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How The CIA Broke It Off In Obama's October Surprise...
Ask yourself, why would an ambassador leave the protection of his primary Embassy to travel to an outlying consulate that had been attacked multiple times with only three security personnel?!?!?

Why would all the employee's get a chance to flee the consulate and travel to a designated safe house without molestation, except the Ambassador and his security team, who stayed behind?!?!?

Why would the White House have an exculpatory narrative ready to roll out blaming some obscure youtube video (directed by an Obama supporter) that no one had ever heard of prior to the Whitehouse's press release on the Egyptian Riots?!?!?

The answer is this: Jarrett wanted an October Surprise that would make Obama look like a hero prior to the elections, so they arranged to have Stevens (a close friend of Obama's) go to Benghazi where he and his military trained security detail would be taken captive by protestors that stormed the consulate because of the obscure youtube video, Obama would then coming riding to the rescue and free the Ambassador and his team to the cheers and adoration of the American electorate...

Jarrett engaged the Muslim Brotherhood, who was arranging the protests in Egypt, to kidnap the Ambassador, and they in turn hired a Benghazi militia to perform the task, but here's the rub, the CIA got wind of the plan, and they ran the Militia hired to pull off the kidnapping...

Long story short, the CIA told their boys to screw up the plan, kill the ambassador, and leave Obama's ass hanging in the wind...

Which they did...

Not knowing what else to do, the Obama admin went on with the planned narrative about the video being to blame, but the CIA came in shortly after and blew that out of the water with leaks revealing that the "protest" was in fact an organized attack...

And here we are...

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I like it!
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Well I definitely think it stands to reason. Obama has made a lot of enemies in the Military and CIA over his first term, I wouldn't be at all surprised to see them exacting a little payback right before the elections...
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An interesting theory, indeed!

5 stars.

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The question now is, what is plan "B"?!?!?
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Because I don't think Jarrett is going to give up just because the CIA shot her down in Benghazi...
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In this crazy ass world …who’s knowS you may be on to something or it was just what it was…a lack of security, a frailer in management and 4 people died over it

The part I cant get over is 4 Americans die ..a ambassador and Obummer flies off to a fund rally ?????? WTF?
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scratching
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Plausable.........fits
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sounds plausible
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...don't leave out the possibility of really stupid people trying to run the world and failing and then the cover up of stupid...no one is in charge then when it goes to hell,the empty suits display just how stupid they are...the MB would take orders from a woman?...really?...how open minded of them.
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I like it!
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me too
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Re: How The CIA Broke It Off In Obama's October Surprise...
Ask yourself, why would an ambassador leave the protection of his primary Embassy to travel to an outlying consulate that had been attacked multiple times with only three security personnel?!?!?

Why would all the employee's get a chance to flee the consulate and travel to a designated safe house without molestation, except the Ambassador and his security team, who stayed behind?!?!?

Why would the White House have an exculpatory narrative ready to roll out blaming some obscure youtube video (directed by an Obama supporter) that no one had ever heard of prior to the Whitehouse's press release on the Egyptian Riots?!?!?

The answer is this: Jarrett wanted an October Surprise that would make Obama look like a hero prior to the elections, so they arranged to have Stevens (a close friend of Obama's) go to Benghazi where he and his military trained security detail would be taken captive by protestors that stormed the consulate because of the obscure youtube video, Obama would then coming riding to the rescue and free the Ambassador and his team to the cheers and adoration of the American electorate...

Jarrett engaged the Muslim Brotherhood, who was arranging the protests in Egypt, to kidnap the Ambassador, and they in turn hired a Benghazi militia to perform the task, but here's the rub, the CIA got wind of the plan, and they ran the Militia hired to pull off the kidnapping...

Long story short, the CIA told their boys to screw up the plan, kill the ambassador, and leave Obama's ass hanging in the wind...

Which they did...

