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unpicked delicious expensive fruit left on trees to rot..and people hungry in the world..something aint right

 
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I have an abundance of apples every fall and cherries in the spring. I have asked the food pantry if they will take it and they said NO- they wont take any fresh fruit! WTF??? So, I bag it up and give it to everyone i can...sometimes leaving bags of apples outside my office with a "FREE" sign on them. But it is a pain in the butt to pick all the stuff. Church groups wont come out pick, i have called them. I agree, it is sinful to waste. Luckily the deer eat most of it.
 Quoting: WVGAL 13268035


Nature wastes nothing, what's not eaten just goes back to where it came from...
With freedom comes responsibility.

Heterosexual pride!

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The cost of shipping fruit from here to starving countries is to much to just give it away.
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Re: unpicked delicious expensive fruit left on trees to rot..and people hungry in the world..something aint right
But then people wouldnt have to work..
And people would have time to be..to think
To grow spiritually
To serve GOD

Instead of being kept busy..working..for food..that nature gives us in abundance
 Quoting: wildhoney


This world is under a curse:

GENESIS 3

17 And unto Adam he said, Because thou hast hearkened unto the voice of thy wife, and hast eaten of the tree, of which I commanded thee, saying, Thou shalt not eat of it: cursed is the ground for thy sake; in sorrow shalt thou eat of it all the days of thy life;

18 Thorns also and thistles shall it bring forth to thee; and thou shalt eat the herb of the field;

19 In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread, till thou return unto the ground; for out of it wast thou taken: for dust thou art, and unto dust shalt thou return.


You don't know WHAT in the world you are talking about.
Fruit trees need care. Crops do NOT plant themselves.

If we quit all our labors that God promised we would have,
most of humanity would starve to death within a year.

You sound like an idealistic numbskull.
You MUST be a left-winger!
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Re: unpicked delicious expensive fruit left on trees to rot..and people hungry in the world..something aint right
Where I live we have a group of Gleaners who come and pick leftovers to take to the food banks. :D Try starting a local gleaners group.
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Re: unpicked delicious expensive fruit left on trees to rot..and people hungry in the world..something aint right
I hear ya.
I live in a city.
theres food bearing trees all around and they just go to waste.
people plant shit ornamental garbage trees and plants and ignore and chop down the good ones

of course it's labour intensive, but of all the unemployed and welfares and lazy unemployable losers, few even notice what is right in front of them.
most of them get bitter and turn to crime and drugs in dispair of lack of money for enjoying life.
the rest drive around angry and aggrivated doing evil and hurting people so they can be a success at their stupid jobs they are fail at. and fail at being human.

I harvested 225 pounds of black walnuts this year from three trees (two form a neighbour and one in ours) in the backyard where i live I did all kinds of other stuff and i didn't even try very hard. I skipped over the hulls and probably wont make use of the shells either but just the nut meats alone once they are cracked, are worth about $200 or more and storeing them in the shell they last a long time.

i duped the two neighbours into tossing theirs over the fence for me instead of having to clean them up. The other someone else was cleaning their yard or i would have gotten more. They were just going to throw them all away anyhow.

they kindof taste like a cross between skeeter repelant and a pinecone with a appley nutty aftertaste.
it was quite a bit of work but I have nothing better to do with my life. I was spending lots of money on walnuts before. i looked in the store the other day and a plastic tub 300g of shelled walunts is 7bucks
if i was using the rest of the fruit (hulls for medicinal and stains and the shells) as well it would be worth even more.
it makes a big mess but contained and cleaned up its not a problem. I see many nut trees in just this area mostly wasted from a forgotten time when people had brains enough to utilize the resorces at their disposal. They don't need them, they just form a union and demand raises till they end up out of a job then blame it on other people, while blowing all their money on cheap thrills and useless junk.
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I'm a farmer and I have fruit left over at the end of harverst. I would open myself up to lawsuits if I let people come on my property and pick the leftover fruit. It's not worth the risk.

