A Possible Sequence of Events According to Bible Prophecy

So you think that if I disagree with you, it's because I'm too ignorant or close-minded or stupid to recognize "pop" eschatology? And it's "contrived junk" because you disagree with it? And that people like me can't grasp what you said next?

I just give my opinions rather than condescend to people like that. I relish a strong argument as much as anyone, but I don't start off with wholesale judgments of their intellect or spiritual maturity. With an attitude like that, I think there's another reason people might be reluctant to read "what unfolds from here on in".

Did you even read my request in the OP to just ask me questions? Or do you intend to turn this into a flame war or what must be wrong with me? Try reconsidering your approach, and I might just find a reason to help you with those other ideas of yours.

Yikes. Did I *call* you ignorant, close-minded or stupid?

I'm familiar with the "lost tribes" theory but I don't agree with it. In the NT, written long after the split, Paul wrote that God has certainly not forsaken His people, and James wrote his letter to "the scattered twelve tribes"-- not the ten or two. In any case, the nation called American has had no covenant relationship with God.

Won't happen again

Jesus came for the lost sheep of Israel. THINK. WHO recognizes Jesus? Many just assume that the people who believe in Jesus are all gentiles....nope. God made the Israelites deaf and blind to who they really are. God is the one who moves people across borders. Out of all the time in the world, three lands opened up for migration "recently" - the USA, Canada and Australia. God said that once again His people would be placed in ships and lead away....

JerUSAlem.

Names are everything.

FIVE EVENTS TO COME:

1. Proclamation of “Peace and security!”
2. Nations attack and destroy “Babylon the Great”
3. Attack on Jehovah’s people
4. War of Armageddon
5. Satan and his demons are abyssed

For full details visit:

[link to www.jw.org]

Please understand that I don't give any regard to Jehovah's Witnesses teachings.

All teachings? Or just some in particular?

It appears you believe in Jesus being God's Son... so do we. Don't you find it interesting that Jesus emphasized the importance of unity of his believers? For instance John 17:20-23, John 10:16

Paul did so as well. 1 Cor 1:10, Ephes 4:1-6

All teachings. Where there is any overlap I don't need them; where there is discrepancy, I wouldn't accept them anyway. And I have indeed studied their basic teachings.

As for Jesus being God's Son, of course I believe that. But I also believe he is God, from eternity past to eternity future. Phil. 2:5-11 is particularly explicit in teaching Jesus' equality with God, laying it aside at the incarnation, and taking it up again after his ascension. There is also John 1:1 of course, and practically no scholars outside of the JW sphere accept the addition of a presumed indefinite article in front of God there.

Unity must not be at the expense of truth. Both Jesus and Paul spent a lot of time rebuking false teachers rather than trying to find ways to blend with them.

Are you saying that Jesus - who knew he had a very short time to accomplish his ministry (3.5 yrs) - didn't exert himself in the most efficient way? Is it possible that maybe he did and that your assertion about him is inaccurate?

Just think for a moment of all the prophecies that were written about him... he fulfilled them all... every last one of them for him to say "it has been accomplished". John 19:28-30

So, if he "accomplished" everything then wouldn't you agree that he completed God's will for him here on earth?

Your point of "blending" with false teachers has no Biblical support. It is NOT God's will. (Or, if you disagree, please post the Scriptural reference). Quite the contrary, he alerted all his faithful followers to false teachings/teachers because he knew the importance of pure worship and he did so out of love. Matt 16:12

Careful that the words at Rom 10:1-3 don't apply to you... you should seek God's righteousness instead of seeking to establish your own.

(If you assert something, it should have sufficient and consistent Biblical basis; otherwise, it's just man's opinion, wouldn't you agree?)

You seem to be arguing against a position opposite of what I actually hold. I have no idea how anything you said here applies to anything I said.

I obviously misunderstood your statement... my apologies.

Jesus always told parables or stories to explain thing so that those who didn't search for the truth couldn't find it. The story of Sampson alone should show you that the most powerful man around represents the most powerful nation around and just as Sampson turned from God by going against Nazarene laws of cutting his hair and living as he was living just as americans have turned against their God. Judgement came on Sampson and he went into slavery more than likely 42 months because that is about how long it would take to grow his hair back just as the americans will go into slavery 42 months before God raises up that deliverer

Hey KTTC ,

I like your topic and responses!

I noticed that...you caught yourself and you came back with a gracious and humble reply...Good example for the rest of us.

I noticed that...you caught yourself and you came back with a gracious and humble reply...Good example for the rest of us.

Sign of an advanced spirit.

On topic, here is the story in one thread. Thread: DAY OF THE LORD APRIL 2015 ARMAGEDDON? THE BLOOD RED MOON PASSOVER TIME CODE

It was a setup, I tell ya!

This is a summary, an outline, of what I personally believe to be the order of events yet to come. I am not predicting any timing as to when this begins, but only offering a possible scenario for what to expect once it does. I'm not claiming to have all knowledge, or to be infallible, or to have anything but reading comprehension to go on; I am not a prophet or seer or have a special standing with God beyond any other believers. And I certainly expect to be wrong about at least some of it, but that can only be known in hindsight.

