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Obamacare will shut the rural Hospitals.

 
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This gets to be really bad on pediatric wards. When they drop it to one RN for the entire ward. That nurse has to do the work of med nurse the ward clerk...everything.

When they do this in flu season and right following back to school it is dangerous.

I have seen them do this and I hope it does not come to that again. Peds are compensate compensate crash. The will be fine one minute and crash the next on you. Next thing you know you got almost a full code and intubation on you.

With no help on hand.
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btw, i mentioned all the BS in here to my wife over lunch. She happens to be a RN at a hospital in the Mississippi delta region. it's in the poorest, and one of the most rural parts of the country. there are no indications or discussion at all of closing down. they are currently in progress with multi-million dollar upgrades structurally and electronically. they are also bringing in new doctors next year. sounds like they're making progress rather than the opposite. that doesn't really fit into the agenda here though, so i imagine none of you will believe me.

the majority of you people are fucking clueless or simply trying to get more votes for romney! the funny thing is romney will keep obamacare if elected, while some of you seem to believe he will repeal it!
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That wouldn't happen to be a predominantly black area would it?
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obviously, what's your point?
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The point is obvious. He's shutting off service to vulnerable whites to favor vulnerable blacks. He's moving help from likely Republicans to certain Democrats.

So I'll vote against him. I know he'd take from me to give to someone else as much as he could. And I'm just middle class, but white.
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And put the cost of all the AIDS patients onto everyone. We'll all suffer for Obama's "vulnerable populations", as he desires. They are his voting base.
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AIDS is meal ticket--Medicaid, section 8, foodstamps, disability, and several other AIDS-specific mooch programs-get yourself infected, live fine with "treatment", and bever worry about work again!-I know, i work in a county health department STD/AIDS clinic, I've seen it all, for years
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And put the cost of all the AIDS patients onto everyone. We'll all suffer for Obama's "vulnerable populations", as he desires. They are his voting base.
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AIDS is meal ticket--Medicaid, section 8, foodstamps, disability, and several other AIDS-specific mooch programs-get yourself infected, live fine with "treatment", and bever worry about work again!-I know, i work in a county health department STD/AIDS clinic, I've seen it all, for years
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If you were an employer, would you hire those people you are speaking of?

No right or wrong answer, just insight.
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10/15/2012 04:24 PM
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btw, i mentioned all the BS in here to my wife over lunch. She happens to be a RN at a hospital in the Mississippi delta region. it's in the poorest, and one of the most rural parts of the country. there are no indications or discussion at all of closing down. they are currently in progress with multi-million dollar upgrades structurally and electronically. they are also bringing in new doctors next year. sounds like they're making progress rather than the opposite. that doesn't really fit into the agenda here though, so i imagine none of you will believe me.

the majority of you people are fucking clueless or simply trying to get more votes for romney! the funny thing is romney will keep obamacare if elected, while some of you seem to believe he will repeal it!
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That wouldn't happen to be a predominantly black area would it?
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obviously, what's your point?
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The point is obvious. He's shutting off service to vulnerable whites to favor vulnerable blacks. He's moving help from likely Republicans to certain Democrats.

So I'll vote against him. I know he'd take from me to give to someone else as much as he could. And I'm just middle class, but white.
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link? any proof at all?
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That wouldn't happen to be a predominantly black area would it?
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obviously, what's your point?
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The point is obvious. He's shutting off service to vulnerable whites to favor vulnerable blacks. He's moving help from likely Republicans to certain Democrats.

So I'll vote against him. I know he'd take from me to give to someone else as much as he could. And I'm just middle class, but white.
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link? any proof at all?
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obviously, what's your point?
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The point is obvious. He's shutting off service to vulnerable whites to favor vulnerable blacks. He's moving help from likely Republicans to certain Democrats.

So I'll vote against him. I know he'd take from me to give to someone else as much as he could. And I'm just middle class, but white.
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link? any proof at all?
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bump
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That wouldn't happen to be a predominantly black area would it?
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obviously, what's your point?
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The point is obvious. He's shutting off service to vulnerable whites to favor vulnerable blacks. He's moving help from likely Republicans to certain Democrats.

So I'll vote against him. I know he'd take from me to give to someone else as much as he could. And I'm just middle class, but white.
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link? any proof at all?
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still waiting . . .
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That wouldn't happen to be a predominantly black area would it?
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obviously, what's your point?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14207070


The point is obvious. He's shutting off service to vulnerable whites to favor vulnerable blacks. He's moving help from likely Republicans to certain Democrats.

So I'll vote against him. I know he'd take from me to give to someone else as much as he could. And I'm just middle class, but white.
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link? any proof at all?
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i'm gonna bump this thread until i get an answer
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And put the cost of all the AIDS patients onto everyone. We'll all suffer for Obama's "vulnerable populations", as he desires. They are his voting base.
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AIDS is meal ticket--Medicaid, section 8, foodstamps, disability, and several other AIDS-specific mooch programs-get yourself infected, live fine with "treatment", and bever worry about work again!-I know, i work in a county health department STD/AIDS clinic, I've seen it all, for years
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Is this why some people want to get infected? I've heard this anyway.
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obviously, what's your point?
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The point is obvious. He's shutting off service to vulnerable whites to favor vulnerable blacks. He's moving help from likely Republicans to certain Democrats.

So I'll vote against him. I know he'd take from me to give to someone else as much as he could. And I'm just middle class, but white.
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link? any proof at all?
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i'm gonna bump this thread until i get an answer
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Oh, thanks muchly for bumping the thread. I just got back from doing a number of other things all day.

The link is this thread right here, two posts in this thread. Rural hospitals in white areas are closing. Someone pipes up with an example of a rural hospital that is having money showered on it, and it's in a black area.

Thanks again for allowing me to summarize what I found in this thread!
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I don't believe that. When hospitals charge 80 dollars for a box of Kleenex asking them to take a cut will not shut them down. Oooh so now they will only be able to charge 50 dollars for a box a Kleenex. Whoopdi fucking doo.

I'm sorry but when hospitals charging 80 dollars for a 3 dollar box of kleenex can't afford to stay open then there is a problem. And it's not Obamacare. I mean what does a box of tissue paper cost, $3 maybe. So you have them marking it up by 27x the original retail price(they get it for cheaper) and they still aren't making a profit.

And that's just one example. There isn't a single fucking service provided in hospitals that isn't marked up at least 4x over their cost.

When the hospital charges you more to sit on a paper covered bed for 15 minutes than the doctor does for seeing you that 15 minutes then there is a fucking problem.

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You are indeed a moron. First, no one charges for tissues; it is in the room & board charge. Second, no one pays $5 for an aspirin or $10 for a Tylenol. NO ONE PAYS CHARGES. All insurance companies pay between 10-20% of charges, on average, with Medicare and Medicaid paying much lower. Plus there are the 10-20% of patients who pay absolutely nothing, which have to be paid for by the insurance profits. Hospitals have to charge more & more each year because our costs keep going up to support physician lifestyles. That is just the cold hard truth.





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