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Focus Group ALL CHANGED to Romney NOT OBAMA

 
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WOW... Frank lenz group all independents many who voted for OBama last time... 96 % will vote for Romney...

Only 2 say they will vote for OBama.

They said the President was a bully... and a liar..

So... you see.. people know a liar when they hear one.
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Thank goodness...what we learned in Kindergarten still holds true...liar, liar, pants on fire....!
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WOW... Frank lenz group all independents many who voted for OBama last time... 96 % will vote for Romney...

Only 2 say they will vote for OBama.

They said the President was a bully... and a liar..

So... you see.. people know a liar when they hear one.
 Quoting: PardiseLost


That kindof surprised me too, I thought Romney had the edge, but all Obama had to do was do better to have a win, I mean he couldn't do any worse than he did in the last debate!!!

But the Focus group didn't feel that way...

I think these focus groups are interesting because they have the opinion from "BEFORE" the Media Spin...

All in all I don't think Romney hurt himself, scored a couple of points against Obama...

Obama for his part helped himself by stopping the bleeding from the first debate...
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Absolutely excellent observation.
All this has happened before, and will happen again.
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Obama failed for 4 years. 4 more would be disasterous.
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People are stupid ,but even stupid people don't like to be lied too!
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Obama did better this time, it showed.

None of them are legally elgible still, sorry everyone it is true-it would be if it was you or me-why is not for them?
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This is how stupid americans are. Gary johnson is so for a better life for all of us. And yet most very stupid ignorant people in the usa think they can only vote for those two bought off douche bags by the elites romnutts and obbooba.
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Yep. Sheeple even in elections.
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jerkit
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LOL you're retarded. That was a paid group of people fox planted.

You people are so stupid seriously.
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Those same 'plants' were pro-Obamao and against McCain when they did this 4 years ago. Did you speak of them the same way then?
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Early voting starts tomorrow for us- I'm gonna vote early so that on election day I can go around and check out the crowds.
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Obama failed for 4 years. 4 more would be disasterous.
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Obama said "NO" to your neighbor, Canada about an oil project that would create jobs for both our countries and energy security for North America.

He also won't lower to corporate tax rate in your country which is 35%, in Canada it is 15%, this would get big manufacturing coming home to North America.

Fuck Obama!
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obama will win
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obama will win
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If he does, he'll drag us all DOWN! Canada too.
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obama will win
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I don't care who wins, cause there all liars who will go back on thier promises.

I'm all in on Obama winning this election though.
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I'm one of those crazy people who believe that the US and Canadas governments are something like an oligarchy.
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obama will win
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I don't care who wins, cause there all liars who will go back on thier promises.

I'm all in on Obama winning this election though.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25080177



Hang out with losers, you become one. It's proven psychology.

That's what is happening.
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I'm one of those crazy people who believe that the US and Canadas governments are something like an oligarchy.
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That is destroying them both from within.
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obama will win
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I don't care who wins, cause there all liars who will go back on thier promises.

I'm all in on Obama winning this election though.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25080177



Hang out with losers, you become one. It's proven psychology.

That's what is happening.
 Quoting: KateSask


So i'm a loser for thinking obama will be re-elected, or cause I'm one of those crazy people I mentioned earlier?
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I'm one of those crazy people who believe that the US and Canadas governments are something like an oligarchy.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25080177


What you really mean to say is...."you've given up" Be honest!
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I'm one of those crazy people who believe that the US and Canadas governments are something like an oligarchy.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25080177


What you really mean to say is...."you've given up" Be honest!
 Quoting: KateSask


Given up? On the political system as it stands now? Yes.

Maybe one day I'll try getting into politics though.

Obama, his supporters, and his moving forward crap sickens and infuriates me.
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I'm one of those crazy people who believe that the US and Canadas governments are something like an oligarchy.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25080177


What you really mean to say is...."you've given up" Be honest!
 Quoting: KateSask


Given up? On the political system as it stands now? Yes.

Maybe one day I'll try getting into politics though.

Obama, his supporters, and his moving forward crap sickens and infuriates me.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25080177


Why condemn Romney, I'm not sure yet and I'm hopeful. That's the best way to handle life. My version anyways.
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And get into politics! Need a caring person! Awesome!!!!
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WOW... Frank lenz group all independents many who voted for OBama last time... 96 % will vote for Romney...

Only 2 say they will vote for OBama.

