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Jesus lied - period.

 
Ellusion

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Christians....if you will admit to yourself just one thing...it will make all this easier.

The reason you go on the attack when someone like myself or the OP say these things...is because it makes you doubt. These's this little tightness in your chest that makes you uncomfortable and makes you FEAR that what we are saying just might be true.

and you can't have that. Because if what we say is true...then you are afraid that means you aren't saved. That you are going to hell if you don't have faith in the bible and Jesus. You can't allow yourself to doubt, even for one minute...because of FEAR.

Christianity is a fear based religion...not a loved based religion. Contrary to what we said. I said it too. I preached love, but it was really fear. Fear of hell...fear of displeasing God, fear of God's wrath, fear of not enough faith, fear of stumbling and sinning....fear fear fear.

Of course, how can it be anything else if you believe the "god" of the Old Testament is the God of Christianity? No love there...only vengeance, wrath, discipline and rigid obedience.

The real GOD is love....not fear. Hell is a construct of ancient Egypt that the Israelites adopted. There is no hell. A God of love would never have such a place.

Stop fearing.
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? how many times have you denied JESUS in the name of LOVE?
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Christians....if you will admit to yourself just one thing...it will make all this easier.

The reason you go on the attack when someone like myself or the OP say these things...is because it makes you doubt. These's this little tightness in your chest that makes you uncomfortable and makes you FEAR that what we are saying just might be true.

and you can't have that. Because if what we say is true...then you are afraid that means you aren't saved. That you are going to hell if you don't have faith in the bible and Jesus. You can't allow yourself to doubt, even for one minute...because of FEAR.

Christianity is a fear based religion...not a loved based religion. Contrary to what we said. I said it too. I preached love, but it was really fear. Fear of hell...fear of displeasing God, fear of God's wrath, fear of not enough faith, fear of stumbling and sinning....fear fear fear.

Of course, how can it be anything else if you believe the "god" of the Old Testament is the God of Christianity? No love there...only vengeance, wrath, discipline and rigid obedience.

The real GOD is love....not fear. Hell is a construct of ancient Egypt that the Israelites adopted. There is no hell. A God of love would never have such a place.

Stop fearing.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25509524


? how many times have you denied JESUS in the name of LOVE?
 Quoting: Ellusion

You don't get it - this is not a denial of the person ... this is a denial of the entire picture based on data.

If we take this one step further, god does not exist either. The idea of "gods" is only 5000 - 5500 years old ... and beyond that is nothing.

This is where the evolution argument comes in because fear stops you from thinking rationally. You are scared to death that if you question this subject, god is going to kick your ass SOMEWHERE along the line. The idea of "study to show yourself approved" goes right out the window, because study could only be his word - and nothing else.

You can't / won't see it - MEN have created this mental conundrum to keep you in control. And, by the looks of things, they have done an excellent job.
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FACE TO FACE
AND
HEART TO HEART
WE'LL BE, WITH OR WITHOUT YOU
JESUS IS A SONG AND I DANCE TO HIS RYTHM
DIDNT YOU KNOW!!
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Or your human brain doesnt know what He was talki g about because you arent meant to
Matthew 16>18
And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it..
Peter was crucified..on Vatican Hill

"Thou shalt not kill" does not apply to murder of one's own kind only, but to all living beings; and this Commandment was inscribed in the human breast long before it was proclaimed from Sinai. ~Leo Tolstoy


You have heard that it was said, "You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy."
But I say to you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven; for He causes His sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous.
For if you love those who love you, what reward do you have?

..Immanuel ,The Christ (Sermon Of The Mount)


“WHAT YOU DO TO OTHERS YOU DO TO YOURSELF FOR THAT IS THE LAW..AND THE PROFIT"

..)

Preach the Gospel at all times..and when necessary use words..

St.Francis Of Assisi..

