Reconciliation

hardcore stuff SS,

Ive noticed you have been more edgy lately.. maybe you are trying too hard?

I am too in my own way and can relate to that. dont have any answers really.

I wish I could understand Plato

Peace

Will find u

in sleep

or turse

actually its not Plato so much but Socrates! except to understand him all we really have is Plato..

I dunno.. take a break L0L

Suuuuure you are.

By the way I gave this thread a 1 star.

For damn good reason.

The best is yet to come...



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but I gota tell ya though.. in trying so hard to comprehend yours and others thoughts here sometimes I just keep reading when its way over my head in hopes that when you figure it all out it will somehow work for me too. L0L

its strenuous and taxing just reading, I cant imagine IMAGINING It all but even the stuff that I do start to comprehend has been stored and so its right there waiting and ready for the next mind bending whatever so that it will all click together when the time is right.

the last stuff you were on about and said it was almost to hard to imaging ironically I was understanding (all solid matter) you said you were struggling hard with it and it seemed not so difficult to me (after you put it together that way) it was one of thos things that I experienced as a child.

I thought about mentioning it and even had a way that might help you refine that (maybe not) but held off because at the time on that thread there was also alot of offtopic but syncronic posts that hard me sorta trippin' so I held out on ya. sorry.

maybe after some down dime when you return ready for more I will mention it. probably nothing but it felt SOLID.

Had not Hard me sorta trippin'..

almost fruedian ther but impossible.. Im a Jungian L0L

id love to talk with you.but not in public.

OP, are you stuck within the confines of your inner dialogue? The inner monologue that dictates your every behavior is actually controlling it by putting its own meanings into your input signals.

Intuitively remember, rather than restrict and bend your reasoning and confusing yourself within the magick of the language that was handed to you by your controllers from birth.

Once you cross to the next plane for more information, this knowledge will become helpful in remembering. You can expand your spacial reasoning so that you're living with your true self simultaneously in 2 dimensions or more. Your current perception is merely a fragment of who you truly are.

I sense that the idea that this post suggest "intuitively remember" can be your friend..... Just as you mentioned "Read of St. John of the Cross and Saint Teresa of Avila. Their experiences, according to modern day Christians on this site would be of demonic influence.

Ah, I am getting off on a tangent." Getting off the tangent is what can set yourself free... listen to the wind OP ...

allow yourself to listen and not make construct... allow yourself to ride the wind : ) blessings in your journey

"The dark night of the soul
comes just before revelation.

When everything is lost,
and all seems darkness,
then comes the new life
and all that is needed."

~Joseph Campbell
Reflections on the Art of Living

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Reconciliation
vs.
Resolution


I accommodate
vs.
I am done

Nicely put.

Wow, I didn't expect responses like this at all.

Thank you all very much.

When learning these things, it changes you, and it can be a difficult acclimation process. That is one of the things I struggle with daily; constantly changing...yet having to remain the same as well. It is like juggling a thousand amorphous subtleties and placing shape to their clouds through the motions of the arcs formed from the cycling motions.

Perhaps most people may think that learning, especially of deeper meanings residing close to the soul, do not require changes in the self to accept.

But, it absolutely requires that change of self, or it becomes as a teaching that is never mastered. This is why it is necessary that reconciliation that must take place in the conscious mind.

At this point, it is near non-stop, this process, and it wearies the soul. This is why I brought up the saints in the original post, so seemingly out of the blue. Reading through the words and experiences, I learned that they were constantly adjusting their souls, and constantly seeking. And with that comes the vast pain and weariness they experienced.

The only way to get through it, like I said above, is through reconciliation through the avenue of the conscious mind.

Last Edited by Saptaparna on 10/13/2012 11:47 AM

Damn straight, listen for the tribal drums and lose yourself in the forest.

It has worked for me. But, I can't advocate it for everyone.

