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If you profess the Eucharist is not true, you are a false prophet

 
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You read my threads! The messages from Heaven will touch
your heart. Pray, ask Our Lord, is it heretical Protestantism He is returning to proclaim is His Church?

How can He do that, they're divided by the thousands and
only agree on one thing, the RCC is the whore of Babylon.

Thanks for your endorsement but please, you can, lose the vulgar language.

Remember the Eucharist when we all experience the Great
Warning.
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OP, adoration of the Eucharist as the Body of Christ is a gift that not all are blessed with.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25555744


Hi,

If we keep up the discussion, share the Holy Eucharist is the summit of the faith, people will remember when the Great Warning happens, yes?
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Yes, but that is God's Providence to bring the scattered sheep back into the fold. You should not expect everyone to have attained 'the summit' when we are all an ongoing project of Redemption.
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The messages from Heaven say share them.

I don't think God wants us to remain silent especially with
Great Tribulation almost here. How can I be quiet
when fallen away Catholics are preaching a false end time and the same about the Millennium?

Please share, if you would, why it is important to receive the most Holy Eucharist.
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The Eucharist is a Ritual Sacrament.

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I see so it is not real then, just some hand waving and words, to put people in mind of a real Eucharist.
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So, you are a cannibal? If you actually believe this, you are a freak.... or Catholic, same thing..

and btw, where is the word Eucharist mention in the Bible, and where does it say Jesus flesh BECAME a cracker?.......pedophile diots
 Quoting: Beachbums


You have to come higher, accept something you don't see
on a human level. The Eucharist is not cannibalism. God
decided this, it is supernatural. The bread and wine become
Our Lord at the priest's words of consecration. You accept
the Incarnation not fully understanding? Seee...you show
faith. Have faith, God can come to us as He wishes.

Prefigured in the Old Testament and constantly spoken of in the Gospel, there are many verses about the Eucharist. Read John 6. Paul states the word for the Eucharist in 1 Cor 11:24. Eucharist means to give thanks.

To follow, in 1 Corinthians 11:27 Pauls tells you, unless you discern it is the "body" of Our Lord, you bring judgment
on yourself.

1 Cor 11:24
And giving thanks, broke, and said: Take ye, and eat: this is my body, which shall be delivered for you: this do for the commemoration of me.

[link to www.drbo.org]
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OP, adoration of the Eucharist as the Body of Christ is a gift that not all are blessed with.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25555744


Hi,

If we keep up the discussion, share the Holy Eucharist is the summit of the faith, people will remember when the Great Warning happens, yes?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20541213



Yes, but that is God's Providence to bring the scattered sheep back into the fold. You should not expect everyone to have attained 'the summit' when we are all an ongoing project of Redemption.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25555744


The messages from Heaven say share them.

I don't think God wants us to remain silent especially with
Great Tribulation almost here. How can I be quiet
when fallen away Catholics are preaching a false end time and the same about the Millennium?

Please share, if you would, why it is important to receive the most Holy Eucharist.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20541213


"why it is important to receive the most Holy Eucharist."

"Then Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except ye eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, ye have no life in you."


John 6:53


I agree with you, OP, but I think you have been blessed with an insight that not all that many have, and I don't expect others to have that same level that you yourself have. 'Sharing the messages from Heaven' is a worthy ambition, but throwing pearls before swine isn't worth it.

hf
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Hi Mary,

How are you? I hope you are doing well. While I disagree with your content most the time, I certainly admire your persistence.

Hope you have a wonderful day.
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I am okay, I hope you are too? Be happy you can write
well Pydeau, my kids are journalism majors and correct me on
my style of writing. They say, "Mother, you cannot
write like you speak."

If the Great Warning never happens, all my effort is
for nothing. It can't be long, Joey Lamengeno of Garbandal
fame is 84. He is to receive his sight back at the time
of the Great Miracle, which takes place within a year of
the Great Warning.
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Yeah, I'm doing well enough. Some struggles here and there but He is keeping me strong to overcome them.

As for writing well, my mom had me reading by the age of 3. I was reading novels by 7. I honestly can't recall a time when I couldn't read a write.