Not knowing what else to do, the Obama admin went on with the planned narrative about the video being to blame, but the CIA came in shortly after and blew that out of the water with leaks revealing that the "protest" was in fact an organized attack...

And here we are...
 Quoting: Saddletramp


Check out Lame Cherry's blog...Ulsterman and others...they're all saying the same thing about the reason behind Steven's murder..hostage situation gone wrong.
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I also thought that was a very plausable theory. Plan b is a military strike. Count on it.
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...don't leave out the possibility of really stupid people trying to run the world and failing and then the cover up of stupid...no one is in charge then when it goes to hell,the empty suits display just how stupid they are...the MB would take orders from a woman?...really?...how open minded of them.
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I would give that credence, except for the fact Stevens was no empty suit, the guy was bright and had a real future. There is still no real explanation for why he left Tripoli with only three security ops (when he had many more available at the Embassy), now they're saying he was going to the Consulate because it was being attacked...REALLY, and he was going to save the consulate with three guys?!?!?

Three guys who may have never fired a shot?!?!?

I think there is more at work than incompetence here...
"And how can a man die better than facing fearful odds, for the ashes of his fathers, and the temples of his Gods..." ~ Horatius

"Because he told the truth, and once you've heard the truth, everything else is just cheap whiskey..."
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You know this story has bothered me for weeks, it just didn't make any damn sense, this is the only explanation I can think of that puts all the pieces together...
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In this crazy ass world …who’s knowS you may be on to something or it was just what it was…a lack of security, a frailer in management and 4 people died over it

The part I cant get over is 4 Americans die ..a ambassador and Obummer flies off to a fund rally ?????? WTF?
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...don't leave out the possibility of really stupid people trying to run the world and failing and then the cover up of stupid...no one is in charge then when it goes to hell,the empty suits display just how stupid they are...the MB would take orders from a woman?...really?...how open minded of them.
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^^^ THIS
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Re: How The CIA Broke It Off In Obama's October Surprise...
Ask yourself, why would an ambassador leave the protection of his primary Embassy to travel to an outlying consulate that had been attacked multiple times with only three security personnel?!?!?

Why would all the employee's get a chance to flee the consulate and travel to a designated safe house without molestation, except the Ambassador and his security team, who stayed behind?!?!?

Why would the White House have an exculpatory narrative ready to roll out blaming some obscure youtube video (directed by an Obama supporter) that no one had ever heard of prior to the Whitehouse's press release on the Egyptian Riots?!?!?

The answer is this: Jarrett wanted an October Surprise that would make Obama look like a hero prior to the elections, so they arranged to have Stevens (a close friend of Obama's) go to Benghazi where he and his military trained security detail would be taken captive by protestors that stormed the consulate because of the obscure youtube video, Obama would then coming riding to the rescue and free the Ambassador and his team to the cheers and adoration of the American electorate...

Jarrett engaged the Muslim Brotherhood, who was arranging the protests in Egypt, to kidnap the Ambassador, and they in turn hired a Benghazi militia to perform the task, but here's the rub, the CIA got wind of the plan, and they ran the Militia hired to pull off the kidnapping...

Long story short, the CIA told their boys to screw up the plan, kill the ambassador, and leave Obama's ass hanging in the wind...

Which they did...

Not knowing what else to do, the Obama admin went on with the planned narrative about the video being to blame, but the CIA came in shortly after and blew that out of the water with leaks revealing that the "protest" was in fact an organized attack...

And here we are...
 Quoting: Saddletramp


Good stuff. I had put most of this together but your theory on the CIA just allowing the "kidnap plan" to go wrong could be valid.
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The question now is, what is plan "B"?!?!?
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sinkhole...

