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why does getting older means getting less women?

 
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why does getting older means getting less women?
26 years old here

when I was in college, i got pussies like sand on a beach.


Nowadays its fucking hard to even approach them, with all that social circle crap. Im too old for the 16-17 yo girls and too young for the 28-30. And I dont know if I could go along with a girl in my age.

any advice out there where to find decent women? Does europe have something like date-groups (parties) like they do in america?

cheers
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Re: why does getting older means getting less women?
and i do look decent, i have a nice full manly beard. I look better than in my college times.
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Re: why does getting older means getting less women?
Talking about material "Never mind the width feel the quality".

Talking about women "Never mind how many feel the depth of your emotion"
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Re: why does getting older means getting less women?
ah, a beard eh?

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Re: why does getting older means getting less women?
Talking about material "Never mind the width feel the quality".

Talking about women "Never mind how many feel the depth of your emotion"
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I agree but I told myself not to fall in love anymore. It sucks too much
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and i do look decent, i have a nice full manly beard. I look better than in my college times.
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I'm pretty sure the reason you cannot find a woman is tied up within the words of this post.
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Re: why does getting older means getting less women?
and i do look decent, i have a nice full manly beard. I look better than in my college times.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25479552


I'm pretty sure the reason you cannot find a woman is tied up within the words of this post.
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putin whats wrong with looking good with a beard? Wtf?
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Re: why does getting older means getting less women?
and i do look decent, i have a nice full manly beard. I look better than in my college times.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25479552


get rid of the beard

and you don't know how hard it is when your 10 years more so get going and get the pussy before you are 55 ... time passes
get the f. beard off and however you like to look look that way but do it good
and then write another post when your like 40 like me and is totally fucked not left with much pussy.... or get some money that is always better no matter whats your age.. the girls today are... well i think i will stop the post here. i just had enough not that i can't get any anymore i just finds it less interesting for all the trouble it brings with it.. also it costs money just to eat a hotdog with somebody and i aint got a dime
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and i do look decent, i have a nice full manly beard. I look better than in my college times.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25479552


You waited too late to get married.

The college whores have matured and are looking for someone stable to take care of them for life.

The nice girls have already married and are not out looking for a playmate.

Your only hope is to wade into the pool of divorcees and hope to make a diamond out of someone else's trash.

Hope you like raising someone else's kids too...


Have a nice life.
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and i do look decent, i have a nice full manly beard. I look better than in my college times.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25479552


get rid of the beard

and you don't know how hard it is when your 10 years more so get going and get the pussy before you are 55 ... time passes
get the f. beard off and however you like to look look that way but do it good
and then write another post when your like 40 like me and is totally fucked not left with much pussy.... or get some money that is always better no matter whats your age.. the girls today are... well i think i will stop the post here. i just had enough not that i can't get any anymore i just finds it less interesting for all the trouble it brings with it.. also it costs money just to eat a hotdog with somebody and i aint got a dime
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17931651


Well im sorry to hear about what happend to you.

I never payed any cent for a girl. you should try that, too

And what the fuck is wrong with a beard if you look good with it?

and i do look decent, i have a nice full manly beard. I look better than in my college times.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25479552


You waited too late to get married.

The college whores have matured and are looking for someone stable to take care of them for life.

The nice girls have already married and are not out looking for a playmate.

Your only hope is to wade into the pool of divorcees and hope to make a diamond out of someone else's trash.

Hope you like raising someone else's kids too...


Have a nice life.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22874455


since when is it normal to marry in the early 20s?

I dont know about america, but here its not like that.
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and i do look decent, i have a nice full manly beard. I look better than in my college times.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25479552


You waited too late to get married.

The college whores have matured and are looking for someone stable to take care of them for life.

The nice girls have already married and are not out looking for a playmate.

Your only hope is to wade into the pool of divorcees and hope to make a diamond out of someone else's trash.

Hope you like raising someone else's kids too...


Have a nice life.
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true...

what a sick world

so get the fuck going you are only 26 you can catch the bus if you hijack it at the next stop..

and all you young tards out there.. go for it and get the girls before they are long gone faster than a blink of an eye
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and i do look decent, i have a nice full manly beard. I look better than in my college times.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25479552


You waited too late to get married.

