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Obama will remain President. Likelihood of chaos whoever wins....This is why!

 
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There's gonna be chaos whoever wins the elections and the PTB know this as neither candidate will solve the economic problems, or at least the PTB don't intend to. The boxing gloves are off at this point in time. Add to this the fact that the PTB also want their own chaos......they want war. Even in the middle of economic turmoil? Now, what will the masses do in the face of such hardship and confusion?

TPTB also know the masses will be on to them and wont buy this charade anymore. However, not to make the coming mass rage obvious....that it is about the political state of affairs in the country, they are gonna stage something soon to divert people's attention and get them fighting each other.

I don't support the political process but Obama is still president, will remain president and no matter how bad people think he is, he's not a fool and has done precisely what the PTB wanted him to do to bring the country to where it is currently. The PTB are likely gonna stage something before the elections or may allow it to hold and then declare the race very tight and that Romney won (this is just psy-op anyway as none of the voters who take part in this ritual actually count the votes). Romney would win the election but Obama will remain president because of the event (that is even if we are lucky to make it to the elections). You can also trust MSM to propagandise and manipulate public perception in the times ahead. My advice is that you shouldn't listen to them....
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Usually I have the MSM channels completely off of my TV. But I'm wondering that, in this home stretch, if we should listen to them, just to see what their plans are. Otherwise, it would be easier to blindside us.

It's a horrible thought, listening to the blather. But they are crazy (not stupid) and very egotistical, so we have two distinct advantages against them. And our most powerful advantage is that we have ethics and morals - GOOD - on our side!

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hey OP, thank you for your insight and critical thinking. Things are definitely brewing. I shall be keeping an eye on this thread.
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As long as the POTUS is TPTB's Monkey... they don;t care... as long as when they say jump... he says how high...
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UPDATE....

When I said in my OP that I expected an event, I wasnt even thinking of weather wars and the fact that it happened is no coincidence.

From this standpoint however, I see this happening concerning this election.

I still believe Obama will remain president and that event I spoke of to give him a PR in the eyes of the world which could be argued that it has already occurred with Sandy, even though I don't believe we've seen the worst of it to make the populace who still like him but on the fence, especially after the failed promises of 2008 and for the Romney supporters, to accept without rioting, that Obama can remain president. So something has to happen on the backside of this storm.

The masses will be given a reason to accept Obama to continue on as president and not to think too much about Romney. They will be told what to think and assuming the elections were even real, their reasons wouldn't be because they actually want him in power.

So either the following occur...

1. Either some flooding, rain or worsening/deteriorating weather conditions occur to justify the Global warming scandal. The scale of death that it would leave in its path, the shock other Americans unaffected by it or those with near misses, would cause a reaction of fear, panic, survival etc. I fear some locations would be used as sacrifice. The masses will simply be in shock to accept whatever outcome is declared in the election and that outcome is that Obama won. In reality, there wasn't an election and he simply remained in power. The election and campaign was a charade all along.

2. There could be another mega event, a False Flag, that will also cause great shock to make people surrender their will. The weather wars could also be such that many areas of the US will be in chaos, riots will break loose, supply chains disrupted, panic will ensue and since the military has already been quietly moved in, the country will be under martial law before you know it.

I just don't see the world being normal after this "election". Kissinger wants Obama in power for 3 terms so some event has to occur to make the US suspend its constitution.

Peace to you all.

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I applaud the OP. Critical thinking and quality writing.

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There's gonna be chaos whoever wins the elections and the PTB know this as neither candidate will solve the economic problems, or at least the PTB don't intend to. The boxing gloves are off at this point in time. Add to this the fact that the PTB also want their own chaos......they want war. Even in the middle of economic turmoil? Now, what will the masses do in the face of such hardship and confusion?

TPTB also know the masses will be on to them and wont buy this charade anymore. However, not to make the coming mass rage obvious....that it is about the political state of affairs in the country, they are gonna stage something soon to divert people's attention and get them fighting each other.

I don't support the political process but Obama is still president, will remain president and no matter how bad people think he is, he's not a fool and has done precisely what the PTB wanted him to do to bring the country to where it is currently. The PTB are likely gonna stage something before the elections or may allow it to hold and then declare the race very tight and that Romney won (this is just psy-op anyway as none of the voters who take part in this ritual actually count the votes). Romney would win the election but Obama will remain president because of the event (that is even if we are lucky to make it to the elections). You can also trust MSM to propagandise and manipulate public perception in the times ahead. My advice is that you shouldn't listen to them.

