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I took the time to read everything said on this page, but I do not understand why one person thinks it is real. I am hungry for answers, but I will not take lies as truth.
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I took the time to read everything said on this page, but I do not understand why one person thinks it is real. I am hungry for answers, but I will not take lies as truth.
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Everything is both lie and truth simultaneously. It's up to you to pick out what resonates with your life. No one can ever hand you the truth
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I took the time to read everything said on this page, but I do not understand why one person thinks it is real. I am hungry for answers, but I will not take lies as truth.
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Everything is both lie and truth simultaneously. It's up to you to pick out what resonates with your life. No one can ever hand you the truth
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*teaches him the truth* Like 1 + 1 = 2 I am correct.
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I took the time to read everything said on this page, but I do not understand why one person thinks it is real. I am hungry for answers, but I will not take lies as truth.
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Everything is both lie and truth simultaneously. It's up to you to pick out what resonates with your life. No one can ever hand you the truth
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*teaches him the truth* Like 1 + 1 = 2 I am correct.
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The number 1 is simply a concept. It has no real value unto itself. Please, show me a one. You can't. It's an idea humans gave power to try and describe something around ourselves.
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A knife or gun at close range looks cool on you , thats what it is.
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I took the time to read everything said on this page, but I do not understand why one person thinks it is real. I am hungry for answers, but I will not take lies as truth.
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Everything is both lie and truth simultaneously. It's up to you to pick out what resonates with your life. No one can ever hand you the truth
 Quoting: High Plains Jester


True, but everyone deciphers their own truths out of the mixed messages. With a million master programmers and a netowk of worms, trojans and backdoors, how do we know when we have de-crypted the "Absolute Truth". Resonating is a feeling and those are easily manipulated.
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I took the time to read everything said on this page, but I do not understand why one person thinks it is real. I am hungry for answers, but I will not take lies as truth.
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Everything is both lie and truth simultaneously. It's up to you to pick out what resonates with your life. No one can ever hand you the truth
 Quoting: High Plains Jester


True, but everyone deciphers their own truths out of the mixed messages. With a million master programmers and a netowk of worms, trojans and backdoors, how do we know when we have de-crypted the "Absolute Truth". Resonating is a feeling and those are easily manipulated.
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Yes, but I have found in my own experience, that which resonates with you has a very unique feel to it. Like the flood gates of "heaven" have been briefly opened allowing just a bit more light inside. It's not simply the "ah ha!" feeling one gets when an idea is realized and incorporated, but also a feeling of....well, I guess the best way to put it, is a remembered memory. Like the information has always been then, which it has. In my opinion, that's the difference between absolute truth, and "truth" built by any master programmer. No one can come anywhere close to what the Grand Architect has already made.
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I took the time to read everything said on this page, but I do not understand why one person thinks it is real. I am hungry for answers, but I will not take lies as truth.
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Everything is both lie and truth simultaneously. It's up to you to pick out what resonates with your life. No one can ever hand you the truth
 Quoting: High Plains Jester


True, but everyone deciphers their own truths out of the mixed messages. With a million master programmers and a netowk of worms, trojans and backdoors, how do we know when we have de-crypted the "Absolute Truth". Resonating is a feeling and those are easily manipulated.
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It just occurred to me that the person who invented computer programming lingo was a stool pusher.
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I took the time to read everything said on this page, but I do not understand why one person thinks it is real. I am hungry for answers, but I will not take lies as truth.
 Quoting: 123 4966393


Everything is both lie and truth simultaneously. It's up to you to pick out what resonates with your life. No one can ever hand you the truth
 Quoting: High Plains Jester


True, but everyone deciphers their own truths out of the mixed messages. With a million master programmers and a netowk of worms, trojans and backdoors, how do we know when we have de-crypted the "Absolute Truth". Resonating is a feeling and those are easily manipulated.
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Yes, but I have found in my own experience, that which resonates with you has a very unique feel to it. Like the flood gates of "heaven" have been briefly opened allowing just a bit more light inside. It's not simply the "ah ha!" feeling one gets when an idea is realized and incorporated, but also a feeling of....well, I guess the best way to put it, is a remembered memory. Like the information has always been then, which it has. In my opinion, that's the difference between absolute truth, and "truth" built by any master programmer. No one can come anywhere close to what the Grand Architect has already made.
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The Grand Architect of "Our Reality" or Grand Architect of all? There are many architects who are capable of "Grand" masterpieces.
"If you bring forth what is within you, what you have will save you. If you do not have that within you, what you do not have within you [will] kill you."

"Whoever has come to know the world has discovered a carcass, and whoever has discovered a carcass, of that person the world is not worthy."