It just takes practice and a desire to improve. Sadly most the kids these days simply don't care. They reply with things like, "As long as people know what I mean, that's all that matters." Sorry, kids, that's not ALL that matters.

Anyway, I've got to get to work. You have a safe and happy day, dear.
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we call it the Lord's Supper and we do it in remembrance of our Lord and his sacrifice as in Luke 22:17.

Whether you look at it as the body of Christ either spiritually or physically it is still the body and blood of Christ.

I have taken a Eurchrist or two as well as a Lord's Supper or two. The ceremony is just worded a bit differently (and in different langauges) it is still wine and crackers. Spiritaully or physically it does remind us of the sacrifice of out Lord


However, my personal position on that is in John 6

31 Our fathers ate the manna, in the wilderness; as it is written, He gave them bread from heaven to eat. 32 Jesus said to them: Verily, verily, I say to you, Moses gave you not the bread from heaven; but my Father giveth you the real bread from heaven. 33 For the bread of God is, he that came down from heaven, and giveth life to the world. 34 They say to him: Our Lord, give us at all times this bread. 35 Jesus said to them: I am the bread of life: he that cometh to me, shall not hunger; and he that believeth on me, shall not thirst, for ever. 36 But I said to you, That ye have seen me, and do not believe. 37 All that my Father gave me, will come to me: and him, that cometh to me, I will not cast out. 38 For I came down from heaven, not to do my own pleasure, but the pleasure of him that sent me. 39 And this is the pleasure of him that sent me, that whatever he hath given me, I should lose nothing of it, but should raise it up at the last day. 40 For this is the pleasure of my Father, that every one who seeth the Son, and believeth on him, should have life eternal; and I will raise him up at the last day.

That is the real blood and body of Christ

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Sorry, cross top wafer placebo is not a eucharist; a true sacrament may be though.

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Our Lord told you the truth...
Why do you deny the most Holy Eucharist then Amazing Grace?

It takes total faith, 100%, to accept God's presence in the consecrated host because you do not see a change Amazing Grace.

What say you? Jesus wants you to believe Amazing Grace.

I've tried to help Once4All, he can ask Our Lord if He is truly present in the Eucharist. He will not do it. Come to find out finally, Eddy left Catholicism to preach you do not need the faith or the Eucharist. You only need the Bible and your personal interpretation of it. Lies, lies, lies.

Onc4All refuses to discuss prophecy or Catholicism. He'll
bump up and comment on the heresies in Protestant threads and remains silent, will not say a word in reply on the current PROTESTANT messages from Heaven you share with him. He doesn't like the mention of unity for all Christians. This has always been God's plan. It is going to happen, Heaven says so...ohyeah

Eddy come home and you too Daughter in NY.
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This post borders on being reported for abuse as it calls out other posters in ad hominem attacks.
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Amazing Grace is kind and professed faith is more important than signs on the forum today. I am trying to help her see the biggest example of faith, I tried with Once4All. It takes faith to believe in the Eucharist.

Are you trying to get me banned from GLP? If you are, not very nice Life and Love.

When are you going to come to believe? You talk of visitng
with priests...come along brother. Ask them if you do not
believe my sharing about the Eucharist.
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Mary, please read what I actually write. I gave you a warning that your thread is abusive. Obviously I did not report it, else this thread would not still be here.

As for talking with Catholic priests, I do that from time to time. The last time was last Saturday for lunch. I even talk to them about you.
 Quoting: Life and Love


Life & Love,

I can't get through to Once4All even when I speak from the heart to him. He constantly calls me a liar and never explains what I am lying about and SoulWinner called me an "ill" name in Eddy's thread. He did say he was sorry.

Why did you not warn them?
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I'm sorry there are more things going on here besides the difference in the Lord's Supper and the Eucharist and it isn't much.

I would go into it, but I'll just bless everyone in name of our Living Saviour
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Saying all of that I do admire my Catholic brothers and sisters in their standing up for the poor and oppressed and quite a few other positions.

Those who practice those beliefs and commandments of our Lord are indeed blessed.

