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Focus Group ALL CHANGED to Romney NOT OBAMA

 
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WOW... Frank lenz group all independents many who voted for OBama last time... 96 % will vote for Romney...

Only 2 say they will vote for OBama.

They said the President was a bully... and a liar..

So... you see.. people know a liar when they hear one.
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A Frank Luntz focus group made up mostly of former Obama voters say they now support Mitt Romney.

"Forceful, compassionate, presidential," one participant said.
"Confident and realistic," said another.
"Presidential," another told Luntz.
"Enthusiastic," another reacted.
"Our next president," one man said.
"Dynamo, winner," said one more.


Video here...
[link to www.realclearpolitics.com]
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That's great!
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Well think about it, if you are still undecided at this point, you are NOT an O-BOT
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LOL you're retarded. That was a paid group of people fox planted.

You people are so stupid seriously.
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old man said obama was full of bullshit on live tv.1rof1
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WOW... Frank lenz group all independents many who voted for OBama last time... 96 % will vote for Romney...

Only 2 say they will vote for OBama.

They said the President was a bully... and a liar..

So... you see.. people know a liar when they hear one.
 Quoting: PardiseLost


Well that's a relief. They couldn't spot the liar in '08; I'm glad they can now. Guess he's lost his mojo....

I really think he is catastrophically ill, his energy is so depleted.
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This is how stupid americans are. Gary johnson is so for a better life for all of us. And yet most very stupid ignorant people in the usa think they can only vote for those two bought off douche bags by the elites romnutts and obbooba.
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Obama, you shouldn't have mentioned guns


Don't go away mad, just go away

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old man said obama was full of bullshit on live tv.1rof1
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I hope somebody can come up with a link on that one, I missed it...
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WOW... Frank lenz group all independents many who voted for OBama last time... 96 % will vote for Romney...

Only 2 say they will vote for OBama.

They said the President was a bully... and a liar..

So... you see.. people know a liar when they hear one.
 Quoting: PardiseLost


Yea, Barry damn near had an aneurism when Romney brought up "Fast and Furious" - I was fully expecting the secret service to rush the stage and tackle Romney ........
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This is how stupid americans are. Gary johnson is so for a better life for all of us. And yet most very stupid ignorant people in the usa think they can only vote for those two bought off douche bags by the elites romnutts and obbooba.
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Ain't gonna happen, sorry
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old man said obama was full of bullshit on live tv.1rof1
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My whole family laughed our ass off. I hope they buy that guy a beer after the show.
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old man said obama was full of bullshit on live tv.1rof1
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LOL you're retarded. That was a paid group of people fox planted.

You people are so stupid seriously.
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WOW... Frank lenz group all independents many who voted for OBama last time... 96 % will vote for Romney...

Only 2 say they will vote for OBama.

They said the President was a bully... and a liar..

So... you see.. people know a liar when they hear one.
 Quoting: PardiseLost


THE MEDIA NARRATIVE ISN'T MATCHING THE REALITY, YET AGAIN...

CNn tried so hard to throw this for Obama, and FAILED.
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WOW... Frank lenz group all independents many who voted for OBama last time... 96 % will vote for Romney...

Only 2 say they will vote for OBama.

They said the President was a bully... and a liar..

So... you see.. people know a liar when they hear one.
 Quoting: PardiseLost


Yes, I was watching it and it made me very happy.
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" At the siege of Vienna in 1683 Islam seemed poised to overrun Christian Europe. We are in a new phase of a very old war."

Gates of Vienna.

"May we smite our enemies to the darkest chamber of hell, for we wish only to live in peace, and they desire only to put their boot upon our neck."
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The Rummey - "Bain Capital" scam and how it works.

In a nutshell....

1) Buy a controlling interest in shares of the company, so you can get YOUR people on the board of
directors.

2) Get your Corporate Raider buddies to "make them an offer they can't refuse" and purchase the
remaining "public shares" of the company.

3) Now you and your buddies own ALL of the public shares of the company, and YOU control the
company and allits assets.

4) Now file the company as "Private" as all the public shares have been transferred from public ownership to your buddies
and YOU.