Dont look at where the finger is pointing..but at WHO is doing the pointing


wildhoney14@yahoo.com

[link to www.google.ca]

Be part of the re evolution of the Spirit..say yes to peace and love..be called child of God

Inherit the Kingdom

...Time of the Angels..


oh and PLEASE STOP SENDING ME SPAM FROM AFRICA..thank you :)
Ellusion

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yes you are right im not suppose too , i only see what JESUS wants me to see , so thanks for my confirmation!
ummm taste like SWEET HONEY!!
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Or your human brain doesnt know what He was talki g about because you arent meant to
 Quoting: wildhoney

All data is workable ... this picture has a building history that includes scientific findings at least 2+ centuries before the Essenes popped up. This information shows WHY the foundation of the coming "doom" was constructed. But then, like other parts to this puzzle, I guess you knew that because you wonder if I know what I'm talking about.

You read one book - you have no overview.
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Or your human brain doesnt know what He was talki g about because you arent meant to
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All data is workable ... this picture has a building history that includes scientific findings at least 2+ centuries before the Essenes popped up. This information shows WHY the foundation of the coming "doom" was constructed. But then, like other parts to this puzzle, I guess you knew that because you wonder if I know what I'm talking about.

You read one book - you have no overview.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20512756


Doom for some..liberation for others

Jesus lied? Look around you..this is the biggest con ever sold
Matthew 16>18
And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it..
Peter was crucified..on Vatican Hill

"Thou shalt not kill" does not apply to murder of one's own kind only, but to all living beings; and this Commandment was inscribed in the human breast long before it was proclaimed from Sinai. ~Leo Tolstoy


You have heard that it was said, "You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy."
But I say to you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven; for He causes His sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous.
For if you love those who love you, what reward do you have?

..Immanuel ,The Christ (Sermon Of The Mount)


“WHAT YOU DO TO OTHERS YOU DO TO YOURSELF FOR THAT IS THE LAW..AND THE PROFIT"

..)

Preach the Gospel at all times..and when necessary use words..

St.Francis Of Assisi..

Dont look at where the finger is pointing..but at WHO is doing the pointing


wildhoney14@yahoo.com

[link to www.google.ca]

Be part of the re evolution of the Spirit..say yes to peace and love..be called child of God

Inherit the Kingdom

...Time of the Angels..


oh and PLEASE STOP SENDING ME SPAM FROM AFRICA..thank you :)
niphtrique

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Jesus was wrong and that is quite telling in itself. Lying implies that he knew the truth, but I think he did not. But that is not all. After he died they changed the texts so you have been deceived about what happened for 2,000 years.

Look at the following evidence:
- Jesus was with God in the beginning (John 1:2) but there is no mentioning of Jesus in the Tanakh.
- Adam is referred to as son of God (Luke 3:38), Jesus as firstborn over all creation (Col. 1:15) so Adam was born and Jesus was a reincarnation of Adam.
- Christians are considered to be children of God and born of God (John 1:12-13). Men cannot give birth so God is a Mother and the text was altered.
- No Father is mentioned in the Tanakh, only Eve is named Mother of All the Living (Gen. 3:20).
- After having created the humans on the sixth day in Genesis 1, God appears to have started over again by creating Adam and Eve in Genesis 2. This indicates that the text has been changed.
- Adam calling his wife Eve because She would become mother of all the living also suggests tampering.
- The Quran states that God tested Adam during The Fall (Quran 20:115-121) while The Bible states that Eve induced Adam to eat from the tree (Gen. 3:4-6).
- The Quran mentions the creation of Adam extensively but does not mention the creation of Eve, which may indicate that Eve was never created.
- The Quran mentions that Jesus and Adam were created in a similar way (Quran: 3:59). They were both born from a virgin.
- The repeated reference in the Gnostic texts of Mary Magdalene being loved by Jesus more than the others indicates that the Beloved Disciple in the Gospel of John was originally Mary Magdalene before the text was redacted.
- The last chapter of the gospel of John appears to be added later to suggest that the Beloved Disciple was John as the previous chapter already has closing lines (John 20:30-31).
- There apparently had been rumours that the Beloved Disciple had become immortal (John 21:23). If the Beloved Disciple was Mary Magdalene and if She was God then this would have made sense.
- The love of God Jesus was speaking of (John 17:23-26) was the love of a Goddess for Her husband.
- John the Baptist talks in the Gospel (John 3:27-29) in terms of himself as a best man with the implication that Jesus the bridegroom is coming to meet his bride, but there is nothing specific to identify the bride (see also: Luke 5:34, Matt. 9:15).
- It was customary for a Jewish rabbi to be married and the apostles called him rabbi (Mark 11:21).
- The marriage described in the Gospel of John (John 2:2-8) could be the wedding of Jesus because at a Jewish wedding guests normally do not give orders.
- Jesus started doing miracles at this wedding, which may indicate that this wedding turned him into the Messiah.
- In the Parable of the Ten Virgins the Kingdom of Heaven is compared with a wedding banquet in which Jesus is the bridegroom (Matt. 25:1-13).

A thinking brain has figured it out by now. Too bad that there are so few of them around. Jesus will have a very hard time convincing people about his message when he comes back because nobody will believe him.

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? how is JESUS a liar to you , when you dont believe in him!
wow you cant even practice what you preach!
the blind trying to lead the the blind
i dont believe in him but i will argue about him , makes sense in wonderland!!!
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The existence of data? Where in your little brain did you find this "data?" You are very confused. Or just enjoy arguing without facts to stir up trouble.

angryface
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17868616


There is no sense in even trying to deal with these people. They have made their decision based on the cold hard 'facts' of wildly varying opinion and learned material from the far flung corners of the internet.

These are the Google-tards that our world has produced. Young, mouthy pricks who feel they deserve a politically correct, moral high-ground for using big words; and then calling 'Ad Hominem!' without even the slightest idea of it's true meaning.

Stupid as a bricks, and just as dense.
 Quoting: Patient.Zer0


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Yes - but when we don't throw the context away - we know that "day" was expected 2000 years ago.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20512756


Are you dense? Verse 3 gives the timeframe: "In the last days."

All you are doing is heaping more and more judgment on yourself. You would be wise to repent.
 Quoting: Needles Eye


Forewarned!! Two believers have warned OP.
Into the pit for OP!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17868616


Does it make you somehow feel superior to believe that others will go into "the pit"??

You seem to make such declarations with alot of glee?

I suspect it just makes the fear abate to shout it from the rooftops.

INTO THE PIT!!!!!!! You are pathetic.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25509524




You should REALLY listen to yourselves one day. The only word for it is: mindless.

Your atheistic, mob-mentality, elitist bullshit ape-love belief system is a sickness that is quite consuming with its allure of superiority.

Yes, you absolutely still have a chance; however, listening to your pathetic comrades who have flipped to your dark side and seem all to comfortable and cozy with their new-found blankets of technology, you must realize that we view your grand parade into perdition as quite a ridiculous show.

Glee? No, mmmm, maybe sad amusement.
"It doesn't matter how beautiful your theory is, it doesn't matter how smart you are. If it doesn't agree with experiment, it's wrong."
Richard P. Feynman
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Jesus lied? Look around you..this is the biggest con ever sold
 Quoting: wildhoney


Yes - he is laugh
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Jesus lied? Look around you..this is the biggest con ever sold
 Quoting: wildhoney


Yes - he is laugh
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20512756


Dont spin my words..
The lie is the prison that keeps many distracted, enslaved and busy
Jesus is the key..the truth will set you free
Are you free opie?
Matthew 16>18
And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it..
Peter was crucified..on Vatican Hill

"Thou shalt not kill" does not apply to murder of one's own kind only, but to all living beings; and this Commandment was inscribed in the human breast long before it was proclaimed from Sinai. ~Leo Tolstoy


You have heard that it was said, "You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy."
But I say to you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven; for He causes His sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous.
For if you love those who love you, what reward do you have?

..Immanuel ,The Christ (Sermon Of The Mount)


“WHAT YOU DO TO OTHERS YOU DO TO YOURSELF FOR THAT IS THE LAW..AND THE PROFIT"

..)

Preach the Gospel at all times..and when necessary use words..

St.Francis Of Assisi..

Dont look at where the finger is pointing..but at WHO is doing the pointing


wildhoney14@yahoo.com

[link to www.google.ca]

Be part of the re evolution of the Spirit..say yes to peace and love..be called child of God

Inherit the Kingdom

...Time of the Angels..


oh and PLEASE STOP SENDING ME SPAM FROM AFRICA..thank you :)
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**GIANT YAWN**

People, this has been addressed before.
It is unfortunate that ignorant atheist and
agnostic posters prey upon the minds of our
less developed Christains.

