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Why Snow Flakes... ?

 
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Why Snow Flakes... ?
Updated to share this more
thorough article:

[link to www.filefactory.com]

Enjoy!

Scientists have only recently been able
to reproduce these intricate formations
of water molecules in the laboratory...

From: [link to www.scientificamerican.com]

"Despite the new advances in modeling snowflake growth, Libbrecht says, the fundamental mystery about snowflakes—how they form in the first place — is still far from solved. To understand how they grow, “we have to marry the mathematics with the physics, and that’s not been done, partly because we don’t know the right physics,” he says."

So, we can make them but have yet to
"... marry the mathematics with the
physics..."
of the water molecule.

To me, this hints that there is some other
energy involved not being accounted for,
at the microscopic level.

Snowflakes form in a wide variety of
shapes, not all hexagonal. In fact, the
vast majority fall as irregular 'clumps'
(according to [link to www.its.caltech.edu] )
My interest is with those that have symmetry
and are either planar or radial in nature.

The lack of depth in the growth of the
radial type is another clue to the nature
of the energy not being taken into account.

We know spheres will inherently pack
themselves in a certain way to reduce
the gaps between them, as do their two
dimensional cousins, circles. So, when
7 circles are packed thus:

[link to csidemedia.com] (from: [link to csidemedia.com]

it's the logical way they'll organise.

So, as these structures grow, why don't the
flakes grow, or accrete matter, in a more
robust, three dimensional array?

Now, if the initial 'seed' crystal (molecule?)
is spinning, any 'cling ons' will be
forced to accrete at the spinning seeds
equator.

As Libbrecht suggests later in the first
article I've quoted:

"... some of the missing physics may be related to a previously overlooked instability in the changing shape of ice crystals. Libbrecht has urged Garcke to incorporate the proposed instability, which transforms thick prismlike snow crystals into thin plates, in the team’s simulations. Garcke says he and his colleagues are now considering doing so, although he believes other effects may be more important."

Perhaps the "instability" Libbrecht
suggests can be accounted for by some
sort of vorticular energy being imparted
to the seed. Now I know falling objects
tend to tumble or spin, but I doubt there's
sufficient energies involved for this to
account for it, otherwise the physicists
would most likely have ‘married’ the math
to the physical already.

Interestingly, the hollow hexagonal type of
snow 'crystals' (definitely not 'flakes')
shown at the above CalTech website,
have a pair of inward pointing ‘conical
cavities’ (created by counter rotating
vortices?) which appear to have grown in
an axial manner, instead of planar, around
the vortices themselves. Capice?

In the series "Rise to the Equation",
Nassim Haramein mentions water, in a plasma
state, spinning in micro-vortexes, so perhaps
this compliments his theories relating to the
space-time field?

scratching

More constructive input most welcome!

peace

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Re: Why Snow Flakes... ?
Perhaps the planar flakes reflect
the 'explosive' energy of the
'radially aligned' spinning seed,
whereas the hollow, hexagonal types
reflect the 'implosive' energy of
an 'axially aligned' spinning seed?

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Thanks for the 5 star rating whoever!

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Re: Why Snow Flakes... ?
Love how Nassim describes the fractal
relationships of we Earthlings...

"People come out of other people!"

Thanks Mum, having great fun!
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Re: Why Snow Flakes... ?
magnetism
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magnetism
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That's a very enigmatic comment!

Ain't no iron, cobalt or nickle
in a snowflake last I heard...

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Hello there!

Nassim Haramein... i saw this person speak in this video... which i believe speaks about electromagnetism and frequency...

ENjoy please!

[link to www.youtube.com]

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"The forms of snowflakes and faces of flowers may take on their shape because they are responding to some sound in nature.

Likewise, it is possible that crystals, plants, and human beings may be, in some way, music that has taken on visible form."

- Cathie E. Guzetta

hf

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Re: Why Snow Flakes... ?
Kenneth Libbrecht's gallery of snowflakes...

[link to www.snowcrystals.net]
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“If you want to find the secrets of the universe, think in terms of energy, frequency and vibration.”

― Nikola Tesla
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Hello there!

Nassim Haramein... i saw this person speak in this video... which i believe speaks about electromagnetism and frequency...

ENjoy please!

[link to www.youtube.com]


 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14318044


Hello,

When I'm not paying so much for data
I will definitely have a look as I
have heard some good reviews of this!

Thank you!
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Notes/tones have a color?? We know it has frequency as well...


"41 Octaves above Sound - notes have color

We hear about ten octaves of sound and see about one octave of light with our eyes.

Because going up an octave is doubling, each octave has a bandwidth (range of frequencies) that is as large as the sum of all bandwidths of the preceding octaves (similar to each time a population doubles).

This means that visible light, 41 octaves up from from the middle of our hearing range, is an octave with a bandwidth many times greater than that of all 10 octaves of the hearing range. So the human eye has a very wide range even though it sees in only one octave..."

[link to www.miqel.com]



the study of cymatics also states that tone/sound/frequency also has shape as wells!


