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Have you ever seen Obama wearing a cross?

 
beeches (OP)

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Re: Have you ever seen Obama wearing a cross?
True Christians never wear a Cross!

True Christians act like Christians
and do not need a Fashion Accessoires!
 Quoting: the mighty Atom


Yes, some Christians claim it to be a gold or silver idol. They believe more focus is on the fact that one is fussing over gold, silver, diamonds, Gucci, Tiffany, etc. Therefore, one is truly focused on the idol and showing off the idol, rather than focusing on Christ. Just think of what Christ wanted in the bible, to sell all that, give the money to the poor, and then follow him. He foretells of two witnesses coming to warn us in sackclothes, not Tiffany.

Even without a cross, I think you can still see anti-Christian and anti-American actions coming from O.

Yet, it is interesting, OP.
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Now I'm logged in - thanks for the comments. It is amazing to me that o would not wear an American flag lapel pin until his handlers insisted.

Yet no picture of him exists with a crosss - hey, if the jewelry aspect offends some _

Have you ever seen him with a Bible? NO.

Has he joined a church in DC, as all presidents do? NO.

Does he let his daughters celebrate Christmas? NO

the guy is not Christian. Rev. Wright was a human fig leaf.
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Re: Have you ever seen Obama wearing a cross?
True Christians never wear a Cross!

True Christians act like Christians
and do not need a Fashion Accessoires!
 Quoting: the mighty Atom


Yes, some Christians claim it to be a gold or silver idol. They believe more focus is on the fact that one is fussing over gold, silver, diamonds, Gucci, Tiffany, etc. Therefore, one is truly focused on the idol and showing off the idol, rather than focusing on Christ. Just think of what Christ wanted in the bible, to sell all that, give the money to the poor, and then follow him. He foretells of two witnesses coming to warn us in sackclothes, not Tiffany.

Even without a cross, I think you can still see anti-Christian and anti-American actions coming from O.

Yet, it is interesting, OP.
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Now I'm logged in - thanks for the comments. It is amazing to me that o would not wear an American flag lapel pin until his handlers insisted.

Yet no picture of him exists with a crosss - hey, if the jewelry aspect offends some _

Have you ever seen him with a Bible? NO.

Has he joined a church in DC, as all presidents do? NO.

Does he let his daughters celebrate Christmas? NO

the guy is not Christian. Rev. Wright was a human fig leaf.
 Quoting: beeches


What's the big deal? Church and state is divided, right?
beeches (OP)

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10/13/2012 05:32 PM

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Re: Have you ever seen Obama wearing a cross?
The big deal is lying.

He presented himself as a Christian and he is not.


Also, he himself is mixing church and state, or what else would you call his insistence the Catholic church offer contraception?
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Re: Have you ever seen Obama wearing a cross?
I've never seen George W. Bush wearing a cross either, but I don't doubt his Christianity.
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Re: Have you ever seen Obama wearing a cross?
Didn't think so.

He pretended to be Christian to get votes.

Typical musslim deceit and treachery.
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I'd say there's more chance of seeing him wearing a pearl necklace..
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Re: Have you ever seen Obama wearing a cross?
I've never seen George W. Bush wearing a cross either, but I don't doubt his Christianity.
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That is because he attended church frequently, and spoke of following Christ.

o has not done those things either.

Still no pic.
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Re: Have you ever seen Obama wearing a cross?
Didn't think so.

He pretended to be Christian to get votes.

Typical musslim deceit and treachery.
 Quoting: beeches


I'd say there's more chance of seeing him wearing a pearl necklace..
 Quoting: Dr Phil


Why, are they Barry's birthstone?
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Re: Have you ever seen Obama wearing a cross?
You think Jesus ever wants to see a cross again if he ever came back?

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Re: Have you ever seen Obama wearing a cross?
The big deal is lying.

He presented himself as a Christian and he is not.


