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Lets assume that Israel is backed by God's divine powers, what for they need nuclear weapons then? Iran would dare to pose a threat, or ...
Lets assume that Israel really has God on its side, what for Israel needs weapons of mass destruction, nuclear weapons? And how come the Zionists fear an nuclear Iran? If you have God on your side, enemies do not exist, there is only friends and lovely neighbors ...

How dangerous is this mass brainwashed religious drivel for world peace? Where are those international religious authorities or truthful historians to address these false conceptions?

Unfortunately politics failed to prevent conflicts, they rather fueled, manipulated and abused these questions for conflicts and further cemented these misconceptions, its high time for SOSiety to get true answers ...

hf
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1948 - 4 hours after israel was declared to be a nation 5! combined arab armies - egypt syria lebanon jordan and iraq invaded israel, they had fought against a jewish population of only half a million...

guess what! we kicked thier filthy asses and captured more land!

1967- 3 very well equiped armies of jordan syria and egypt yet again tried to go to war agaisnt israel, and yet again we kicked thier asses in 3 days! capturing sinai golan and jerusalem

1973 - the armies of syria and egypt equiped with the best russian tech at the time launched a surprised attack on yom kippur.

israel managed to assemble an army and kick some arab asses again!!!!

millitary experts could only describe these 3 campaigns as miracale.
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Israel is backed by God's divine powers...the Bible clearly illustrates this FACT (NOT AN ASSUMPTION) repeatedly. And it has been demonstrated many times since 1948.
Had they no weapons, the muslims would have already overrun them. God has a timetable. Everything happens on HIS schedule. Even with nuclear weapons, it will take the Creator Almighty God to protect them when all the nations of the world come against them. After they realize Jesus is the Messiah, God's powers will be on full display, so that no one in the world doubts it.
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1948 - 4 hours after israel was declared to be a nation 5! combined arab armies - egypt syria lebanon jordan and iraq invaded israel, they had fought against a jewish population of only half a million...

guess what! we kicked thier filthy asses and captured more land!

1967- 3 very well equiped armies of jordan syria and egypt yet again tried to go to war agaisnt israel, and yet again we kicked thier asses in 3 days! capturing sinai golan and jerusalem

1973 - the armies of syria and egypt equiped with the best russian tech at the time launched a surprised attack on yom kippur.

israel managed to assemble an army and kick some arab asses again!!!!

millitary experts could only describe these 3 campaigns as miracale.
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God went out and enjoyed a few rounds of golf while Hitler turned 6,000,000 of your relatives into lampshades.

(according to the official mythology anyway)
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1948 - 4 hours after israel was declared to be a nation 5! combined arab armies - egypt syria lebanon jordan and iraq invaded israel, they had fought against a jewish population of only half a million...

guess what! we kicked thier filthy asses and captured more land!

1967- 3 very well equiped armies of jordan syria and egypt yet again tried to go to war agaisnt israel, and yet again we kicked thier asses in 3 days! capturing sinai golan and jerusalem

1973 - the armies of syria and egypt equiped with the best russian tech at the time launched a surprised attack on yom kippur.

israel managed to assemble an army and kick some arab asses again!!!!

millitary experts could only describe these 3 campaigns as miracale.
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There is a big difference of being attacked or to attack another much bigger and more powerful country ... there is a thin line between belief and fanatism ... i wish your leaders all Love, Wisdom, Truth and Light to work for the Kingdom of God and His Righteousness for being good boys and good girls

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israel is backed by the divine powers of gods US military hardware
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israel is backed by the divine powers of gods US military hardware
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Thanks for the laugh, bro smile_kiss
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israel is backed by the divine powers of gods US military hardware
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Thanks for the laugh, bro smile_kiss
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do some research. apart from planes and helicopters the idf is mostly israeli made.

+ 3 german u boats
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1948 - 4 hours after israel was declared to be a nation 5! combined arab armies - egypt syria lebanon jordan and iraq invaded israel, they had fought against a jewish population of only half a million...

guess what! we kicked thier filthy asses and captured more land!