Please perouse the following links for some
answers to the banal posit of the O.P. :

[link to www.neverthirsty.org]

[link to www.rondaniel.com]

[link to bible.org]

[link to www.meetingwithchrist.com]
 Quoting: RDprofessor


^^^the only post on this thread worth reading.^^^
have a "nice day".
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If we followed Jesus we would be in the world but not of it..we would have different values..different morals..we wouldnt be up for sale..
Matthew 16>18
And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it..
Peter was crucified..on Vatican Hill

"Thou shalt not kill" does not apply to murder of one's own kind only, but to all living beings; and this Commandment was inscribed in the human breast long before it was proclaimed from Sinai. ~Leo Tolstoy


You have heard that it was said, "You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy."
But I say to you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven; for He causes His sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous.
For if you love those who love you, what reward do you have?

..Immanuel ,The Christ (Sermon Of The Mount)


“WHAT YOU DO TO OTHERS YOU DO TO YOURSELF FOR THAT IS THE LAW..AND THE PROFIT"

..)

Preach the Gospel at all times..and when necessary use words..

St.Francis Of Assisi..

Dont look at where the finger is pointing..but at WHO is doing the pointing


wildhoney14@yahoo.com

[link to www.google.ca]

Be part of the re evolution of the Spirit..say yes to peace and love..be called child of God

Inherit the Kingdom

...Time of the Angels..


oh and PLEASE STOP SENDING ME SPAM FROM AFRICA..thank you :)
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Truly, I say to you, there are some standing here who will not taste death until they see the Son of Man coming in his kingdom.”

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20512756


John saw it, in a vision, which is what we call the book of Revelation. He saw it before he died.

Jesus didn't lie, just man didn't understand what He said. Most men still don't get it.
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


Ahh - the book of revelation - written on the isle where shrooms grow wild laugh
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20512756


with every nonsensical retort you make, Christ gains credibility and you lose. Keep spouting because you aren't one of the chosen ones to live in the Kingdom of Heaven when you die.
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If we had money we would use it to help free ourself and do Gods Will..we would use it to help others
If we didnt have it..we would build a treasure in Gods kingdom and not worry about what others think we should do..
Jesus is the compass for every situation..without him we are a ship in a storm with no guidance
Matthew 16>18
And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it..
Peter was crucified..on Vatican Hill

"Thou shalt not kill" does not apply to murder of one's own kind only, but to all living beings; and this Commandment was inscribed in the human breast long before it was proclaimed from Sinai. ~Leo Tolstoy


You have heard that it was said, "You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy."
But I say to you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven; for He causes His sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous.
For if you love those who love you, what reward do you have?

..Immanuel ,The Christ (Sermon Of The Mount)


“WHAT YOU DO TO OTHERS YOU DO TO YOURSELF FOR THAT IS THE LAW..AND THE PROFIT"

..)

Preach the Gospel at all times..and when necessary use words..

St.Francis Of Assisi..

Dont look at where the finger is pointing..but at WHO is doing the pointing


wildhoney14@yahoo.com

[link to www.google.ca]

Be part of the re evolution of the Spirit..say yes to peace and love..be called child of God

Inherit the Kingdom

...Time of the Angels..


oh and PLEASE STOP SENDING ME SPAM FROM AFRICA..thank you :)
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A thinking brain has figured it out by now. Too bad that there are so few of them around. Jesus will have a very hard time convincing people about his message when he comes back because nobody will believe him.
 Quoting: niphtrique

I wouldn't worry about it - he isn't coming back. All this thread was to deal with was the simple fact that Paul et al pushed the belief of a coming end and salvation ... and that this event was to have happened 2000 years ago, not today or some time in our future.
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Truly, I say to you, there are some standing here who will not taste death until they see the Son of Man coming in his kingdom.”

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20512756


John saw it, in a vision, which is what we call the book of Revelation. He saw it before he died.