It's unfortunately the times we live in these days.
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I have an abundance of apples every fall and cherries in the spring. I have asked the food pantry if they will take it and they said NO- they wont take any fresh fruit! WTF??? So, I bag it up and give it to everyone i can...sometimes leaving bags of apples outside my office with a "FREE" sign on them. But it is a pain in the butt to pick all the stuff. Church groups wont come out pick, i have called them. I agree, it is sinful to waste. Luckily the deer eat most of it.
 Quoting: WVGAL 13268035


Thsts great tbe effort you put into not letting it go to waste hf
Matthew 16>18
And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it..
Peter was crucified..on Vatican Hill

"Thou shalt not kill" does not apply to murder of one's own kind only, but to all living beings; and this Commandment was inscribed in the human breast long before it was proclaimed from Sinai. ~Leo Tolstoy


You have heard that it was said, "You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy."
But I say to you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven; for He causes His sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous.
For if you love those who love you, what reward do you have?

..Immanuel ,The Christ (Sermon Of The Mount)


“WHAT YOU DO TO OTHERS YOU DO TO YOURSELF FOR THAT IS THE LAW..AND THE PROFIT"

..)

Preach the Gospel at all times..and when necessary use words..

St.Francis Of Assisi..

Dont look at where the finger is pointing..but at WHO is doing the pointing


wildhoney14@yahoo.com

[link to www.google.ca]

Be part of the re evolution of the Spirit..say yes to peace and love..be called child of God

Inherit the Kingdom

...Time of the Angels..


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10/17/2012 10:32 AM
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Re: unpicked delicious expensive fruit left on trees to rot..and people hungry in the world..something aint right
Each years are wasted by industry the amount of food to feed 7 billions people.
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Re: unpicked delicious expensive fruit left on trees to rot..and people hungry in the world..something aint right
My in laws are peach farmers and i have asked them why there is rotten fruit on the ground. They go through te orchard and thin the fruit a few times and that thinning usually gets just thrown on the ground. They have a contract with Dole, and Dole only wants peaches of a specific size, so at harvest, the specific fruit is all that is picked. The rest
Is left on the tree to rot.
I also think it is a waste. My in laws dont mind if i bring friends over to pick the left over fruit. We pick for us, and we pick for the local food bank.
 Quoting: no-one-special


So many lovely replies...people. making a difference..
Matthew 16>18
And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it..
Peter was crucified..on Vatican Hill

"Thou shalt not kill" does not apply to murder of one's own kind only, but to all living beings; and this Commandment was inscribed in the human breast long before it was proclaimed from Sinai. ~Leo Tolstoy


You have heard that it was said, "You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy."
But I say to you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven; for He causes His sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous.
For if you love those who love you, what reward do you have?

..Immanuel ,The Christ (Sermon Of The Mount)


“WHAT YOU DO TO OTHERS YOU DO TO YOURSELF FOR THAT IS THE LAW..AND THE PROFIT"

..)

Preach the Gospel at all times..and when necessary use words..

St.Francis Of Assisi..

Dont look at where the finger is pointing..but at WHO is doing the pointing


wildhoney14@yahoo.com

[link to www.google.ca]

Be part of the re evolution of the Spirit..say yes to peace and love..be called child of God

Inherit the Kingdom

...Time of the Angels..


oh and PLEASE STOP SENDING ME SPAM FROM AFRICA..thank you :)
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Re: unpicked delicious expensive fruit left on trees to rot..and people hungry in the world..something aint right
I was living in Carpinteria, So Cal a few years ago and the 20 acre ranch next door, up the hill was an orange and avocado farm with a mansion. The government seized the property for whatever and I had permission to use the place for hiking and trail running with my dog.

20 acres of the juiciest oranges and tastiest avocado's just growing and rotting. I helped myself every night and morning before and after work. Avo's were selling for $2.00 each in town, and heres me stuffing them by the hundreds in my back pack for months for free. Fresh squeezed orange juice avery day, free.

