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Hostess Cupcakes Getting Ready to Shut Down Because of Unions.[TSWB]

 
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Buy stocks in Drakes Cakes.China makes a more filling version of the twinkie and it is round not phallic shaped.
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If your wiener is shaped like a twinkie,
you better get to the groinacologist.
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The corporation is run by three rich white guys. This is nothing but union busting bull shit driven by corporate greed. Sure isn't do to lack of sales. It has more than 400 job openings, more than 350 for sales routes.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1326056


Route sales has a VERY high turnover rate.

International Bakers has a long history of union troubles. Just another U.S. company destroyed by the combination of Government, and Unions.
(Or in other words, destroyed by LIBERALISM)
 Quoting: PravdaDemocrat


Whose side are you on, anyway?! Unions were formed to stop exploitation of workers and to attempt to get them a living wage. Now the unions are busted and Americans' average income has been declining for at least a decade while stocks and corporate incomes continue to rise? Why is exploitation of American workers in order to enrich company owners a Good Thing???!
 Quoting: Little Bee


I don't think you understand the concept of globalization and competition. Companies cannot afford to pay workers a premium and it's not because they are greedy. It's because if their competition doesn't have to pay their employees premiums then they can't compete with that country and will eventually go out of business.

Many unions are making their companies uncompetitive and forcing them out of business.

You have to keep in mind a company like Hostess has to compete with companies in China that can hire people for dirt cheap. To stay in business they need to pay their employees market value. Unions want to get paid above market value. In the global economy it's getting harder and harder for union businesses to stay competitive.

This isn't the 1800's where companies were only competing with each other regionally. The game has changed and now it's global.

Americans incomes are declining because of the global economy, not because of unions.
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Why not, they have run all other industry out of the country?
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Gaining control of the education system thru teacher unions, gaining control of the workforce thru unions. Industry may run but we're still stuck with the communist unions and workers.
Why not, they have run all other industry out of the country?
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Gaining control of the education system thru teacher unions, gaining control of the workforce thru unions. Industry may run but we're still stuck with the communist unions and workers.
Why not, they have run all other industry out of the country?
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Yes, that is how it has worked out.
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Gaining control of the education system thru teacher unions, gaining control of the workforce thru unions. Industry may run but we're still stuck with the communist unions and workers.
Why not, they have run all other industry out of the country?
 Quoting: Desert Fox

 Quoting: uscrusader1


Funny, there are no "communist unions" over in communist China. Just corporate slaves in corporate sweatshops. And they get to trash the environment, just like they used to do over here.

Yes, we should go back to the "good old days" before unions. That's the solution.

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where have all the Twinkies gone?

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Gaining control of the education system thru teacher unions, gaining control of the workforce thru unions. Industry may run but we're still stuck with the communist unions and workers.
Why not, they have run all other industry out of the country?
 Quoting: Desert Fox

 Quoting: uscrusader1


Funny, there are no "communist unions" over in communist China. Just corporate slaves in corporate sweatshops. And they get to trash the environment, just like they used to do over here.

Yes, we should go back to the "good old days" before unions. That's the solution.
 Quoting: Instant Karma


You mean back when people had jobs and a life in America? I liked it then, now we have welfare and unemployment as the major source of income????????????
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who cares the delivery guys stink anyway!!
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The corporation is run by three rich white guys. This is nothing but union busting bull shit driven by corporate greed. Sure isn't do to lack of sales. It has more than 400 job openings, more than 350 for sales routes.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1326056


Route sales has a VERY high turnover rate.

International Bakers has a long history of union troubles. Just another U.S. company destroyed by the combination of Government, and Unions.
(Or in other words, destroyed by LIBERALISM)
 Quoting: PravdaDemocrat


They wouldn't be hiring if they weren't moving product. It's headquarted in Irving Texas, the bastion of corporate greed. In fact, the new CEO is a "take down guy" - cut the workforce, threaten those that remain for higher and higher production levels and line their own pockets. Nope just another bunch of rich white guys riding the wave of conservative destructionism. Corporate greed.
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This person is STUPID!!!slaphim