Saints are cool, especially bilocators

María Fernández Coronel y Arana, Abbess of Ágreda (2 April 1602 – 24 May 1665) was a Franciscan nun and author known for reports of bilocation between Spain and New Mexico in the 17th century. In religious life she was known Sor (Sister) María de Jesús de Ágreda. Popular culture since the 17th century has also dubbed her as the Lady in Blue and the Blue Nun. The series of books that she wrote were about the life Blessed Virgin Mary. Her bilocation activity occurred between her cloistered convent in Spain and the Jumano Indians of central New Mexico and West Texas. Before missionaries arrived to provide instruction about the Christian faith, she provided religious instruction to the Jumanos during her biloctaions. She was a member of the Roman Catholic group of religious women called the Order of the Immaculate Conception (also known as Franciscan Conceptionists).

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I've been out in surf like that many, many times,

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Lose self to find what you are looking for.

The problem I see you having is the emphasis placed on the importance of your thoughts. You SS are alot like me. We both love thinking and love it too much. We both search and search but I think I discovered an answer that may work for you as it has at one time for me and others that I have known and read about (and what I am continuing to reconcile myself :))

Traversing thru the dark night isn't about control or knowing, it's unknowing. Clear the slate/fear in it's multitude of forms. It's akin to jumping off a bridge and saying you know what, despite all I know I still don't know anything really and jumping anyway into the unknown.

It's all a journey. A soul journey to learn how to love in all the situations that life throws at us and/ or we create. For myself this is the meaning of life. There are many who believe this too. It makes it simpler too when one realizes this. In a way it is obvious but we have collective amnesia it would seem (presumably to allow us to grow.) Fear abounds and throws big wrenches into our being if we don't know what to look for and how to reconcile it and when not to engage unnecessary aspects of it (continually watching the news, violent media, conspiracy theories, things we can never influence/control the outcome, etc.)

Is it easy to tackle every fear/manifestation of fear at every turn? No. If it was this world wouldn't be the free will training ground it is for souls. Many of us know we co-create our reality and there is life before and after death. Many of us signed up for this so-called "transitory" time and came here to help others in various ways.

We complicate the heck out out of everything becoming attached thru expectations. Acceptance and gratitude for the way things are, are really huge assets to continually free ourselves. Viewing things from a perspective of knowing things are meant to be the way they are (acceptance) and having the capability of forward forgiveness allows us to obtain/maintain a loving, witnessing state of being. Many souls (including ourselves) will disappoint us so it's best to be prepared in advance in a way. This can take practice or one may be gifted with a form of "enlightenment" to enable this state of being.

We all make mistakes. We all get caught up in things. It's in learning and reconciling that we truly grow. There are tools like Astrology, crystals, psychics/mediums to access spirit if we don't have our own guides, etc. that we can use to help further our reconciliation process/soul growth and to learn about what it is we are here to do. Sometimes our missions aren't totally revealed all at once like we would like because as I said it's a journey. Each interaction we have we can help others and in turn can help others, etc. It really is so much about love. But for many they have been conditioned away from this in our societies.

To reconcile our fear and it's manifestations we all can ask for help from source/G-d. People again don't like to engage the fact there is something far greater than themselves at work. They think if they know about it/don't know about it and/or can't see it and/or feel they shouldn't have to give up the control they don't really have in the first place /(resort to relying on this greater power.) People want control. It's fear. It's not love. When people give up all that they think they are and are wholly willing to be changed then source/G-d can and does begin to work with one in a more profound manner (one can become a conduit.) The goal is to be in loving service to the all that is without credit or expectation of the result in any shape or form.

Again this goes back to the message. We are spirit. We really don't own anything tangible when you think about it. Our ego though clamors for identity. It wants us to be a "genius" for instance when that label should never be used because it means nothing that really matters. The same for "gifted" as who really bestows these gifts and can't these be taken away (I know this too well personally.) It wants fame and fortune and legacy which are all traps of the finite ego fear based mind.

Think in terms of a loving spirit - it has nothing but what definitively? Love. No possessions, no land, no bank account, no real needs whatsoever. What are we? We are spirit having a human experience to learn how to love in a multitude of expressions (forgiveness and acceptance being parts of this.)

Some of us have had many incarnations in the past and future to learn this. The science of astrology can teach us many things as can accessing certain "records." Our goal is to live the highest expression of this "energetic template" in which we choose to incarnate into and reside moment to moment. Energetically we are affected by many things (cosmic and terrestrial-planets/sun/energy clouds and ourselves/people/em fields/plants/animals/mineral/em grid, etc.)
Many are unaware of the multitude of effects but the goal ultimately is to love all that is which includes source/G-d and to be grateful for all that is/source/G-d.

Too many haven't reconciled, as you were, these connections to arrive at this place of being. Fear ultimately blocks this in it's various manifestations. Unresolved shame, guilt, fear, anger, gluttony, pride, lust, etc. trap us and keep us from love/acceptance. There are what are called "the promises" in the various "divinely inspired" "channeled" 12 step programs if you want to learn about what any one of us can ascertain in human form. We should be feeling love, joy, satisfaction, and even bliss up to even ecstasy as I felt experiencing this, this past year.

Of course it's a journey and life changes all the time so we continue to try to improve ourselves. Much happens in life and because we feel/think fear we don't always accept what comes our way. We experience relationships, illness, death, etc. that all can be new learning experiences. Just remember it is love that we should be focusing on and the rest seems to take care of itself if we don't fear and participate honestly, willingly with an open-mind in life. Having reverence for all life is important too. Will we ever be perfect here? Absolutely not. Maybe in some places back in the spirit world but who knows. Let G-d and let go...I hope this helps.

All musings and no absolutes...

SS/SOS it will be sad to see you less on GLP. You are one of the more interesting posters on this site. Nice to know that you have accomplished a lot of what you wanted on your soul search these past 20 years.

Last Edited by Aggieranch on 10/16/2012 05:54 PM

+ A lot.

thanks aggie. just going thru a phase

To read later (:

Yep, thanks the bovine growth hormone worked!!!
You succeeded in creating bigger better cattle for the hecatomb.

Hell, I'm like what at least 50 cows in girth.

Great job! All in the name of cancer research and funding approved.

Wonder why, AWOL-Y whorl

The World's Largest Cow. Yep name is Rio (smirk)

The Spanish owners of the beast will try to get it listed in the Guinness Book of World Records as the largest ...


Excuse me, the Spanish Owner?

You mean the chupacabre dude. The red bull gave you wings dude.

Hecatomb. Its a sacrifice.

Pain associates with sacrifice. What is the sacrifice?
Joy associates with acceptance. What is the acceptance.

You mind tells you there is noting that saves outside of itself. Yet daily, you are your childerens savior. Your daughters are your salvation moment to moment.

Take what you want and leave the rest is a good place to stand. You need not pick up every idea presented in fact. No matter how much persistence is presented in its presentation. Information is not salvation. It is just information in form. Communication is just communication in commun form

Painful display of sacrifice is optional.

The set and limits and fundementals you decide.

Do you honestly feel burdened when you protect your child from harming themselves. Is that painful? I would think not.

Then how can changing and letting go and loving yourself be painful or a burden.

Any void that can be inagined can also be inagined as filled. There is no void, yet in the mind that imagins it real or a trap. It will find any reason to justify its creation and fall with in it and use any device to rationalise with all around that it is real.

Does the man laying on the sidewalk judge the man in the gutter. Does jumping off the second story make you less then the one who jumped off the 19th? Nope. Sometimes its just good to back away from the ledge. And that in itself should not be painful, except to the one who sees jumping as the only viable solution.. which as we know friend, is an outside bandage for an inside wound. Permanent solution to a temporary dilemma.

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