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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 24564664 Australia 10/13/2012 06:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Friend,would you mind if I said, I have been there where you have, I blamed God for my life being once so messed up, and then I had an open vision of a kind when Jesus was on the Cross and said, 'Father forgive them, for they know not what they do'. In tears I heard myself thinking, imagine being on that Cross, the Saviour of the world that was about to experience the weight of the world's sins' upon Him, bleeding, in agony, being spat at and mocked, and even when asked for a drink, they gave Him vinegar; He could have called for ten thousand angels to come to His rescue, yet He didn't. I know now what held Him to the Cross for me, not the nails, it was His love. |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 24564664 Australia 10/13/2012 08:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Any time. But ya know, he never existed [link to video.bju.net] This gave me hope, I pray the one that feels the same, and yes, He is talking to you, will be greatly encouraged. 1 Corinthians 27 But God chose what the world considers nonsense in order to shame the wise; God chose what the world considers weak in order to shame the strong; |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 24564664 Australia 10/13/2012 08:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Any time. But ya know, he never existed [link to video.bju.net] This gave me hope, I pray the one that feels the same, and yes, He is talking to you, will be greatly encouraged. 1 Corinthians 27 But God chose what the world considers nonsense in order to shame the wise; God chose what the world considers weak in order to shame the strong; 1 Corinthians 1 - Matthew Henry Concise Commentary on the Whole Bible Chapter 1 The Corinthian church contained some Jews, but more Gentiles, and the apostle had to contend with the superstition of the one, and the sinful conduct of the other. The peace of this church was disturbed by false teachers, who undermined the influence of the apostle. Two parties were the result; one contending earnestly for the Jewish ceremonies, the other indulging in excesses contrary to the gospel, to which they were especially led by the luxury and the sins which prevailed around them. This epistle was written to rebuke some disorderly conduct, of which the apostle had been apprized, and to give advice as to some points whereon his judgment was requested by the Corinthians. Thus the scope was twofold. 1. To apply suitable remedies to the disorders and abuses which prevailed among them. 2. To give satisfactory answers on all the points upon which his advice had been desired. The address, and Christian mildness, yet firmness, with which the apostle writes, and goes on from general truths directly to oppose the errors and evil conduct of the Corinthians, is very remarkable. He states the truth and the will of God, as to various matters, with great force of argument and animation of style. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1528473 United States 10/13/2012 08:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This kind of theology is always wrong. There is no need for second chances. Once a person is saved, they STAY saved. You make it sound as though God gives you the gift, then, if you wander of on your own for a while, he gets mad and takes His gift back. The God I believe in and worship isn't an Indian giver. You really should look into Eternal Security. |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 24564664 Australia 10/13/2012 08:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This kind of theology is always wrong. There is no need for second chances. Once a person is saved, they STAY saved. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1528473 You make it sound as though God gives you the gift, then, if you wander of on your own for a while, he gets mad and takes His gift back. The God I believe in and worship isn't an Indian giver. You really should look into Eternal Security. Does legalistic words work for you always? Romans 5:5, yes, the love of God, is a gift. Where is Judas? Jesus isn't harsh, hard or pressing, He is love - apply it more often. 'Bees come to honey, not vinegar' |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 24564664 Australia 10/13/2012 08:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In Ecclesiastes, it says, 'there is a time for everything under the sun'. Our lives and all of creation are seasonal - thank goodness God gave someone the inspiration to create electricity - or do you think it wasn't necessary? When you meet Him one day; ask Him that question, not me, I could not even dare to answer it adequately. I am human, and flawed, that is why I am so blessed to know a perfect God. Blessings |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1528473 United States 10/13/2012 08:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This kind of theology is always wrong. There is no need for second chances. Once a person is saved, they STAY saved. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1528473 You make it sound as though God gives you the gift, then, if you wander of on your own for a while, he gets mad and takes His gift back. The God I believe in and worship isn't an Indian giver. You really should look into Eternal Security. Does legalistic words work for you always? Romans 5:5, yes, the love of God, is a gift. Where is Judas? Jesus isn't harsh, hard or pressing, He is love - apply it more often. 'Bees come to honey, not vinegar' Legalistic? Because I used the word "theology"? Anyway, there's nothing legalistic in what I wrote. If anything, it's your "beliefs" that a saved person can put themselves into jeopardy because they aren't currently engaged with church activities or what not, is simply false teaching. We are saved by grace, and not of ourselves, lest we should boast. That means that ALL one has to do in his or her life to be saved for ETERNITY is to accept Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior. Period! That's it! As Jesus said, "It is Finished!" Your "beliefs", which are very mainstream, by the way, which doesn't really bode well for what the "churches" are teaching, and I don't claim to teach myself, but when I heard the news that all I had to do was to BELIEVE (JOHN 3:16), I'm not going to listen to any MAN tell me that I can lose the gift God promised me. Your beliefs are used to frighten people and to make them feel that if they do some stupid little thing, they are in big trouble and might not go to heaven. That can lead to all kinds of personal issues and worries. I'm sorry, you probably just are not aware, but this is not "honey", but the most bitter of vinegar. Go after the lost, but thinking you are holier than some other person who has already received he gift of eternal life, and that they need your help back onto the path, that's not going to turn anyone on to the truth. |
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Theslcguy User ID: 25517547 United States 10/13/2012 09:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If he can show me he's real (doesn't have to be physical) then I'll reconsider, till then I do doubt his existence, if we have this freewill, and we can make our own choices, and the gods cannot interfere in our lives in anyway, and I give up my freewill, and ask god that i want to serve him, he can have my freewill, and I will do his blessing, and yet he still does nothing... I still doubt his existence, yes i made some bad mistakes in my life, though why can he not show me he is there? I bent on me knees, asking for help, forgiveness, and even broke into tears, ask and you shall receive, and yet he does nothing... I doubt his existence. thats why people do not believe in him, because if he loves us, he wouldn't let us take our own lives. If he does exist i wish the second coming would be here today. This world is shit(ake mushrooms), and TPTB make it worse every year. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 24564664 Australia 10/13/2012 10:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This kind of theology is always wrong. There is no need for second chances. Once a person is saved, they STAY saved. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1528473 You make it sound as though God gives you the gift, then, if you wander of on your own for a while, he gets mad and takes His gift back. The God I believe in and worship isn't an Indian giver. You really should look into Eternal Security. Does legalistic words work for you always? Romans 5:5, yes, the love of God, is a gift. Where is Judas? Jesus isn't harsh, hard or pressing, He is love - apply it more often. 'Bees come to honey, not vinegar' Legalistic? Because I used the word "theology"? Anyway, there's nothing legalistic in what I wrote. If anything, it's your "beliefs" that a saved person can put themselves into jeopardy because they aren't currently engaged with church activities or what not, is simply false teaching. We are saved by grace, and not of ourselves, lest we should boast. That means that ALL one has to do in his or her life to be saved for ETERNITY is to accept Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior. Period! That's it! As Jesus said, "It is Finished!" Your "beliefs", which are very mainstream, by the way, which doesn't really bode well for what the "churches" are teaching, and I don't claim to teach myself, but when I heard the news that all I had to do was to BELIEVE (JOHN 3:16), I'm not going to listen to any MAN tell me that I can lose the gift God promised me. Your beliefs are used to frighten people and to make them feel that if they do some stupid little thing, they are in big trouble and might not go to heaven. That can lead to all kinds of personal issues and worries. I'm sorry, you probably just are not aware, but this is not "honey", but the most bitter of vinegar. Go after the lost, but thinking you are holier than some other person who has already received he gift of eternal life, and that they need your help back onto the path, that's not going to turn anyone on to the truth. Sad, very sad. God must be on holidays and passed you His responsibility to deliver 'thus sayeth the Lord' - arrogance. I am happy you have come to understand His grace; surely the kind He showed to the woman at the well, or the woman caught in adultery. Wonder what he wrote in the sand that day? We are to be Holy, as He is - grace is one thing, reflecting who we take after is another; how well do you measure up? I fail, daily. Thats why we need a Saviour - not a servant that is argumentative and divisive because 'they' have a supposed one shoe fits all revelation and understanding. Did Jesus heal the same way all the time? Of course not, but He DID say He was the healer, and through us, healing can come by encouragement. Whose child are you? Even Satan quote the scriptures. Be careful, I needed to remember that in my early days of getting to know Him. Ever been on a prodigal road? Remember how the son (a type of us) only wanted to return home because he was hungry - do you think God didn't know that? In any case, 'He RAN, the father of the son (a type of Christ), all he cared about was what was lost, was found. Can I let you know something I am reminded of each morning by Him 'never forget the condition you were in when I found you, else puffed up may come (Satan's tricks); He knew when I was lost,where I was lost and how to find me again. This thread it to encourage others - take your arumentative spirit away, please. Blessings We are His ears, eyes and words, its the very reason the Lord came in person, to show us Him, not you. |
Libra II User ID: 1001450 Denmark 10/13/2012 10:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This kind of theology is always wrong. There is no need for second chances. Once a person is saved, they STAY saved. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1528473 You make it sound as though God gives you the gift, then, if you wander of on your own for a while, he gets mad and takes His gift back. The God I believe in and worship isn't an Indian giver. You really should look into Eternal Security. Does legalistic words work for you always? Romans 5:5, yes, the love of God, is a gift. Where is Judas? Jesus isn't harsh, hard or pressing, He is love - apply it more often. 'Bees come to honey, not vinegar' Legalistic? Because I used the word "theology"? Anyway, there's nothing legalistic in what I wrote. If anything, it's your "beliefs" that a saved person can put themselves into jeopardy because they aren't currently engaged with church activities or what not, is simply false teaching. We are saved by grace, and not of ourselves, lest we should boast. That means that ALL one has to do in his or her life to be saved for ETERNITY is to accept Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior. Period! That's it! As Jesus said, "It is Finished!" Your "beliefs", which are very mainstream, by the way, which doesn't really bode well for what the "churches" are teaching, and I don't claim to teach myself, but when I heard the news that all I had to do was to BELIEVE (JOHN 3:16), I'm not going to listen to any MAN tell me that I can lose the gift God promised me. Your beliefs are used to frighten people and to make them feel that if they do some stupid little thing, they are in big trouble and might not go to heaven. That can lead to all kinds of personal issues and worries. I'm sorry, you probably just are not aware, but this is not "honey", but the most bitter of vinegar. Go after the lost, but thinking you are holier than some other person who has already received he gift of eternal life, and that they need your help back onto the path, that's not going to turn anyone on to the truth. Sad, very sad. God must be on holidays and passed you His responsibility to deliver 'thus sayeth the Lord' - arrogance. I am happy you have come to understand His grace; surely the kind He showed to the woman at the well, or the woman caught in adultery. Wonder what he wrote in the sand that day? We are to be Holy, as He is - grace is one thing, reflecting who we take after is another; how well do you measure up? I fail, daily. Thats why we need a Saviour - not a servant that is argumentative and divisive because 'they' have a supposed one shoe fits all revelation and understanding. Did Jesus heal the same way all the time? Of course not, but He DID say He was the healer, and through us, healing can come by encouragement. Whose child are you? Even Satan quote the scriptures. Be careful, I needed to remember that in my early days of getting to know Him. Ever been on a prodigal road? Remember how the son (a type of us) only wanted to return home because he was hungry - do you think God didn't know that? In any case, 'He RAN, the father of the son (a type of Christ), all he cared about was what was lost, was found. Can I let you know something I am reminded of each morning by Him 'never forget the condition you were in when I found you, else puffed up may come (Satan's tricks); He knew when I was lost,where I was lost and how to find me again. This thread it to encourage others - take your arumentative spirit away, please. Blessings We are His ears, eyes and words, its the very reason the Lord came in person, to show us Him, not you. No, Paul came to show us his Christ version of Jesus. Jesus was ok, but he would have beat the crap out of the Paul bastard if he'd known what he was up to. |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 24564664 Australia 10/13/2012 10:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24564664 Does legalistic words work for you always? Romans 5:5, yes, the love of God, is a gift. Where is Judas? Jesus isn't harsh, hard or pressing, He is love - apply it more often. 