the Baumgartner Jump - what did we really see???

Did you not read anything prior the jump?
Or at least listen to the dudes talking about the jump?

There is NO sonic boom because of his size. Jets have sonic booms because they are big, heavy etc.
He's small and extremely light in comparison. Hence no boom, no nothing, just him falling (very fast).

And he fell at 833.9 MPH (1,343km/h). I think the Maths is self explanatory...

Keep in mind that the freefall was just over 119,000 feet!!
That's 22 miles / 36 km
in 4 minutes 20 seconds!

You can neither see nor hear sonic boom (breaking the 'sound barrier') from that distance!
Video recording used Infra-Red (white on black/dark grey) for getting him in frame at 1342 km/hr then alternated back and forth from IR to normal.
Audio Recording equipment on Felix would be useless as he was traveling FASTER than sound.


Longer vid...


Last Edited by SE on 10/15/2012 04:32 PM

I thought this was an amazing feat. Well done Baumgartner, and well done Red Bull. It could of gone really bad, but they pulled it off.

So he is too small to make a sound? ..in regards to a sonic boom?
hmm I once heard, the sound of a whip ... the crack it makes is the sound of the very tip breaking the sound barrier ... so would there be any sound whatsoever?, and could you please address the other issues with such ferocity?

No he's not "too small" just too far away from ground recording equipment and moving too fast to record it from his suit.

what exactly did they have to distract us from yesterday...if u believe that jump wasnt real, your a fucking tool...damn..some people have the littles brain power.

It didn't to me, but then who am I?
I dreamed this well over a year ago. I never wrote it down, and thought maybe I ingested something I shouldn't have before going to bed, because it was such a strange dream. I'm trying to recall my dream, and have been since I discovered AFTER he'd already jumped that this was even supposed to happen.

In my dream, I'm on the ground, not in air. I'm unaware in my dream that this is happening until I see this balloon. Here's where details have become confusing for me.
The man is in a hot air balloon. The balloon is red, and he is wearing a red shirt. So, red is prominent in the dream.

**when I realized this happened yesterday I looked for the video of it so I could see what color the balloon was, and saw red tips on the parachute....didn't matter because the color is in the brand of the drink and sponsor.
I also couldn't get "sonic" out of my mind after reading JUST the dude's first name. I didn't know why, but isn't sonic the hedgehog red and blue? I have no idea how this fits in.

In the dream, I was going down the street. I wasn't driving...it seemed like I was either being driven, or was riding something like a bicycle, because I was able to hold my focus on this person going up in the balloon. I don't know who it was in my dream telling me about it, but I kept telling them he couldn't do it...he can't!! I kept repeating that. I was very worried about it in my dream.

What's bothering me about it right now is the fact that I recall the whole "scene" of my dream being me riding around on something, looking up in the sky, and feeling like I am leaving something, forgetting something, worried about something...

As I look back on the dream, and the reason I say it is a marker for other events to begin is because the "worry" in the dream took my focus out of what I was able to talk about in the dream...only being able to say..."he can't". I worried about something south and east of me, and I worried about something north and west of me. Unfortunatly, this is the only part of the dream I recall.

As far as the film footage goes...I want to know who made the jump with him to carry the camera that shot the images that were directly, or seemed to be directly across from him, many miles, but seemingly same altitude.
I also want to know what is supposed to happen to this balloon now that they supposedly jumped from it. I guess if it falls from the sky, maybe we'll have something to go on?
I don't know...I have wayyy too many questions about it, but I do believe we've been told some tales.

The "other guy", Joseph Kittinger, was the guy reading out the checklist in mission control.

Go on reddit folks, plenty of pictures from random locals around.

People are sending up cams on weather balloons to incredible heights from their back gardens these days, upscaling it to record parachute jump is not a big deal, you just need money, aka Red Bull sponsorship.

Weather balloons exist, parachutes exist, pressure suits exist. There's no need to fake it.

Exatly, it was just BS as usual, I thought there would be a helmet camera feed, instead I saw a small thumbling figure, what a BS.

Seems to me the worst of the "TALES" you've been told is that you actually graduated from your educational career!

This is all basic high school science (math,chem,physics) ferfuxake!

My apologies, didn't mean to come off as ferocious.
As to the sonic boom, I say 'no sonic boom' because it would have been very small.

I think falling at 834 MPH from 120,000 ft in around 3 to 4 minutes is realistic. And again, I didn't mean to come off as ferocious, just got slight annoyed.

I'm not leaning towards it being faked...yet.

However, a poster on the bullshit Daily Mail website asked a very good question. It is as follows:

"I know when snipers make very long shots they have to take the earths rotation into their computations. Wouldn't Baumgartners team have to do the same thing? If it took him two and a half hours ascent before he jumped, isnt that two and a half hours worth of earths rotation? How could he ascend from New Mexico and also land in New Mexico even with a light wind?"

I think you're mistaking the speed of sound with the speed of radio waves.

To simplify it for you.

Stand on the ground, draw the outline of your feet.
Jump straight up in the air.
Did you land in the neighbor's yard or back on the outline!??!

You are on the surface of the Earth and rotating through space at the same speed as the surface of the Earth - as is the air/atmosphere.

No. I'm not.

The AUDIO recording equipment would not record the boom occurring "behind" him as the 'sound wave' would be moving slower than he was and thus never reach, enter, and vibrate any microphone being used to record it!

*EDIT*
In case you still don't quite get it...

think of a shitty car moving 50 mph at its *maximum velocity*.
You approach and overtake it in a fancy sportscar moving at 100 mph.
The guy in the shitty car can't catch you to give the finger or tell you you're an idiot because you are moving away from him at a higher velocity than he is traveling.

Last Edited by SE on 10/15/2012 05:54 PM

Don't get so upset. You didn't specify you were talking about the sonic boom.

Anyway, there's no reason the sonic boom would never reach any microphone. Slower does not mean never.

Of course, of course.

ALIENS!!! It's all a conspiracy.

Yes it does and yes I did. You just chopped off the part to which it was referring.

I didn't "chop" it, it was some other quote and I only included your words. Anyway, it's not a federal case, okay?

Still, the sonic boom would be heard eventually.

I'll go outside and shout
"HELLO NUMBNUTZ"...
You write back when you hear it, ok!

So you can run faster than the speed of sound? Because that's what you'd have to do to prove your point.

Look, you need to go read up on the speed of sound. And CHILL!

Holy fuck you're an idiot!!!

and no.. I don't need to Chill, I'm perfectly fine...
While you on the otherhand are much too stupid to be using your computer to comment on physics.

is anyone still responding to teh topic,
which is that the capsule and earth were shaking
which is IMPOSSIBLE to make the earth shake!!!

dunno what it is that most peopel on GLP have such problems to stay on topic, to come with facts and behave in a civilized way


amazing!!






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OP...
I gave you the two videos for you to point out exactly to what you are referring when you say "shaking".

Please give me a time reference from either of the 2 vids in this thread.

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This version shows the shaking effect much better.

For Jets, after suitable modulation, the propagation of the radio waves is with the speed of light compared to which the speed of sound is negligible.

Would that apply to Felix and Red Bull Stratos' team, I dont know.

To what "radio waves" are you referring??
The transmission from the recording gear to the ground??

Sound is a pressure wave!

Nice!

I have not found any video that shows the live footage as it came on that day
I am sure they fikltered it out to prevent questions
that's why I am asking who also saw it
so far only one conquered

Did you see that shaking? Whole lot of shaking going on!