They said the President was a bully... and a liar..

So... you see.. people know a liar when they hear one.
 Quoting: PardiseLost


This turd in the white house has never been MY "president"

I absolutely cannot even STAND to look at this lying maggot.

Not to mention how sick and tired I am of illegal aliens everywhere, and everything having to do with "women's issues".
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25637148


my sentiments exactly

bump
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WOW... Frank lenz group all independents many who voted for OBama last time... 96 % will vote for Romney...

Only 2 say they will vote for OBama.

They said the President was a bully... and a liar..

So... you see.. people know a liar when they hear one.
 Quoting: PardiseLost


This turd in the white house has never been MY "president"

I absolutely cannot even STAND to look at this lying maggot.

Not to mention how sick and tired I am of illegal aliens everywhere, and everything having to do with "women's issues".
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25637148


Ill second that remark!
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I'm one of those crazy people who believe that the US and Canadas governments are something like an oligarchy.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25080177


What you really mean to say is...."you've given up" Be honest!
 Quoting: KateSask


Given up? On the political system as it stands now? Yes.

Maybe one day I'll try getting into politics though.

Obama, his supporters, and his moving forward crap sickens and infuriates me.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25080177


Why condemn Romney, I'm not sure yet and I'm hopeful. That's the best way to handle life. My version anyways.
 Quoting: KateSask


I havn't condemned Romney, I lean towards him though because the liberals and obama supporters annoy me so much.
I don't know anything about him though.
And don't believe he will win the election.

Things like the signing of NAFTA which have screwed Canada, and how Alberta (home province, along with Saskatchewan) is being screwed out of profits on thier resources and the carelesness with the enviroment the corps get away with, etc, etc, etc, the issues go on and on, I don't have any faith in the government.
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What you really mean to say is...."you've given up" Be honest!
 Quoting: KateSask


Given up? On the political system as it stands now? Yes.

Maybe one day I'll try getting into politics though.

Obama, his supporters, and his moving forward crap sickens and infuriates me.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25080177


Why condemn Romney, I'm not sure yet and I'm hopeful. That's the best way to handle life. My version anyways.
 Quoting: KateSask


I havn't condemned Romney, I lean towards him though because the liberals and obama supporters annoy me so much.
I don't know anything about him though.
And don't believe he will win the election.

Things like the signing of NAFTA which have screwed Canada, and how Alberta (home province, along with Saskatchewan) is being screwed out of profits on thier resources and the carelesness with the enviroment the corps get away with, etc, etc, etc, the issues go on and on, I don't have any faith in the government.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25080177


Okay, get where you're coming from now.
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Luntz is an uber shill and fraud.

The strategy with the GOP is to take their biggest weakness (lying) and accuse the other side of doing it.
It only works because the American right - people who evolved from the business plot and Nazi sympathizers - have spent 30 years deliberately dumbing down their citizens.

The 'end game' is global fascism, with an elite oligarchy.
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WOW... Frank lenz group all independents many who voted for OBama last time... 96 % will vote for Romney...

Only 2 say they will vote for OBama.

They said the President was a bully... and a liar..

So... you see.. people know a liar when they hear one.
 Quoting: PardiseLost


This turd in the white house has never been MY "president"

I absolutely cannot even STAND to look at this lying maggot.

Not to mention how sick and tired I am of illegal aliens everywhere, and everything having to do with "women's issues".
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25637148


my sentiments exactly

bump
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3405890


Turd my ass, thats pure diarrhea, no substance crap.
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The Rummey - "Bain Capital" scam and how it works.

In a nutshell....

1) Buy a controlling interest in shares of the company, so you can get YOUR people on the board of
directors.

2) Get your Corporate Raider buddies to "make them an offer they can't refuse" and purchase the
remaining "public shares" of the company.

3) Now you and your buddies own ALL of the public shares of the company, and YOU control the
company and allits assets.

4) Now file the company as "Private" as all the public shares have been transferred from public ownership to your buddies
and YOU.

5) A private company does not have to make financial disclosure statements to the PUBLIC so you can
make up any story you want.

6) Fire all the company managers and put YOUR friends into lucrative positions with high paying salaries.

7) Falsify your net worth and equity, mortgage all the company assets, load the company with debt.

8) Give yourself and your friends large bonuses, strip all the cash assets from the company, falsify the
equity. (Cash Assets being pension plans and other cash reserves)

9) Now that you have "turned this company around" you find some suckers to buy it.