"Those who know all, but are lacking in themselves, are utterly lacking."
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Everything is both lie and truth simultaneously. It's up to you to pick out what resonates with your life. No one can ever hand you the truth
 Quoting: High Plains Jester


True, but everyone deciphers their own truths out of the mixed messages. With a million master programmers and a netowk of worms, trojans and backdoors, how do we know when we have de-crypted the "Absolute Truth". Resonating is a feeling and those are easily manipulated.
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Yes, but I have found in my own experience, that which resonates with you has a very unique feel to it. Like the flood gates of "heaven" have been briefly opened allowing just a bit more light inside. It's not simply the "ah ha!" feeling one gets when an idea is realized and incorporated, but also a feeling of....well, I guess the best way to put it, is a remembered memory. Like the information has always been then, which it has. In my opinion, that's the difference between absolute truth, and "truth" built by any master programmer. No one can come anywhere close to what the Grand Architect has already made.
 Quoting: High Plains Jester



The Grand Architect of "Our Reality" or Grand Architect of all? There are many architects who are capable of "Grand" masterpieces.
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The Grand Architect of our reality is none other than ourselves. I refer to the Grand Architect of All. The Source. It's system is a system developed so perfectly that even when all appears to be complete chaos, there is an order so subtle, yet still there. Working itself through the divine algorithms and complex geometries back toward its beginning
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True, but everyone deciphers their own truths out of the mixed messages. With a million master programmers and a netowk of worms, trojans and backdoors, how do we know when we have de-crypted the "Absolute Truth". Resonating is a feeling and those are easily manipulated.
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Yes, but I have found in my own experience, that which resonates with you has a very unique feel to it. Like the flood gates of "heaven" have been briefly opened allowing just a bit more light inside. It's not simply the "ah ha!" feeling one gets when an idea is realized and incorporated, but also a feeling of....well, I guess the best way to put it, is a remembered memory. Like the information has always been then, which it has. In my opinion, that's the difference between absolute truth, and "truth" built by any master programmer. No one can come anywhere close to what the Grand Architect has already made.
 Quoting: High Plains Jester



The Grand Architect of "Our Reality" or Grand Architect of all? There are many architects who are capable of "Grand" masterpieces.
 Quoting: Motion & Rest


The Grand Architect of our reality is none other than ourselves. I refer to the Grand Architect of All. The Source. It's system is a system developed so perfectly that even when all appears to be complete chaos, there is an order so subtle, yet still there. Working itself through the divine algorithms and complex geometries back toward its beginning
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Agreed, but until you can manipulate your reality at will you are not the true Architect of your reality. What is the source of the chaos?
"If you bring forth what is within you, what you have will save you. If you do not have that within you, what you do not have within you [will] kill you."

"Whoever has come to know the world has discovered a carcass, and whoever has discovered a carcass, of that person the world is not worthy."

"Those who know all, but are lacking in themselves, are utterly lacking."
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Yes, but I have found in my own experience, that which resonates with you has a very unique feel to it. Like the flood gates of "heaven" have been briefly opened allowing just a bit more light inside. It's not simply the "ah ha!" feeling one gets when an idea is realized and incorporated, but also a feeling of....well, I guess the best way to put it, is a remembered memory. Like the information has always been then, which it has. In my opinion, that's the difference between absolute truth, and "truth" built by any master programmer. No one can come anywhere close to what the Grand Architect has already made.
 Quoting: High Plains Jester



The Grand Architect of "Our Reality" or Grand Architect of all? There are many architects who are capable of "Grand" masterpieces.
 Quoting: Motion & Rest


The Grand Architect of our reality is none other than ourselves. I refer to the Grand Architect of All. The Source. It's system is a system developed so perfectly that even when all appears to be complete chaos, there is an order so subtle, yet still there. Working itself through the divine algorithms and complex geometries back toward its beginning
 Quoting: High Plains Jester


Agreed, but until you can manipulate your reality at will you are not the true Architect of your reality. What is the source of the chaos?
 Quoting: Motion & Rest


I will partially agree with you, but only in the sense that until your vessel can fully embody spirit, then you are not allowed to have full control of your reality. Until the time when one is deemed worthy, the spirit manages reality for you. Putting obstacles in your way so you can grow and adapt. As I said before, it only appears to be chaos to one without the eyes to see. It's order so complex that it seems to be random. Howesimply rue chaos simply doesnt exist.
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The Grand Architect of "Our Reality" or Grand Architect of all? There are many architects who are capable of "Grand" masterpieces.
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The Grand Architect of our reality is none other than ourselves. I refer to the Grand Architect of All. The Source. It's system is a system developed so perfectly that even when all appears to be complete chaos, there is an order so subtle, yet still there. Working itself through the divine algorithms and complex geometries back toward its beginning
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Agreed, but until you can manipulate your reality at will you are not the true Architect of your reality. What is the source of the chaos?
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I will partially agree with you, but only in the sense that until your vessel can fully embody spirit, then you are not allowed to have full control of your reality. Until the time when one is deemed worthy, the spirit manages reality for you. Putting obstacles in your way so you can grow and adapt. As I said before, it only appears to be chaos to one without the eyes to see. It's order so complex that it seems to be random. Howesimply rue chaos simply doesnt exist.
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Lol no clue what happened on that last sentence, but yes, chaos doesn't exist
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The Grand Architect of our reality is none other than ourselves. I refer to the Grand Architect of All. The Source. It's system is a system developed so perfectly that even when all appears to be complete chaos, there is an order so subtle, yet still there. Working itself through the divine algorithms and complex geometries back toward its beginning
 Quoting: High Plains Jester