What part of "BANKRUPT" is it you refuse to understand?
 Quoting: PravdaDemocrat


Hey stupid, I know enough to see through an empty corporate threat. Anybody can file bankruptcy. You don't actually have to insolvent to do it. Corporations do it to devalue the company and rob pensions and healthplans and break the back of unions. American Airlines is doing the same thing right now. Guess you don't read the business pages, you corporate stooge. You deserve to make 50 Cents an hour.
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Out of business due to competition with a better product. That's how it works!
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You say it's cause of the unions. Ever think maybe it's cause of the greedy corporation that doesn't want to pay their workers a livable wage. They would be happy to pay everyone 7.00 bucks an hour and all the profits for them. Im not saying that unions are the greatest thing since sliced bread but if it wasn't for unions we would all live in poverty.
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My Dad was an engineer for hostess cake, it was so awesome having a parent who worked for hostess Im surprised Im not 500 pounds right now lol.

and they were very good to him too.
but this was the 70's and 80's
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Gaining control of the education system thru teacher unions, gaining control of the workforce thru unions. Industry may run but we're still stuck with the communist unions and workers.
Why not, they have run all other industry out of the country?
 Quoting: Desert Fox

 Quoting: uscrusader1


Funny, there are no "communist unions" over in communist China. Just corporate slaves in corporate sweatshops. And they get to trash the environment, just like they used to do over here.

Yes, we should go back to the "good old days" before unions. That's the solution.
 Quoting: Instant Karma


You mean back when people had jobs and a life in America? I liked it then, now we have welfare and unemployment as the major source of income????????????
 Quoting: Desert Fox


You're blaming unions for the state of the economy, as the corporate media has programmed you to do. Instead you should be blaming the banking/monetary system, which is the real cause of the current mess.

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Yes, the communist controlled unions.
You're blaming unions for the state of the economy, as the corporate media has programmed you to do. Instead you should be blaming the banking/monetary system, which is the real cause of the current mess.
 Quoting: Instant Karma

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Re: Hostess Cupcakes Getting Ready to Shut Down Because of Unions.[TSWB]
Hostess will close five plants
BakingBusiness.com, Oct. 12, 2012

As part of its reorganization, Hostess Brands, Inc. plans to close five baking plants, the company said in its reorganization plan.

The 150-page plan includes a wide range of initiatives aimed at putting the company on a sustainable path toward profitability. The plan was filed Oct. 10 with the U.S. Bankruptcy Court, Southern District of New York, in White Plains.

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Oh shit, I better stock up on hostess cupcakes now!!!
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Unions cannot tell a Company what to do. They can on the other hand enforce contracts and invoke legal options the employees cannot. Unions are just workers sticking together so they don't get screwed by the big guys. If necessary an arbiter is called in to settle disputes. The arbiter is a non partisan third party that can settle a dispute fairly. Companies hate them because they don't think they should have to treat you fairly with respect.
 Quoting: Major_Payne


What planet are you from?
Try the USPS. They CANNOT fire anyone, and don't even try
anymore, unless somebody goes postal.
My brother was a supervisor for them. 20% of the people
do half of the work. They have more deadwood than the GSA.
Try to discipline them, and the union ties you in knots.

I'll say it again. If you don't like how a company is
treating you, go start your OWN company.

Can't? because you're a brainless asshole who lives
paycheck to paycheck, because you cranked out more
kids than you could afford,
because you can't give up your booze, or your smokes,
or your lottery tickets, or your satellite TV,
or because you are too stupid to be able to budget and save?

Look at the Asians who come to America without a pot to
piss in or a window to throw it out of.
Within a generation they own a business of their own,
and their kids are getting straight A's in college.

Unions are populated by average or below average people
who are lucky to have a job.
They should do their jobs and try to improve themselves
if possible and realize that NOBODY owes them a job.

NOBODY OWES ANYBODY A JOB.
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Re: Hostess Cupcakes Getting Ready to Shut Down Because of Unions.[TSWB]
and so it was.....
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Re: Hostess Cupcakes Getting Ready to Shut Down Because of Unions.[TSWB]
Just order them from Canada or come for a visit and stock up.

We are still making them, although I cannot for the life of me figure out why. Who eats that crap.

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Re: Hostess Cupcakes Getting Ready to Shut Down Because of Unions.[TSWB]
/ because of the Corporate greed wanting to cut pay & benefits.

Hostess, good riddance.

Because of this corporate greed now 18,000 workers will need Obamacare. The unions were exempt. The taxpayers will have to support the company without unions.

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