Not to mention beautiful, private running/hiking trails where I would get up with my dog and watch awesome sunrises over the ocean from the foothills every morning, all for free, right out my back door. Then at night in the dark hiking and star gazing while my dog ran all over, never losing sight of me.

Tons of food went to waste though. I can only eat so much myself. But I sure lucked out for over 5 years.
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i also chopped and stacked a cord and a half of firewood that people were throwing away from their backyads on this street alone.
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To the person that called me a left winger..i have never voted in my life..i dont have an appetite for politics..

Last Edited by wildhoney on 10/17/2012 10:44 AM
Matthew 16>18
And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it..
Peter was crucified..on Vatican Hill

"Thou shalt not kill" does not apply to murder of one's own kind only, but to all living beings; and this Commandment was inscribed in the human breast long before it was proclaimed from Sinai. ~Leo Tolstoy


You have heard that it was said, "You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy."
But I say to you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven; for He causes His sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous.
For if you love those who love you, what reward do you have?

..Immanuel ,The Christ (Sermon Of The Mount)


“WHAT YOU DO TO OTHERS YOU DO TO YOURSELF FOR THAT IS THE LAW..AND THE PROFIT"

..)

Preach the Gospel at all times..and when necessary use words..

St.Francis Of Assisi..

Dont look at where the finger is pointing..but at WHO is doing the pointing


wildhoney14@yahoo.com

[link to www.google.ca]

Be part of the re evolution of the Spirit..say yes to peace and love..be called child of God

Inherit the Kingdom

...Time of the Angels..


oh and PLEASE STOP SENDING ME SPAM FROM AFRICA..thank you :)
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The bees love the rotten fruit !They are stocking up for the winter !
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Maybe they would allow a church group to pick the fruit & then it could be distributed through charity sources to people in need.

That would avoid the abusive frenzy the other poster spoke of.
 Quoting: Lady Jane Smith


Yes, its sad that we need church to instill civilized behavior in people. In a church people are more accountable and have higher expectations,

No matter how much others complain, religion works !
 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINIST



God what a bunch of crap! I was molested in church by a preacher..FFS. I have yet to meet civilized folks in church..I quit going for obvious reasons but everyone I've met that goes are the biggest hypocrites I've ever met. One of my church friends..goes to church every Sunday..thats after getting drunk on Friday and watching porn on Saturday. Religion is an excuse, and is used by the people who need an excuse.
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As a species we have absolutely NO IDEA WHAT THE HELL WE ARE DOING!!!!
 Quoting: ****SUPERFLY****


The majority of the human species don't, not all of the human species. Don't put us all in the same boat.
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Great to hear so many people making an effort to not let food go to waste..or fruit..no one should go hungry or have to go through garbage looking for left overs

Last Edited by wildhoney on 10/17/2012 10:45 AM
Matthew 16>18
And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it..
Peter was crucified..on Vatican Hill

"Thou shalt not kill" does not apply to murder of one's own kind only, but to all living beings; and this Commandment was inscribed in the human breast long before it was proclaimed from Sinai. ~Leo Tolstoy


You have heard that it was said, "You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy."
But I say to you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven; for He causes His sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous.
For if you love those who love you, what reward do you have?

..Immanuel ,The Christ (Sermon Of The Mount)


“WHAT YOU DO TO OTHERS YOU DO TO YOURSELF FOR THAT IS THE LAW..AND THE PROFIT"

..)

Preach the Gospel at all times..and when necessary use words..

St.Francis Of Assisi..

Dont look at where the finger is pointing..but at WHO is doing the pointing


wildhoney14@yahoo.com

[link to www.google.ca]

Be part of the re evolution of the Spirit..say yes to peace and love..be called child of God

Inherit the Kingdom

...Time of the Angels..


oh and PLEASE STOP SENDING ME SPAM FROM AFRICA..thank you :)
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Maybe they would allow a church group to pick the fruit & then it could be distributed through charity sources to people in need.