Also, he himself is mixing church and state, or what else would you call his insistence the Catholic church offer contraception?
 Quoting: beeches


Youre just the usual Christian idiot who'll tell people anything in order to get rid of your black president. You Christians are full of hate, and Jesus would tell you all to go to a certain unpleasant place if he came back.
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Re: Have you ever seen Obama wearing a cross?
If Jesus were put to death by beheading...would you all wear little gold guillotines around your necks?
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Re: Have you ever seen Obama wearing a cross?
I've never seen George W. Bush wearing a cross either, but I don't doubt his Christianity.
 Quoting: a helpless lamb


That is because he attended church frequently, and spoke of following Christ.

o has not done those things either.

Still no pic.
 Quoting: beeches


I've never seen George W. Bush wearing a cross either, but I don't doubt his Christianity.
 Quoting: a helpless lamb


That is because he attended church frequently, and spoke of following Christ.

o has not done those things either.

Still no pic.
 Quoting: beeches


Well, Obama attended church frequently too.. Not all christians and faiths wear crosses. This is kinda silly. Frankly, I can't remember any president wearing a cross.
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beeches (OP)

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Re: Have you ever seen Obama wearing a cross?
Sorry Eurotard, I am not a Christian at all, but a Messianic Jew.

I do hate lying. Most honest people do. The Torah teaches
"justice, justice you shall pursue."

There is no justice without truth.


And o has no truth in him.

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Re: Have you ever seen Obama wearing a cross?
Sorry Eurotard, I am not a Christian at all, but a Messianic Jew.

I do hate lying. Most honest people do. The Torah teaches
"justice, justice you shall pursue."

There is no justice without truth.


And o has no truth in him.
 Quoting: beeches

Messianic Jew - what's the difference?
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Re: Have you ever seen Obama wearing a cross?
Sorry Eurotard, I am not a Christian at all, but a Messianic Jew.

I do hate lying. Most honest people do. The Torah teaches
"justice, justice you shall pursue."

There is no justice without truth.


And o has no truth in him.
 Quoting: beeches

Messianic Jew - what's the difference?
 Quoting: Libra II 1001450


So what do you wear around your neck ... or on your arm, op?
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Re: Have you ever seen Obama wearing a cross?
Did he ever say that he was christian, do you have to be christian to hold that position. What worried me was when he didnt put his hand over his heart when the national anthem was being played. I though all americans did that.
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beeches (OP)

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Re: Have you ever seen Obama wearing a cross?
Sorry Eurotard, I am not a Christian at all, but a Messianic Jew.

I do hate lying. Most honest people do. The Torah teaches
"justice, justice you shall pursue."

There is no justice without truth.


And o has no truth in him.
 Quoting: beeches

Messianic Jew - what's the difference?
 Quoting: Libra II 1001450


Short version:

A messianic Jew is a Jew who follows the teaching of the Torah, and believes that Yeshua is the fulfillment of the messianic prophecies in the Torah.

We keep kosher, have the Sabbath on Saturday, celebrate the festivals Jesus did: Passover, Sukkoth, Yom Kippur, etc.

No Christmas or Easter, because they are not the festivals the Lord mentions in the Torah.

We worship in Hebrew, some English. We actually read the Old Testament. If more Jews actually read it, it would mean far more Messianics in the world.
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Re: Have you ever seen Obama wearing a cross?
No, and neither do I, but the worst, most sinful and hypocritical "Christians" I know are always wearing and flaunting big gold ones... not to mention randomly mentioning bible versus and thanking the lord at random moments...

The more you have to make up for, it seems to me. I notice they forget all the stuff about meekness and modesty.
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Re: Have you ever seen Obama wearing a cross?
Did he ever say that he was christian, do you have to be christian to hold that position. What worried me was when he didnt put his hand over his heart when the national anthem was being played. I though all americans did that.
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lol, so it doesn't jump out or something?
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Re: Have you ever seen Obama wearing a cross?
Jews who become Messianic can pay a heavy price if their families do not agree.