Agreed, but until you can manipulate your reality at will you are not the true Architect of your reality. What is the source of the chaos?
 Quoting: Motion & Rest


I will partially agree with you, but only in the sense that until your vessel can fully embody spirit, then you are not allowed to have full control of your reality. Until the time when one is deemed worthy, the spirit manages reality for you. Putting obstacles in your way so you can grow and adapt. As I said before, it only appears to be chaos to one without the eyes to see. It's order so complex that it seems to be random. Howesimply rue chaos simply doesnt exist.
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Lol no clue what happened on that last sentence, but yes, chaos doesn't exist
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What if the choas is real and flase at the sametime. If thoughtforms(Greed, envy, pride ect) infected the minds of mass observers causing percieved choatic reality, then couldn't those thoughtforms be working for their boss choas? Where do thought originate, what are they? Could you have reality without them?

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"If you bring forth what is within you, what you have will save you. If you do not have that within you, what you do not have within you [will] kill you."

"Whoever has come to know the world has discovered a carcass, and whoever has discovered a carcass, of that person the world is not worthy."

"Those who know all, but are lacking in themselves, are utterly lacking."
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Agreed, but until you can manipulate your reality at will you are not the true Architect of your reality. What is the source of the chaos?
 Quoting: Motion & Rest


I will partially agree with you, but only in the sense that until your vessel can fully embody spirit, then you are not allowed to have full control of your reality. Until the time when one is deemed worthy, the spirit manages reality for you. Putting obstacles in your way so you can grow and adapt. As I said before, it only appears to be chaos to one without the eyes to see. It's order so complex that it seems to be random. Howesimply rue chaos simply doesnt exist.
 Quoting: High Plains Jester


Lol no clue what happened on that last sentence, but yes, chaos doesn't exist
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What if the choas is real and flase at the sametime. If thoughtforms infected the minds of mass observers causing percieved choatic reality, then couldn't those thoughtforms be working for their boss choas? Where do thought originate, what are they? Could you have reality without them?
 Quoting: Motion & Rest


The first thing to acknowledge is that there is nothing but Source, the Grand Architect, in who's mind we exist. There is nothing before, and as everything exists in it's mind, then nothing can step outside of what it has imagined. You have to forgive me on a lot of this, as language is a very large barrier to convey this information through. I feel you have an understanding of this, but felt the need to iterate it.
Now, this leaves the only option being that everything is conscioussness. Everything. For without there being conscioussness, it couldn't exist. "chaos" "Satan" whatever you wish to call it, is simply a tool used by Source. Without this, nothing could stay outside of the singularity from which everything came from. It gives us a distraction. It allows us to move within ourself, and process the information we find. We are a direct response to the first question. "What am I?" look at it this way. If you had none of your five senses, and only had thought, how would you figure out what you are? You would have to explore yourself from the inside out. You could construct imagined entities to explore you inner self, and since they are a part of you, the information they learn would be translated back to you. As the information increases, so could the world that you are building for them. More worlds could be built to run simultaneously. It's like building better and better computers, except this is the most advanced, unparalleled computer that will ever be.

Sorry if I went on a tangent there, I let my mind go where it will in these types of conversations lol.
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I will partially agree with you, but only in the sense that until your vessel can fully embody spirit, then you are not allowed to have full control of your reality. Until the time when one is deemed worthy, the spirit manages reality for you. Putting obstacles in your way so you can grow and adapt. As I said before, it only appears to be chaos to one without the eyes to see. It's order so complex that it seems to be random. Howesimply rue chaos simply doesnt exist.
 Quoting: High Plains Jester


Lol no clue what happened on that last sentence, but yes, chaos doesn't exist
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What if the choas is real and flase at the sametime. If thoughtforms infected the minds of mass observers causing percieved choatic reality, then couldn't those thoughtforms be working for their boss choas? Where do thought originate, what are they? Could you have reality without them?
 Quoting: Motion & Rest


The first thing to acknowledge is that there is nothing but Source, the Grand Architect, in who's mind we exist. There is nothing before, and as everything exists in it's mind, then nothing can step outside of what it has imagined. You have to forgive me on a lot of this, as language is a very large barrier to convey this information through. I feel you have an understanding of this, but felt the need to iterate it.
Now, this leaves the only option being that everything is conscioussness. Everything. For without there being conscioussness, it couldn't exist. "chaos" "Satan" whatever you wish to call it, is simply a tool used by Source. Without this, nothing could stay outside of the singularity from which everything came from. It gives us a distraction. It allows us to move within ourself, and process the information we find. We are a direct response to the first question. "What am I?" look at it this way. If you had none of your five senses, and only had thought, how would you figure out what you are? You would have to explore yourself from the inside out. You could construct imagined entities to explore you inner self, and since they are a part of you, the information they learn would be translated back to you. As the information increases, so could the world that you are building for them. More worlds could be built to run simultaneously. It's like building better and better computers, except this is the most advanced, unparalleled computer that will ever be.