The college whores have matured and are looking for someone stable to take care of them for life.

The nice girls have already married and are not out looking for a playmate.

Your only hope is to wade into the pool of divorcees and hope to make a diamond out of someone else's trash.

Hope you like raising someone else's kids too...


Have a nice life.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22874455


true...

what a sick world

so get the fuck going you are only 26 you can catch the bus if you hijack it at the next stop..

and all you young tards out there.. go for it and get the girls before they are long gone faster than a blink of an eye
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holy shit you both sound fucking depressing.

Well yes i want to enjoy a lot of pussies but I dont know where and how? Any advice?
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Good grief you're only 26. You've still got time left.


And there's nothing wrong with a beard if it looks good on you. My husband wears a beard most of the time. Just keep it groomed.
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Re: why does getting older means getting less women?
and i do look decent, i have a nice full manly beard. I look better than in my college times.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25479552


get rid of the beard

and you don't know how hard it is when your 10 years more so get going and get the pussy before you are 55 ... time passes
get the f. beard off and however you like to look look that way but do it good
and then write another post when your like 40 like me and is totally fucked not left with much pussy.... or get some money that is always better no matter whats your age.. the girls today are... well i think i will stop the post here. i just had enough not that i can't get any anymore i just finds it less interesting for all the trouble it brings with it.. also it costs money just to eat a hotdog with somebody and i aint got a dime
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17931651


Well im sorry to hear about what happend to you.

I never payed any cent for a girl. you should try that, too

And what the fuck is wrong with a beard if you look good with it?

and i do look decent, i have a nice full manly beard. I look better than in my college times.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25479552


You waited too late to get married.

The college whores have matured and are looking for someone stable to take care of them for life.

The nice girls have already married and are not out looking for a playmate.


































































Your only hope is to wade into the pool of divorcees and hope to make a diamond out of someone else's trash.

Hope you like raising someone else's kids too...


Have a nice life.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22874455


since when is it normal to marry in the early 20s?

I dont know about america, but here its not like that.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25479552


If you do have a very nice beard and you cut it every day it might be ok for most girls... otherwise just get rid of it

i never paid for a girl.. not like that.. but lots of bitches likes you for the money.. more flashing means more friends means more party more girls etc..

what happened to me...

well i got into 5 relationships since i was young and now finding i spend all the time making other people happy but not really myself... I look like a movie star but i never found out how to make it, now im getting old and i don't care about sex any more, its like if somebody gives you a cake with salt enough times you start not liking cakes..

but the most stupid thing is that the less i care or look at girls the more they care and look for/at me... WTF... For the first time in my life i don't even look at them and i feel so fucking good about it, if they want something we can talk about it but i really don't care about any girl looking hot, they have to fall in love with me or they can just keep on doing their daily shit whatever that is
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Re: why does getting older means getting less women?
Good grief you're only 26. You've still got time left.


And there's nothing wrong with a beard if it looks good on you. My husband wears a beard most of the time. Just keep it groomed.
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thanks!

i know but it feels like time is running out.. Had some sort of thing going on with a 19 yo good looking girl a few weeks ago. Turned out she decided to date another guy younger than me (same age as her). Sucked big time for me.
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only if you are poor, broke or not famous...
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If you do have a very nice beard and you cut it every day it might be ok for most girls... otherwise just get rid of it

i never paid for a girl.. not like that.. but lots of bitches likes you for the money.. more flashing means more friends means more party more girls etc..

what happened to me...

well i got into 5 relationships since i was young and now finding i spend all the time making other people happy but not really myself... I look like a movie star but i never found out how to make it, now im getting old and i don't care about sex any more, its like if somebody gives you a cake with salt enough times you start not liking cakes..

but the most stupid thing is that the less i care or look at girls the more they care and look for/at me... WTF... For the first time in my life i don't even look at them and i feel so fucking good about it, if they want something we can talk about it but i really don't care about any girl looking hot, they have to fall in love with me or they can just keep on doing their daily shit whatever that is
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17931651


This is like the most saddest thing I've ever read. But If you look like a movie star you can still make it.

bitches only care if you don't give a shit; its this alpha thing.