The PTB have too much invested into Obama with the world publicity stunt of 2008. He hasn't reached his use by date and cant just be dumped. If that were to happen, even the sheeple will have a rude awakening. For once, their view of the world contradicts reality. This will make them have a critical look at themselves, life and will even start questioning 9/11 etc. The PTB don't want this and even if you were to wake up, they'd rather have you wake up on the wrong side....Confused and in limbo. Obama's continued presidency is needed by the PTB for the world to know things aren't right but not being able to put a finger on what it is and with Obama in power, they can still be unconsciously drawn to the dark side. With Romney in power, it makes the masses think a second time before buying into whatever he says. The world is under a spell and the PTB plans only work with the illusion that people think they are awake and make the right choices. Their plans only work when you are asleep and led like sheep without any second thoughts or guesses. So they cant have Romney in power unless they want the masses have a rude awakening, up in arms against them and that means the world. Somehow the post of the POTUS of the US will no longer matter as well. Don't forget you now have the Super Congress.

Obama's legacy also wont be that of a failed president. If this happened, historians/the world will say a number of things....

1. The world would question why Americans, and even themselves, were so gullible and easily duped in 2008 and all through Obama's presidency. If they were fooled then, what chances are there of it not happening again with another Presidential Candidate or perhaps might have happened in the past? Ultimately the world will start questioning and lose interest in the whole political process in the US and the PTB cant allow this as they always want America to remain or appear as that strong nation and last beacon of hope for the world until they destroy it and destroy the world along with it. The PTB also don't want you asking these critical questions.

2. Obama will be stigmatised and appear as a fraud. This doesn't fit with the tailored image the MSM portrayed of him at the climax of the 2008 presidential elections and still do, which the world buys into. Again, if this were to happen, even the sheeple wont buy another sales tactic from the MSM and will question everything they are told.

3. It would indicate that Americans are fools all along for electing an incompetent person for President. "What other mistakes might they have made in the past?", so the masses of the world will ask. Now, the PTB dont want you looking back and questioning what you've been sold and bought into in the past. They dont want you to question that perhaps you are being lied to. Even Obama's slogan is "Forward" or something like that. How can you know where you are going if you dont know where you are coming from?

So you see, none of these fits with the image America has portrayed to the world in its history and this is why Obama cant be allowed to lose the election. None of this is good for the PTB unless they are packing up shop. Remember Obama also told Medvedev that he will have more flexibility after the elections.

To borrow a line from the Avengers' movie....."Until such a time as the world comes to an end, we will continue as though it intends to spin on". Some of us know that there has been so many awkward things happening to indicate something is coming that will change the world we used to know. My feeling however about this is that the PTB work with a cosmic calendar and are waiting for this cosmic event (although they won't tell you it is) to begin their own agenda. The PTB don't know the timing and until that event comes that changes the face of this planet. Until this happens though they will continue as though the world is normal. And this is is precisely what the PTB will do. To do that also requires maintaining the perception to the world of a country who is strong and knows, at every point in time, what it is doing and this includes maintaining Obama as president....well, until they destroy it from within.

There have also been worse presidents e.g. Bush walked away a free man with 9/11 gaffes. And Clinton, with serious personal scandals, still walked away unscathed. Obama, as far as most people are concerned, is clean. If he is clean, why must he not be allowed to continue as president? "After all, he's doing his job and his best in difficult circumstances and must be allowed to finish what he started", so the world will say. "He has done no wrong" and "Romney cant do better than Obama is currently doing". Voting Obama out will deem Americans as fools in the face of the world. This contradicts everything America stands for to the world.

It has been the norm now for US presidents to spend 2 terms and people accept this fact. Unless, there's a scandal of some sort, there's no reason for a president to spend 1 term. If this were to happen, it will make people question. Again, the PTB dont ever want critical thinking people.

The majority of the sheeple on this planet, not specifically in America, still believe in Obama and he is the best candidate to carry on the agenda of the PTB into the future. The PTB want war and Obama, unlike Romney who is trigger happy, will be the unwilling participant in this coming war after they stage their False Flag. He will be the charismatic leader, unlike Romney whom the masses have no connection to, that the world can rally unto and sell their souls in the process without actually knowing why or what they are doing. With Romney in Power, as a war president, it makes you question what the heck you are doing supporting a person or war that you have no attachment to. The PTB dont want you thinking in this line.

They are already easing you lot into the idea that Alqaeda is once again gaining momentum with the Libya incident. It will be no surprise now if they stage the next mega False Flag and the sheeple will all of a sudden have an epiphany as to who is responsible (Alqaeda).