1967- 3 very well equiped armies of jordan syria and egypt yet again tried to go to war agaisnt israel, and yet again we kicked thier asses in 3 days! capturing sinai golan and jerusalem

1973 - the armies of syria and egypt equiped with the best russian tech at the time launched a surprised attack on yom kippur.

israel managed to assemble an army and kick some arab asses again!!!!

millitary experts could only describe these 3 campaigns as miracale.
 Quoting: DPS


God went out and enjoyed a few rounds of golf while Hitler turned 6,000,000 of your relatives into lampshades.

(according to the official mythology anyway)
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and right after that we got our holy beloved country back :D
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Should we assume a divine country should generate divine results or should we assume a divine country should generate worldwide turmoil?

You choose.
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So called "Israel" (the nation state) will fall and surprisingly to the King of the North (European Union). Wait for it! Most on this board will live to see it.
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israel is backed by the divine powers of gods US military hardware
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Thanks for the laugh, bro smile_kiss
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do some research. apart from planes and helicopters the idf is mostly israeli made.

+ 3 german u boats
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My friend, will your planes, helicopters and u boats, ... also carry the consequences of your decisions? There is no tank, drone or radar yet invented to bear psychological, spiritual, health-based, ... repercussions on your life for every decision you take, executed by God's law of cause and effect ...

I suggest to you to do some research in this field, because it would help you to understand, if its worth for you to be forced to suffer for a case you don't understand ...

But hey, we're not perfect yet, we all have to learn lots of things, thats why we're here ... good luck, my friend ... hope you've got what i wanted to tell you ...

hf
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Re: Lets assume that Israel is backed by God's divine powers, what for they need nuclear weapons then? Iran would dare to pose a threat, or ...
1948 - 4 hours after israel was declared to be a nation 5! combined arab armies - egypt syria lebanon jordan and iraq invaded israel, they had fought against a jewish population of only half a million...

guess what! we kicked thier filthy asses and captured more land!

1967- 3 very well equiped armies of jordan syria and egypt yet again tried to go to war agaisnt israel, and yet again we kicked thier asses in 3 days! capturing sinai golan and jerusalem

1973 - the armies of syria and egypt equiped with the best russian tech at the time launched a surprised attack on yom kippur.

israel managed to assemble an army and kick some arab asses again!!!!

millitary experts could only describe these 3 campaigns as miracale.
 Quoting: DPS


God went out and enjoyed a few rounds of golf while Hitler turned 6,000,000 of your relatives into lampshades.

(according to the official mythology anyway)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25388275


and right after that we got our holy beloved country back :D
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So those 6,000,000 dead Jews were God's down payment on the real estate?

Nice :D
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Lets assume that Israel really has God on its side, what for Israel needs weapons of mass destruction,..

hf
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well.....

uh,

good question
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Nukes arent the problem Iran has enough biological weapons to wipe out the entire planet
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1948 - 4 hours after israel was declared to be a nation 5! combined arab armies - egypt syria lebanon jordan and iraq invaded israel, they had fought against a jewish population of only half a million...

guess what! we kicked thier filthy asses and captured more land!

1967- 3 very well equiped armies of jordan syria and egypt yet again tried to go to war agaisnt israel, and yet again we kicked thier asses in 3 days! capturing sinai golan and jerusalem

1973 - the armies of syria and egypt equiped with the best russian tech at the time launched a surprised attack on yom kippur.

israel managed to assemble an army and kick some arab asses again!!!!

millitary experts could only describe these 3 campaigns as miracale.
 Quoting: DPS


God went out and enjoyed a few rounds of golf while Hitler turned 6,000,000 of your relatives into lampshades.

(according to the official mythology anyway)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25388275


and right after that we got our holy beloved country back :D
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You got no Power in the arena of battle, you cowards will be eliminated from root to branch. You con't fight against a lightly armed Hezbollah what chance do you have against another. Rubbish cowards you got yourselves in a corner, there is no more exodus. Your handlers have abandoned you and left you for sacrifice. Organ harvesting, robbing, looting and thieving is over.