'Bees come to honey, not vinegar' Legalistic? Because I used the word "theology"? Anyway, there's nothing legalistic in what I wrote. If anything, it's your "beliefs" that a saved person can put themselves into jeopardy because they aren't currently engaged with church activities or what not, is simply false teaching. We are saved by grace, and not of ourselves, lest we should boast. That means that ALL one has to do in his or her life to be saved for ETERNITY is to accept Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior. Period! That's it! As Jesus said, "It is Finished!" Your "beliefs", which are very mainstream, by the way, which doesn't really bode well for what the "churches" are teaching, and I don't claim to teach myself, but when I heard the news that all I had to do was to BELIEVE (JOHN 3:16), I'm not going to listen to any MAN tell me that I can lose the gift God promised me. Your beliefs are used to frighten people and to make them feel that if they do some stupid little thing, they are in big trouble and might not go to heaven. That can lead to all kinds of personal issues and worries. I'm sorry, you probably just are not aware, but this is not "honey", but the most bitter of vinegar. Go after the lost, but thinking you are holier than some other person who has already received he gift of eternal life, and that they need your help back onto the path, that's not going to turn anyone on to the truth. Sad, very sad. God must be on holidays and passed you His responsibility to deliver 'thus sayeth the Lord' - arrogance. I am happy you have come to understand His grace; surely the kind He showed to the woman at the well, or the woman caught in adultery. Wonder what he wrote in the sand that day? We are to be Holy, as He is - grace is one thing, reflecting who we take after is another; how well do you measure up? I fail, daily. Thats why we need a Saviour - not a servant that is argumentative and divisive because 'they' have a supposed one shoe fits all revelation and understanding. Did Jesus heal the same way all the time? Of course not, but He DID say He was the healer, and through us, healing can come by encouragement. Whose child are you? Even Satan quote the scriptures. Be careful, I needed to remember that in my early days of getting to know Him. Ever been on a prodigal road? Remember how the son (a type of us) only wanted to return home because he was hungry - do you think God didn't know that? In any case, 'He RAN, the father of the son (a type of Christ), all he cared about was what was lost, was found. Can I let you know something I am reminded of each morning by Him 'never forget the condition you were in when I found you, else puffed up may come (Satan's tricks); He knew when I was lost,where I was lost and how to find me again. This thread it to encourage others - take your arumentative spirit away, please. Blessings We are His ears, eyes and words, its the very reason the Lord came in person, to show us Him, not you. No, Paul came to show us his Christ version of Jesus. Jesus was ok, but he would have beat the crap out of the Paul bastard if he'd known what he was up to. Settle;am sure Jesus knew what He was doing,and who He chose when Paul was on the road to Damascus. Fancy that, the Lord using a murderer, persecutor and legalistic genuius of a Pharisee to become His greatest Evangelist. Wonder if the church realises this as often as we should when we look at people and say 'they're not going to make it', instead of childlike faithful encouraging prayer to Christ saying 'you did it for Paul, do it for them' Blessings |
Libra II User ID: 1001450 Denmark 10/13/2012 11:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1528473 Legalistic? Because I used the word "theology"? Anyway, there's nothing legalistic in what I wrote. If anything, it's your "beliefs" that a saved person can put themselves into jeopardy because they aren't currently engaged with church activities or what not, is simply false teaching. We are saved by grace, and not of ourselves, lest we should boast. That means that ALL one has to do in his or her life to be saved for ETERNITY is to accept Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior. Period! That's it! As Jesus said, "It is Finished!" Your "beliefs", which are very mainstream, by the way, which doesn't really bode well for what the "churches" are teaching, and I don't claim to teach myself, but when I heard the news that all I had to do was to BELIEVE (JOHN 3:16), I'm not going to listen to any MAN tell me that I can lose the gift God promised me. Your beliefs are used to frighten people and to make them feel that if they do some stupid little thing, they are in big trouble and might not go to heaven. That