So you think that getting older makes you get less girls or more?
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Good grief you're only 26. You've still got time left.


And there's nothing wrong with a beard if it looks good on you. My husband wears a beard most of the time. Just keep it groomed.
 Quoting: Guenwyfar


thanks!

i know but it feels like time is running out.. Had some sort of thing going on with a 19 yo good looking girl a few weeks ago. Turned out she decided to date another guy younger than me (same age as her). Sucked big time for me.
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Its like you are always in the wrong age.. or was for me.. When i was young the materialistic girls liked older guys, when i got old the newly feminist liberated girls liked other girls or young guys..

so fuck the society and the tv and all that crap and fuck those decides what is in and what is not

if you give a fuck about others and about the girls and about your age you will make it and that is tomorrow

if you care about anything like that shit with the younger guy you will not catch the pussy train, please catch it, -I wish you luck!
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Re: why does getting older means getting less women?
Good grief you're only 26. You've still got time left.


And there's nothing wrong with a beard if it looks good on you. My husband wears a beard most of the time. Just keep it groomed.
 Quoting: Guenwyfar


thanks!

i know but it feels like time is running out.. Had some sort of thing going on with a 19 yo good looking girl a few weeks ago. Turned out she decided to date another guy younger than me (same age as her). Sucked big time for me.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25479552


Its like you are always in the wrong age.. or was for me.. When i was young the materialistic girls liked older guys, when i got old the newly feminist liberated girls liked other girls or young guys..

so fuck the society and the tv and all that crap and fuck those decides what is in and what is not

if you give a fuck about others and about the girls and about your age you will make it and that is tomorrow

if you care about anything like that shit with the younger guy you will not catch the pussy train, please catch it, -I wish you luck!
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I feel the same. Alwas as if I had the wrong age. FUCK IT!! thanks danish dude!
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only if you are poor, broke or not famous...
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thats true..
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If you do have a very nice beard and you cut it every day it might be ok for most girls... otherwise just get rid of it

i never paid for a girl.. not like that.. but lots of bitches likes you for the money.. more flashing means more friends means more party more girls etc..

what happened to me...

well i got into 5 relationships since i was young and now finding i spend all the time making other people happy but not really myself... I look like a movie star but i never found out how to make it, now im getting old and i don't care about sex any more, its like if somebody gives you a cake with salt enough times you start not liking cakes..

but the most stupid thing is that the less i care or look at girls the more they care and look for/at me... WTF... For the first time in my life i don't even look at them and i feel so fucking good about it, if they want something we can talk about it but i really don't care about any girl looking hot, they have to fall in love with me or they can just keep on doing their daily shit whatever that is
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17931651


This is like the most saddest thing I've ever read. But If you look like a movie star you can still make it.

bitches only care if you don't give a shit; its this alpha thing.

So you think that getting older makes you get less girls or more?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25479552


getting older makes my get less girls for i like them less and less.. im sorry.. i like a girl as a friend but as a sexual partner they mostly let me down bigtime. A young girl like 20 would fit me nice sexually and mentally but its out of fashion for old guys with younger girls even it was the norm just 50 years ago so i guess that not possible these days..
I'm OK i have a friend who is female and we hug and sleep together without having sex and it is actually better than a sad heart or an STD, and I know she likes me, likes me so much or so little she is not killing me as usually

No I can't make it, even I look like a magnet on girls as soon as I start saying anything or getting to know them its all over.. I just lost the will and the money to do it, I work 15hrs a day, 7 days a week and if I need somebody that somebody have to support me and these girls today are not the giving kind, when you come home you'd had to cook for them even you worked that hard and after that you will get no pussy but maybe tomorrow...

There IS other things in life than Sex, its just that you have to spend half your life and that shit before you appreciate very different things than that..