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Nukes arent the problem Iran has enough biological weapons to wipe out the entire planet
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When all else fails, just make stuff up.
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this time israel will be nearly all but wiped out, but then God will take over the fight and kill all those who attacked Israel....watch it happen
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Nukes arent the problem Iran has enough biological weapons to wipe out the entire planet
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When all else fails, just make stuff up.
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Tell that to the 400 thousand dead american soldiers from the first iraq war....
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Re: Lets assume that Israel is backed by God's divine powers, what for they need nuclear weapons then? Iran would dare to pose a threat, or ...
Lets assume that Israel really has God on its side, what for Israel needs weapons of mass destruction, nuclear weapons? And how come the Zionists fear an nuclear Iran? If you have God on your side, enemies do not exist, there is only friends and lovely neighbors ...

How dangerous is this mass brainwashed religious drivel for world peace? Where are those international religious authorities or truthful historians to address these false conceptions?

Unfortunately politics failed to prevent conflicts, they rather fueled, manipulated and abused these questions for conflicts and further cemented these misconceptions, its high time for SOSiety to get true answers ...

hf
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Well lets see if God is pure energy, then Nukes have lots of energy...
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Nukes arent the problem Iran has enough biological weapons to wipe out the entire planet
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When all else fails, just make stuff up.
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Tell that to the 400 thousand dead american soldiers from the first iraq war....
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What?
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this time israel will be nearly all but wiped out, but then God will take over the fight and kill all those who attacked Israel....watch it happen
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Dont you people realize that God did not talk about a physical Israel, when he referred to the people of Israel. He spoke about a spiritual Israel of people who work for global peace, be it Muslims, Christians, Jews, Buddhists, Blacks, Whites Chinese, ...

All the people in the world who work non-violently for global peace and for the Kingdom of God and His Righteousness on Earth are members of the people of Israel who will be defended by God.

The fate of that tiny racist, war mongering country lead by zionist atheists somewhere in the middle east is sealed, if they openly wage war ... and if you expect divine intervention on behalf of the zionist leaders, its just ridiculous ... Bibi did not amass weapons of mass destruction for no reason, he knew beforehand that he couldn't count on divine protection for his sinister plans ;-)

For Benjamin Netanyahu it will be the end anyway, either on the battlefield or at the International Criminal Court in The Hague [link to www.icc-cpi.int]

I hope its clear now.

hf
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Lets assume that Israel really has God on its side, what for Israel needs weapons of mass destruction, nuclear weapons? And how come the Zionists fear an nuclear Iran? If you have God on your side, enemies do not exist, there is only friends and lovely neighbors ...

How dangerous is this mass brainwashed religious drivel for world peace? Where are those international religious authorities or truthful historians to address these false conceptions?

Unfortunately politics failed to prevent conflicts, they rather fueled, manipulated and abused these questions for conflicts and further cemented these misconceptions, its high time for SOSiety to get true answers ...

hf
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Well lets see if God is pure energy, then Nukes have lots of energy...
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You're right, but if you kill millions of people while playing with the fire power of God, He will hold you responsible and you'll suffer big time, nobody has the right to kill other humans for whatever reason ...

hf
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Israel/Jerusalem is Mystery Babylon.

God, YHVH, will restore Jerusalem to how HE wants it to be. It happens at the very end of this age... after Lucifer has arrived to claim Jerusalem as his.

This earthly appearance of Israel that you see today is nothing more than a demonic imitation of YHVH's Jerusalem. Jerusalem is YHVH's home and it belongs to HIM. He will come to reclaim it from those so-called "Jews" that call it theirs..

These so-called "Jews" are not the true Judah at all. You cannot identify today's "Jew" as the only Israelite because there are 12 tribes of Israel. A Jew is supposed to reference those of the tribe of Judah. Well, there are 11 other tribes and the 12 tribes are scattered all over the world... and have no idea of who they are.

The impostors infiltrated Israel along with Judah and Benjamin and after a few hundred years you can no longer tell who's who anymore.