That would avoid the abusive frenzy the other poster spoke of.
 Quoting: Lady Jane Smith


Yes, its sad that we need church to instill civilized behavior in people. In a church people are more accountable and have higher expectations,

No matter how much others complain, religion works !
 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINIST



God what a bunch of crap! I was molested in church by a preacher..FFS. I have yet to meet civilized folks in church..I quit going for obvious reasons but everyone I've met that goes are the biggest hypocrites I've ever met. One of my church friends..goes to church every Sunday..thats after getting drunk on Friday and watching porn on Saturday. Religion is an excuse, and is used by the people who need an excuse.
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White so-called "Americans" are the biggest hypocrits in the world.
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Re: unpicked delicious expensive fruit left on trees to rot..and people hungry in the world..something aint right
Went yesterday into he deep countryside to visit friends..with friends and this is what i saw:
Fields of fruit trees absolutely full of fruit..different kind of fruit trees...full full full of fruit..

The ground literally covered with fruit too that had fallen off..lots of it rotting
 Quoting: wildhoney


Well my pear trees were loaded this year.Having to trim branches and use poles to support them.We didnt eat any.All had spots inside when you cut them open and the ones we pulled off and brought inside to finish ripen had some type of fly that would develop inside the fruit.We figured if they had fly eggs of some sort we sure didnt want to eat them even if they looked good.
A lot of times if you see fruit laying on the ground there is a reason for it.My father had trees and there were some years we wasnt allowed to eat fruit from certain trees.Very few people have trees just so the fruit can rot.
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The cost of shipping fruit from here to starving countries is to much to just give it away.
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This is very true.Fruit weighs a lot and shipping is outrageous.
Also you have a short time frame to distribute fresh fruit and veggies and they have to be packed with ice in some shipments too.Greens as an example cant heat up and lay for 3 days on the way to the markets.
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There must be a lot of intoxicated wildlife around the area then... charlie
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There arent problems only solutions that havent been figured out yet
Matthew 16>18
And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it..
Peter was crucified..on Vatican Hill

"Thou shalt not kill" does not apply to murder of one's own kind only, but to all living beings; and this Commandment was inscribed in the human breast long before it was proclaimed from Sinai. ~Leo Tolstoy


You have heard that it was said, "You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy."
But I say to you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven; for He causes His sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous.
For if you love those who love you, what reward do you have?

..Immanuel ,The Christ (Sermon Of The Mount)


“WHAT YOU DO TO OTHERS YOU DO TO YOURSELF FOR THAT IS THE LAW..AND THE PROFIT"

..)

Preach the Gospel at all times..and when necessary use words..

St.Francis Of Assisi..

Dont look at where the finger is pointing..but at WHO is doing the pointing


wildhoney14@yahoo.com

[link to www.google.ca]

Be part of the re evolution of the Spirit..say yes to peace and love..be called child of God

Inherit the Kingdom

...Time of the Angels..


oh and PLEASE STOP SENDING ME SPAM FROM AFRICA..thank you :)
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in our town... there's a group of volunteers that go around the neighborhoods and help pick the fruit off the trees for people that aren't able to do so.

1/2 goes to the pickers
1/2 goes to the foodbank

and its keeps the bears out of peoples yards.
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Went yesterday into he deep countryside to visit friends..with friends and this is what i saw:
Fields of fruit trees absolutely full of fruit..different kind of fruit trees...full full full of fruit..

The ground literally covered with fruit too that had fallen off..lots of it rotting
 Quoting: wildhoney


Does the BIBLE not say in DEUTRONOMY that we should leave the leftovers in the FIELDS for the poor and widowed to come pick or something of this sort ?

Problem is EVERYTHING has been ENGINEERED to be the wrong way around. EVERYTHING is connected to MONEY the EVIL of this world.

If you see this happening it means the END is NIGH.

People have been conditioned in such a manner that they would rather look at another STARVE to DEATH than open their orchards for EVERYBODY to come and ENJOY his BOUNTY because it would be more expensive for this MAN to pick all the fruit and deliver it to a market, gas labour and such, to make it worth his effort.