Sorry if I went on a tangent there, I let my mind go where it will in these types of conversations lol.
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i ask people how they would percieve reality with no senses a lot.

That is a good way to explain things, I think along those lines. The problem is when I throw aliens, spirits, other type entities in the equation. I don't but into the earth learning place idea. I have begin to think they might not exist and its all thoughts, but also if our thoughts create reality, then they are created. I tend to believe that all the bad things in the world are the result of the collective thought.

I understand it is basically how the observer sees/percives the "Chaos" shapes their reality. Its hard for me to believe that the supreme conscienceness set up a system with percieved suffering. I think somewhere something was thought up(not by supreme guy) in creation and it had a tremndous ripple effect. Basically someone made a drastic error in thought and all hell broke loose creating a stream of new thoughts and those new thoughts manifesting into the observers realities.
"If you bring forth what is within you, what you have will save you. If you do not have that within you, what you do not have within you [will] kill you."

"Whoever has come to know the world has discovered a carcass, and whoever has discovered a carcass, of that person the world is not worthy."

"Those who know all, but are lacking in themselves, are utterly lacking."
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Lol no clue what happened on that last sentence, but yes, chaos doesn't exist
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What if the choas is real and flase at the sametime. If thoughtforms infected the minds of mass observers causing percieved choatic reality, then couldn't those thoughtforms be working for their boss choas? Where do thought originate, what are they? Could you have reality without them?
 Quoting: Motion & Rest


The first thing to acknowledge is that there is nothing but Source, the Grand Architect, in who's mind we exist. There is nothing before, and as everything exists in it's mind, then nothing can step outside of what it has imagined. You have to forgive me on a lot of this, as language is a very large barrier to convey this information through. I feel you have an understanding of this, but felt the need to iterate it.
Now, this leaves the only option being that everything is conscioussness. Everything. For without there being conscioussness, it couldn't exist. "chaos" "Satan" whatever you wish to call it, is simply a tool used by Source. Without this, nothing could stay outside of the singularity from which everything came from. It gives us a distraction. It allows us to move within ourself, and process the information we find. We are a direct response to the first question. "What am I?" look at it this way. If you had none of your five senses, and only had thought, how would you figure out what you are? You would have to explore yourself from the inside out. You could construct imagined entities to explore you inner self, and since they are a part of you, the information they learn would be translated back to you. As the information increases, so could the world that you are building for them. More worlds could be built to run simultaneously. It's like building better and better computers, except this is the most advanced, unparalleled computer that will ever be.

Sorry if I went on a tangent there, I let my mind go where it will in these types of conversations lol.
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i ask people how they would percieve reality with no senses a lot.

That is a good way to explain things, I think along those lines. The problem is when I throw aliens, spirits, other type entities in the equation. I don't but into the earth learning place idea. I have begin to think they might not exist and its all thoughts, but also if our thoughts create reality, then they are created. I tend to believe that all the bad things in the world are the result of the collective thought.

I understand it is basically how the observer sees/percives the "Chaos" shapes their reality. Its hard for me to believe that the supreme conscienceness set up a system with percieved suffering. I think somewhere something was thought up(not by supreme guy) in creation and it had a tremndous ripple effect. Basically someone made a drastic error in thought and all hell broke loose creating a stream of new thoughts and those new thoughts manifesting into the observers realities.
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I like you. You think.

I believe other entities do exist, but not in malicious ways we perceive them to be at times. Like I said previously, other worlds have been built to increase input. You represent your own unique universe, just as I do. But even we are only the thought forms of the earth. Which is a thought form of our galaxy and so on and so forth. So I think it would be ignorant to not believe they are there. But, any entity or race that has the ability to travel the stars would have to understand the greater mechanics of unity. And once these mechanics are understood, then going against the higher laws is down right idiotic. Karma is real. If your ignorant of the laws, then it may take lifetimes for your misdeeds to catch up with you, but once you understand the laws, acting against them, well, karma hits you almost immediately. Hurting someone would be just like hurting yourself, which most sane beings don't do.
As for a system of perceived suffering, I don't think it's designed that way. We're simply children. Learning the ins and outs of the system as we go along. Working from the bottom to the top. Suffering may simply be a part of the system. I mean, if your trying to learn everything, you might as wel learn EVERYTHING. But even suffering is a learning experience. Just because the material vessel doesn't understand why something is happening, doesnt mean the soul doesn't. I believe that we choose our lives and experiences before we materialize here. However, the flesh can go against the soul protocols. Hense free will. That is why things seem outta whack here. Not too many people hear what the soul has to say. They are more worried about fleshly desires and temporary thrills. Hense reincarnation. Experience is accumulative and cannot be taken away from, so next life, you'll be a little more in tune. And so on and so forth, until you're ready for the next step in the transcendental evolutionary process.
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memetic evolution.