So, no, Israel does NOT have YHVH on its side.
He hates everything about that so-called "nation". Why do you think the Talmudic "Jews" hate Yeshua the Christ so much? Because Yeshua wants to destroy them. And He will. Haven't you read it?




Revelation

18:1 And after these things I saw another angel come down from heaven, having great power; and the earth was lightened with his glory.

18:2 And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird.

18:3 For all nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, and the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth are waxed rich through the abundance of her delicacies.

18:4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.

18:5 For her sins have reached unto heaven, and God hath remembered her iniquities.

18:6 Reward her even as she rewarded you, and double unto her double according to her works: in the cup which she hath filled fill to her double.

18:7 How much she hath glorified herself, and lived deliciously, so much torment and sorrow give her: for she saith in her heart, I sit a queen, and am no widow, and shall see no sorrow.

18:8 Therefore shall her plagues come in one day, death, and mourning, and famine; and she shall be utterly burned with fire: for strong is the Lord God who judgeth her.

18:9 And the kings of the earth, who have committed fornication and lived deliciously with her, shall bewail her, and lament for her, when they shall see the smoke of her burning,

18:10 Standing afar off for the fear of her torment, saying, Alas, alas that great city Babylon, that mighty city! for in one hour is thy judgment come.

18:11 And the merchants of the earth shall weep and mourn over her; for no man buyeth their merchandise any more:

18:12 The merchandise of gold, and silver, and precious stones, and of pearls, and fine linen, and purple, and silk, and scarlet, and all thyine wood, and all manner vessels of ivory, and all manner vessels of most precious wood, and of brass, and iron, and marble,

18:13 And cinnamon, and odours, and ointments, and frankincense, and wine, and oil, and fine flour, and wheat, and beasts, and sheep, and horses, and chariots, and slaves, and souls of men.

18:14 And the fruits that thy soul lusted after are departed from thee, and all things which were dainty and goodly are departed from thee, and thou shalt find them no more at all.

18:15 The merchants of these things, which were made rich by her, shall stand afar off for the fear of her torment, weeping and wailing,

18:16 And saying, Alas, alas that great city, that was clothed in fine linen, and purple, and scarlet, and decked with gold, and precious stones, and pearls!

18:17 For in one hour so great riches is come to nought. And every shipmaster, and all the company in ships, and sailors, and as many as trade by sea, stood afar off,

18:18 And cried when they saw the smoke of her burning, saying, What city is like unto this great city!

18:19 And they cast dust on their heads, and cried, weeping and wailing, saying, Alas, alas that great city, wherein were made rich all that had ships in the sea by reason of her costliness! for in one hour is she made desolate.

18:20 Rejoice over her, thou heaven, and ye holy apostles and prophets; for God hath avenged you on her.

18:21 And a mighty angel took up a stone like a great millstone, and cast it into the sea, saying, Thus with violence shall that great city Babylon be thrown down, and shall be found no more at all.

18:22 And the voice of harpers, and musicians, and of pipers, and trumpeters, shall be heard no more at all in thee; and no craftsman, of whatsoever craft he be, shall be found any more in thee; and the sound of a millstone shall be heard no more at all in thee;

18:23 And the light of a candle shall shine no more at all in thee; and the voice of the bridegroom and of the bride shall be heard no more at all in thee: for thy merchants were the great men of the earth; for by thy sorceries were all nations deceived.

18:24 And in her was found the blood of prophets, and of saints, and of all that were slain upon the earth.





Verse 18:7 proclaims Jerusalem's arrogance, as it sits, and claims that it will see no sorrow because it sits over the world like a queen.

God has other ideas for her. He intends to see her burn.
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yes don't worry about a thing. God will take care of them. America can cut off aid now. God will genocide the iranians if they attack israel.
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yes don't worry about a thing. God will take care of them. America can cut off aid now. God will genocide the iranians if they attack israel.
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God will be destroying both Israel AND Iran.

Just you wait and see. LOL
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What's the most recent Kissinger quote? 10 years?
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Lets assume that Israel really has God on its side, what for Israel needs weapons of mass destruction, nuclear weapons? And how come the Zionists fear an nuclear Iran? If you have God on your side, enemies do not exist, there is only friends and lovely neighbors ...