Yes he has an excuse for leaving the FRUIT to DIE and rot bacause he would go BROKE if he did deliver and not make ANY PROFIT.

NOPE his decision was "I would rather let all the FRUIT ROT on the TREES than to allow ANYBODY to have ANYTHING"

WAY TO GO FARMER BOY !
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The fruit is not going to waste, it will fall and keep the ground fertile...
 Quoting: BRIEF


ummmmm possibly, but mostly no. drops, the stuff that falls off the trees, are considered toxic to long term health as they attract pests and disease. a properly maintained, and therefore the healthiest orchard, is one where leaf debris and fruit is regularly and swiftly collected from the orchard floor and removed to some distance where it is processed. drops are most often turned into fruit beers, and leaf/branch debris should be burnt.
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I was thinking..man what would Christ think if He saw all this waste..
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He would hit a few lazy entitled fuckers in the head with some lightning bolts
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That won't work because they are low income for a reason...they want trash food and drugs, not healthy and nutritious food...they would just tear up the gardens and let the weeds overtake it...
 Quoting: BRIEF

This is the truth. On this world, it is easier to destroy than to create.

The fruit is not going to waste, it will fall and keep the ground fertile...it's there for those that cultivate and WORK the land for their own benefit...
 Quoting: BRIEF

In GOD's unity, what is not used is returned to the soil to provide for future growth.
7 Billion people on the planet!
That's a BIG number!
And I am one.
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Organic..they dont bother spraying..land is very fertile everything grows..

All around us fruit trees full of fruit..expensive fruit...and tbe grou d covered with rotting fruit..fields and fields

I was standing there just thinking

-howmuch nature gives us
-and how many people are hungry while fruit rots..or fields in other parys of tbe world are not planted

A bit lf organization..good will..proper administration..effective food supply distribution and no one should go hungry in my opinion..

There would be enough food for everyone in my opinion
 Quoting: wildhoney


That's when you pick the fruit, dehydrate it and then either package it and sell it or give it to whomever.
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Lets face it..from a governmental position..every bit of unused land could be cultivated..veggies..fruit trees planted..especially in low income urban areas..or drug and crime infected areas..study shows how this has positive effects n the commu ity as a whole

Unwanted surplus fruit could be picked and distributed to soup kitchens etc.

So much can be done instead of figuring out what new wars to start
 Quoting: wildhoney


That won't work because they are low income for a reason...they want trash food and drugs, not healthy and nutritious food...they would just tear up the gardens and let the weeds overtake it...


The fruit is not going to waste, it will fall and keep the ground fertile...it's there for those that cultivate and WORK the land for their own benefit...
 Quoting: BRIEF


completely this
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In India, where they have really a lot
of "hungry" People more than 60%
of all Fruits and Vegetables get
bad because they have no cooling
and/ or no Transportation!

Here in Japan i need to pay ca 15 USD
for a Kg of Grapes, 2USD for one Apple,
Pear, Peach, etc.,
they all look perfect but c'mon- we need
Fruits, everyday and for everyone!

It is logical that poor People forget or
never learn how to est healthy!
G.Y.!B.E.
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Maybe they would allow a church group to pick the fruit & then it could be distributed through charity sources to people in need.

That would avoid the abusive frenzy the other poster spoke of.
 Quoting: Lady Jane Smith


Yes, its sad that we need church to instill civilized behavior in people. In a church people are more accountable and have higher expectations,

No matter how much others complain, religion works !
 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINIST


Funny, tell that to the natives that attended Catholic residential schools here in Canada.
Don't be thinking they will concur with your opinion.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 628775


I know a lady who says that residential school was the best thing that ever happened to her. It took her from a filthy abusive drunken home and gave her the tools to make something of herself.

She still took the settlement money though.

The residential school system was modeled after the British private school system and not all of the attendees were abused nor were all of the staff abusers. Some of them were good people who dedicated their lives to helping the native people but they are all tarred by the same brush now.

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