5) A private company does not have to make financial disclosure statements to the PUBLIC so you can
make up any story you want.

6) Fire all the company managers and put YOUR friends into lucrative positions with high paying salaries.

7) Falsify your net worth and equity, mortgage all the company assets, load the company with debt.

8) Give yourself and your friends large bonuses, strip all the cash assets from the company, falsify the
equity. (Cash Assets being pension plans and other cash reserves)

9) Now that you have "turned this company around" you find some suckers to buy it.

0) If you can't find any "suckers", "fools", "targets", "victims" to buy it, you file bankruptcy.

Bain did to Dade International what it did to nearly 80 companies when Mitt Romney was in charge -- it loaded the company up with debt for the purpose of declaring magical, gargantuan returns for itself and its partners.

By August, 2002 the company had $1.5 billion in debt when it filed for bankruptcy, causing the loss of 1,700 American jobs. Mitt Romney wasn't among that number -- he had "moved on", and in classic Obama terms, he was "looking forward and not backward". Bain Capital had already pocketed $216 million in net returns out of its $27 million investment in Dade International.

How the SCAM works...

In 1994 Bain Capital bought Dade International, a medical products company, for $85 million in equity, of which Bain put up $27 million and its partner Goldman Sachs (uh oh! -- red flag already) put up $58 million. The rest of the purchase price of the company, to buy out all the public shares, was financed with debt, which constituted 81% of the total financing arranged by Bain.

In the next four years, Bain, now in complete control of the company, tripled Dade International's debt from $300 million to $902 million. Some of this debt was used to retire previous expensive debt and to expand the company by purchasing a German competitor, but $242 million was used to buy out one-half of Bain Capital's equity interest in Dade International. In other words, in just four years, Bain claimed that $85 million in equity had magically turned into $484 million in equity. The company at this stage was private, so the capital could be whatever Bain claimed it to be, within reasonable accounting parameters. It just seems very unlikely that the equity in the company grew six-fold in such a short period of time, when net income wasn't anywhere near this amount. What seems much more likely was that Bain did to Dade International what it did to nearly 80 companies when Mitt Romney was in charge -- it loaded the company up with debt for the purpose of declaring magical, gargantuan returns for itself and its partners.

[link to www.opednews.com]

"Depletion and Depreciation"
[link to www.1031energy.com]

"shelter between 20% and 30% of the annual cash flow"
"the total write offs can ultimately exceed your investment"
This is an example of how the "Job Creators" use their great wealth to manipulate the politicians in Washington


(numbers exhibited here as an example only)

How the oil depreciation allowance works.

"An oilman drills a well that costs $100,000.

He finds a reservoir containing $10,000,000 worth of oil.

The well produces $1 million worth of oil per year for ten years.

In the very first year, thanks to the depletion allowance, the oilman could deduct 27.5 per cent, or $275,000, of that $1 million in income from his taxable income.

Thus, in just one year, he's deducted nearly three times his initial investment.

But the depletion allowance continues to pay off. For each of the next nine years, he gets to continue taking the $275,000 depletion deduction.

By the end of the tenth year, the oilman has deducted $2.75 million from his taxable income, even though his initial investment was only $100,000."

Since the depletion allowance is based on the gross revenue rather than the net revenue, it can shelter between 20% and 30% of the annual cash flow to investors until the well is no longer producing.

Also, the depletion allowance is not limited to your investment (basis) like in real estate, so the total write offs can ultimately exceed your investment.

This is an example of how the "Job Creators" use their great wealth to manipulate the politicians in Washington
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WOW... Frank lenz group all independents many who voted for OBama last time... 96 % will vote for Romney...

Only 2 say they will vote for OBama.

They said the President was a bully... and a liar..

So... you see.. people know a liar when they hear one.
 Quoting: PardiseLost


This turd in the white house has never been MY "president"

I absolutely cannot even STAND to look at this lying maggot.

Not to mention how sick and tired I am of illegal aliens everywhere, and everything having to do with "women's issues".
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The Rummey - "Bain Capital" scam and how it works.