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memetic evolution.

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Purest. Not strongest
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What if the choas is real and flase at the sametime. If thoughtforms infected the minds of mass observers causing percieved choatic reality, then couldn't those thoughtforms be working for their boss choas? Where do thought originate, what are they? Could you have reality without them?
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The first thing to acknowledge is that there is nothing but Source, the Grand Architect, in who's mind we exist. There is nothing before, and as everything exists in it's mind, then nothing can step outside of what it has imagined. You have to forgive me on a lot of this, as language is a very large barrier to convey this information through. I feel you have an understanding of this, but felt the need to iterate it.
Now, this leaves the only option being that everything is conscioussness. Everything. For without there being conscioussness, it couldn't exist. "chaos" "Satan" whatever you wish to call it, is simply a tool used by Source. Without this, nothing could stay outside of the singularity from which everything came from. It gives us a distraction. It allows us to move within ourself, and process the information we find. We are a direct response to the first question. "What am I?" look at it this way. If you had none of your five senses, and only had thought, how would you figure out what you are? You would have to explore yourself from the inside out. You could construct imagined entities to explore you inner self, and since they are a part of you, the information they learn would be translated back to you. As the information increases, so could the world that you are building for them. More worlds could be built to run simultaneously. It's like building better and better computers, except this is the most advanced, unparalleled computer that will ever be.

Sorry if I went on a tangent there, I let my mind go where it will in these types of conversations lol.
 Quoting: High Plains Jester

i ask people how they would percieve reality with no senses a lot.

That is a good way to explain things, I think along those lines. The problem is when I throw aliens, spirits, other type entities in the equation. I don't but into the earth learning place idea. I have begin to think they might not exist and its all thoughts, but also if our thoughts create reality, then they are created. I tend to believe that all the bad things in the world are the result of the collective thought.

I understand it is basically how the observer sees/percives the "Chaos" shapes their reality. Its hard for me to believe that the supreme conscienceness set up a system with percieved suffering. I think somewhere something was thought up(not by supreme guy) in creation and it had a tremndous ripple effect. Basically someone made a drastic error in thought and all hell broke loose creating a stream of new thoughts and those new thoughts manifesting into the observers realities.
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I like you. You think.

I believe other entities do exist, but not in malicious ways we perceive them to be at times. Like I said previously, other worlds have been built to increase input. You represent your own unique universe, just as I do. But even we are only the thought forms of the earth. Which is a thought form of our galaxy and so on and so forth. So I think it would be ignorant to not believe they are there. But, any entity or race that has the ability to travel the stars would have to understand the greater mechanics of unity. And once these mechanics are understood, then going against the higher laws is down right idiotic. Karma is real. If your ignorant of the laws, then it may take lifetimes for your misdeeds to catch up with you, but once you understand the laws, acting against them, well, karma hits you almost immediately. Hurting someone would be just like hurting yourself, which most sane beings don't do.
As for a system of perceived suffering, I don't think it's designed that way. We're simply children. Learning the ins and outs of the system as we go along. Working from the bottom to the top. Suffering may simply be a part of the system. I mean, if your trying to learn everything, you might as wel learn EVERYTHING. But even suffering is a learning experience. Just because the material vessel doesn't understand why something is happening, doesnt mean the soul doesn't. I believe that we choose our lives and experiences before we materialize here. However, the flesh can go against the soul protocols. Hense free will. That is why things seem outta whack here. Not too many people hear what the soul has to say. They are more worried about fleshly desires and temporary thrills. Hense reincarnation. Experience is accumulative and cannot be taken away from, so next life, you'll be a little more in tune. And so on and so forth, until you're ready for the next step in the transcendental evolutionary process.
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I can agree with just about all that or I have thought that way at one time. It all makes lots of sense, but why do i have to eat and sleep? My dream world is sweet id rather not wake up. Why can't I get my enegry directly from the source? I love to eat food, but sometimes it's a chore. I don't like how this realm operates on consumption. Everything consumes everything. To me that hints that the prime source of material ream is limited. It seems like i get into a avatar from dream world(real reality) and come here to work on something til my shift is over.
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"Whoever has come to know the world has discovered a carcass, and whoever has discovered a carcass, of that person the world is not worthy."