What this fallout (an orchestrated drama) between the WH and State Department has also ensured is that the Muslim faith is once again brought to the forefront. Initially they told us it was the muslims but now they are saying it is Alqaeda. It doesn't matter either way as what is clear they are saying is that the Hoax "War on Terror" is once again an issue.

Well, none of who they claim actually orchestrated this matters if you know their agenda. It is to generate rage with other religious denominations for when they stage the next event so that they know who to blame and the masses can easily support their war efforts and/or fight each other instead of the elites. The WH and State Department know precisely what they are doing. Even Panetta warns of an upcoming 9/11.

What will happen however is that there is going to be an event. That event will cause a great deal of confusion as to what is truly taking place. Those who haven't been paying attention all this while will seriously be in Limbo. Obama will act as the charismatic leader in the middle of this. Last night's debate was intended to portray him in this light - a strong person that can still remain president. This will be the thought process of the unaware masses when elections are cancelled.
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I'm with you on a lot of these things, but there is one item that needs clarification.

Barack Obama is not as doing a good job here. The deficit is through the roof, unemployment is high, Obama puts people in his cabinet, like Goldman-Sachs and Monsanto ex-employees, who obviously don't have the American peoples' best interests at heart, he doesn't act in the best interests of the environment, either, and there are many acts of war with his stamp of approval on them.

In addition to that, a vast number of people don't believe Obama is even eligible to BE president. He is really seen as a failure by what I would think is a majority of Americans. So NOT getting rid of Barry could be seen as a huge mistake, and this may be what the PTB fear the most.

I did want to ask - where are you getting this information? You seem to be right on target with so much of what you say.

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What's really funny is Obummer and Romney supporters actually think this charade matter in the long run.

"You only have an illusion of choice. You have no choice. The people who own this country don't want a citizenry of people capable of critical thought. They only want people just smart enough to run the machines." ~ George Carlin
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I think you are right. Its amazing most people aren't able to connect many dots together to paint a picture of what's going on. Most just want to be told what to think. This site is a true reflection of this phenomenon.
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Sadly if you asked most people, if were they happiest before or after they woke-up most would say before ??? People no longer want to here the truth and think for them self. SAD!! head down, eyes closed, go to work, come home drink beer, hours in front of the boob tube, getup do again over and over happy life.
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Romney said....."Come November 7, we will all come together".

Ok!!! Just barely a day after election when supporters of the losing candidate will still be reeling over their loss, the nation is supposed to be united? I'm sure those 47% of voters Romney insulted are also gonna unite under him.

Obviously the elections, whoever wins, cant unite the country. So something is gonna happen that will unite them and make the elections a non issue!

Obama also said to his supporters that they need a president that they can trust that can make tough decisions when its not politically correct or convenient. Is he hinting at declaring a state of emergency when its not politically convenient?
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Thanks a lot.
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Romney said that you should vote for Love of Country.

Obama said that you should vote for revenge.

If you study these guys, it seems that they are saying the same thing but under what context?

Why would Obama say anyone should vote for revenge when in fact he is the most advantaged person especially since he is still president? Why does he seek a revenge against Romney, who just last month they were at the same dinner party? Surely Obama's VOTE FOR REVENGE has no place within this election. It just doesn't make sense. Romney hasn't done anything to warrant revenge against. If anything, Romney should be the one making this statement.

But........

What if Obama knew a False Flag is on its way that will make you lot emotional and then actually "VOTE FOR REVENGE". In this light, who would you be voting for? Of course it would be the sitting president, Obama, to take on whoever hurt America. Elections will become irrelevant in this context as Americans are rallied together for revenge against that party. Don't also forget that US-Israel are having the largest joint military exercise since last week to this week. Are they prepped for an event?



Lets also examine Romney's statement in this same context. If a False Flag were also staged, Americans would equally "VOTE FOR LOVE OF COUNTRY" That whoever brought this upon us must pay. Romney in one of his campaign appearances said that come November 7, "we will all come together". This also doesn't even remotely make sense. When you consider how tight the MSM have portrayed the elections to be, how would just barely a day after the elections, all these people supporting Romney or Obama who have now lost their chance, are now gonna forget their loss and unite? I can only imagine that there would be fighting the day after the election so Romney's comments about the nation coming together doesn't make sense whether he wins or Obama wins. Romney supporters are just all of a sudden not gonna support Obama and Obama supporter are just not gonna all of a sudden accept defeat and unite on either candidate.

But with a False Flag, all of their statements make perfect sense.
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Nothing is going to happen! You Americans are too lazy to do anything except eat and watch reality shows.
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he will win
because of fraud,illegal aliens voting,dead people voting
and then the republicans will cry but it won't change
anything, we are screwed anyway
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Right.
If it is a close election, which it will be,
they will "discover" all the votes they need to win.

