

... and that's profiling, and that's just not right ;) lmao


So what can we do when we get to 'that' point?


That point also reminds me of the Little Prince, standing alone, but for a flower, on his own little planet...

.. And still, nobody knows where gobo goes...

In the stillness, we are no body and we enter our cave,

We've known it all along.
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:)

Love this.

I have noticed, when the questions or direction do not come with ease, then one must wait for the questions or direction to present themselves...which they often seem to do.


Perhaps being, nothing more that a wayward star to catch in our net, which propels us to new discoveries.

There is always hope...


A bit like a choose your own adventure...


For example, the book The Little Prince. While isolated on his planet, he is able to 'catch stars' and travel around exploring and experiencing new things.



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Pain associates with sacrifice. What is the sacrifice?
Joy associates with acceptance. What is the acceptance.

You mind tells you there is noting that saves outside of itself. Yet daily, you are your childerens savior. Your daughters are your salvation moment to moment.

Take what you want and leave the rest is a good place to stand. You need not pick up every idea presented in fact. No matter how much persistence is presented in its presentation. Information is not salvation. It is just information in form. Communication is just communication in commun form

Painful display of sacrifice is optional.

The set and limits and fundementals you decide.

Do you honestly feel burdened when you protect your child from harming themselves. Is that painful? I would think not.

Then how can changing and letting go and loving yourself be painful or a burden.

Any void that can be inagined can also be inagined as filled. There is no void, yet in the mind that imagins it real or a trap. It will find any reason to justify its creation and fall with in it and use any device to rationalise with all around that it is real.

Does the man laying on the sidewalk judge the man in the gutter. Does jumping off the second story make you less then the one who jumped off the 19th? Nope. Sometimes its just good to back away from the ledge. And that in itself should not be painful, except to the one who sees jumping as the only viable solution.. which as we know friend, is an outside bandage for an inside wound. Permanent solution to a temporary dilemma.

Love

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I think you are making connections in places that do not exist for me.

In your response you are defining things in different ways from how they were expressed. To be your children's savior should not be equated with mature dependence and reliance on self, whether it be materially providing or spiritually growing the self. Otherwise, why not release all 'burdens' and become dependent on everyone else except yourself?

Changing the self can be a painful process, as I have directly experienced it. There is no rationalizing one way or the other, because for me it IS.

I don't get why you would bring up imagining void, as I know it does not truly exist.

And, the analogy to suicide does not mean anything to me, as I do not stand at that ledge and never have. Now, if you were to ask a person to back off that ledge, they would say it is painful in the extreme, as they know when they back off, the pain is going to still exist there for them, though that pain may be temporary. As you say, perhaps it should not be painful, but in truth and perceptionally, it is.
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My mistake. The above is refrenced to this poster, sometimes i get a lil jumbled up.

I re-directed him here

From here:

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I'm pretty sure I am done. I'll still hang around and stuff, for a while. But, I think I am done trying to figure things out.

I had a discussion with Dion on my Septenary Man thread, and it is crazy when I look at my old writings, writings more than 20 years old of mine. Fuck. I've accomplished them. I was on a quest to touch my soul, my spirit, and see what I was comprised of.

Throughout my entire life there has been an ache, a longing, to struggle through all the many illusions of what we are before we have been entangled in the web of the human condition.

The human condition is comprised of unreality. It is comprised of errors and distortions and longing and blindness, and false hopes and deception and the worst of it; relying on others to find the self. Co-dependence and crutches and fantasies and all the many, many disturbing, debilitating constructs of fear and doubt.

I have asked the questions throughout my life, since the time I can remember: What are we and what are we here for?

Even when these answers become known, there is no relief or release like we think there will be. Unfortunately, learning or suspecting the answers...well the answers remain
beyond human expression. It is akin to trying to describe, in full and in perfect form beyond equivocation , the reason why you love your child, or the reason you were born. Read the tales of the saints.
[link to en.wikipedia.org]
Read of St. John of the Cross and Saint Teresa of Avila. Their experiences, according to modern day Christians on this site would be of demonic influence.

Ah, I am getting off on a tangent.

There is no 100% absolution. I know now why the religious find such comfort in believing something from outside themselves will provide full absolution. How/why? Because it cannot be done save for fantasies and beliefs and the power of conformity that chains the soul.

The chains, the restriction, the boundaries that the human condition has constructed about itself...are comforting. We have been indoctrinated, composed of since our first breath, the predisposed human fallacy of not cycles, but of a singular beginning and end.

It all needs to be redone. The holy wars, the separation, the judgements, the righteousness. There is a problem though. Before, these things were isolated ideologies. Now, they consume the world. Not to mention the vices of greed and vanity.