May the Grace of our Lord be with you
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How could I be a false prophet, if I'm not a prophet at all?

Can you explain that one?
watching the "run up" to the elections and the "hopes and dreams" that are built as a result is like watching a dead mouse that is still able to make his exercise wheel go around because his nerves are still twitching that familiar motion...
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Life & Love,

I can't get through to Once4All even when I speak from the heart to him. He constantly calls me a liar and never explains what I am lying about and SoulWinner called me an "ill" name in Eddy's thread. He did say he was sorry.

Why did you not warn them?
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Perhaps there are good reasons for someone's non-responsiveness.

You ask about my not warning them. Had I seen the behavior you described, which I did not, I would have sent a PM as I have done in the past on other matters.

It's all pretty simple really.
We become like that to which we are devoted. Choose wisely.
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How could I be a false prophet, if I'm not a prophet at all?

Can you explain that one?
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You are not a prophet. The nearest thing we have so far are meteorologists. All others are false.
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So, you are a cannibal? If you actually believe this, you are a freak.... or Catholic, same thing..

and btw, where is the word Eucharist mention in the Bible, and where does it say Jesus flesh BECAME a cracker?.......pedophile diots
 Quoting: Beachbums


You have to come higher, accept something you don't see
on a human level. The Eucharist is not cannibalism. God
decided this, it is supernatural. The bread and wine become
Our Lord at the priest's words of consecration. You accept
the Incarnation not fully understanding? Seee...you show
faith. Have faith, God can come to us as He wishes.

Prefigured in the Old Testament and constantly spoken of in the Gospel, there are many verses about the Eucharist. Read John 6. Paul states the word for the Eucharist in 1 Cor 11:24. Eucharist means to give thanks.

To follow, in 1 Corinthians 11:27 Pauls tells you, unless you discern it is the "body" of Our Lord, you bring judgment
on yourself.

1 Cor 11:24
And giving thanks, broke, and said: Take ye, and eat: this is my body, which shall be delivered for you: this do for the commemoration of me.

[link to www.drbo.org]
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You Catholics are really messed up, wearing phallic symbols around your necks, bowing down to images, worshiping Mary as the Mother of "God." Read your Bible, look at different Translations, pull out a Diaglott and an Interlinear, look through some encyclopedias, study history, if you do, you will learn.
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devils can appear as angels of Light in the minds and eyes of people.
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You Catholics are really messed up, wearing phallic symbols around your necks, bowing down to images, worshiping Mary as the Mother of "God." Read your Bible, look at different Translations, pull out a Diaglott and an Interlinear, look through some encyclopedias, study history, if you do, you will learn.
 Quoting: Beachbums


Beachbums,

You are incorrect brother, Our Lord's body on the cross is the event, you see His suffering total sacrifice for humanity. It should NEVER be forgotten.

No one bows down to images except an image of God the Father, God the Son and God the Father. "Images", statues are like photos, they are reminders of who we love.

Let go of another protest, no one worships Mary. It would be good to love and honor her as Jesus does. You can speak to her in prayer, do it hf Remember, the Commandment, we must honor and love our parents. Yes, there may have been exceptions since 1517. Mary cannot appear to Protestants because they profess heresies. Protestants will see her at or after the Great Warning when all Christianity believes the same and the non-Christians convert. Sad, not everyone will.

The Bible is a Catholic book. Pope Damasus in 383, determined the Canon. Read the first Bible, the Latin
Vulgate. A word for word translation of the Vulgate is the
Douay-Rheims Bible, here it is... [link to www.drbo.org]

Modern translations have been altered, added to, taken away.
One old translation, the Protestant KJV, there are thousands
of changes.


blessings,
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grizzy If you would like to know more about the Roman Catholic "church" from a biblical point of view.

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The Bible is a Catholic book. Pope Damasus in 383, determined the Canon. Read the first Bible, the Latin
Vulgate. A word for word translation of the Vulgate is the
Douay-Rheims Bible, here it is... [link to www.drbo.org]

Modern translations have been altered, added to, taken away.
One old translation, the Protestant KJV, there are thousands
of changes.


blessings,
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20541213


Interesting, the Jesuits have been creating the new versions. There was at least one Jesuit on the translation board of the NIV. These new translations use the same manuscripts as the Latin or Catholic versions. Only the KJV uses a different ms.