Thankfully there are many Jewish families who have believed in Yeshua for generations.
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Re: Have you ever seen Obama wearing a cross?
Did he ever say that he was christian, do you have to be christian to hold that position. What worried me was when he didnt put his hand over his heart when the national anthem was being played. I though all americans did that.
 Quoting: grasptheuniverse


lol, so it doesn't jump out or something?
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Yes, obama said he was a Christian, and claimed he attended a church in Chicago for twenty years.

That was when he wanted to be elected the first time around.
Now the truth has leaked out.
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Re: Have you ever seen Obama wearing a cross?
Now why on Earth would a Muslim wear a cross?
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10/13/2012 06:15 PM
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OK, it is no secret that Obama is a Muslim. HE said it himself and MORE than once. Why are people acting like it is four years ago?

Everyone just come out from under a rock or what?
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Re: Have you ever seen Obama wearing a cross?
OK, it is no secret that Obama is a Muslim. HE said it himself and MORE than once. Why are people acting like it is four years ago?

Everyone just come out from under a rock or what?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24960373


When did he say to the American people that he is a muslim?

maybe he told you, but that is not what he has said publicly.
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Re: Have you ever seen Obama wearing a cross?
Sorry Eurotard, I am not a Christian at all, but a Messianic Jew.

I do hate lying. Most honest people do. The Torah teaches
"justice, justice you shall pursue."

There is no justice without truth.


And o has no truth in him.
 Quoting: beeches

Messianic Jew - what's the difference?
 Quoting: Libra II 1001450


Short version:

A messianic Jew is a Jew who follows the teaching of the Torah, and believes that Yeshua is the fulfillment of the messianic prophecies in the Torah.

We keep kosher, have the Sabbath on Saturday, celebrate the festivals Jesus did: Passover, Sukkoth, Yom Kippur, etc.

No Christmas or Easter, because they are not the festivals the Lord mentions in the Torah.

We worship in Hebrew, some English. We actually read the Old Testament. If more Jews actually read it, it would mean far more Messianics in the world.
 Quoting: beeches

Not such a big fat deal of a difference, is it? Why was it a secret that you are Jewish up to now? So Obama hasn't been good enough to Israel, in your opinion, right?
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OK, it is no secret that Obama is a Muslim. HE said it himself and MORE than once. Why are people acting like it is four years ago?

Everyone just come out from under a rock or what?
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When did he say to the American people that he is a muslim?

maybe he told you, but that is not what he has said publicly.
 Quoting: beeches

UM, yeah, he SAID it himself and was "CORRECTED" by the news anchor and THEN changed it after being corrected. Where the heck have you been?
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Re: Have you ever seen Obama wearing a cross?
No secret.


Follow my many posts, I am proud to be a Messianic Jew.


obamma's lying is the issue, not my religion or yours.
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No secret.


Follow my many posts, I am proud to be a Messianic Jew.


obamma's lying is the issue, not my religion or yours.
 Quoting: beeches


I don't believe he's lied about anything. Now about Obama and Israel, youre pissed off, right
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Re: Have you ever seen Obama wearing a cross?
No secret.


Follow my many posts, I am proud to be a Messianic Jew.


obamma's lying is the issue, not my religion or yours.
 Quoting: beeches

Lying being the issue, yes. But what about evidence? Speculation alone means nothing. We need to review the course of actions and verbage by a person suspected of lying.

Perhaps what he says and does or does not do is circumstantial to SUPPORT that he is lying or not lying, right?

If we took him to court TODAY for example, you would NEED evidence to back up the claim that you say he is lying. Religion is like knowing if you are rich/poor or if you are male/female...you just KNOW what you are along with skin color or where you were born. You do not just FORGET or slip up. Try forgetting your religion, skin color or gender sometime...doesn't happen.

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