"Those who know all, but are lacking in themselves, are utterly lacking."
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The first thing to acknowledge is that there is nothing but Source, the Grand Architect, in who's mind we exist. There is nothing before, and as everything exists in it's mind, then nothing can step outside of what it has imagined. You have to forgive me on a lot of this, as language is a very large barrier to convey this information through. I feel you have an understanding of this, but felt the need to iterate it.
Now, this leaves the only option being that everything is conscioussness. Everything. For without there being conscioussness, it couldn't exist. "chaos" "Satan" whatever you wish to call it, is simply a tool used by Source. Without this, nothing could stay outside of the singularity from which everything came from. It gives us a distraction. It allows us to move within ourself, and process the information we find. We are a direct response to the first question. "What am I?" look at it this way. If you had none of your five senses, and only had thought, how would you figure out what you are? You would have to explore yourself from the inside out. You could construct imagined entities to explore you inner self, and since they are a part of you, the information they learn would be translated back to you. As the information increases, so could the world that you are building for them. More worlds could be built to run simultaneously. It's like building better and better computers, except this is the most advanced, unparalleled computer that will ever be.

Sorry if I went on a tangent there, I let my mind go where it will in these types of conversations lol.
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i ask people how they would percieve reality with no senses a lot.

That is a good way to explain things, I think along those lines. The problem is when I throw aliens, spirits, other type entities in the equation. I don't but into the earth learning place idea. I have begin to think they might not exist and its all thoughts, but also if our thoughts create reality, then they are created. I tend to believe that all the bad things in the world are the result of the collective thought.

I understand it is basically how the observer sees/percives the "Chaos" shapes their reality. Its hard for me to believe that the supreme conscienceness set up a system with percieved suffering. I think somewhere something was thought up(not by supreme guy) in creation and it had a tremndous ripple effect. Basically someone made a drastic error in thought and all hell broke loose creating a stream of new thoughts and those new thoughts manifesting into the observers realities.
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I like you. You think.

I believe other entities do exist, but not in malicious ways we perceive them to be at times. Like I said previously, other worlds have been built to increase input. You represent your own unique universe, just as I do. But even we are only the thought forms of the earth. Which is a thought form of our galaxy and so on and so forth. So I think it would be ignorant to not believe they are there. But, any entity or race that has the ability to travel the stars would have to understand the greater mechanics of unity. And once these mechanics are understood, then going against the higher laws is down right idiotic. Karma is real. If your ignorant of the laws, then it may take lifetimes for your misdeeds to catch up with you, but once you understand the laws, acting against them, well, karma hits you almost immediately. Hurting someone would be just like hurting yourself, which most sane beings don't do.
As for a system of perceived suffering, I don't think it's designed that way. We're simply children. Learning the ins and outs of the system as we go along. Working from the bottom to the top. Suffering may simply be a part of the system. I mean, if your trying to learn everything, you might as wel learn EVERYTHING. But even suffering is a learning experience. Just because the material vessel doesn't understand why something is happening, doesnt mean the soul doesn't. I believe that we choose our lives and experiences before we materialize here. However, the flesh can go against the soul protocols. Hense free will. That is why things seem outta whack here. Not too many people hear what the soul has to say. They are more worried about fleshly desires and temporary thrills. Hense reincarnation. Experience is accumulative and cannot be taken away from, so next life, you'll be a little more in tune. And so on and so forth, until you're ready for the next step in the transcendental evolutionary process.
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I can agree with just about all that or I have thought that way at one time. It all makes lots of sense, but why do i have to eat and sleep? My dream world is sweet id rather not wake up. Why can't I get my enegry directly from the source? I love to eat food, but sometimes it's a chore. I don't like how this realm operates on consumption. Everything consumes everything. To me that hints that the prime source of material ream is limited. It seems like i get into a avatar from dream world(real reality) and come here to work on something til my shift is over.
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You have it exactly right. Welcome to the avatar world lol. And yes, the material world has a limited supply so to speak. Matter is constantly decaying, producing radioactivity. It's this radioactive decay that is consumed by black holes, and the energy is transferred to the suns. Which as you know are responsible for all the elements we have. And this will go on, forever. It's due to this decay however, that we need to consume energy. We have to keep the body alive. And yes, a direct flow to Source can be established, and at some point in our future, I believe that will be how all of humanity will exist. I personally can make it a few days without eating, and when i do eat, i dont eat much. I just focus my attention on Source and get what i need. Sleep is the same way. However, i can achieve deeper meditations by having an unconsciouss body. To boost our own evolution, we needed to gain energy at a faster rate. This is why it was started and continues to this day. Genetically, we're still engineered to consume.
A little about dreaming, I've been an experienced lucid dreamer for about 7 years now, and have spent the last three building my own paradise island. Here I meet with the other ascended masters and learn from their experiences. It's awe inspiring every time. If you haven't had experiences like this, I hope that one day you do, for I feel there is sooooo much to be learned from those realms
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I like you. You think.