It's true there are many changes to the KJV not found in the earlier Catholic versions. However, this doesnt mean the Catholic version is correct. The KJV was produced from ms that came west after the fall of Constantinople to Islam in 1453. Those Greek ms were preserved. The Latin ms were held among Vatican officials and tampered with. Thus the KJV 1611, as with the earlier Geneva 1560 bibles, were made from the preserved Greek ms.

KJV NT origins

[link to conservapedia.com]

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

KJV OT origins

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

ms history

[link to www.biblebelievers.com]




KJV History


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Uh oh, what can you do? I am banned once again from
speaking in the Protestant threads. They won't
discuss the faith, they are closed.

I thought GLP was a discussion forum? I typed my
response to help and hit post...Banned...

Here it is.

From [link to sacredsandwich.com] , a few samples of what people today would likely have said to the apostle Paul in the first century:

How arrogant of Mr. Apostle to think he has the right to judge these people and label them accursed. Isn’t that God’s job? Regardless of this circumcision issue, these Galatians believe in Jesus just as much as he does, and it is very Pharisaical to condemn them just because they differ on such a secondary issue. Personally, I don’t want a sharp instrument anywhere near my zipper, but that doesn’t give me the right to judge how someone else follows Christ. Can’t we just focus on our common commitment to Christ and furthering His kingdom, instead of tearing down fellow believers over petty doctrinal matters?

I’ve seen other dubious articles by Paul Apostle in the past, and frankly I’m surprised you felt that his recurrent criticisms of the Church deserved to be printed in your magazine. Mr. Apostle for many years now has had a penchant for thinking he has a right to “mark” certain Christian teachers who don’t agree with his biblical position. Certainly I commend him for desiring to stay faithful to God’s word, but I think he errs in being so dogmatic about his views to the point where he feels free to openly attack his brethren. His attitude makes it difficult to fully unify the Church, and gives credence to the opposition’s view that Christians are judgmental, arrogant people who never show God’s love.
 Quoting: Keep2theCode


OP (Keep2theCode),

Don't you see your objection to Paul, saying he is wrong means your profession of "Bible Alone" as your lone authority is wrong too! The Bible is inerrant. Sola Scriptura, from Martin Luther is the big fat lie.

The Epistles, the letters are a help, a building up of the
faith, singular, to the first Christians. They are corrections for anyone falling away from Apostolic teachings.

Paul reminds the first Christians in 1 Cor 11:27, unless you discern it is the "body" of Our Lord in the Eucharist, you bring judgment on yourself. Pretty serious brother. Do not ignore that verse. An early reference to the Eucharist is "breaking bread."

[link to www.drbo.org]
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The practice of the eucharist predates Christianity. This is why the Bible condemns the wafer cake to the Queen of Heaven. The Catholics have only used a gnostic doctrine founded upon a Bible text which does not say what they claim 1.e. gnosticism.
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devils can appear as angels of Light in the minds and eyes of people.
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The Virgin Mary is a demon.
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Uh oh, what can you do? I am banned once again from
speaking in the Protestant threads. They won't
discuss the faith, they are closed.

I thought GLP was a discussion forum? I typed my
response to help and hit post...Banned...

Here it is.

From [link to sacredsandwich.com] , a few samples of what people today would likely have said to the apostle Paul in the first century:

How arrogant of Mr. Apostle to think he has the right to judge these people and label them accursed. Isn’t that God’s job? Regardless of this circumcision issue, these Galatians believe in Jesus just as much as he does, and it is very Pharisaical to condemn them just because they differ on such a secondary issue. Personally, I don’t want a sharp instrument anywhere near my zipper, but that doesn’t give me the right to judge how someone else follows Christ. Can’t we just focus on our common commitment to Christ and furthering His kingdom, instead of tearing down fellow believers over petty doctrinal matters?

