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Message Subject The Mayans: See Who THEY Say Will Return in 2012
Poster Handle M.E.
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I agree with you regarding the falsification of the prophecies; however, if you read the translations of Chilam Balam you find prophecy of a spiritual awakening. The Mayans are not the only culture who captured the 2012 end-cycle year. The ancient Egyptians captured it in the pyramid timeline. Any true student of Mayan (and really Olmec prophecy who are their African parent civilization) will tell you 2012 is about spiritual transformation, earth changes, social changes and the return of the gods. Chilam Balam corroborated these with his prophecy.We are seeing ALL of these now with the exception of two. I will be watching...
 Quoting: M.E.

Which Chilam Balaam? There are many, and they do not all come from the same people. I don't need to read translations. I have friends and family that can verbally translate into Spanish from originals that are kept in many towns to this day. None of what you claim is true, according to the real written history of this noble people. You really have no idea. As usual, the words of a non native are given more weight than the words of indigenous people.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10422385

I am referring to "Chilam Balam of Chumayel" which I studied. And I speak Spanish fluently but this clearly does not qualify me as an expert on the Maya. Nice try with that one ;).

Second, I am not claiming anything. I am merely presenting facts from research I have encountered over many decades. These are not my theories but reoccurring themes across ancient cultures BESIDES the Mayans. The parent civilization of the Maya is the Olmecs and you need to research them ALL to gain a foothold to ponder ALL their ancient themes.

Ironically, you state the indigenous people words should have more weight but they were scattered about AND did not possess the ancient codices stolen from them. Furthermore their education level has been decimated and most remnants of been reduced to farming cultures.

This is basic detective work and if you have put time into your case it will be weak.
 Quoting: M.E.

I have put more time into all of this than you will ever know. My research and my sources are solid and I have posted on this site extensively with sound methods for anyone to test my conclusions and either prove or disprove them. Unfortunately nobody cares to listen to what a native has to say about native culture, what with all of the western skewed interpretations that try to put it into little boxes that fit with what they believe to be true. More often than not, I get flamed for expressing what I know, or ignored. Not that I care, but I do care about people twisting native culture and attributing those twists to natives. As for the Olmecs, just the fact that you call them that shows that you don't know as much as you think you do.
 Quoting: KeepingItReal

I respect and commend your commitment to your culture. I mean no disrespect to you or your culture. I care enough to listen to you and would respect your views; however, it does not mean I will agree with them.

To study the Mayan culture means you will have to study the Olmec culture extensively. It is proven and accepted by the academic community the Olmec is in fact the parent civilization of the Mayan. Apparent by the pyramid construction which clearly predate the Maya.

If you follow the migration patterns of the Sumerian to Egyptian to Olmec it is quite apparent.

As you know many scholars with Phds in front of their names have debated this same subject. I have no interest in debating this point with you. I have read the research of men who have dedicated their lives to this and I choose and I am convinced the Olmecs are the parent civilization of the Maya.
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