Is SEX or sexual thoughts/desires/etc. EVIL ?!?!?!?! | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 24950728 10/13/2012 01:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 25494022 10/13/2012 01:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 25479552 10/13/2012 01:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Open Your Eyes Alex Christopher Bickle User ID: 19607339 10/13/2012 01:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 25486451 10/13/2012 01:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 22089264 10/13/2012 01:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 25479552 10/13/2012 01:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 25493127 10/13/2012 01:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Rising Son We Are All Godlike Productions User ID: 24651721 10/13/2012 01:53 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | so then whats up with all these spiritualist saying sex is negative and takes away from life force, chi, purity of soul, etc? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22089264 I think that they are referring to a particular form of sex, that is one where the opposing person is seen as an object, and not a human being. There is always a difference between "making love" and "having sex". Truth needs no validation because it is self-evident and undeniable. Therefore, anything that requires validation to be realized or justified as truth must contain at least some degree of falsehood. Translation: Don't piss down my back and tell me its raining. |
| Renaissance Woman User ID: 10737781 10/13/2012 01:54 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Evil? No, my dear. Relax. As for the chi thing -- apparently it depends on whom you ask. A few weeks ago I had my regular acupuncture treatment, but it had been a stressful week with some anger-inducing incidents. The acupuncturist (a woman I've been going to for over 10 years) told me that I had a lot of angry liver chi rising, and that would mess with my head and emotions. I needed to kick it down and out (ground it, balance it, whatever), and the best way to start that process is satisfying sex. Get the liver chi to u-turn from the head to the belly region, and then keep it moving down. Whatever you say doc! Happy to follow this order! "For with thee is the fountain of life: in thy light shall we see light." |
| Lime Flavoured Redux User ID: 25422175 10/13/2012 01:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1430199 10/13/2012 02:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 22089264 10/13/2012 02:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So masterbation? Even if you are having sex with someone you dont see as am object and it is a fun, loving, relaxing, healthy for both people involved... what about the wasted life force in the semen that gives no life? Sex for pleasure alone seems it must have negative affects on spiritual energies |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1430199 10/13/2012 02:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So masterbation? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22089264 Even if you are having sex with someone you dont see as am object and it is a fun, loving, relaxing, healthy for both people involved... what about the wasted life force in the semen that gives no life? Sex for pleasure alone seems it must have negative affects on spiritual energies You should be able to use the search function and find 40 zillion pages on the topic already. |
| RDprofessor User ID: 19614366 10/13/2012 02:13 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If you are a Christian, your sexual acts are only supposed to take place with a consecrated marriage in order to avoid sin. All sexual acts outside of consecrated marriage are sin. This is pretty basic, and based upon the example of Adam and Eve, and fidelity to a spouse, as God/Jesus is fidelity to His people. Sects in history sometimes went too far and said all sex was evil, even within marriage. Examples include Manicheans, Albigensians and Cathars. As long as God wants us to continue being present in the physical matter form, even if our current state is a condition of Original Sin, we must mate to reproduce. Still, the pleasure of sexuality is only to be enjoyed within a consecrated marriage. It's really not that complicated. Holy men and women who are God's Children do not pursue sex in order to fulfill their basest animal appetities. Lust of the flesh will bring you to your grave, dust begets dust. Love of the Spirit begets spiritual life which is granted, not achieved, through Grace. |
| Renaissance Woman User ID: 10737781 10/13/2012 02:18 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is pretty basic, and based upon the example of Adam and Eve, and fidelity to a spouse, as God/Jesus is fidelity to Quoting: RDprofessor His people. I'm not trying to be a smarty pants, but if Adam and Eve were the only humans at the time, then how could they be unfaithful? Just asking. "For with thee is the fountain of life: in thy light shall we see light." |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 23999445 10/13/2012 02:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 24953504 10/13/2012 02:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 22089264 10/13/2012 02:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What I am trying to get at is that if you are trying to seek a spiritual path, or to raise the spiritual energy within than most likely sexual acts and desires beyond real love would be negative for the development of stronger spiritual energy? Correct? But, even still the sexual energy must go somewhere? |
| KimmieAnnaJones User ID: 10039683 10/13/2012 02:34 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What I am trying to get at is that if you are trying to seek a spiritual path, or to raise the spiritual energy within Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22089264 than most likely sexual acts and desires beyond real love would be negative for the development of stronger spiritual energy? Correct? But, even still the sexual energy must go somewhere? Rising Son has it right. Just having sex can bring on negative energy but making love can actually help with spiritual energy, especially if you conceive. "Holy, holy, holy is the Lord God Almighty, who was, and is, and is to come." |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 14933573 10/13/2012 02:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| gus User ID: 25486451 10/13/2012 02:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What I am trying to get at is that if you are trying to seek a spiritual path, or to raise the spiritual energy within Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22089264 than most likely sexual acts and desires beyond real love would be negative for the development of stronger spiritual energy? Correct? But, even still the sexual energy must go somewhere? pretty much sexual act is not evil in and unto itself. it's the intention during sex that matters the most. people look for easy ways to relieve (release) the pressure of their hard-earned stored energy instead of cultivating it, and sex fits like a glove in this equation, because sex releases a lot of energy. A lot of energy is set into motion, the sexual act shakes the whole system into life, but then what happens? Physical orgasm! THe powerful energy leaves the body. For some people this is of no consequence, but for spiritual aspirants it's like death. The trick is to set the energy into motion (with sex and/or exercises) but move it upward and inside instead of backward and outside. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1372987 10/13/2012 02:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is pretty basic, and based upon the example of Adam and Eve, and fidelity to a spouse, as God/Jesus is fidelity to Quoting: RDprofessor His people. I'm not trying to be a smarty pants, but if Adam and Eve were the only humans at the time, then how could they be unfaithful? Just asking. there must have been other humans around then that doesn't mean they were unfaithful |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1372987 10/13/2012 02:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is pretty basic, and based upon the example of Adam and Eve, and fidelity to a spouse, as God/Jesus is fidelity to Quoting: RDprofessor His people. I'm not trying to be a smarty pants, but if Adam and Eve were the only humans at the time, then how could they be unfaithful? Just asking. there must have been other humans around then that doesn't mean they were unfaithful |
| Bitterblue User ID: 20693035 10/13/2012 03:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My husband and I have sex all of the time, several times a day sometimes. I don't want kids, he doesn't want kids. We make love because we love each other; we do it so much because we enjoy it. We're not trying to make babies. I don't see anything wrong with it. Everything can be taken to the extreme and it boils down to context. Is it evil or wrong to go down on my husband in the car on the way to Target? Did that this morning. He didn't make me, or even asked me - I wanted to. I love the man. I don't see that as evil. How could it be? If I swallowed, is that evil? I did; always do. Actions and thoughts aren't evil, per se. It's intent, I think. As long as you're not hurting anyone, including yourself, there's not an issue. Last Edited by Bitterblue on 10/13/2012 03:12 PM |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 6657276 10/13/2012 03:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is pretty basic, and based upon the example of Adam and Eve, and fidelity to a spouse, as God/Jesus is fidelity to Quoting: RDprofessor His people. I'm not trying to be a smarty pants, but if Adam and Eve were the only humans at the time, then how could they be unfaithful? Just asking. there must have been other humans around then that doesn't mean they were unfaithful I think Eve was unfaithful because she used the snake to masturbate with. |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 22089264 10/13/2012 03:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My husband and I have sex all of the time, several times a day sometimes. I don't want kids, he doesn't want kids. We make love because we love each other; we do it so much because we enjoy it. We're not trying to make babies. I don't see anything wrong with it. Quoting: Bitterblue Everything can be taken to the extreme and it boils down to context. Is it evil or wrong to go down on my husband in the car on the way to Target? Did that this morning. He didn't make me, or even asked me - I wanted to. I love the man. I don't see that as evil. How could it be? If I swallowed, is that evil? I did; always do. Actions and thoughts aren't evil, per se. It's intent, I think. As long as you're not hurting anyone, including yourself, there's not an issue. yeah, im not really addressing everyday kind of sex and stuff... but it's spiritual affect trying to maintain strong spiritual energy |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 24857047 10/13/2012 03:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | so then whats up with all these spiritualist saying sex is negative and takes away from life force, chi, purity of soul, etc? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22089264 traditional chinese medicine teaches us that TOO MUCH sex depletes jing (kinda like qi) but it also teaches that too little is also unhealthy. its teaches that for a teeneager 5 times a week ejaculating is perfectly healthy. but for a 50 year old man this would drain 'jing' & cause health problems. but OP im curious to know which spiritualist are saying this? becuase most spiritual practices i know of, teach that a healthy sex life is essential to maintain good health. |
| Bitterblue User ID: 20693035 10/13/2012 03:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My husband and I have sex all of the time, several times a day sometimes. I don't want kids, he doesn't want kids. We make love because we love each other; we do it so much because we enjoy it. We're not trying to make babies. I don't see anything wrong with it. Quoting: Bitterblue Everything can be taken to the extreme and it boils down to context. Is it evil or wrong to go down on my husband in the car on the way to Target? Did that this morning. He didn't make me, or even asked me - I wanted to. I love the man. I don't see that as evil. How could it be? If I swallowed, is that evil? I did; always do. Actions and thoughts aren't evil, per se. It's intent, I think. As long as you're not hurting anyone, including yourself, there's not an issue. yeah, im not really addressing everyday kind of sex and stuff... but it's spiritual affect trying to maintain strong spiritual energy I understand. I was trying to show that my husband and I do have a strong spiritual energy and it's not to procreate. It's a bond between us. We are both spiritual people, while we don't have a label for our beliefs, we do live a positive life. Sex, for us is a part of that. Our sexual thoughts and desires, and acts, are with and for each other. We're both very positive people. |
| Bitterblue User ID: 20693035 10/13/2012 03:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |