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Iran can amass a swarm of 10,000 speed boats with cruise missiles

 
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Do phalanx turrets not over heat? That seems to be what people make it out to be. Also would the apaches not be shot at? It sounds like a video game the way things are perfect in the US military.
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probably, maybe this can tell you more about that weapon system.
[link to www.dtic.mil]
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It's amazing how we're still bogged down in Afghanistan, fighting guys with camels and AK-47's, when we possess the most fantabulous wonder weapons on the orb.
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That's what happens every time you put soldiers into limited war or police actions. Make no mistake that given no political restraints the US military could utterly destroy the taliban.
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Yeah Yeah Yeah... big talk... we could win, were just not trying...

LOL
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speed boats will prolly be a diversion. fire 100 missiles at a carrier and how many will get through? 5-10? If one hits the deck we can't land or take off. Then we got a problem.....
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You better believe the USA will take many casualties by these speed boats if involved in a conflict. It will be just like stepping on a bees nest.
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You truly don't have any idea how powerful are naval weapons platforms are do you? Bees nest? Have you ever sprayed poison on a bees nest? The speed boats are and will always be a joke.
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Do phalanx turrets not over heat? That seems to be what people make it out to be. Also would the apaches not be shot at? It sounds like a video game the way things are perfect in the US military.
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That is what the typical on the street brainwashed American thinks. They watch these tv shows that make it sound like the govt can tell where you have been by a unique signature in your fart. Lol

Big technology can fall easily to low tech if done right.

The more high tech it is the easier it is to break by disrupting a single part.

For example... Anyone with a simple electronics and radio background would know it to be common sense that you could disrupt a drone by simply overwhelming the signal being sent to it by just using a high power transmitter... A series of them. Drones = useless without c&c
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probably, maybe this can tell you more about that weapon system.
[link to www.dtic.mil]
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It's amazing how we're still bogged down in Afghanistan, fighting guys with camels and AK-47's, when we possess the most fantabulous wonder weapons on the orb.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25388275


That's what happens every time you put soldiers into limited war or police actions. Make no mistake that given no political restraints the US military could utterly destroy the taliban.
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Yeah Yeah Yeah... big talk... we could win, were just not trying...

LOL
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2/3 of Pakiland would need to be hit.
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You better believe the USA will take many casualties by these speed boats if involved in a conflict. It will be just like stepping on a bees nest.
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You truly don't have any idea how powerful are naval weapons platforms are do you? Bees nest? Have you ever sprayed poison on a bees nest? The speed boats are and will always be a joke.
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So the "USS Cole" didnt happen or was unsucessful? what exactly are you trying to say?
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You better believe the USA will take many casualties by these speed boats if involved in a conflict. It will be just like stepping on a bees nest.
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You truly don't have any idea how powerful are naval weapons platforms are do you? Bees nest? Have you ever sprayed poison on a bees nest? The speed boats are and will always be a joke.
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Why did everyone stop building those unsinkable battleships?

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amazing how a 99 cent space blanket can defeat a $50,000 thermal imaging system.....
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Re: Iran can amass a swarm of 10,000 speed boats with cruise missiles
You better believe the USA will take many casualties by these speed boats if involved in a conflict. It will be just like stepping on a bees nest.
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You truly don't have any idea how powerful are naval weapons platforms are do you? Bees nest? Have you ever sprayed poison on a bees nest? The speed boats are and will always be a joke.
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So the "USS Cole" didnt happen or was unsucessful? what exactly are you trying to say?
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The Cole was docked. Big difference.
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Re: Iran can amass a swarm of 10,000 speed boats with cruise missiles
You better believe the USA will take many casualties by these speed boats if involved in a conflict. It will be just like stepping on a bees nest.
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You truly don't have any idea how powerful are naval weapons platforms are do you? Bees nest? Have you ever sprayed poison on a bees nest? The speed boats are and will always be a joke.
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So the "USS Cole" didnt happen or was unsucessful? what exactly are you trying to say?
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The Cole was docked. Big difference.
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And never happened since.
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Re: Iran can amass a swarm of 10,000 speed boats with cruise missiles
You better believe the USA will take many casualties by these speed boats if involved in a conflict. It will be just like stepping on a bees nest.
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You truly don't have any idea how powerful are naval weapons platforms are do you? Bees nest? Have you ever sprayed poison on a bees nest? The speed boats are and will always be a joke.
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So the "USS Cole" didnt happen or was unsucessful? what exactly are you trying to say?
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putin FFS

only a fucktard on GLP would make this comparison.

are you really comparing a terrorist attack on a docked vessel to a war time battle?
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Re: Iran can amass a swarm of 10,000 speed boats with cruise missiles
To the brainwashed sheeple who dont apprehend the meaning of the word asymmetrical warfare, carriers and such crap belong to the dinasour period and are technically Obsolete like it or not.
One missile costing 100 thousand dollars can shot a plan/tank that costs millions of dollars.

Regarding the Iranian technology, the latset hit was the drone that flew all over the Israeli defences without being discovered.

The drone flew past the unifil control in southern Lebanon, past the Nato based ships outside the Lebanese cost, past the Israeli radar defences all along the cost of Israel including the iron domes and flew above the X-band radar of the US in the Negev desert without being detected.

If this technology is not enough of a proof then wait for the shit to hit the fan in a war and then its too late.

Stop bragging and get real.
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As long as they kill MILLIONS of Satanically evil Jews!
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Re: Iran can amass a swarm of 10,000 speed boats with cruise missiles
The iranian doctrine is shooting many missiles at the same time and towards the same target.So it wont be a (one missile),it will be 10,20 or 30 missiles together.
The same for ballistic missiles,they try to launch many missiles at the same time towards the same target.

Of course you need thousands of missiles to do this kind of attack,tens of thousands...who knows...if they have them or not.These guys may be producing missiles for 30 years,alla day and night long.
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You better believe the USA will take many casualties by these speed boats if involved in a conflict. It will be just like stepping on a bees nest.
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Just target practice for a couple of Helicopters...
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what a crock of shit

firstly, i saw NOT ONE missile being launched from a speedboat

the one missile that was launched came from a warship

the target boat was nothing more than a sitting duck, not fighting back

does ANYONE here think this is how it would play out?

lmao

yeah Iran. go on, launch your deadly speedboats at us!

rofl
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Exactly, this is one of the funniest posts I have seen here.

We have so many attack helicopters and planes on our carriers out in the ME that I guarantee 1 sortie would take all of these speedboats out instantly.
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You better believe the USA will take many casualties by these speed boats if involved in a conflict. It will be just like stepping on a bees nest.
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Just target practice for a couple of Helicopters...
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Yep.

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Re: Iran can amass a swarm of 10,000 speed boats with cruise missiles
they have this missile-artillery philosophy.
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Re: Iran can amass a swarm of 10,000 speed boats with cruise missiles
You better believe the USA will take many casualties by these speed boats if involved in a conflict. It will be just like stepping on a bees nest.
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Just target practice for a couple of Helicopters...
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Yep.

clappa
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It's easy to be a couch commando, isn't it.

No bleeding, dying or drowning involved.
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Re: Iran can amass a swarm of 10,000 speed boats with cruise missiles
You better believe the USA will take many casualties by these speed boats if involved in a conflict. It will be just like stepping on a bees nest.
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Just target practice for a couple of Helicopters...
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Yep.

clappa
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It's easy to be a couch commando, isn't it.

No bleeding, dying or drowning involved.
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oh ffs

are we keeping you from your flower arranging dear?
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You better believe the USA will take many casualties by these speed boats if involved in a conflict. It will be just like stepping on a bees nest.
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do you even realise what equipment our navies have, and the training they go through?

do you REALLY believe speedboats, no matter how many of them they have, hold ANY fear for them?

rofl

honestly guys, get out more.
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Let us try to explain:

The video is propaganda and Iran doesn't have 10 000+ speeds boats, but they have thousands. Of cause a minority of them are missile boats, but they are still in the hundreds.

The mistake of western militaries is the obsession of weapon platforms. The bigger and more sophisticated they are is important. UK shows this in their great mistake called the Type 45 destroyers.
Even if they have an impressive amount of weapons and counter systems itís still just ONE target.

Platforms always come second to the weapons. Itís no more than what the name says - a platform.
Itís much better to fire 100 missiles from 100 small cheep platforms then from a few very expensive ones.

Iran shows understanding in this in every field; even then it comes to their midget subs Ghadir, which have 21Ē torpedo tubes just like the biggest submarines.
They can deliver the same blow, are harder to detect, much cheaper to build and can therefore be built in large numbers.
Theyíre in the top 10 list of nasty surprises for their enemies to be.

How about better radars and tracing systems some may argue. It doesnít really matter in an asymmetric warfare were the enemies quantity is big enough. Soviet painfully taught the quality superior Germany this during WWII. Strange the west didnít learn from it.

Then hundreds of small threats approx, you canít defend against them all. Not even with the most advanced systems. Even if you theoretically can track them you canít fire at them simultaneously. Not to talk about decision-making and other human factors.
Whish one has missiles, mines, divers or maybe even nothing on board? You want know before the missile is fired and then itís far too late, especially in the narrow waters of the Hormuz straight.

We can say for sure that the losses of US and the other aggressors will be for them surprisingly high.
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Re: Iran can amass a swarm of 10,000 speed boats with cruise missiles
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probably, maybe this can tell you more about that weapon system.
[link to www.dtic.mil]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3949899


It's amazing how we're still bogged down in Afghanistan, fighting guys with camels and AK-47's, when we possess the most fantabulous wonder weapons on the orb.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25388275


That's what happens every time you put soldiers into limited war or police actions. Make no mistake that given no political restraints the US military could utterly destroy the taliban.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25527599


Yeah Yeah Yeah... big talk... we could win, were just not trying...

LOL
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We are trying to be as humane as we can since innocent civilians live there. We can't use our air power there, can't use our Navy, can only engage certain enemies etc.

In a real war where we don't have to worry about civilians you really think this would be an issue? Laughable.

Bottom line: If we even have boots on the ground, the sheer fact we are using infantry goes to show you were are fighting a soft war.

Otherwise the entire region would have be cleansed already.
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Re: Iran can amass a swarm of 10,000 speed boats with cruise missiles
You better believe the USA will take many casualties by these speed boats if involved in a conflict. It will be just like stepping on a bees nest.
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Just target practice for a couple of Helicopters...
 Quoting: PravdaDemocrat


Yep.

clappa
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It's easy to be a couch commando, isn't it.

No bleeding, dying or drowning involved.
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...and you know my entire background on politics and the military?

Really funny how you project to me the exact thing you are doing.
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Re: Iran can amass a swarm of 10,000 speed boats with cruise missiles
THIS [link to www.youtube.com]
The missiles wouldn't be a problem for the ships, most now have the 4,500 rounds per minute 20 mm 6 barreled M61 Vulcan Gatling Gun that would pwn any missile that's in range
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Re: Iran can amass a swarm of 10,000 speed boats with cruise missiles
Think of the USS Cole incident. You don't even need a missile armed boat to damage a warship. These speed boats laden with explosived are a pretty big threat I would say, ecspecially if their coming at you in large swarms.
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Re: Iran can amass a swarm of 10,000 speed boats with cruise missiles
Simple minds. NEVER in the history of warfare has a narrow spectrum weapon made a wide spectrum weapon obsolete. Only another wide spectrum weapon can do that.

Examples. The torpedo (narrow spectrum) did not make the battleship obsolete. It took a carrier (an even wider spectrum weapon) to do that. The anti-aircraft missile has not the airplane obsolete. The anti-tank missile has not the tank obsolete.

On barren test ranges it would appear that an anti-tank missile makes a tank useless. A $20,000 advanced missile can hit a $20,000,000 tank from a couple of miles away with 90% accuracy, right?

Of course it can. But how effective are those same missiles against a tank division bearing down at 30 miles an hour with rolling artillery ahead of them, with smoke screens (to prevent visual laser sighting) and flares popping everywhere (to disorient thermal guidance)? And then at closer ranges automatic mortars and heavy machine guns start spreading death and destruction. How effective are those exposed missile infantry troops now?

