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why is the media so liberal when the majority of the people are conservative?

 
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why is the media so liberal when the majority of the people are conservative?
free press? the press and the people have nothing in common.
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Re: why is the media so liberal when the majority of the people are conservative?
The press is owned by the banksters, that's why.
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Re: why is the media so liberal when the majority of the people are conservative?
The press is owned by the banksters, that's why.
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the "real" citizens have no media outlet, we are fed a steady diet of fear and propaganda.
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Re: why is the media so liberal when the majority of the people are conservative?
The press is owned by the banksters, that's why.
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And you think that the "banksters" are liberal progressives? Are you mad?
Within the surreal depths of "reality" lies the truth.
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Re: why is the media so liberal when the majority of the people are conservative?
the media is run by yetis. it's the agenda no one is willing to discuss.
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Re: why is the media so liberal when the majority of the people are conservative?
Liberals think they know better than us regular people. They really don't.
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Re: why is the media so liberal when the majority of the people are conservative?
'The long march through the institutions'


Understanding the Culture War:
Gramscians, Tocquevillians and Others

by Steven Yates

We start the new century and the new millennium with a problem of major proportions: the seemingly unstoppable march of political correctness through American institutions and life. A recent article in the journal Policy Review, published by the Heritage Foundation, is worth reading for its insights into how we have ended up in this predicament – and also for why we seem unable to figure a way out of it. The article is by John Fonte, of the Hudson Institute, and is entitled "Why There Is a Culture War." If this article is any indication, Fonte’s forthcoming book Building a Healthy Culture, of which the article is an excerpt, is likely also worth reading as a barometer of where we stand.

Fonte contrasts "two competing worldviews" that are currently struggling for dominance in America. It would be fair to say that the two really are at war: Fonte somewhat euphemistically calls the contest an "intense ideological struggle." One he calls "Gramscian"; the other, "Tocquevillian," after the intellectuals he credits with having authored the respective warring ideologies: the Italian neo-Marxist philosopher Antonio Gramsci, author of Prison Notebooks and other works, and the French political philosopher Alexis de Tocqueville, author of the influential Democracy in America.

It becomes clear that one cannot understand either the meteoric rise or apparent immunity of political correctness to attack without understanding Gramsci. Rarely would I recommend actually studying a Marxist social philosopher, but this guy merits our attention. Gramsci (1891-1937) agreed with Karl Marx that every society could be divided into "oppressor" and "oppressed" classes (e.g., Marx’s own "bourgeois" and "proletariat"), but for the first time, expanded the latter into an ensemble of subordinate, marginalized groups instead of a single, homogeneous group. Whereas Marx had spoken only of the proletariat, Gramsci spoke not just of propertyless workers but also of "woman, racial minorities and many ‘criminals.’" Fonte documents how Gramsci distinguished two ways the dominant group exercises control, whereas Marx had only written of one. First, there is direct domination through coercion or force – political might in service of the economic interests of the bourgeoisie. Second, there is what Gramsci calls hegemony, which means the pervasive and mostly tacit use of a system of values that supports and reinforces the interests of the dominant groups. The repressed groups may not even know they are repressed, in Gramsci’s view, because they have internalized the system of values that justifies their repression. They have internalized a "false consciousness" and become unwitting participants in their own domination.

Is this sounding familiar yet? Think of the radical feminist philosophy professors and law professors who speak of romantic candlelight dinners – a staple of ordinary American life – as a form of prostitution. They justify this seemingly outrageous claim on the grounds that American women exist in "false consciousness," the hegemonic product of male-dominated (and capitalistic) values. The sense of abhorrence felt by "ordinary" women at radical feminist claims is nothing more than this "false consciousness" asserting itself. Gramsci went on to argue that before there could be any "revolution" in Marx’s sense it would be necessary to build up a "counter-hegemony," or system of values favoring the repressed groups that would undermine or delegitimize the hegemony-created consciousness. And because hegemonic values permeate the whole of society and are embodied in the warp and woof of daily life, daily life becomes part of the ideological battleground. All the institutions we take for granted – schools, churches, the media, businesses, as well as art, literature, philosophy, and so on – become places where the "counter-hegemonic" values can be seeded and allowed to take root. They become domains to be infiltrated, and brought into the service of the movement. As the radical feminists put it, "the personal is the political." It is interesting how the latter have lifted this idea from a white male European philosopher mostly without credit. The point, however, is to create a new kind of "consciousness" free of the values that allow the dominant group(s) to repress the subordinate groups. Only this will throw off the shackles of "hegemony" and lead to true revolution.......................... [link to www.lewrockwell.com]
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Re: why is the media so liberal when the majority of the people are conservative?
let me explain.

i'll promise to write slowly.

