Jesus lied - period.

? how many times have you denied JESUS in the name of LOVE?

You don't get it - this is not a denial of the person ... this is a denial of the entire picture based on data.

If we take this one step further, god does not exist either. The idea of "gods" is only 5000 - 5500 years old ... and beyond that is nothing.

This is where the evolution argument comes in because fear stops you from thinking rationally. You are scared to death that if you question this subject, god is going to kick your ass SOMEWHERE along the line. The idea of "study to show yourself approved" goes right out the window, because study could only be his word - and nothing else.

You can't / won't see it - MEN have created this mental conundrum to keep you in control. And, by the looks of things, they have done an excellent job.

FACE TO FACE
AND
HEART TO HEART
WE'LL BE, WITH OR WITHOUT YOU
JESUS IS A SONG AND I DANCE TO HIS RYTHM
DIDNT YOU KNOW!!

Or your human brain doesnt know what He was talki g about because you arent meant to

yes you are right im not suppose too , i only see what JESUS wants me to see , so thanks for my confirmation!
ummm taste like SWEET HONEY!!

All data is workable ... this picture has a building history that includes scientific findings at least 2+ centuries before the Essenes popped up. This information shows WHY the foundation of the coming "doom" was constructed. But then, like other parts to this puzzle, I guess you knew that because you wonder if I know what I'm talking about.

You read one book - you have no overview.

Doom for some..liberation for others

Jesus lied? Look around you..this is the biggest con ever sold

Jesus was wrong and that is quite telling in itself. Lying implies that he knew the truth, but I think he did not. But that is not all. After he died they changed the texts so you have been deceived about what happened for 2,000 years.

Look at the following evidence:
- Jesus was with God in the beginning (John 1:2) but there is no mentioning of Jesus in the Tanakh.
- Adam is referred to as son of God (Luke 3:38), Jesus as firstborn over all creation (Col. 1:15) so Adam was born and Jesus was a reincarnation of Adam.
- Christians are considered to be children of God and born of God (John 1:12-13). Men cannot give birth so God is a Mother and the text was altered.
- No Father is mentioned in the Tanakh, only Eve is named Mother of All the Living (Gen. 3:20).
- After having created the humans on the sixth day in Genesis 1, God appears to have started over again by creating Adam and Eve in Genesis 2. This indicates that the text has been changed.
- Adam calling his wife Eve because She would become mother of all the living also suggests tampering.
- The Quran states that God tested Adam during The Fall (Quran 20:115-121) while The Bible states that Eve induced Adam to eat from the tree (Gen. 3:4-6).
- The Quran mentions the creation of Adam extensively but does not mention the creation of Eve, which may indicate that Eve was never created.
- The Quran mentions that Jesus and Adam were created in a similar way (Quran: 3:59). They were both born from a virgin.
- The repeated reference in the Gnostic texts of Mary Magdalene being loved by Jesus more than the others indicates that the Beloved Disciple in the Gospel of John was originally Mary Magdalene before the text was redacted.
- The last chapter of the gospel of John appears to be added later to suggest that the Beloved Disciple was John as the previous chapter already has closing lines (John 20:30-31).
- There apparently had been rumours that the Beloved Disciple had become immortal (John 21:23). If the Beloved Disciple was Mary Magdalene and if She was God then this would have made sense.
- The love of God Jesus was speaking of (John 17:23-26) was the love of a Goddess for Her husband.
- John the Baptist talks in the Gospel (John 3:27-29) in terms of himself as a best man with the implication that Jesus the bridegroom is coming to meet his bride, but there is nothing specific to identify the bride (see also: Luke 5:34, Matt. 9:15).
- It was customary for a Jewish rabbi to be married and the apostles called him rabbi (Mark 11:21).
- The marriage described in the Gospel of John (John 2:2-8) could be the wedding of Jesus because at a Jewish wedding guests normally do not give orders.
- Jesus started doing miracles at this wedding, which may indicate that this wedding turned him into the Messiah.
- In the Parable of the Ten Virgins the Kingdom of Heaven is compared with a wedding banquet in which Jesus is the bridegroom (Matt. 25:1-13).