Nixon beat Kennedy, but the thieving thug mayor of Chicago,
Richard Daley asked the democrats how many votes did they
need to win?
He said he would deliver, and he did.

Romney would have to win in a landslide for the election
to be beyond "fixing".
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thank god kennedy went in we would be ash if nixon went in earlier
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You see, these things are far more complex and far more implications than voting him in or out. For instance, the only way we know about the political stuff is through the MSM. They sold us Obama that he would fix our problems in 2008. We knew nothing of this guy. The world basically accepted this guy through MSM salesmanship.

If he is removed, it proves that he is a failure or fraud. What that also means is that the MSM is a fraud and the whole world will see this in full glare and wont buy their news anymore. This technically means that the PTB losses their most effective tool of controlling the masses. And not even Romney, if they elevate him to the position of president, will succeed in that position. It means the end to the plans of the NWO. This will never happen.

I am telling you this cause you'll never hear it on the MSM. So you guys are stuck with Obama
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Global Warming appears to be the main theme for the 1st Anniversary of the NWO and Obama will stay on in Power to sell this and other agenda of theirs to the world.

By Tuesday or days down the line as you wait for the votes to be counted and from other places or deciding states, a drama set up by the power structure just to make the race more dramatic and very close, a false flag will occur and a cold breeze will build up days after........enough to declare a state of emergency for and the the elections will be suspended/cancelled altogether or perhaps fizzle out in the face of deteriorating conditions and supply chain network disruptions. Your priorities will change and personal survival will be topmost on your mind.

Ohio is being reported to have some problems that wont allow them count the votes until 10 days after the election. This could be drawn out but as the country waits under freezing cold.....so will your will as to what is important most......your life or the results of an election. Eventually, you will accept your fate.

When this happens, you will believe weather modification is possible and wonder how they managed to order it in time for the elections. Romney is in on this too. He knows he cant be president and this election was just a charade...

You see, Obama's frequent media appearances, Nobel Prize winning, PR stunts, carefully crafted image, UN General Assembly stunt wasn't all for no reason. They were all carefully designed appearances by his handlers to be used in future......If you think the guy is stupid, you better think again. He was groomed for this post.


Things are far more complicated than voting him out. For instance, the only way we know about the political stuff is through the MSM. They sold us Obama that he would fix our problems in 2008. We knew nothing of this guy. The world basically accepted this guy through MSM salesmanship.

If he is removed, it proves that he is a failure or fraud. What that also means is that the MSM is a fraud and the whole world will see this in full glare and wont buy their news anymore. This technically means that the PTB losses their most effective tool of controlling the masses. And not even Romney, if they elevate him to the position of president, will succeed in that position. It means the end to the plans of the NWO. This will never happen.



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Sooo Obama won. This tells us that he is crucial in establishing the NWO. But we already knew that Romney wouldn't win. No false flag though which is strange, must still be coming :S
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Sooo Obama won. This tells us that he is crucial in establishing the NWO. But we already knew that Romney wouldn't win. No false flag though which is strange, must still be coming :S
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Yes he did. People were all over Romney winning without valid reason. I stated my reasons why Obama has to carry on and whether by crook or any other means, this has to happen. There was no way Obama could be allowed to loose. He is chosen by the NWO.

Obama will carry on and that was why I was careful in using the word RE-ELECTED. I said he will REMAIN because this is not an election. This is all drama setup to make it look like its real. The voters in this election are lemmings. Seems that there are very many of them. Had they woken up the election would have taken another Path.

I have said the economy wont improve under either party and the NWO have their agenda. Besides, assuming the election is even real, how could they decide on the election when the votes for Ohio wont be counted until 10 days from today? What about the implications of Sandy and the people that voted twice or didn't vote at all because of Sandy?

Although I don't want to get into their argument but this is all a stage managed drama. I have tried to project into what situations are on ground in my OP and these scenarios will play themselves out. In retrospect, people will see that this thing is a big mess, will remain contested and was not worth it at the end. That what I said was right all along. Romney wont concede in this election....just watch this thing fizzle out as Romney supporters give up altogether and accept Obama. There was never really meant to be an election.


A false flag is in the works to break this gridlock. Nothing has changed from yesterday to today so something has to happen to give Obama the momentum.

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Good call OP

So what happens next?

What's your opinion on Israel now hitting Iran or Lebanon?

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Good call OP

So what happens next?

What's your opinion on Israel now hitting Iran or Lebanon?

popcorn
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Thanks G3. I will get back to you on that.
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