I’ve seen other dubious articles by Paul Apostle in the past, and frankly I’m surprised you felt that his recurrent criticisms of the Church deserved to be printed in your magazine. Mr. Apostle for many years now has had a penchant for thinking he has a right to “mark” certain Christian teachers who don’t agree with his biblical position. Certainly I commend him for desiring to stay faithful to God’s word, but I think he errs in being so dogmatic about his views to the point where he feels free to openly attack his brethren. His attitude makes it difficult to fully unify the Church, and gives credence to the opposition’s view that Christians are judgmental, arrogant people who never show God’s love.
 Quoting: Keep2theCode


OP (Keep2theCode),

Don't you see your objection to Paul, saying he is wrong means your profession of "Bible Alone" as your lone authority is wrong too! The Bible is inerrant. Sola Scriptura, from Martin Luther is the big fat lie.

The Epistles, the letters are a help, a building up of the
faith, singular, to the first Christians. They are corrections for anyone falling away from Apostolic teachings.

Paul reminds the first Christians in 1 Cor 11:27, unless you discern it is the "body" of Our Lord in the Eucharist, you bring judgment on yourself. Pretty serious brother. Do not ignore that verse. An early reference to the Eucharist is "breaking bread."

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They banned the Catholic, did they? Well, i'm sorry to hear that. There's no reason for that. And you are right about Paul. Those first & second century Christians accepted Paul, just as they did the virgin birth of Jesus. He's an apostle!
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I'm right there with you. Its all about the eucharist. I am also preparing for the warning. Apparently after the warning, all christians will be united as one. We'll all be catholic again. Hey, can you hit me up with some links on where you get messages from? I have a couple websites, i'd really appreciate it if you could add more to my list.
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Amazing Grace,

Hey dear sister, do not shut me out. Reply
please, would you?

If you say you don't need proof, you walk by faith,
your rejection of the most Holy Eucharist shows
you do not mean it.

The "reformers"...right...rejected the Eucharist beginning in 1517 because they denied the Church and the New Covenant ministerial priesthood and could not confect the Eucharist.
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the Eucharist is indeed an alchemical formulation which anyone can extract from the Holy Bible and formulate.
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The practice of the eucharist predates Christianity. This is why the Bible condemns the wafer cake to the Queen of Heaven. The Catholics have only used a gnostic doctrine founded upon a Bible text which does not say what they claim 1.e. gnosticism.
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Misinterpretation of Scripture....

Why private interpretation of Scripture, everybody gets
to decided it's meaning is a heresy.

For the 100th time, that verse is about worship of false
gods, they were worshiping the Moon!!!!

The Blessed Mother is a person not God or a pagan goddess. She is Queen of Heaven because -read the OT- the mother of
the King is Queen.
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You Catholics are really messed up, wearing phallic symbols around your necks, bowing down to images, worshiping Mary as the Mother of "God." Read your Bible, look at different Translations, pull out a Diaglott and an Interlinear, look through some encyclopedias, study history, if you do, you will learn.
 Quoting: Beachbums


Beachbums,

You are incorrect brother, Our Lord's body on the cross is the event, you see His suffering total sacrifice for humanity. It should NEVER be forgotten.

No one bows down to images except an image of God the Father, God the Son and God the Father. "Images", statues are like photos, they are reminders of who we love.

Let go of another protest, no one worships Mary. It would be good to love and honor her as Jesus does. You can speak to her in prayer, do it hf Remember, the Commandment, we must honor and love our parents. Yes, there may have been exceptions since 1517. Mary cannot appear to Protestants because they profess heresies. Protestants will see her at or after the Great Warning when all Christianity believes the same and the non-Christians convert. Sad, not everyone will.

The Bible is a Catholic book. Pope Damasus in 383, determined the Canon. Read the first Bible, the Latin
Vulgate. A word for word translation of the Vulgate is the
Douay-Rheims Bible, here it is... [link to www.drbo.org]

Modern translations have been altered, added to, taken away.
One old translation, the Protestant KJV, there are thousands
of changes.

blessings,
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Even the thought of praying to Mary is something Alien in the Scriptures, and don't give me the - no one worships Mary argument, come to Ecuador, a "catholic country" and see for yourself. They certainly do worship Mary. Read Matt 6:9, Jesus’ disciples asked him to teach them how to pray, he indicated that prayers were to be directed to his Father. In fact, Jesus’ famous model prayer begins with the words: “Our Father in the heavens.”