There is no room for a guy who stands alone and will never surrender to the mass manipulated mass, he is the enemy of their "social" engineering for he has his own beliefs and his own moral.. therefore they have done anything to destroy anything that could be to his benefit and that includes any kind of love fun or normal female behavior.. Of course this still exists but compared to our whole history there has never been a worse time for decent people and well functional love relationships, even sex is not an easy commodity anymore, before when people had less money a kiss or a good friend could help in the cold winter, -nowadays their friend is the "social" state benefit check dumping in every month
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Good grief you're only 26. You've still got time left.


And there's nothing wrong with a beard if it looks good on you. My husband wears a beard most of the time. Just keep it groomed.
 Quoting: Guenwyfar


thanks!

i know but it feels like time is running out.. Had some sort of thing going on with a 19 yo good looking girl a few weeks ago. Turned out she decided to date another guy younger than me (same age as her). Sucked big time for me.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25479552


Um, because she's NINETEEN! Lol! Don't look for highschool and college girls. Keyword: girls. Not women. You want a woman, go somewhere other than the nearest campus.

Just a thought- if you can find groups/clubs, even online, that are centered around your interests you might find someone there. You'll even already have things in common with them.

Last Edited by Guenwyfar on 10/13/2012 02:37 PM
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"Religion is like a penis, it's fine to have one and be proud of it, but when you take it out and wave it in my face, that's when we have a problem."
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I bag 18 year old chicks all the time. Just carry around a roll of 100's and wear a nice watch. That's seriously all it takes if you're in good shape.

Nice tight shit. Minimal diseases. And since they are just going for the money it's okay to use them as a sperm urinal and then move on to her friends.
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and i do look decent, i have a nice full manly beard. I look better than in my college times.
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I'm pretty sure the reason you cannot find a woman is tied up within the words of this post.
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Ya think?

I know guys three times OP's age that are still chick magnets.

To OP:

It's all in how you carry yourself, the words you use, and, how you treat people.

If your only goal is "getting women," you're, ahem, screwed, before you even begin. Pun intended.

Women want a nice guy. First impressions are important. We can certainly take the time to get to know you, but, we're much less inclined to even speak to you, if the vibe you're giving off is someone on the prowl, to 'get laid.'

If you spot a nice gal, making eye contact from a distance with the faintest of smiles, to show her you might be interested.

If you're sitting at the bar quietly WITHOUT CHATTING UP other women, this will give her the chance to come to the bar to "get her next drink" somewhat close to you.

If she looks over to you while waiting, and smiles back, you could get the bartender's attention for her, perhaps even ask him to inform the lady that 'the gentleman over there would like to buy you a drink.'

Whatever happens from that point on will tell you if your new approach is a better one.

Now, if she comes right over to you and asks if you want to buy her a drink, know that this one could be trouble. She's possibly looking for a sugar-daddy, and will expect you to keep upping the ante.

This can work in all sorts of places, although it would probably take time. As long as the woman you have your eye on can see that you are occasionally smiling her way, keeping your distance, while you're 'busy' doing something else, like reading a paper or book, chatting with buddies - all innocent and safe things, you are likely to intrigue her. Her smile will tell you if you have a rat's chance in hell.

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Your opening statement was crass, yet, you've gone on to nicely say that you would like to meet a DECENT girl.

They are everywhere. On buses, on trains, walking to work along side you.

And, why do you think that someone a few years older is TOO old? Think of it this way: she's probably had a few more years of disappointment than you.

My husband was two years younger than I, yet, we were a perfect match. Don't let such a simple misunderstanding spoil your chances for happiness.

Remember: good things come to those who wait. Just learn to be patient.

Good luck!

Last Edited by Esoteric Morgan on 10/13/2012 03:40 PM
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and i do look decent, i have a nice full manly beard. I look better than in my college times.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25479552


I'm pretty sure the reason you cannot find a woman is tied up within the words of this post.
 Quoting: The Light Under the Door


Ya think?

I know guys three times OP's age that are still chick magnets.

To OP:

It's all in how you carry yourself, the words you use, and, how you treat people.

If your only goal is "getting women," you're, ahem, screwed, before you even begin. Pun intended.