Jesus didn't lie, just man didn't understand what He said. Most men still don't get it.
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


Ahh - the book of revelation - written on the isle where shrooms grow wild laugh
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20512756


with every nonsensical retort you make, Christ gains credibility and you lose. Keep spouting because you aren't one of the chosen ones to live in the Kingdom of Heaven when you die.
 Quoting: Pwned 1469175

I went for the logic and hard data angle ... time for humor.
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Jesus lied? Look around you..this is the biggest con ever sold
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Yes - he is laugh
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20512756


Dont spin my words..
The lie is the prison that keeps many distracted, enslaved and busy
Jesus is the key..the truth will set you free
Are you free opie?
 Quoting: wildhoney

If free means not delusional - then yes - I am free.
Hard data always wins ... because it's an explanation of what IS, not what we THINK is.
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A thinking brain has figured it out by now. Too bad that there are so few of them around. Jesus will have a very hard time convincing people about his message when he comes back because nobody will believe him.
 Quoting: niphtrique

I wouldn't worry about it - he isn't coming back. All this thread was to deal with was the simple fact that Paul et al pushed the belief of a coming end and salvation ... and that this event was to have happened 2000 years ago, not today or some time in our future.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20512756



You are proving our point rather well. Would you like a doggy treat?
"It doesn't matter how beautiful your theory is, it doesn't matter how smart you are. If it doesn't agree with experiment, it's wrong."
Richard P. Feynman
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He was misquoted.
Or
He lied
Or
He meant something else

All of the above challenge the infallibility of the Bible.
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ROFLMMFAO!!! Holy shit! Are you truly this ignorant?!

Let's just hope you can add a few more points to your pitiful little list there Johnson...time grows thin.
"It doesn't matter how beautiful your theory is, it doesn't matter how smart you are. If it doesn't agree with experiment, it's wrong."
Richard P. Feynman
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you are spending alot of time trying to debunk something you don't believe in and something thousands of scholars more educated than you in the subject have tried to no avail. What is your endgame?

What is your insecurity? I for example don't believe in niburu, therefore I don't spend my time creating niburu is a lie threads.

You believe it is false, move on. I believe it's true. One of us is right, time will show.
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you are spending alot of time trying to debunk something you don't believe in and something thousands of scholars more educated than you in the subject have tried to no avail. What is your endgame?

What is your insecurity? I for example don't believe in niburu, therefore I don't spend my time creating niburu is a lie threads.

You believe it is false, move on. I believe it's true. One of us is right, time will show.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3716768


Because there is more to this than meets the eye - the original story - but we can't get beyond the mistake, so, why bother.
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you are spending alot of time trying to debunk something you don't believe in and something thousands of scholars more educated than you in the subject have tried to no avail. What is your endgame?

What is your insecurity? I for example don't believe in niburu, therefore I don't spend my time creating niburu is a lie threads.

You believe it is false, move on. I believe it's true. One of us is right, time will show.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3716768


Because there is more to this than meets the eye - the original story - but we can't get beyond the mistake, so, why bother.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20512756


Israel are ten tribes of people that are to be as numerous as the stars and the sands of the sea. Not a politcal state somewhere on the earth as spoken there.

Maybe now go back and re-read your original quotes in proper context.
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you are spending alot of time trying to debunk something you don't believe in and something thousands of scholars more educated than you in the subject have tried to no avail. What is your endgame?

What is your insecurity? I for example don't believe in niburu, therefore I don't spend my time creating niburu is a lie threads.

You believe it is false, move on. I believe it's true. One of us is right, time will show.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3716768


Because there is more to this than meets the eye - the original story - but we can't get beyond the mistake, so, why bother.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20512756


Israel are ten tribes of people that are to be as numerous as the stars and the sands of the sea. Not a politcal state somewhere on the earth as spoken there.

Maybe now go back and re-read your original quotes in proper context.
 Quoting: Brogan

Thousands of years before "the ten tribes" were even a gleam in their great grandmother's eye - this story was around. Before the "woman" ever had a "son" this story lived.
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He was misquoted.
Or
He lied
Or
He meant something else

All of the above challenge the infallibility of the Bible.
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No, it challenges the Translations and Interpretation of the things written in the Bible.
Most commonly these are called "The Doctrines of Men".

They are man's interpretation of what God meant when he said or did something.
Men are often wrong, God is never wrong.
End of story.
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Re: Jesus lied - period.
No matter how you look at it, how you stumble around desperately trying to figure a way to get around it, the "end" was supposed to have come 2000 years ago. Simply put, it never happened. Paul was wrong, and every attempt to straighten this mess out - failed. Modern, unbiased, biblical scholars know this, but the people refuse to see it.

“For the Son of Man is going to come with his angels in the glory of his Father, and then he will repay each person according to what he has done. Truly, I say to you, there are some standing here who will not taste death until they see the Son of Man coming in his kingdom.”



When they persecute you in one town, flee to the next, for truly, I say to you, you will not have gone through all the towns of Israel before the Son of Man comes.
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lol you think you know TIME! Sorry but there is no TRUTH in you. All i see is you mocking the mocker! GLORY TO JESUS!
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Jesus WILL be glorified, and these mockers will woe the day that they were born.
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AMEN!hf
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I wonder how it feels.

"...there are some standing here who will not taste death until they see the Son of Man coming in his kingdom.”

When Christians see this they must feel something, if only for a split second.
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10/14/2012 04:26 PM
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you are spending alot of time trying to debunk something you don't believe in and something thousands of scholars more educated than you in the subject have tried to no avail. What is your endgame?

What is your insecurity? I for example don't believe in niburu, therefore I don't spend my time creating niburu is a lie threads.

You believe it is false, move on. I believe it's true. One of us is right, time will show.
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Because there is more to this than meets the eye - the original story - but we can't get beyond the mistake, so, why bother.
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Israel are ten tribes of people that are to be as numerous as the stars and the sands of the sea. Not a politcal state somewhere on the earth as spoken there.

Maybe now go back and re-read your original quotes in proper context.
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Thousands of years before "the ten tribes" were even a gleam in their great grandmother's eye - this story was around. Before the "woman" ever had a "son" this story lived.
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The founder of the ancient stories I believe you're touching on goes back billions of years and knew of Gods plan for salvation long before the first flesh man even walked the earth. He has controlled civilizations from the beginning and strewn more than a few shit sandwiches in the path.

Eventually everything is going to be worked out, even if we like to eat shit sandwiches from time to time.

Seriously if you really ever want to see, just about everywhere you see Israel spoken of plug the context in that I gave you. One day it might help.
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10/14/2012 04:33 PM
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lol you think you know TIME! Sorry but there is no TRUTH in you. All i see is you mocking the mocker! GLORY TO JESUS!
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Jesus WILL be glorified, and these mockers will woe the day that they were born.
 Quoting: Needles Eye


AMEN!hf
 Quoting: abeliever


I wonder how it feels.

"...there are some standing here who will not taste death until they see the Son of Man coming in his kingdom.”

When Christians see this they must feel something, if only for a split second.
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No not at all.

Not those that know Christ's voice. He loves us all.
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Because there is more to this than meets the eye - the original story - but we can't get beyond the mistake, so, why bother.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20512756


Israel are ten tribes of people that are to be as numerous as the stars and the sands of the sea. Not a politcal state somewhere on the earth as spoken there.

Maybe now go back and re-read your original quotes in proper context.
 Quoting: Brogan

Thousands of years before "the ten tribes" were even a gleam in their great grandmother's eye - this story was around. Before the "woman" ever had a "son" this story lived.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20512756


The founder of the ancient stories I believe you're touching on goes back billions of years and knew of Gods plan for salvation long before the first flesh man even walked the earth. He has controlled civilizations from the beginning and strewn more than a few shit sandwiches in the path.

Eventually everything is going to be worked out, even if we like to eat shit sandwiches from time to time.

Seriously if you really ever want to see, just about everywhere you see Israel spoken of plug the context in that I gave you. One day it might help.
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No, not billions ...

Data was changed due to a cognitive dissonance event that caused the Mediterranean people to choose the wrong path. This has nothing to do with a "god," as gods did not exist back then. The event is cyclical, the "help" is real. It will come from the sky but it takes the form of nothing you have considered yet.

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