0) If you can't find any "suckers", "fools", "targets", "victims" to buy it, you file bankruptcy.

Bain did to Dade International what it did to nearly 80 companies when Mitt Romney was in charge -- it loaded the company up with debt for the purpose of declaring magical, gargantuan returns for itself and its partners.

By August, 2002 the company had $1.5 billion in debt when it filed for bankruptcy, causing the loss of 1,700 American jobs. Mitt Romney wasn't among that number -- he had "moved on", and in classic Obama terms, he was "looking forward and not backward". Bain Capital had already pocketed $216 million in net returns out of its $27 million investment in Dade International.

How the SCAM works...

In 1994 Bain Capital bought Dade International, a medical products company, for $85 million in equity, of which Bain put up $27 million and its partner Goldman Sachs (uh oh! -- red flag already) put up $58 million. The rest of the purchase price of the company, to buy out all the public shares, was financed with debt, which constituted 81% of the total financing arranged by Bain.

In the next four years, Bain, now in complete control of the company, tripled Dade International's debt from $300 million to $902 million. Some of this debt was used to retire previous expensive debt and to expand the company by purchasing a German competitor, but $242 million was used to buy out one-half of Bain Capital's equity interest in Dade International. In other words, in just four years, Bain claimed that $85 million in equity had magically turned into $484 million in equity. The company at this stage was private, so the capital could be whatever Bain claimed it to be, within reasonable accounting parameters. It just seems very unlikely that the equity in the company grew six-fold in such a short period of time, when net income wasn't anywhere near this amount. What seems much more likely was that Bain did to Dade International what it did to nearly 80 companies when Mitt Romney was in charge -- it loaded the company up with debt for the purpose of declaring magical, gargantuan returns for itself and its partners.

[link to www.opednews.com]

"Depletion and Depreciation"
[link to www.1031energy.com]

"shelter between 20% and 30% of the annual cash flow"
"the total write offs can ultimately exceed your investment"
This is an example of how the "Job Creators" use their great wealth to manipulate the politicians in Washington


(numbers exhibited here as an example only)

How the oil depreciation allowance works.

"An oilman drills a well that costs $100,000.

He finds a reservoir containing $10,000,000 worth of oil.

The well produces $1 million worth of oil per year for ten years.

In the very first year, thanks to the depletion allowance, the oilman could deduct 27.5 per cent, or $275,000, of that $1 million in income from his taxable income.

Thus, in just one year, he's deducted nearly three times his initial investment.

But the depletion allowance continues to pay off. For each of the next nine years, he gets to continue taking the $275,000 depletion deduction.

By the end of the tenth year, the oilman has deducted $2.75 million from his taxable income, even though his initial investment was only $100,000."

Since the depletion allowance is based on the gross revenue rather than the net revenue, it can shelter between 20% and 30% of the annual cash flow to investors until the well is no longer producing.

Also, the depletion allowance is not limited to your investment (basis) like in real estate, so the total write offs can ultimately exceed your investment.

This is an example of how the "Job Creators" use their great wealth to manipulate the politicians in Washington
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What you really mean to say is...."you've given up" Be honest!
 Quoting: KateSask


Given up? On the political system as it stands now? Yes.

Maybe one day I'll try getting into politics though.

Obama, his supporters, and his moving forward crap sickens and infuriates me.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25080177


Why condemn Romney, I'm not sure yet and I'm hopeful. That's the best way to handle life. My version anyways.
 Quoting: KateSask


I havn't condemned Romney, I lean towards him though because the liberals and obama supporters annoy me so much.
I don't know anything about him though.
And don't believe he will win the election.

Things like the signing of NAFTA which have screwed Canada, and how Alberta (home province, along with Saskatchewan) is being screwed out of profits on thier resources and the carelesness with the enviroment the corps get away with, etc, etc, etc, the issues go on and on, I don't have any faith in the government.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25080177


You know what? Even if all of the above were true, at least Romney hasn't bent over and said," Give it to me and the United States." the way the other man has to our enemies for 4 years.
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This is how stupid americans are. Gary johnson is so for a better life for all of us. And yet most very stupid ignorant people in the usa think they can only vote for those two bought off douche bags by the elites romnutts and obbooba.
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Where do they find these moderators, the all irritate the hell out of me?
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