So yeah...
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"The forms of snowflakes and faces of flowers may take on their shape because they are responding to some sound in nature.

Likewise, it is possible that crystals, plants, and human beings may be, in some way, music that has taken on visible form."

- Cathie E. Guzetta

hf

yoda
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14318044


That resonates my being!

I know in radio theory physical size
directly relates to wavelengths and
frequencies... perhaps the varying
speeds similar 'sounds' propogate
in various mediums comes into the
equation somewhere then?

hf
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Kenneth Libbrecht's gallery of snowflakes...

[link to www.snowcrystals.net]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14318044


Astounding!

Or is it A-S(t)OUNDING?

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“If you want to find the secrets of the universe, think in terms of energy, frequency and vibration.”

― Nikola Tesla
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magnetism polarizes the nuclei of hydrogen atoms.
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"The forms of snowflakes and faces of flowers may take on their shape because they are responding to some sound in nature.

Likewise, it is possible that crystals, plants, and human beings may be, in some way, music that has taken on visible form."

- Cathie E. Guzetta

hf

yoda
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14318044


That resonates my being!

I know in radio theory physical size
directly relates to wavelengths and
frequencies... perhaps the varying
speeds similar 'sounds' propogate
in various mediums comes into the
equation somewhere then?

hf
 Quoting: fellowearthling


Right on... it's like water crystals are responding to some frequency, force, or field and taking shape to their own unique moment. Or something like that.

I gets a strong feeling you will enjoy the movie/documentary Thrive.

hf
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Notes/tones have a color?? We know it has frequency as well...


"41 Octaves above Sound - notes have color

We hear about ten octaves of sound and see about one octave of light with our eyes.

Because going up an octave is doubling, each octave has a bandwidth (range of frequencies) that is as large as the sum of all bandwidths of the preceding octaves (similar to each time a population doubles).

This means that visible light, 41 octaves up from from the middle of our hearing range, is an octave with a bandwidth many times greater than that of all 10 octaves of the hearing range. So the human eye has a very wide range even though it sees in only one octave..."

[link to www.miqel.com]



the study of cymatics also states that tone/sound/frequency also has shape as wells!


So yeah...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14318044


This correlates very well with what
a friend of mine is doing here:
[link to www.rainbowmusic.com.au]

Thank you for clarifying some of what
I've been hearing lately.

So... YEAH!
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Kenneth Libbrecht's gallery of snowflakes...

[link to www.snowcrystals.net]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14318044


Astounding!

Or is it A-S(t)OUNDING?

scratching
 Quoting: fellowearthling



Nice!

I often wonder why we can't hear (or see!) beyond a certain frequency...

Is it that we couldn't handle such, or maybe we have forgotten.

But basically frequency, wavelength, spectrum... it's all that and a bag of chips almost!

I could imagine it would be like hearing, or seeing things, in a new light (whatever that is).

Electromagnetic fields... when aren't we totally immersed that in... it's totally all around us, and have incredible dynamics and range... like the white light before they are separated into distinct color spectrums... i'm not sure where i'm trying to go with this, but i'd like to know the aspect of light and the rays before the separation or filtering...

That we only see just a sliver.. are blind beyond a certain frequency and wavelength... gosh i'm so looking forward to seeing all-that-is in a new light.


afro

"Humans may have a sixth sense after all, suggests a new study finding that a protein in the human retina, when placed into fruit flies, has the ability to detect magnetic fields.

The researchers caution that the results suggest this human protein has the capability to work as a magnetosensor..."


[link to www.livescience.com]

Good night. Thanks for the thread that provided the opportunity this one to speak about ideas like these.
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magnetism polarizes the nuclei of hydrogen atoms.
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Or maybe "electromagnetic" fields is always within a larger one, and perhaps when resonating to certain frequencies, manifests and takes shape and form to subtly being affected so some degree...
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magnetism polarizes the nuclei of hydrogen atoms.
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And they arrange in a hexagonal
cylinder, with a pair of inward
pointing conical cavities because
of their interaction with the
Earths spinning magnetic field?

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magnetism polarizes the nuclei of hydrogen atoms.
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Or maybe "electromagnetic" fields is always within a larger one, and perhaps when resonating to certain frequencies, manifests and takes shape and form to subtly being affected so some degree...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14318044



Or, what doesn't have an electromagnetic field, or a frequency? ;)

Do we have a frequency, and what happens when it rises, or increases? I want to know!
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I know in radio theory physical size
directly relates to wavelengths and
frequencies... perhaps the varying
speeds similar 'sounds' propogate
in various mediums comes into the
equation somewhere then?

hf
 Quoting: fellowearthling


Right on... it's like water crystals are responding to some frequency, force, or field and taking shape to their own unique moment. Or something like that.

I gets a strong feeling you will enjoy the movie/documentary Thrive.

hf
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14318044


Looking forward to Thriving!

If sounds are relevant, and I
believe they are, then the
implosion dynamic required to
balance the radiational energy
in sound might hold a big 'dot'
connecting many other dots?