In a nutshell....

1) Buy a controlling interest in shares of the company, so you can get YOUR people on the board of
directors.

2) Get your Corporate Raider buddies to "make them an offer they can't refuse" and purchase the
remaining "public shares" of the company.

3) Now you and your buddies own ALL of the public shares of the company, and YOU control the
company and allits assets.

4) Now file the company as "Private" as all the public shares have been transferred from public ownership to your buddies
and YOU.

5) A private company does not have to make financial disclosure statements to the PUBLIC so you can
make up any story you want.

6) Fire all the company managers and put YOUR friends into lucrative positions with high paying salaries.

7) Falsify your net worth and equity, mortgage all the company assets, load the company with debt.

8) Give yourself and your friends large bonuses, strip all the cash assets from the company, falsify the
equity. (Cash Assets being pension plans and other cash reserves)

9) Now that you have "turned this company around" you find some suckers to buy it.

0) If you can't find any "suckers", "fools", "targets", "victims" to buy it, you file bankruptcy.

Bain did to Dade International what it did to nearly 80 companies when Mitt Romney was in charge -- it loaded the company up with debt for the purpose of declaring magical, gargantuan returns for itself and its partners.

By August, 2002 the company had $1.5 billion in debt when it filed for bankruptcy, causing the loss of 1,700 American jobs. Mitt Romney wasn't among that number -- he had "moved on", and in classic Obama terms, he was "looking forward and not backward". Bain Capital had already pocketed $216 million in net returns out of its $27 million investment in Dade International.

How the SCAM works...

In 1994 Bain Capital bought Dade International, a medical products company, for $85 million in equity, of which Bain put up $27 million and its partner Goldman Sachs (uh oh! -- red flag already) put up $58 million. The rest of the purchase price of the company, to buy out all the public shares, was financed with debt, which constituted 81% of the total financing arranged by Bain.

In the next four years, Bain, now in complete control of the company, tripled Dade International's debt from $300 million to $902 million. Some of this debt was used to retire previous expensive debt and to expand the company by purchasing a German competitor, but $242 million was used to buy out one-half of Bain Capital's equity interest in Dade International. In other words, in just four years, Bain claimed that $85 million in equity had magically turned into $484 million in equity. The company at this stage was private, so the capital could be whatever Bain claimed it to be, within reasonable accounting parameters. It just seems very unlikely that the equity in the company grew six-fold in such a short period of time, when net income wasn't anywhere near this amount. What seems much more likely was that Bain did to Dade International what it did to nearly 80 companies when Mitt Romney was in charge -- it loaded the company up with debt for the purpose of declaring magical, gargantuan returns for itself and its partners.

[link to www.opednews.com]

"Depletion and Depreciation"
[link to www.1031energy.com]

"shelter between 20% and 30% of the annual cash flow"
"the total write offs can ultimately exceed your investment"
This is an example of how the "Job Creators" use their great wealth to manipulate the politicians in Washington


(numbers exhibited here as an example only)

How the oil depreciation allowance works.

"An oilman drills a well that costs $100,000.

He finds a reservoir containing $10,000,000 worth of oil.

The well produces $1 million worth of oil per year for ten years.

In the very first year, thanks to the depletion allowance, the oilman could deduct 27.5 per cent, or $275,000, of that $1 million in income from his taxable income.

Thus, in just one year, he's deducted nearly three times his initial investment.

But the depletion allowance continues to pay off. For each of the next nine years, he gets to continue taking the $275,000 depletion deduction.

By the end of the tenth year, the oilman has deducted $2.75 million from his taxable income, even though his initial investment was only $100,000."

Since the depletion allowance is based on the gross revenue rather than the net revenue, it can shelter between 20% and 30% of the annual cash flow to investors until the well is no longer producing.

Also, the depletion allowance is not limited to your investment (basis) like in real estate, so the total write offs can ultimately exceed your investment.

This is an example of how the "Job Creators" use their great wealth to manipulate the politicians in Washington
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The latest Gallup poll has likely voters going 50% for Romney, 46% for Obama.

