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IS IT POSSIBLE NOT TO BE A CITIZEN OF ANY COUNTRY WHAT SO EVER?

 
Anonymous Coward
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10/13/2012 08:25 PM
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All land is claimed by governments. The seas were not claimed until the Bush administration decided that the U.S.A. had worldwide jurisdiction, so, no, even if you are on the high seas you are subject to the U.S.A. - but, you won't be a citizen, so yes in that legal context - but only on the high seas.
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10/13/2012 08:27 PM
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Buy a yacht!
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10/13/2012 08:45 PM
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Look, don't worry about what country anyone says you belong to. Real freedom is beginning to understand that no country owns you. You are already free! You just don't believe it. Live free anywhere.

Don't play their game. They can call you by any nationality, but it means nothing!

Thread: What is freedom? Does freedom come from a government/society or is freedom attained spiritually?
Anonymous Coward
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10/13/2012 08:58 PM
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I know, no one believes it.

If you think you are Israeli or American, YOU ARE!

I was born here, but I don't belong to any country.....in my heart.
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10/13/2012 09:12 PM
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s. d. butler

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10/13/2012 10:01 PM
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I've always wondered what it would be like if a bunch of people got together and decided to build a floating city, that was it's own soverign nation.

Obviously the thing would have to be very large and built to sustain violent storms and would have to have hydroponic farms, electricity generated via windmill and what not, water treatment/desalinization facilities. The startup costs would be expensive as well as maintenence but if you built it near a shipping lane the potential to make money back via trade and taxes is there.

Would be an interesting concept.

Kinda like water world but without the world having flooded hehe5a
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This has been tried numerous times.
the white rose

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i have an israeli and american citizenships... is it possible to give both of them up?

and be a free man?!
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I am standing as a son of the soil under the Sovereign Creator of the Universe.Outside the BAR with a prayer on the land and I do not wish to be forced to pray to the BAR,with court of fiction or other false idols. Let the record show that I am the absolute biological property of the Creator and heir to the Covenant.The Bible and the Urantia Book are my only Law. May I remind you that in God we trust remains the operative currency of the United States.I am not a child of the State,a ward of the State Corporation or Legal fiction name on a piece of paper.
The Creator has granted me full authority of my own affairs. Since you have pledged allegiance to one nation under God any attempt to force me to pray inside the BAR or impose the United States Federal Corporation statutes on this non corporate living man is an attack on The Creator Himself and a violation of the Covenant.You and I are created equal in God's eyes I am not and can never be your subject .As a public servant you are a protector of my faith under God and under Caesar.
My law was commissioned by King George the first ancest to King George the third who signed the Treaty of Paris ,which recognized my Sovereignty over this administrative court.As my public servant you are expected to defend that treaty by defending my law at all times and insuring my safe passage thru the united states.
My offer in the presence of the Father in Heaven to settle this matter and make all parties whole is righteous.I authorize the use of my credit to pay all penal sums and expenses real or imagined .As a matter of law this matter is now settled.
As I am immune from your corporate impulses any further attack on me will comprise an enticement to commit treason and blasphemy by abandoning divine right only God can grant or terminate.
For the record I expressly wave all privileges from the U.S.federal corporation including the privilege of appearing,and I deny the existence of any contract for which I have knowingly agreed to submit to the United States as a pagan procedural phantom any such presumption is hereby defeated .
The only one capable of such witness,This biological Son of The ALMIGHTY in God's name. I AM THAT I AM. Freedom Prayer original author unknown. the white rose




I AM THAT I AM THE WHITE ROSE, I STAND AS AN IMMORTAL SON OF THE IMMORTAL CREATOR, AND I RENOUNCE ALL WORKS OF THE EVIL ONES.
TO ALL, EVERY SO CALLED LAW SINCE MARCH 27 1861 THE DAY OF SINE DIE HAS NO FORCE AND EFFECT OF LAW AND IS ONLY COLOR OF LAW.SINCE THAT DAY WHEN DEMOCRACY AKA DEMAGOG- OCRACY AKA COMMUNISM OVER THREW THE REPUBLIC,THE REPUBLIC THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO USE DEMOCRATIC PRINCIPALS TO PROTECT THE UNALIENABLE RIGHTS OF THE INDIVIDUAL NOTHING COUNTS AS LAW.
I STAND AS A SON OF THE SOIL UNDER THE LAW OF THE LAND THE CONSTITUTION, AND UNDER THE GOLDEN RULE FOR WHICH IT UPHOLDS. I STAND AS A HUE-MAN A BE-ING OF LIGHT UNDER THE ONLY ONE WHO IS SOVEREIGN,THE ONE AND ONLY PARADISE CREATOR SON OF THE UNIVERSE OF NEBADON,THE MICHAEL OF SALVINGTON.
I HAVE NO ALLEGIANCE TO ANY UNLAWFUL GOVERNMENT OF MAN MADE RULES,REGULATIONS,STATUTES,CODES,ORDINANCES,OR PUBLIC POLICY THAT IS OPPOSED TO THE CONSTITUTION AND THE LAWS OF THE UNIVERSE .
I STAND AS AN IMMORTAL SON OF THE IMMORTAL CREATOR, AND I RENOUNCE ALL WORKS OF THE EVIL ONES.
I AM NOT DEFINED BY ANY OF THEIR WORDS OF SOPHISTRY ,I AM NOT A RES-IDENT ,MEANING A THING INDENTURED,A SLAVE TO GOVERNMENT.I AM NOT A PERSON AS THEY LEGALLY DEFINE PERSON,I AM NOT A CITIZEN OF THE FEDERAL CORPORATION .I AM A SON OF GOD AND SO ARE YOU. the white rose
Anonymous Coward
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10/13/2012 10:33 PM
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yarg harg fiddle dee dee

fellowearthling

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10/13/2012 10:34 PM
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Before you were a citizen of any country,
you are an Earthling... pretty cool, eh?
Natural law created humans.
Human nature created lawyers.
Anonymous Coward
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10/13/2012 10:45 PM
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I believe certain Indian Nations are their own.
HeltrSkeltr

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10/13/2012 10:54 PM
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Get on a boat and drift away. your time is up
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10/13/2012 11:00 PM
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Get on a boat and drift away. your time is up
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Dobie Gray?
Let Freedom Ring

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10/13/2012 11:06 PM
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Read Man Without a Country

Breathes there the man with soul so dead,
who never to himself hath said
this is my own, my native land.
Whose heart hath never within him burned
as home his footsteps he hath turned
from wantdering on a foreign strand?

If such there breathe, go mark him well
for him no minstrels raptures swell
High though his titles, proud him name
Boundless his wealth as wish can claim

Despite those titles, power, and pelf,
The wretch, concentered all in self,
Living, shall forfeit fair renown,
And, doubly dying, shall go down
To the vile dust from whence he sprung,
Unwept, unhonored , and unsung.
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10/13/2012 11:16 PM
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It would be easy to do, if you were serious about it. Buy a sailboat, stock it and set sail for one of the many uninhabited islands out there. Of course, you would really be on your own. Nobody to help you if you discover monsters are real in the night, or that aliens really do exist, etc.
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if i had the means i would have already done it
 Quoting: DPS


You can get a suitable boat for under 10K, if you know what you are looking for.

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