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...don't leave out the possibility of really stupid people trying to run the world and failing and then the cover up of stupid...no one is in charge then when it goes to hell,the empty suits display just how stupid they are...the MB would take orders from a woman?...really?...how open minded of them.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20022035


I would give that credence, except for the fact Stevens was no empty suit, the guy was bright and had a real future. There is still no real explanation for why he left Tripoli with only three security ops (when he had many more available at the Embassy), now they're saying he was going to the Consulate because it was being attacked...REALLY, and he was going to save the consulate with three guys?!?!?

Three guys who may have never fired a shot?!?!?

I think there is more at work than incompetence here...
 Quoting: Saddletramp


Ask yourself what did Stevens know that made the CIA off him? You said he was very smart, thats not always a good thing in the agency.
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The question now is, what is plan "B"?!?!?
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Plan B is to throw the election in hopes that his "political block" will riot because he is not confident he can win otherwise. It's the OJ card; certain demographics will riot as they have said they will and call foul/miscount. There will be a recount to calm the masses and; SURPRISE, he will win the recount.
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...don't leave out the possibility of really stupid people trying to run the world and failing and then the cover up of stupid...no one is in charge then when it goes to hell,the empty suits display just how stupid they are...the MB would take orders from a woman?...really?...how open minded of them.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20022035


I would give that credence, except for the fact Stevens was no empty suit, the guy was bright and had a real future. There is still no real explanation for why he left Tripoli with only three security ops (when he had many more available at the Embassy), now they're saying he was going to the Consulate because it was being attacked...REALLY, and he was going to save the consulate with three guys?!?!?

Three guys who may have never fired a shot?!?!?

I think there is more at work than incompetence here...
 Quoting: Saddletramp


I wonder is there is a gay-flamer subtext here?

Stevens was a homo, like Obongo.

Maybe they both frequented "Man's Country", to the extent that Obuttfucker came to regard him as a "loose end" (no pun intended), just like his black "down low" homo lovers in that satanic "church".

They all got waxed, too, in quite a short period of time.

damned
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...don't leave out the possibility of really stupid people trying to run the world and failing and then the cover up of stupid...no one is in charge then when it goes to hell,the empty suits display just how stupid they are...the MB would take orders from a woman?...really?...how open minded of them.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20022035


I would give that credence, except for the fact Stevens was no empty suit, the guy was bright and had a real future. There is still no real explanation for why he left Tripoli with only three security ops (when he had many more available at the Embassy), now they're saying he was going to the Consulate because it was being attacked...REALLY, and he was going to save the consulate with three guys?!?!?

Three guys who may have never fired a shot?!?!?

I think there is more at work than incompetence here...
 Quoting: Saddletramp


Stevens was reportedly very effective at his work.....Perhaps too effective and maybe he possibly was perceived as a hindrance to some "spooky" agenda, and was therefore expendable????
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Ask yourself, why would an ambassador leave the protection of his primary Embassy to travel to an outlying consulate that had been attacked multiple times with only three security personnel?!?!?

Why would all the employee's get a chance to flee the consulate and travel to a designated safe house without molestation, except the Ambassador and his security team, who stayed behind?!?!?

Why would the White House have an exculpatory narrative ready to roll out blaming some obscure youtube video (directed by an Obama supporter) that no one had ever heard of prior to the Whitehouse's press release on the Egyptian Riots?!?!?

The answer is this: Jarrett wanted an October Surprise that would make Obama look like a hero prior to the elections, so they arranged to have Stevens (a close friend of Obama's) go to Benghazi where he and his military trained security detail would be taken captive by protestors that stormed the consulate because of the obscure youtube video, Obama would then coming riding to the rescue and free the Ambassador and his team to the cheers and adoration of the American electorate...

Jarrett engaged the Muslim Brotherhood, who was arranging the protests in Egypt, to kidnap the Ambassador, and they in turn hired a Benghazi militia to perform the task, but here's the rub, the CIA got wind of the plan, and they ran the Militia hired to pull off the kidnapping...

Long story short, the CIA told their boys to screw up the plan, kill the ambassador, and leave Obama's ass hanging in the wind...