That means this debate was trying to influence the remaining 4%.

Does anyone REALLY believe that Obama's performance tonight is going to send that 4% running to OBAMA??

Not a snowball's chance in hell.
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old man said obama was full of bullshit on live tv.1rof1
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I hope somebody can come up with a link on that one, I missed it...
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A Frank Luntz focus group made up mostly of former Obama voters say they now support Mitt Romney.

"Forceful, compassionate, presidential," one participant said.
"Confident and realistic," said another.
"Presidential," another told Luntz.
"Enthusiastic," another reacted.
"Our next president," one man said.
"Dynamo, winner," said one more.


Video here...
[link to www.realclearpolitics.com]
 Quoting: PardiseLost


2:45 in the vid of link that OP posted
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The latest Gallup poll has likely voters going 50% for Romney, 46% for Obama.

That means this debate was trying to influence the remaining 4%.

Does anyone REALLY believe that Obama's performance tonight is going to send that 4% running to OBAMA??

Not a snowball's chance in hell
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I like that saying!
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I have NEVER heard of a person say:


"I voted for McCain last time, but this time, I'm voting for Barack Obama."


Obama's already lost ... and he's taking the whole
fucking Democrat party and mainstream media down with him!



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The latest Gallup poll has likely voters going 50% for Romney, 46% for Obama.

That means this debate was trying to influence the remaining 4%.

Does anyone REALLY believe that Obama's performance tonight is going to send that 4% running to OBAMA??

Not a snowball's chance in hell.
 Quoting: Doc Savage


since its over

I suppose you will sit this vote out.

huh?

cruise
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WOW... Frank lenz group all independents many who voted for OBama last time... 96 % will vote for Romney...

Only 2 say they will vote for OBama.

They said the President was a bully... and a liar..

So... you see.. people know a liar when they hear one.
 Quoting: PardiseLost


That kindof surprised me too, I thought Romney had the edge, but all Obama had to do was do better to have a win, I mean he couldn't do any worse than he did in the last debate!!!

But the Focus group didn't feel that way...

I think these focus groups are interesting because they have the opinion from "BEFORE" the Media Spin...

All in all I don't think Romney hurt himself, scored a couple of points against Obama...

Obama for his part helped himself by stopping the bleeding from the first debate...
"And how can a man die better than facing fearful odds, for the ashes of his fathers, and the temples of his Gods..." ~ Horatius

"Because he told the truth, and once you've heard the truth, everything else is just cheap whiskey..."
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This is how stupid americans are. Gary johnson is so for a better life for all of us. And yet most very stupid ignorant people in the usa think they can only vote for those two bought off douche bags by the elites romnutts and obbooba.
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You are right my friend. THe only hope we really have is that slim chance we are wrong about them being puppets. In that case, the Nazi Obama needs to go. What I would recommend, is non swing state voters vote Johnson. Me being in Ohio, the lesser of two evils (Romney) is going to have to be the vote, as Johnson doesn't have a prayer. Now if they would have debated him, this would be a completely race.
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Frank Luntz's focus groups are paid actors....

dumbass
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The latest Gallup poll has likely voters going 50% for Romney, 46% for Obama.

That means this debate was trying to influence the remaining 4%.

Does anyone REALLY believe that Obama's performance tonight is going to send that 4% running to OBAMA??

Not a snowball's chance in hell.
 Quoting: Doc Savage


since its over

I suppose you will sit this vote out.

huh?

cruise
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Yeah, it's already over for Obama -- but we've all gotta do our part.

I've already voted for Romney.
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WOW... Frank lenz group all independents many who voted for OBama last time... 96 % will vote for Romney...

Only 2 say they will vote for OBama.

They said the President was a bully... and a liar..

So... you see.. people know a liar when they hear one.
 Quoting: PardiseLost


Dont worry, all this will change very soon when they stage the False Flag, elections will be cancelled and Obama will remain president. All Obama had to do now was to look strong enough to make these people in Frank Lez group, who seemingly know what they are doing now, change their minds once the event takes place and just adjust to accepting Obama as a permanent President.

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