We are due a cleansing. Cleansing does not mean death, but it does mean a painful SCRUB; a painful clearing of things attached to us that are not of our own self.

ALL the things you experience in this life are your own...

~ I need to get back in touch with myself. I have strayed a very long way from my center. It is difficult being this sensitized to the world, to the people surrounding my life.
I want to go deep, deep down into the thing that I am. Touch my soul and release it. Let it flow out and consume my subjective being.
I can sense it here. I feel it. It’s just out of sight. It feels strange. It is here. And it is me. But it feels like someone else.
I hope one day I allow it to span this chasm of fear and sorrow that I have dug. Let my soul cross it, and like the sands beneath the ocean waves, I will let it engulf me and let it preside over the confusion and doubts that have constructed my life.

 Quoting: Saptaparna


Ya know, man, I've been feeling this too. I gotta be honest tho, I was gonna start by saying don't quit and give you the pep talk, which I still might. But after sitting here for a few minutes mulling over your OP here, OP. I realized I can relate to this as well.

For me, personally, I only have a few options right now. I've backed myself into a financial corner. No car, job, money, + debt that I am ignoring. I feel like i've gotta leave my house. It's time. But i'm not sure where to go or what to do with nothing. . . either way, I wanted it, ya know. But i've come to the choice, really i've got 3, stay here and get a job, move, or just start walking.

I've wanted to leave, you know. just go for a while. just tent it, head to the serpent mound and go from there. I havn't had the balls to do it yet tho. So, i'm really looking at moving up north a bit and working in a community of sorts. Actually, probably the best example of a community i've seen, besides Amish, but i've never been a part of that.

It's hard because all of these choices mean something different. And all i've been doing is sitting in the middle, watching and learning, some would call it trolling and whining, lol. What makes it more difficult is that i know i can help in the big picture. . . It's hard to talk about even. . You know, you find a bit of yourself in here, when you come to GLP and start seeing: damn, people around here are like me, or at least, into figuring things out like I am. And you're all excited about sharing and helping and learning more and then, you get beaten down. Could by by a harmless comment you took the wrong way, or an asshole comment you took to heart.

And everyone thinks they have it right. They know better than you. I've been doing this for so many years. They've got they answer. They Are the answer.

And not many people are willing to admit they are wrong. They don't have all the answers. They can't have all the answers.
And that's the truest thing anyone can say.

People aren't as willing to change as I once thought. back when I thought everyone thought like me and I didn't know anything compared to anyone else. Change. We are always changing within our own cycles and grand cycles. Why aren't we willing to change our opinions as easialy when we're wrong?

I don't know. This world is a tough place to live. And I don't think that release point is going to happen untill we've started on a new path. and for me, untill we see it through. This is a big game we're playing. And what kind of fun is a game that you can know the outcome to?

Lately i've been saying it's 50/50. If you could know everything there wouldn't be a need for other human beings
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I see you Sapta. Stay strong, the answers are coming....

Soon®™

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The whole art of meditation is to see things just as they are, without any interference, without any distortion — and then life becomes something totally different. It moves into a new dimension. You are full of energy because all that conflict is finished, all that chaos is gone — you have bypassed it — there is great silence. And in that silence there is joy, in that silence there is understanding, in that silence there is clarity. You can see who you are, where you are, why you are. All these questions simply disappear. Not that you have found some answers in the scriptures but the ultimate answer, which dissolved all questions, has arisen in you.

And Maila means fragrance. To live a life of meditativeness is to live a life of fragrance. The mind stinks, it is a rotten gutter. No-mind is the opening of your consciousness. It opens like a flower: there is a great release of fragrance. Your whole life becomes fragrant with bliss, with truth, with love, with freedom, with all that is worth having, with all that is timeless, indestructible, eternal.

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The whole art of meditation is to see things just as they are, without any interference, without any distortion — and then life becomes something totally different. It moves into a new dimension. You are full of energy because all that conflict is finished, all that chaos is gone — you have bypassed it — there is great silence. And in that silence there is joy, in that silence there is understanding, in that silence there is clarity. You can see who you are, where you are, why you are. All these questions simply disappear. Not that you have found some answers in the scriptures but the ultimate answer, which dissolved all questions, has arisen in you.

And Maila means fragrance. To live a life of meditativeness is to live a life of fragrance. The mind stinks, it is a rotten gutter. No-mind is the opening of your consciousness. It opens like a flower: there is a great release of fragrance. Your whole life becomes fragrant with bliss, with truth, with love, with freedom, with all that is worth having, with all that is timeless, indestructible, eternal.

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 Quoting: just a dude


Thank for this Dude.
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