I believe other entities do exist, but not in malicious ways we perceive them to be at times. Like I said previously, other worlds have been built to increase input. You represent your own unique universe, just as I do. But even we are only the thought forms of the earth. Which is a thought form of our galaxy and so on and so forth. So I think it would be ignorant to not believe they are there. But, any entity or race that has the ability to travel the stars would have to understand the greater mechanics of unity. And once these mechanics are understood, then going against the higher laws is down right idiotic. Karma is real. If your ignorant of the laws, then it may take lifetimes for your misdeeds to catch up with you, but once you understand the laws, acting against them, well, karma hits you almost immediately. Hurting someone would be just like hurting yourself, which most sane beings don't do.
As for a system of perceived suffering, I don't think it's designed that way. We're simply children. Learning the ins and outs of the system as we go along. Working from the bottom to the top. Suffering may simply be a part of the system. I mean, if your trying to learn everything, you might as wel learn EVERYTHING. But even suffering is a learning experience. Just because the material vessel doesn't understand why something is happening, doesnt mean the soul doesn't. I believe that we choose our lives and experiences before we materialize here. However, the flesh can go against the soul protocols. Hense free will. That is why things seem outta whack here. Not too many people hear what the soul has to say. They are more worried about fleshly desires and temporary thrills. Hense reincarnation. Experience is accumulative and cannot be taken away from, so next life, you'll be a little more in tune. And so on and so forth, until you're ready for the next step in the transcendental evolutionary process.


I can agree with just about all that or I have thought that way at one time. It all makes lots of sense, but why do i have to eat and sleep? My dream world is sweet id rather not wake up. Why can't I get my enegry directly from the source? I love to eat food, but sometimes it's a chore. I don't like how this realm operates on consumption. Everything consumes everything. To me that hints that the prime source of material ream is limited. It seems like i get into a avatar from dream world(real reality) and come here to work on something til my shift is over.


You have it exactly right. Welcome to the avatar world lol. And yes, the material world has a limited supply so to speak. Matter is constantly decaying, producing radioactivity. It's this radioactive decay that is consumed by black holes, and the energy is transferred to the suns. Which as you know are responsible for all the elements we have. And this will go on, forever. It's due to this decay however, that we need to consume energy. We have to keep the body alive. And yes, a direct flow to Source can be established, and at some point in our future, I believe that will be how all of humanity will exist. I personally can make it a few days without eating, and when i do eat, i dont eat much. I just focus my attention on Source and get what i need. Sleep is the same way. However, i can achieve deeper meditations by having an unconsciouss body. To boost our own evolution, we needed to gain energy at a faster rate. This is why it was started and continues to this day. Genetically, we're still engineered to consume.
A little about dreaming, I've been an experienced lucid dreamer for about 7 years now, and have spent the last three building my own paradise island. Here I meet with the other ascended masters and learn from their experiences. It's awe inspiring every time. If you haven't had experiences like this, I hope that one day you do, for I feel there is sooooo much to be learned from those realms


Then what's the need for the avatar? Why is my dna locked up, my braing functioning cut back to 10%?
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"Whoever has come to know the world has discovered a carcass, and whoever has discovered a carcass, of that person the world is not worthy."

"Those who know all, but are lacking in themselves, are utterly lacking."
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I like you. You think.

I believe other entities do exist, but not in malicious ways we perceive them to be at times. Like I said previously, other worlds have been built to increase input. You represent your own unique universe, just as I do. But even we are only the thought forms of the earth. Which is a thought form of our galaxy and so on and so forth. So I think it would be ignorant to not believe they are there. But, any entity or race that has the ability to travel the stars would have to understand the greater mechanics of unity. And once these mechanics are understood, then going against the higher laws is down right idiotic. Karma is real. If your ignorant of the laws, then it may take lifetimes for your misdeeds to catch up with you, but once you understand the laws, acting against them, well, karma hits you almost immediately. Hurting someone would be just like hurting yourself, which most sane beings don't do.
As for a system of perceived suffering, I don't think it's designed that way. We're simply children. Learning the ins and outs of the system as we go along. Working from the bottom to the top. Suffering may simply be a part of the system. I mean, if your trying to learn everything, you might as wel learn EVERYTHING. But even suffering is a learning experience. Just because the material vessel doesn't understand why something is happening, doesnt mean the soul doesn't. I believe that we choose our lives and experiences before we materialize here. However, the flesh can go against the soul protocols. Hense free will. That is why things seem outta whack here. Not too many people hear what the soul has to say. They are more worried about fleshly desires and temporary thrills. Hense reincarnation. Experience is accumulative and cannot be taken away from, so next life, you'll be a little more in tune. And so on and so forth, until you're ready for the next step in the transcendental evolutionary process.


I can agree with just about all that or I have thought that way at one time. It all makes lots of sense, but why do i have to eat and sleep? My dream world is sweet id rather not wake up. Why can't I get my enegry directly from the source? I love to eat food, but sometimes it's a chore. I don't like how this realm operates on consumption. Everything consumes everything. To me that hints that the prime source of material ream is limited. It seems like i get into a avatar from dream world(real reality) and come here to work on something til my shift is over.