If there's enough spin in sound
could it be the motor that drives
a galaxy?

"In the beginning, God said 'Let
there be light'"

So, before there was light, there
was sound?

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I know in radio theory physical size
directly relates to wavelengths and
frequencies... perhaps the varying
speeds similar 'sounds' propogate
in various mediums comes into the
equation somewhere then?

hf
 Quoting: fellowearthling


Right on... it's like water crystals are responding to some frequency, force, or field and taking shape to their own unique moment. Or something like that.

I gets a strong feeling you will enjoy the movie/documentary Thrive.

hf
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14318044


Looking forward to Thriving!

If sounds are relevant, and I
believe they are, then the
implosion dynamic required to
balance the radiational energy
in sound might hold a big 'dot'
connecting many other dots?

If there's enough spin in sound
could it be the motor that drives
a galaxy?

"In the beginning, God said 'Let
there be light'"

So, before there was light, there
was sound?

:scraching:
 Quoting: fellowearthling


If everything has a frequency, to even a personal level, what would it be like to match frequency to those all around us/yous, to even getting closer (or at least a harmonic frequency - like music chords(?) - different octaves but still sound great together) infrequency to a whole race, a planet, and even out there... what would that be like guys? And being just 'blasted' by a immensely greater frequency (and when we can match to handle such)... what would that be like guys?
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If everything has a frequency, to even a personal level, what would it be like to match frequency to those all around us/yous, to even getting closer (or at least a harmonic frequency - like music chords(?) - different octaves but still sound great together) infrequency to a whole race, a planet, and even out there... what would that be like guys? And being just 'blasted' by a immensely greater frequency (and when we can match to handle such)... what would that be like guys?
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Well, there's the conundrum, and a
solution, perhaps?

Our senses (the 6th I've heard best
described as the sense of knowing,
without knowing from where this
knowledge came from) have a design
limiting the input. Light and sound
are narrow parts of an infinite
spectrum, so this limit may be quite
wise, eh?

We've tended to not trust our sense
of knowing more than we used to,
imho, so hence we're falling back on
the basics. Simplicity that makes
sense... so the solution? We're
already all resonating together, in
harmony... we just don't recognise
that or allow ourselves to flow with
each other as freely as we could, if
we trusted the Universe more, see?

This is why we've created human laws,
and tried impose human limitations
on the infinite. Our materialistic
struggles are reflective of this lack
of faith... although the approach
of earthlings like NH are simplistic,
they're likewise reassuring. So, to
me the Universe is less chaotic and
more ordered, as out of the apparent
chaos involved with the dynamics of
unique flakes of snow or hollow,
hexagonal cylinders of ice forming,
a tangible, repeating structure or
pattern results.

Thankfully Universal laws are, well,
universal, and that is what ensures
our equality, regardless of what any
lawyer or Judge writes in any book!

peace

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Notes/tones have a color?? We know it has frequency as well...


"41 Octaves above Sound - notes have color

We hear about ten octaves of sound and see about one octave of light with our eyes.

Because going up an octave is doubling, each octave has a bandwidth (range of frequencies) that is as large as the sum of all bandwidths of the preceding octaves (similar to each time a population doubles).

This means that visible light, 41 octaves up from from the middle of our hearing range, is an octave with a bandwidth many times greater than that of all 10 octaves of the hearing range. So the human eye has a very wide range even though it sees in only one octave..."

[link to www.miqel.com]



the study of cymatics also states that tone/sound/frequency also has shape as wells!


So yeah...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14318044


There are folks with Synesthesia who will testify to that! wink

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It will depend on the type and frequency of the Cosmic Ray that induces the Micro explosion that causes the Flake to form in the first place.
The thing that hath been,
is That which shall be;
and that which is done is that which shall be done:and there is no new thing under the Sun.
Ecclesiastes 9:1
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There are folks with Synesthesia who will testify to that! wink
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Interesting!

I wonder if they see it as an
affliction or hear it as
benficiary?

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It will depend on the type and frequency of the Cosmic Ray that induces the Micro explosion that causes the Flake to form in the first place.
 Quoting: Spittin'Cesium


The explosive energy may help explain
the flakes radial growth, but what of
the hollow, hexagonal columns and the
inward pointing pair of conical
cavities? Is there some dynamic
balancing the source of the cosmic
rays with the effect they produce
terrestrially?

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It will depend on the type and frequency of the Cosmic Ray that induces the Micro explosion that causes the Flake to form in the first place.
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... and is this order or structure of
how water molecules form in our upper
atmosphere, because of cosmic rays or
a more inherent and pervasive energy
emanating from a source much closer
than a cosmic ray?

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THE GUY IS A FRAUD AND IT HAD BEEN PROVEN 100's OF TIME ON THIS WEBSITE & 100's of others.... DO A SEARCH...

1. Fake scientific awards that he awards himself
2. Fake Maths awards that he awards himself
3. Have you seen how much he calculates a proton to weigh in his other theories.... lol

Only suckers buy into this shit.... You do know there are real scientists out there, don't you?

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