i'll even spare you some pesky grammar so that you can concentrate


the "media" is a corporation, therefore it is not liberal. it serves a purpose. to control you by controlling information and to ensure that the corporation grows. the true aim of the media is to eventually morph all corporate media outlets into ONE media source.

the talking heads on the tv and the radio repeat what they are told, things like "The liberal media blah blah blah." this makes you feel good, because you listen to the good guy who says something like this, "i'm the good guy, because i'm not liberal blah blah blah" I can hear you shaking your head in admiration, knowing you are listening to the good guy.

if said talking heads do not report what they are told, they will soon be barely employed by the real liberal media, what we like to call alternative media, or conspiracy sites.

eventually the corporate media will destroy the alternative sites due to copyright infringement and other legal means.

i guess that means that liberal media will eventually disappear, and you will only have ONE GOOD conservative source for your news and entertainment.

won't that be good for you
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Re: why is the media so liberal when the majority of the people are conservative?
and how exactly can the modern person be described as conservative.

addicted to tv
addicted to prescription medicine
addicted to religion
addicted to money
addicted to status
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Re: why is the media so liberal when the majority of the people are conservative?
Evil has initiative and purpose.
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Re: why is the media so liberal when the majority of the people are conservative?
The entire process is to cause discord and division. If the USA had solidarity the globalists would surely fail with the quickness. The more division...the weaker we are.

Explain that to your average football watching overweight homo.
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Re: why is the media so liberal when the majority of the people are conservative?
Liberals think they know better than us regular people. They really don't.
 Quoting: indiandave


That's it right there.

100% Correct.
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Re: why is the media so liberal when the majority of the people are conservative?
I still want to know how the special meaning for the term 'liberal' came to be adopted in america.

It has existed in politics since before america existed, and it's meaning is very different .

homer simpson complains about 'liberals'

and conservative means staunch monarchist, bordering on socialist.

liberal means right wing , anti socialist, pro corporation.


why in america are these terms given odd unique meanings ?
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Re: why is the media so liberal when the majority of the people are conservative?
Conservatives are always a minority. But they are more active and vote in order to preserve their self-interests (as everyone does).
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Re: why is the media so liberal when the majority of the people are conservative?
Conservatives are always a minority. But they are more active and vote in order to preserve their self-interests (as everyone does).
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That is incorrect.

The majority of the American people are center/right. More conservative.

That is a fact. Look it up.
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Re: why is the media so liberal when the majority of the people are conservative?
The press is owned by the banksters, that's why.
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the "real" citizens have no media outlet, we are fed a steady diet of fear and propaganda.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2059592


Is a weak grasp of logical fallacies a prerequisite for entering this elusive club known as 'real citzens' ???
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Re: why is the media so liberal when the majority of the people are conservative?
The press is owned by the banksters, that's why.
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the "real" citizens have no media outlet, we are fed a steady diet of fear and propaganda.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2059592


Is a weak grasp of logical fallacies a prerequisite for entering this elusive club known as 'real citzens' ???
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1277549


And by 'real citzens' I mean 'real citizens.'
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Re: why is the media so liberal when the majority of the people are conservative?
Same as the liberal Gov
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Re: why is the media so liberal when the majority of the people are conservative?
Whoa, Whoa whoa...this is the supreme fallacy that is constantly portrayed by the media and idiots like the OP.

the Majority of Americans are both liberal and conservative. Some are more liberal with social issues and fiscal with monetary ones. Others are the opposite (less common though, it seems). Some are ultra conservative, with a liberal view or two (usually because of a personal encounter in their life) and some are pro life, tree hugging hippies (honestly, I know one)

Why do we have to classify everyone as one of these two labels. It seems so simple and thoughtless. What is wrong with having a individual opinion on each issue without having a predetermined answer based on your "conservative" and "liberal" label...And I think this concept is one that is widely supported by the Millennial generation. It seems to be the baby boomers who have trouble with this idea.
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Re: why is the media so liberal when the majority of the people are conservative?
The media is not 'News'. It is only bullshit mind control for the idiots. It has been proven in 6 different supreme court cases against companies like Fox and Msnbc. They have zero legal obligation to tell the truth. Supreme court case ruling. Those media companies are for entertainment. Not news. If you watch them then you are part of the problem.
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Re: why is the media so liberal when the majority of the people are conservative?
The problem is that most people are conservative with their own money but liberal with other people's money. When they hear that there is a pot of group money(taxes) out there and that they can have a piece of it, they want their piece even if they don't need it. They see their needy neighbor getting something and think to themselves that they should be allowed to get something too rather than think that they are fortunate to not have a need for anything. It doesn't help that when they see their well to do neighbor with a new cell phone or new car, they think that they should also be able to have that so they extend themselves so they can get that also. Then they artificially become the needy one as well. I know this is a lot to grasp. Its a vicious cycle of keeping up with the Joneses and jealousy.

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