A thinking brain has figured it out by now. Too bad that there are so few of them around. Jesus will have a very hard time convincing people about his message when he comes back because nobody will believe him.

Last Edited by niphtrique on 10/14/2012 02:42 PM

? how is JESUS a liar to you , when you dont believe in him!
wow you cant even practice what you preach!
the blind trying to lead the the blind
i dont believe in him but i will argue about him , makes sense in wonderland!!!

You should REALLY listen to yourselves one day. The only word for it is: mindless.

Your atheistic, mob-mentality, elitist bullshit ape-love belief system is a sickness that is quite consuming with its allure of superiority.

Yes, you absolutely still have a chance; however, listening to your pathetic comrades who have flipped to your dark side and seem all to comfortable and cozy with their new-found blankets of technology, you must realize that we view your grand parade into perdition as quite a ridiculous show.

Glee? No, mmmm, maybe sad amusement.

Yes - he is

Dont spin my words..
The lie is the prison that keeps many distracted, enslaved and busy
Jesus is the key..the truth will set you free
Are you free opie?

^^^the only post on this thread worth reading.^^^
have a "nice day".

If we followed Jesus we would be in the world but not of it..we would have different values..different morals..we wouldnt be up for sale..

with every nonsensical retort you make, Christ gains credibility and you lose. Keep spouting because you aren't one of the chosen ones to live in the Kingdom of Heaven when you die.

If we had money we would use it to help free ourself and do Gods Will..we would use it to help others
If we didnt have it..we would build a treasure in Gods kingdom and not worry about what others think we should do..
Jesus is the compass for every situation..without him we are a ship in a storm with no guidance

I wouldn't worry about it - he isn't coming back. All this thread was to deal with was the simple fact that Paul et al pushed the belief of a coming end and salvation ... and that this event was to have happened 2000 years ago, not today or some time in our future.

I went for the logic and hard data angle ... time for humor.

If free means not delusional - then yes - I am free.
Hard data always wins ... because it's an explanation of what IS, not what we THINK is.

You are proving our point rather well. Would you like a doggy treat?

ROFLMMFAO!!! Holy shit! Are you truly this ignorant?!

Let's just hope you can add a few more points to your pitiful little list there Johnson...time grows thin.

you are spending alot of time trying to debunk something you don't believe in and something thousands of scholars more educated than you in the subject have tried to no avail. What is your endgame?

What is your insecurity? I for example don't believe in niburu, therefore I don't spend my time creating niburu is a lie threads.

You believe it is false, move on. I believe it's true. One of us is right, time will show.

Because there is more to this than meets the eye - the original story - but we can't get beyond the mistake, so, why bother.

Israel are ten tribes of people that are to be as numerous as the stars and the sands of the sea. Not a politcal state somewhere on the earth as spoken there.

Maybe now go back and re-read your original quotes in proper context.

Thousands of years before "the ten tribes" were even a gleam in their great grandmother's eye - this story was around. Before the "woman" ever had a "son" this story lived.

No, it challenges the Translations and Interpretation of the things written in the Bible.
Most commonly these are called "The Doctrines of Men".

They are man's interpretation of what God meant when he said or did something.
Men are often wrong, God is never wrong.
End of story.

I wonder how it feels.

"...there are some standing here who will not taste death until they see the Son of Man coming in his kingdom.”

When Christians see this they must feel something, if only for a split second.

The founder of the ancient stories I believe you're touching on goes back billions of years and knew of Gods plan for salvation long before the first flesh man even walked the earth. He has controlled civilizations from the beginning and strewn more than a few shit sandwiches in the path.

Eventually everything is going to be worked out, even if we like to eat shit sandwiches from time to time.

Seriously if you really ever want to see, just about everywhere you see Israel spoken of plug the context in that I gave you. One day it might help.

No not at all.

Not those that know Christ's voice. He loves us all.

No, not billions ...

Data was changed due to a cognitive dissonance event that caused the Mediterranean people to choose the wrong path. This has nothing to do with a "god," as gods did not exist back then. The event is cyclical, the "help" is real. It will come from the sky but it takes the form of nothing you have considered yet.