You have it exactly right. Welcome to the avatar world lol. And yes, the material world has a limited supply so to speak. Matter is constantly decaying, producing radioactivity. It's this radioactive decay that is consumed by black holes, and the energy is transferred to the suns. Which as you know are responsible for all the elements we have. And this will go on, forever. It's due to this decay however, that we need to consume energy. We have to keep the body alive. And yes, a direct flow to Source can be established, and at some point in our future, I believe that will be how all of humanity will exist. I personally can make it a few days without eating, and when i do eat, i dont eat much. I just focus my attention on Source and get what i need. Sleep is the same way. However, i can achieve deeper meditations by having an unconsciouss body. To boost our own evolution, we needed to gain energy at a faster rate. This is why it was started and continues to this day. Genetically, we're still engineered to consume.
A little about dreaming, I've been an experienced lucid dreamer for about 7 years now, and have spent the last three building my own paradise island. Here I meet with the other ascended masters and learn from their experiences. It's awe inspiring every time. If you haven't had experiences like this, I hope that one day you do, for I feel there is sooooo much to be learned from those realms


Then what's the need for the avatar? Why is my dna locked up, my braing functioning cut back to 10%?

The need for the avatar is for the spirit to experience the world of matter. It's a divine union of the grossest forms of conscioussness to the highest realms of thought. Everyone wants to escape from here, because they don't have the eyes to see that this is a beautiful playground of the soul. I mean, we get to walk through a beautifully organized sea of atoms...which is just amazing when you sit down to think about it. Your DNA isn't locked up nor has it ever been. Yes, there is a blueprint for you to have up to 12 strands, but it is up to you and your spirit to manifest these. The other ten (judging from your ability to hold in this conversation, I would assume you at least have three) are existing etherically. Waiting on the material side of you to build the rest of the pieces. Mostly, this happens subconsciously, but there are methods to helping it along. Such as making the right choices in life. As far as only using 10 percent of your brain, that's also up to you to unlock. It's evolution. Imagine if in todays society if everyone had psychic abilities. The ability to be wherever they wanted. To disassemble there bodies and rebuild them however and wherever they wanted. It would not be good to say the least lol. But as you learn to operate in the system and within the parameters, then these become available to you. It's really all about earning your keep so to speak
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I detect roleplay.

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Sorry, I'm usually not this bold, but I've had a few drinks 5a
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Im more on the prison side than playground side. It seems like we a de-evolved over time. we went from stone pyrmids to plastic buildings. I see no need for the material realm. The Spirit doesnt need to experience anything, it is experience, it is all. Without spirit my body is useless, therefore material is useless.
"If you bring forth what is within you, what you have will save you. If you do not have that within you, what you do not have within you [will] kill you."

"Whoever has come to know the world has discovered a carcass, and whoever has discovered a carcass, of that person the world is not worthy."

"Those who know all, but are lacking in themselves, are utterly lacking."
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I detect roleplay.

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Sorry, I'm usually not this bold, but I've had a few drinks 5a
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Lol, no role play. Science is beginning to back this up. The hermetics teach this. It was taught by the Buddha. The Jewish faith teaches this. All religions scream this stuff. It's really just how you deep you wish to read into it.
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Guys I will refer you to the best thread on this forum to continue your discussion:

[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]
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Im more on the prison side than playground side. It seems like we a de-evolved over time. we went from stone pyrmids to plastic buildings. I see no need for the material realm. The Spirit doesnt need to experience anything, it is experience, it is all. Without spirit my body is useless, therefore material is useless.
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However, matter is still a part of spirit. As we established earlier with thought forms and constructs, if you believe this place to be a prison, then that is exactly what it can be for you. If you view it with the eyes of a child where everywhere you look is endless possibilities, then that is also what it will be for you.
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Guys I will refer you to the best thread on this forum to continue your discussion:

[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]
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Read it. Pointless view. Another fear based thread on how we're "trapped". The only ones trapping us is ourselves.
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Im more on the prison side than playground side. It seems like we a de-evolved over time. we went from stone pyrmids to plastic buildings. I see no need for the material realm. The Spirit doesnt need to experience anything, it is experience, it is all. Without spirit my body is useless, therefore material is useless.
 Quoting: Motion & Rest


However, matter is still a part of spirit. As we established earlier with thought forms and constructs, if you believe this place to be a prison, then that is exactly what it can be for you. If you view it with the eyes of a child where everywhere you look is endless possibilities, then that is also what it will be for you.
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Quantum mechanics.

Thread: Qi
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Im more on the prison side than playground side. It seems like we a de-evolved over time. we went from stone pyrmids to plastic buildings. I see no need for the material realm. The Spirit doesnt need to experience anything, it is experience, it is all. Without spirit my body is useless, therefore material is useless.
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However, matter is still a part of spirit. As we established earlier with thought forms and constructs, if you believe this place to be a prison, then that is exactly what it can be for you. If you view it with the eyes of a child where everywhere you look is endless possibilities, then that is also what it will be for you.
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Quantum mechanics.

Thread: Qi
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Yes!

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