And read(2 Corinthians 6:16, 17) 16 And what agreement does God’s temple have with idols?

when the Israelites made a Golden Calf to represent GOD,or YHWH, 3000 Israelites lost their lives for their "harmless image", like a "photo" I think your words were OP?......and the Cross? Please! That is one of the easiest researched origins of paganistic symbolsn there is, wayy before Christ.

[link to www.answering-christianity.com]

History shows that the cross was used centuries before Christ. For example, in the British Museum is a statue of the Assyrian king Samsi-Vul, son of Shalmaneser. Around his neck is an almost perfect Maltese cross. On an accompanying figure, that of Ashur-nasir-pal, is a similar cross.

The ancient Greek goddess Diana is pictured with a cross over her head, in much the same way the "Virgin Mary" is represented by many medieval artists. Bacchus, the Greek god of wine, is often pictured wearing a headdress adorned with crosses. Different types of crosses were used in Mexico centuries before the Spaniards arrived. The Egyptians used cross symbols in abundance, as did the Hindus.

The surprising thing is that the Christian use of the cross did not begin until the time of Constantine, three centuries after Christ. Archaeologists have not found any Christian use of the symbol before that time. According to one writer (W. E. Vine, Expository Dictionary of New Testament Words, article "Cross"), the cross as a "Christian" symbol was taken directly from the pagans.

The New Testament does not specifically describe the instrument upon which Christ died, though Acts 5:30; 10:39; and 13:28-29 refer to it as a "tree." The Greek word xulon, translated "tree" in these verses, can mean a stick, club, tree, stake, or other wooden articles.

Read more: [link to www.cgg.org]

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I'm right there with you. Its all about the eucharist. I am also preparing for the warning. Apparently after the warning, all christians will be united as one. We'll all be catholic again. Hey, can you hit me up with some links on where you get messages from? I have a couple websites, i'd really appreciate it if you could add more to my list.
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Amen! Thank you Ac 29116.. God bless you for stating the Truth. God wants us all to believe the same, the Protestants cannot deny. Jesus loves them so, He has more for them...

Here are some links, maybe you are aware of some of them already? I'll include three Protestant. God is preparing them too but not as explicit (a hint)...stating the same though, the unity of belief and of the event of the Great Warning. Protestants are hearing it called the "awakeing."

Catholic

join Yahoo Groups - for the daily messages. It's called
Seers 2

direct sites for severak daily messages - [link to www.cathlolicbinder.com]

*The webmaster above includes Glynda Lomax, a Protestant
messenger's prophecies, how nice.

[link to www.revelacionesmarianas.com]

[link to www.wordsfromjesus.com]

[link to www.pelianito.stblogs.com]

[link to www.jabezinaction.blogspot.com]

[link to www.thewarningsecondcoming.com]

Protestant

[link to the-christians-forum.com]

[link to www.openheaven.com]

[link to ft111.com]
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Even the thought of praying to Mary is something Alien in the Scriptures, and don't give me the - no on eworships Mary arguement, come to Ecuador, a "catholic country" and see for yourself. They certainly do worship Mary. Read Matt 6:9, Jesus’ disciples asked him to teach them how to pray, he indicated that prayers were to be directed to his Father. In fact, Jesus’ famous model prayer begins with the words: “Our Father in the heavens.”

And read(2 Corinthians 6:16, 17) 16 And what agreement does God’s temple have with idols?

when the Israelites made a Golden Calf to represent GOD,or YHWH, 3000 Israelites lost their lives for their "harmless image", like a "photo" I think your words were OP?......and the Cross? Please! That is one of the easiest researched origins of paganistic symbolsn there is, wayy before Christ.

[link to www.answering-christianity.com]

History shows that the cross was used centuries before Christ. For example, in the British Museum is a statue of the Assyrian king Samsi-Vul, son of Shalmaneser. Around his neck is an almost perfect Maltese cross. On an accompanying figure, that of Ashur-nasir-pal, is a similar cross.