Narrow spectrum weapons are threats that if not guarded against are game changers. That is all. They make things more dangerous and thus require resources and/or tactical doctrine changes to mitigate.

Take a military history class or a modern warfare class....or read a damn book before declaring absurdities.
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Re: Iran can amass a swarm of 10,000 speed boats with cruise missiles
''''It's easy to be a couch commando, isn't it.

No bleeding, dying or drowning involved.''''

BEST comment on this thread!!!!

That is their country and they have been around for thousands of years-Israel just over 60 and USA 242.

You dont think they will defend their country.They are not the one making the threats.Be careful what you wish for.

There are 3 democracies in the ME-Israel Turkey and Iran -with elections.................

When is the last time the US got into a conflict and came out quickly and cleanly?

We do not need this grief again.They are no threat to the states so why have needless bloodshed-and for who-for what?
Wake up!!
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You better believe the USA will take many casualties by these speed boats if involved in a conflict. It will be just like stepping on a bees nest.
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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25047532


do you even realise what equipment our navies have, and the training they go through?

do you REALLY believe speedboats, no matter how many of them they have, hold ANY fear for them?

rofl

honestly guys, get out more.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25311324


Let us try to explain:

The video is propaganda and Iran doesn't have 10 000+ speeds boats, but they have thousands. Of cause a minority of them are missile boats, but they are still in the hundreds.

The mistake of western militaries is the obsession of weapon platforms. The bigger and more sophisticated they are is important. UK shows this in their great mistake called the Type 45 destroyers.
Even if they have an impressive amount of weapons and counter systems itís still just ONE target.

Platforms always come second to the weapons. Itís no more than what the name says - a platform.
Itís much better to fire 100 missiles from 100 small cheep platforms then from a few very expensive ones.

Iran shows understanding in this in every field; even then it comes to their midget subs Ghadir, which have 21Ē torpedo tubes just like the biggest submarines.
They can deliver the same blow, are harder to detect, much cheaper to build and can therefore be built in large numbers.
Theyíre in the top 10 list of nasty surprises for their enemies to be.

How about better radars and tracing systems some may argue. It doesnít really matter in an asymmetric warfare were the enemies quantity is big enough. Soviet painfully taught the quality superior Germany this during WWII. Strange the west didnít learn from it.

Then hundreds of small threats approx, you canít defend against them all. Not even with the most advanced systems. Even if you theoretically can track them you canít fire at them simultaneously. Not to talk about decision-making and other human factors.
Whish one has missiles, mines, divers or maybe even nothing on board? You want know before the missile is fired and then itís far too late, especially in the narrow waters of the Hormuz straight.

We can say for sure that the losses of US and the other aggressors will be for them surprisingly high.
 Quoting: Informed


Huge problem with your theory:

Iran's latest ďcarrier killerĒ missile has a 185-mile range.

Tomahawks and F/A-18E/F Super Hornets are launched from 400 to 1,000 miles offshore.

You do the math logistically and you will see how they will fail. I guess we will wait for these 10,000 speedboats to travel 500+ miles towards us before we do anything right?
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Re: Iran can amass a swarm of 10,000 speed boats with cruise missiles
Do phalanx turrets not over heat? That seems to be what people make it out to be. Also would the apaches not be shot at? It sounds like a video game the way things are perfect in the US military.
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It would seem very much like a video game from
the American side.
American military is so quick and so automated
that America would kill more of its own soldiers
in friendly fire accidents than Iran would kill
in an allout attack.
It would be a complete fish in a barrel rout.
The phalanx is an old and well tested weapon.
Don't count on it getting too hot to fire.
Think gatling gun against indians with bows and arrows.
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Just target practice for a couple of Helicopters...
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Yep.

clappa
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It's easy to be a couch commando, isn't it.

No bleeding, dying or drowning involved.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25388275


oh ffs

are we keeping you from your flower arranging dear?
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Not, just you from your boyfriend

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