can lead to all kinds of personal issues and worries. I'm sorry, you probably just are not aware, but this is not "honey", but the most bitter of vinegar. Go after the lost, but thinking you are holier than some other person who has already received he gift of eternal life, and that they need your help back onto the path, that's not going to turn anyone on to the truth. Sad, very sad. God must be on holidays and passed you His responsibility to deliver 'thus sayeth the Lord' - arrogance. I am happy you have come to understand His grace; surely the kind He showed to the woman at the well, or the woman caught in adultery. Wonder what he wrote in the sand that day? We are to be Holy, as He is - grace is one thing, reflecting who we take after is another; how well do you measure up? I fail, daily. Thats why we need a Saviour - not a servant that is argumentative and divisive because 'they' have a supposed one shoe fits all revelation and understanding. Did Jesus heal the same way all the time? Of course not, but He DID say He was the healer, and through us, healing can come by encouragement. Whose child are you? Even Satan quote the scriptures. Be careful, I needed to remember that in my early days of getting to know Him. Ever been on a prodigal road? Remember how the son (a type of us) only wanted to return home because he was hungry - do you think God didn't know that? In any case, 'He RAN, the father of the son (a type of Christ), all he cared about was what was lost, was found. Can I let you know something I am reminded of each morning by Him 'never forget the condition you were in when I found you, else puffed up may come (Satan's tricks); He knew when I was lost,where I was lost and how to find me again. This thread it to encourage others - take your arumentative spirit away, please. Blessings We are His ears, eyes and words, its the very reason the Lord came in person, to show us Him, not you. No, Paul came to show us his Christ version of Jesus. Jesus was ok, but he would have beat the crap out of the Paul bastard if he'd known what he was up to. Settle;am sure Jesus knew what He was doing,and who He chose when Paul was on the road to Damascus. Fancy that, the Lord using a murderer, persecutor and legalistic genuius of a Pharisee to become His greatest Evangelist. Wonder if the church realises this as often as we should when we look at people and say 'they're not going to make it', instead of childlike faithful encouraging prayer to Christ saying 'you did it for Paul, do it for them' Blessings No blessings required. Paul was a liar, a bastard and a pig, and his lying pig bastard Judas of a friend Luke helped him. |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 24564664 Australia 10/14/2012 04:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24564664 Sad, very sad. God must be on holidays and passed you His responsibility to deliver 'thus sayeth the Lord' - arrogance. I am happy you have come to understand His grace; surely the kind He showed to the woman at the well, or the woman caught in adultery. Wonder what he wrote in the sand that day? We are to be Holy, as He is - grace is one thing, reflecting who we take after is another; how well do you measure up? I fail, daily. Thats why we need a Saviour - not a servant that is argumentative and divisive because 'they' have a supposed one shoe fits all revelation and understanding. Did Jesus heal the same way all the time? Of course not, but He DID say He was the healer, and through us, healing can come by encouragement. Whose child are you? Even Satan quote the scriptures. Be careful, I needed to remember that in my early days of getting to know Him. Ever been on a prodigal road? Remember how the son (a type of us) only wanted to return home because he was hungry - do you think God didn't know that? In any case, 'He RAN, the father of the son (a type of Christ), all he cared about was what was lost, was found. Can I let you know something I am reminded of each morning by Him 'never forget the condition you were in when I found you, else puffed up may come (Satan's tricks); He knew when I was lost,where I was lost and how to find me again. This thread it to encourage others - take your arumentative spirit away, please. Blessings We are His ears, eyes and words, its the very reason the Lord came in person, to show us Him, not you. No, Paul came to show us his Christ version of Jesus. Jesus was ok, but he would have beat the crap out of the Paul bastard if he'd known what he was up to. Settle;am sure Jesus knew what He was doing,and who He chose when Paul was on the road to Damascus. Fancy that, the Lord using a murderer, persecutor and legalistic genuius of a Pharisee to become His greatest Evangelist. Wonder if the church realises this as often as we should when we look at people and say 'they're not going to make it', instead of childlike faithful encouraging prayer to Christ saying 'you did it for Paul, do it for them' Blessings No blessings required. Paul was a liar, a bastard and a pig, and his lying pig bastard Judas of a friend Luke helped him. So do you believe in Christ? at least? |
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