Women want a nice guy. First impressions are important. We can certainly take the time to get to know you, but, we're much less inclined to even speak to you, if the vibe you're giving off is someone on the prowl, to 'get laid.'

If you spot a nice gal, making eye contact from a distance with the faintest of smiles, to show her you might be interested.

If you're sitting at the bar quietly WITHOUT CHATTING UP other women, this will give her the chance to come to the bar to "get her next drink" somewhat close to you.

If she looks over to you while waiting, and smiles back, you could get the bartender's attention for her, perhaps even ask him to inform the lady that 'the gentleman over there would like to buy you a drink.'

Whatever happens from that point on will tell you if your new approach is a better one.

Now, if she comes right over to you and asks if you want to buy her a drink, know that this one could be trouble. She's possibly looking for a sugar-daddy, and will expect you to keep upping the ante.

This can work in all sorts of places, although it would probably take time. As long as the woman you have your eye on can see that you are occasionally smiling her way, keeping your distance, while you're 'busy' doing something else, like reading a paper or book, chatting with buddies - all innocent and safe things, you are likely to intrigue her. Her smile will tell you if you have a rat's chance in hell.

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Your opening statement was crass, yet, you've gone on to nicely say that you would like to meet a DECENT girl.

They are everywhere. On buses, on trains, walking to work along side you.

And, why do you think that someone a few years older is TOO old? Think of it this way: she's probably had a few more years of disappointment than you.

My husband was two years younger than I, yet, we were a perfect match. Don't let such a simple misunderstanding spoil your chances for happiness.

Remember: good things come to those who wait. Just learn to be patient.

Good luck!
 Quoting: Esoteric Morgan




He's not wanting A woman. He wants sex marathon. People with that attitude exude selfishness. People have to give in order to get.
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Ticking clock is only a problem for women and poor men.
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Ticking clock is only a problem for women and poor men.
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This. Women look for money and hard assets in older men. A renter with $10,000 in savings is not going to have women in his life if he is over 50.
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and i do look decent, i have a nice full manly beard. I look better than in my college times.
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I'm pretty sure the reason you cannot find a woman is tied up within the words of this post.
 Quoting: The Light Under the Door


Ya think?

I know guys three times OP's age that are still chick magnets.

To OP:

It's all in how you carry yourself, the words you use, and, how you treat people...

...Remember: good things come to those who wait. Just learn to be patient.

Good luck!
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He's not wanting A woman. He wants sex marathon. People with that attitude exude selfishness. People have to give in order to get.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25495152


I suspect that he really wants more.

At 26, he is already disillusioned...meaning, he has only gotten what he's asked for until now.

With a bit of a more mature attitude, he's discovering that whatever he's doing gets him nothing of substance.

The sowing of wild oats can be fun...as long as you don't leave a sea of broken dreams and hurtful schemes in its wake.

With the right attitude, one coming from the heart, OP could lose every hair on his face and hair and still be attractive to the right person.

It's not about how you look, it's about what emanates from you.

First, he has to stop defining women as just a 'pussy' playing field. Right there, he loses.

If he continues to do that, the only women he'll attract are one's who define him by whatever they can screw him out of.
Again, pun intended.
Esoteric Morgan
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10/13/2012 05:20 PM

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Re: why does getting older means getting less women?
Man, you guys are sad. I feel sorry for the games which appear to have been played on you, for you to see all women like that.

Note: we are not all like that. Problem is, most of us are not out on the prowl, so, you never get to meet us.
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10/13/2012 05:46 PM
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Re: why does getting older means getting less women?
26 years old here

when I was in college, i got pussies like sand on a beach.


Nowadays its fucking hard to even approach them, with all that social circle crap. Im too old for the 16-17 yo girls and too young for the 28-30. And I dont know if I could go along with a girl in my age.

any advice out there where to find decent women? Does europe have something like date-groups (parties) like they do in america?

cheers
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Plenty over 40 looking for a good time!!!! don't limit yourself!!

scheming
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10/13/2012 05:52 PM
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Re: why does getting older means getting less women?
You shitheads were told by a few people that you have to have a good income and hard assets to get women in your later years. Why is this topic still going? The reality is not going to change.

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