How dangerous is this mass brainwashed religious drivel for world peace? Where are those international religious authorities or truthful historians to address these false conceptions?

Unfortunately politics failed to prevent conflicts, they rather fueled, manipulated and abused these questions for conflicts and further cemented these misconceptions, its high time for SOSiety to get true answers ...

hf
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THe fact that God is on their side doesn't imply that they should be passive. Israel's enemies don't think that God is on their side, because they think that Allah and HaShem are one and the same. As a result there's this constant danger of an enemy attack. By getting nuclear weapons Israel diminishes an enemy attack to a great extent. You may think: but why don't they just rely on God? Because in case of war there's only one outcome: Israel will win, however, that doesn't mean that there won't be casualties and deaths on their side. With nuclear weapons you've no wars and thus no losses of live.

Imagine you've got a car and God is on your side. Suppose you hear a rumour about someone wanting to steal your car, would leave the car unlocked (after all, God will intervene) or would you lock the car and get a car alarm? You get the point?
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yes don't worry about a thing. God will take care of them. America can cut off aid now. God will genocide the iranians if they attack israel.
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Cool

I was wondering when God was gonna step up and start footing the bills.
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Lets assume that Israel really has God on its side, what for Israel needs weapons of mass destruction, nuclear weapons? And how come the Zionists fear an nuclear Iran? If you have God on your side, enemies do not exist, there is only friends and lovely neighbors ...

How dangerous is this mass brainwashed religious drivel for world peace? Where are those international religious authorities or truthful historians to address these false conceptions?

Unfortunately politics failed to prevent conflicts, they rather fueled, manipulated and abused these questions for conflicts and further cemented these misconceptions, its high time for SOSiety to get true answers ...

hf
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THe fact that God is on their side doesn't imply that they should be passive. Israel's enemies don't think that God is on their side, because they think that Allah and HaShem are one and the same. As a result there's this constant danger of an enemy attack. By getting nuclear weapons Israel diminishes an enemy attack to a great extent. You may think: but why don't they just rely on God? Because in case of war there's only one outcome: Israel will win, however, that doesn't mean that there won't be casualties and deaths on their side. With nuclear weapons you've no wars and thus no losses of live.

Imagine you've got a car and God is on your side. Suppose you hear a rumour about someone wanting to steal your car, would leave the car unlocked (after all, God will intervene) or would you lock the car and get a car alarm? You get the point?
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So you say you'll know the outcome of the war with Iran ...

Lets watch and see

popcorn hf
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Israel/Jerusalem is Mystery Babylon.

God, YHVH, will restore Jerusalem to how HE wants it to be. It happens at the very end of this age... after Lucifer has arrived to claim Jerusalem as his.

This earthly appearance of Israel that you see today is nothing more than a demonic imitation of YHVH's Jerusalem. Jerusalem is YHVH's home and it belongs to HIM. He will come to reclaim it from those so-called "Jews" that call it theirs..

These so-called "Jews" are not the true Judah at all. You cannot identify today's "Jew" as the only Israelite because there are 12 tribes of Israel. A Jew is supposed to reference those of the tribe of Judah. Well, there are 11 other tribes and the 12 tribes are scattered all over the world... and have no idea of who they are.

The impostors infiltrated Israel along with Judah and Benjamin and after a few hundred years you can no longer tell who's who anymore.


So, no, Israel does NOT have YHVH on its side.
He hates everything about that so-called "nation". Why do you think the Talmudic "Jews" hate Yeshua the Christ so much? Because Yeshua wants to destroy them. And He will. Haven't you read it?




Revelation

18:1 And after these things I saw another angel come down from heaven, having great power; and the earth was lightened with his glory.

18:2 And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird.

18:3 For all nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, and the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth are waxed rich through the abundance of her delicacies.

18:4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.

18:5 For her sins have reached unto heaven, and God hath remembered her iniquities.

18:6 Reward her even as she rewarded you, and double unto her double according to her works: in the cup which she hath filled fill to her double.