The ancient Greek goddess Diana is pictured with a cross over her head, in much the same way the "Virgin Mary" is represented by many medieval artists. Bacchus, the Greek god of wine, is often pictured wearing a headdress adorned with crosses. Different types of crosses were used in Mexico centuries before the Spaniards arrived. The Egyptians used cross symbols in abundance, as did the Hindus.

The surprising thing is that the Christian use of the cross did not begin until the time of Constantine, three centuries after Christ. Archaeologists have not found any Christian use of the symbol before that time. According to one writer (W. E. Vine, Expository Dictionary of New Testament Words, article "Cross"), the cross as a "Christian" symbol was taken directly from the pagans.

The New Testament does not specifically describe the instrument upon which Christ died, though Acts 5:30; 10:39; and 13:28-29 refer to it as a "tree." The Greek word xulon, translated "tree" in these verses, can mean a stick, club, tree, stake, or other wooden articles.

Read more: [link to www.cgg.org]
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Beachbums,

Hi, I can't change your mind, I wish I could. No one
worships Mary, you misunderstand. Love the mother, love
the Son. Jesus wants you to honor and love His mother, He
gave you her help, his dearest mother from the Cross. You
can speak to her, why wouldn't you? The teaching example
is the wedding of Cana. Jesus wasn't ready, he said it but
honored His mother granting her request. She is a powerful
intercessor. And do not protest intercession. When you
pray for someone here, a loved one, that's intercession to
God.

Mary knew the Apostles, she lived with one! Beloved John. Her humility, she asked that they write about her Son. Revelation about who Mary would come later through others in the centuries to follow. Mary was at every major event of Our Lord's life less two. It was her humility...she points to her Son.

There are many verses in Scripture about the intercession
of the saints, their prayers to God for us. We are all
one big family. We can ask the saints to pray to God fo us here. Why are there science tested miracles, prayers answered to particular saints? Read Revelation, for Scriptue reference to the saints praying for us.

You gotta let go of the Catholicism is Paganism objection.
A well known Protestant author finally got it and so much
so he removed his book from reprint.

Two systems of belief *paganism and Christianity* have similarities but that doesn't mean they are the same.

The Cross is not the Crucifix. The Crucifix has Our Lord's
corpus on it. Protestant ministers recognize the power
of the
crucifix and so do many other Protestants. They
acknowledge a crucifix is used in the Rite of Exorcism NOT
a Cross They use it too. Place a tiny crucifix over the
outside doors of your home. It is a great protection.
Jesus crucified is the Passover Lamb in the New Covenant.
There is witness to homes with a crucifix over the door keep the evil one away, these homes go unharmed in terrible weather and from fires. Purchase a small 2 and 1/2 crucifix for your outside doors. Ask a priest to bless it
if like, you don't have to be Catholic. He would be happy
to bless it. If you can't, still put the crucifix over
your outside doors. It is a witness to the faith also.

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Rev Woodrow, author of "Babylon Mystery Religion":

"My reason for pulling the original book out of print was quite basic: Citing similarities between Catholic practices and pagan practices proves nothing if there is no actual connection. One could take virtually anything—even McDonald’s golden arches—and do the same: The Encyclopedia Americana (article: "arch") says the use of arches was known in Babylon as early as 2020 B.C. As Babylon was called "the golden city" (Is. 14:4, KJV), can there be any doubt about the origin of the golden arches? As silly as this is, this is the type of proof that has been offered again and again about the supposed pagan origins of the Catholic Church.

It is the same method atheists use in seeking to discredit the Bible and Christianity altogether—not just the Catholic Church. By this method, one also could condemn Protestant and Evangelical denominations such as the Assemblies of God, Baptist, Church of Christ, Lutheran, Methodist and Nazarene: Basic things such as prayer and kneeling in prayer would have to be rejected, as pagans knelt and prayed to their gods. Water baptism would have to be rejected, for pagans had numerous rites involving water. The list could go on and on.