Which they did...

Not knowing what else to do, the Obama admin went on with the planned narrative about the video being to blame, but the CIA came in shortly after and blew that out of the water with leaks revealing that the "protest" was in fact an organized attack...

And here we are...
 Quoting: Saddletramp




Damn son, that makes some sense.

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Ask yourself, why would an ambassador leave the protection of his primary Embassy to travel to an outlying consulate that had been attacked multiple times with only three security personnel?!?!?

Why would all the employee's get a chance to flee the consulate and travel to a designated safe house without molestation, except the Ambassador and his security team, who stayed behind?!?!?

Why would the White House have an exculpatory narrative ready to roll out blaming some obscure youtube video (directed by an Obama supporter) that no one had ever heard of prior to the Whitehouse's press release on the Egyptian Riots?!?!?

The answer is this: Jarrett wanted an October Surprise that would make Obama look like a hero prior to the elections, so they arranged to have Stevens (a close friend of Obama's) go to Benghazi where he and his military trained security detail would be taken captive by protestors that stormed the consulate because of the obscure youtube video, Obama would then coming riding to the rescue and free the Ambassador and his team to the cheers and adoration of the American electorate...

Jarrett engaged the Muslim Brotherhood, who was arranging the protests in Egypt, to kidnap the Ambassador, and they in turn hired a Benghazi militia to perform the task, but here's the rub, the CIA got wind of the plan, and they ran the Militia hired to pull off the kidnapping...

Long story short, the CIA told their boys to screw up the plan, kill the ambassador, and leave Obama's ass hanging in the wind...

Which they did...

Not knowing what else to do, the Obama admin went on with the planned narrative about the video being to blame, but the CIA came in shortly after and blew that out of the water with leaks revealing that the "protest" was in fact an organized attack...

And here we are...
 Quoting: Saddletramp


I like it. But do you have a single piece of evidence, of any kind, to support it?
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Re: How The CIA Broke It Off In Obama's October Surprise...
You know this story has bothered me for weeks, it just didn't make any damn sense, this is the only explanation I can think of that puts all the pieces together...
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It would not be the first time an official is sacraficed to stop information or shut them up. Whole planes full of passengers have been shot down to kill just one target on board. I think Stevens found out about Obama working to expand Muzzie Brotherhood there and in Egypt. He then had to go.

I also find it very Strange Hilldabeast is falling on the sword in this thing. That really makes me think this is much bigger than just some stumble-fuck messing up. We all know the Clintons know how to damage control and falling on the sword is not one of them.

I was thinking She pulled this to trip up Obama then give her a good shot running against Romney in 2016. However most would forget about this by then.

I think most agree it sure is not what they want to spin it as..
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...don't leave out the possibility of really stupid people trying to run the world and failing and then the cover up of stupid...no one is in charge then when it goes to hell,the empty suits display just how stupid they are...the MB would take orders from a woman?...really?...how open minded of them.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20022035


I would give that credence, except for the fact Stevens was no empty suit, the guy was bright and had a real future. There is still no real explanation for why he left Tripoli with only three security ops (when he had many more available at the Embassy), now they're saying he was going to the Consulate because it was being attacked...REALLY, and he was going to save the consulate with three guys?!?!?

Three guys who may have never fired a shot?!?!?

I think there is more at work than incompetence here...
 Quoting: Saddletramp


Stevens was reportedly very effective at his work.....Perhaps too effective and maybe he possibly was perceived as a hindrance to some "spooky" agenda, and was therefore expendable????
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1526616


Yeah it may have been a two-fer for the CIA, screw Obama, and get rid of someone stopping the "Agenda" over there...
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I'd like to see some evidence, but I like your theory. 5*
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Long story short, the CIA told their boys to screw up the plan,
kill the ambassador, and leave Obama's ass hanging in the wind...

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Good theory.

That said, Obama picks the losers.


He is his own worst enemy. odance


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