18:7 How much she hath glorified herself, and lived deliciously, so much torment and sorrow give her: for she saith in her heart, I sit a queen, and am no widow, and shall see no sorrow.

18:8 Therefore shall her plagues come in one day, death, and mourning, and famine; and she shall be utterly burned with fire: for strong is the Lord God who judgeth her.

18:9 And the kings of the earth, who have committed fornication and lived deliciously with her, shall bewail her, and lament for her, when they shall see the smoke of her burning,

18:10 Standing afar off for the fear of her torment, saying, Alas, alas that great city Babylon, that mighty city! for in one hour is thy judgment come.

18:11 And the merchants of the earth shall weep and mourn over her; for no man buyeth their merchandise any more:

18:12 The merchandise of gold, and silver, and precious stones, and of pearls, and fine linen, and purple, and silk, and scarlet, and all thyine wood, and all manner vessels of ivory, and all manner vessels of most precious wood, and of brass, and iron, and marble,

18:13 And cinnamon, and odours, and ointments, and frankincense, and wine, and oil, and fine flour, and wheat, and beasts, and sheep, and horses, and chariots, and slaves, and souls of men.

18:14 And the fruits that thy soul lusted after are departed from thee, and all things which were dainty and goodly are departed from thee, and thou shalt find them no more at all.

18:15 The merchants of these things, which were made rich by her, shall stand afar off for the fear of her torment, weeping and wailing,

18:16 And saying, Alas, alas that great city, that was clothed in fine linen, and purple, and scarlet, and decked with gold, and precious stones, and pearls!

18:17 For in one hour so great riches is come to nought. And every shipmaster, and all the company in ships, and sailors, and as many as trade by sea, stood afar off,

18:18 And cried when they saw the smoke of her burning, saying, What city is like unto this great city!

18:19 And they cast dust on their heads, and cried, weeping and wailing, saying, Alas, alas that great city, wherein were made rich all that had ships in the sea by reason of her costliness! for in one hour is she made desolate.

18:20 Rejoice over her, thou heaven, and ye holy apostles and prophets; for God hath avenged you on her.

18:21 And a mighty angel took up a stone like a great millstone, and cast it into the sea, saying, Thus with violence shall that great city Babylon be thrown down, and shall be found no more at all.

18:22 And the voice of harpers, and musicians, and of pipers, and trumpeters, shall be heard no more at all in thee; and no craftsman, of whatsoever craft he be, shall be found any more in thee; and the sound of a millstone shall be heard no more at all in thee;

18:23 And the light of a candle shall shine no more at all in thee; and the voice of the bridegroom and of the bride shall be heard no more at all in thee: for thy merchants were the great men of the earth; for by thy sorceries were all nations deceived.

18:24 And in her was found the blood of prophets, and of saints, and of all that were slain upon the earth.





Verse 18:7 proclaims Jerusalem's arrogance, as it sits, and claims that it will see no sorrow because it sits over the world like a queen.

God has other ideas for her. He intends to see her burn.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2566322


I guess you're a christian. In that case i'd suggest you to study the bible (better).
I'm a messianic Jew and as such i can tell that God will restore Israel in two phases:
1) first physically (from '48 and ongoing)
2) later on He will restore them spiritually

This is the essence of Ezekiel 36: 24-27.

Mystery Babylon, a religious system, will be destroyed during the first half of the Tribulation by ten kings. This can't be Jerusalem, because only during Jacob's trouble they will need to flee when the antichrist will persecute them for 3,5 yrs.
Rev 18 on the other hand is a city and the seat of the antichrist.

According to the Tanach Babylon (mentioned in Rev 18) will never be inhabited again: "And Babylon, the glory of kingdoms, the beauty of the Chaldeans' pride, shall be as when God overthrew Sodom and Gomorrah. It shall never be inhibited, neither shall it be dwelt in from generation to generation" (Isaiah 13:19-20)

From this verse it becomes clear that Babylon the city is not Jerusalem, because the Messiah will reign their for a 1000 yrs.





GLP