So I would ask that people don't post ridiculous nonsense (yet somebody will), or flame me for having an opinion they don't like (they do anyway), or expect me to chase every debate challenge thrown at me (and label me a coward for not accepting). It's just an expression of my opinion.

The Bible is not one book but 66 of them, written over a period of over 1400 years, by some 40 different writers on various continents and from various cultures. Yet it carries a unified theme of creation, fall, redemption, mercy, and final justice in the next life. It shows that God changes the parameters from one epoch to another, such that the requirements for gaining His favor are not always the same. People get prophecies all mixed together and reach erroneous conclusions if they don't recognize this critical fact. That is, one cannot lift a prophecy for the nation of Israel and indiscriminately apply it to the "church" and vice versa. Epoch or age is as much a part of context as anything else and cannot be ignored. So proof-texts or "helicopter exegesis" will not fly with me (pun intended); know your ages (a.k.a. "dispensations", which literally means "house rules").
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1. The Rapture. I believe in the pre-tribulation Rapture of the believers to end this "age of grace through faith", and I believe it solely upon the text of scripture. There are many lies being repeated about some vision of Margaret MacDonald in the middle ages, or Darby, or Schofield, or a hundred other scapegoats who aren't here to defend themselves. Nobody I know who believes in the Rapture depends on those people or writings outside of the Bible.

2. A span of time, anywhere from days to 3-1/2 years. This may be the time of the Seal judgments:
1-4 the four horses (conquest, hot war, economic crash, death of 1/4 the earth's population, and pestilence)
5- mass martyrdom of those holding to "the testimony of Jesus"
6- many huge natural and cosmic disasters
7- a brief respite before the next set of 7 judgments

3. The confirmation or formal enactment of a 7-year treaty that involves "many" people. It is signed by the Antichrist, and marks the beginning of the Tribulation, which also lasts 7 years. The length of the years may be shorter at that time due to the previous natural/cosmic disasters; the likely number of days is 360, which is explicitly stated as such or one of its multiples or divisibles.

4. The seven Trumpet judgments:
1- Hail, fire, 1/3 of the earth burned up
2- A "blazing mountain" strikes the sea, destroying 1/3 of it
3- The star Wormwood, also ablaze, strikes the rivers and poisons 1/3 of them
4- Light from the heavenly bodies is reduced by 1/3
5- The Abyss is opened, releasing an army of locust-like beings who are allowed to torment people (except those having the Seal of God on their foreheads) for 5 months; they will want to die but will not be able
6- Four powerful angels bound at the Euphrates River are released to lead an army of 200 million mounted troops (human soldiers? demons? creatures? bots?) to kill 1/3 of the earth's population
7- The two Beasts are described (a.k.a. the Beast and the False Prophet), and there are 3-1/2 years (1260 days, "a time, times, and half a time") left to go. This is when the Mark of the Beast is commanded. Believing Jews are to flee to "a place prepared for them in the desert", likely the ancient city Petra, where they will ride out the final 3-1/2 years in safety.

5. The seven Bowls, a.k.a. "The Great Tribulation"
1- Terrible ulcers break out on people who took the Mark of the Beast and worshiped his image (idol)
2- The sea becomes blood and everything in it dies
3- The rivers become blood
4- The sun scorches people severely
5- A thick and terrible darkness descends upon the kingdom of the Beast
6- The Euphrates River is dried up and "unclean" spirits cross over
7- The Battle of Armageddon, a global earthquake that levels all the cities and mountains and destroys all the islands, and hail stones weighing 100 pounds begin to fall

6. Jesus returns to earth, this time not just to the air above it, followed by the armies of heaven. He immediately destroyes the vast army arrayed against Him and his people, and he throws the Beast and the False Prophet into the Lake of Fire. Satan is bound and thrown into the Abyss for the duration of the Millennium.

7. The Millennium, a thousand years of peace under the rule of Jesus Himself.

8. The brief release of Satan from the Abyss, to "deceive the nations" into rebellion against Jesus and his kingdom. He is immediately thrown into the Lake of Fire. Then a judgment hall is convened in order to judge the deeds of all who ever rebelled.

9. The old earth and space will be discarded and replaced. The New Jerusalem will be brought down from heaven to its permanent location, either just above or on the surface of the earth. There will be no more suffering, no more death, no more pain for all who belong to God, forever.

Further reading:
[link to bible.fether.net] (choose Rev. from the dropdown)
[link to bible.fether.net] (commentary)
[link to www.fether.net] (ref. also the OT prophecies that pertain to the Tribulation, as well as other NT prophecies of the same)
[link to www.raptureme.com] (scholar Thomas Ice)
[link to gracethrufaith.com] (Jack Kelley, see articles in sidebar)

Other than the rapture nonsense, this looks pretty good. Thanks for sharing!

Thanks!

I still feel bad about snapping at that one AC and hope my apologies are accepted, though. The analyst in me needs to count to ten before going to work.

Other than the rapture nonsense, this looks pretty good.

No sweat

Works for me! And I pray that your health will continue to be good.

After some thought, I'm going to say that I don't believe in most of what you are saying, no offense. I don't think the " rapture " is so much a physical event as it is an allegorical one, if anything at all. So, I think we'll just have to agree to disagree for now and see how things play out.

And thanks for the kind words.