By this method, even the Bible would have to be rejected as pagan. All of the following practices or beliefs mentioned in the Bible were also known among pagans: raising hands in worship, taking off shoes on holy ground, a holy mountain, a holy place in a temple, offering sacrifices without blemish, a sacred ark, a city of refuge, bringing forth water from a rock, laws written on stone, fire appearing on a person’s head, horses of fire, the offering of first fruits, and tithes.

By this method, the Lord himself would be pagan. The woman called Mystery Babylon had a cup in her hand; the Lord has a cup in his hand (Ps. 75:8). Pagan kings sat on thrones and wore crowns; the Lord sits on a throne and wears a crown (Rev. 1:4; 14:14). The Lord is called "the bright morning star" (Rev. 22:16). Pagan gods had temples dedicated to them; the Lord has a temple (Rev. 7:15)."

[link to www.catholicthinker.net]
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The Roman Catholic Church is the Anti-christ system....the great whore.

There are virtually no true doctrines in the catholic church.

I can think of only one thing that is even half true of their doctrines and that is they are anti-abortion.

The RCC has 100's of false doctrines....

I'm sure there are some saved people in the catholic church......but it's because God saved those people......despite the false doctrines of the RCC.

Best to leave that church as fast as you can.....else you will take the Beast's mark and probably will participate in the beheading of christians during the great tribulation.

Say no to those stupid wafers.....they are Cursed bread and have nothing to do with Jesus Christ.
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Here we go again...Once4All...is endorsing, professing
a HERESY. He bumps up Keep2theCode and Koffee's explanation of the heresy
of "imputation" Jesus did it all on the Cross, His perfect
Sacrifice justifies you. You're sins are covered and you're
home free. God's righteousness is imputed to you since you are a miserable sinner. What a lie.

I have tried, pleaded with Once4All to come back to the
faith. He clams up, will not discuss the faith or give a reason why he will not return. Jesus said in a message..."stiff necked", those who have turned their backs on the Church. Our Lord is working on their hearts.

Once4All has to go make a good Confession. That's it and
he refuses. Pray for his return. Koffee is preaching
heresies, she hasn't been given the fullness of faith.

Proclaim the Truth, don't be afraid.

The heresy is "imputation" is a lie. Easy Protestantism, Jesus did it all, you are saved.
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Yes, indeed. The gospel is very clear and simple: believe that Jesus is God in the flesh who died for us and rose again, and trust only him and no other, not even ourselves, to reconcile us to God. It is His perfection, not our own, that makes us citizens of heaven.

The churches have forgotten this.

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It IS a simple message, a message of truth, that burns the ears of those who have the spirit of the antichrist--
it is only by the blood of Jesus can one truly be saved.

Demons cower when they hear this.

Satan knows this and will do whatever he can to silent the message or change it into a lie--he is the father of lies.

God's Word has been around for many years, it will never be destroyed.

All other "religious" books are satan's attempt to counterfeit His Word, he likes to destroy.

All other spiritual paths and theories are a bunch of hogwash--made to sound intelligent and enlightening--but it won't bring you into God's Kingdom.
It is only by the Blood of the Lamb.

Everyone is born in sin, all have sinned, we are all sinners. We know what is right to do, but most of the time we don't do it.
We are all capable of doing the worst of sin, it is in our heart, our nature.

It is only the Blood of Christ that can cleanses us from our sins. His sacrifice saves. No other person born on this earth came to do what He did for us.

He was not killed, He WILLINGLY died, He came to die on the cross, He paid the price, the penalty that we owe our Creator for our sin--which is death!

Why do you think we die? It was our penalty for our disobedience in the garden.

I don't understand why there is always so much hate when it is a message of love.
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I agree, Jesus is simple and clear, unblemished, perfect. All the confusion and heaviness that people unknowingly burden others with is not Jesus. His way is easy and His burden light. As for not understanding why there is so much hate, it's the of hardness of hearts and corruption of the mind, the gospel (Jesus) breaks up that hard soil and renews the mind, but most cannot even fathom the simplicity of Him. It's about Jesus, plain and simple.
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This thread is a big huge FAIL!