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Sinkhole & Buoy's related????

 
Solneman
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Sinkhole & Buoy's related????
DISCLAIMER: I think this is a crazy idea, but I am not an expert. So I would like to hear what everybody else thinks about this.

There have been a lot of threads discussing buoy activity near Java. There have also been as many or more threads about the LA sinkhole. I've read many of those threads. This evening I was looking at a globe and noticed something. If you have a globe nearby take a look so you can see where I got this crazy idea. If you don't have a globe handy, see the web-links below. Once you've found a globe locate the sinkhole in LA and place a finger there. Now find the location of the buoy near Java and place another finger there. Doesn't it seem like they are close to being exactly opposite of each other; is it possible they are connected?

Nobody knows, or saying, how deep the sinkhole has reached. As far as the buoy's are concerned it appears buoy 53046 has shown the most adjustment. It very well could be buoy errors, but some threads on this site have very compelling information that beg to differ.(see links below) Regardless, I've looked at historical data for that particular buoy and things started changing on 8/24/12. I went through the archives on the NOAA website back to April 2012 and they show an average water column height of 4612 meters from 4/1/12 to 8/24/12. Since 8/24/12 to today's date of 10/18/12 the water column has shrunk to 3919 meters. That's a 693 meter (2270 foot) difference! The part that really bothers me about the buoy's though, is that I have not found a decent explanation as to why there has not been a significant tsunami, because when you look at the time stamps of the buoy readings there are some pretty large adjustments in just a few minutes. I thought large sea floor adjustments that happened that quickly are exactly what cause tsunamis.

What are your thoughts?

interactive globe - [link to www.earthbrowser.com]

Threads with additional information:

Thread: Plate movement watch underway! Java buoy going wild.. again!
Thread: Don't make ASSUMPTIONS; try to Understand.
[link to www.ndbc.noaa.gov]
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Re: Sinkhole & Buoy's related????
Interesting
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it was fish.
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10/19/2012 01:03 AM
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it was fish.
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That's a helluva lot of fish! Snagged by a submarine or a blue whale sounds more plausible...
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what that could mean is creepy to visualize
think i'd rather be in the rising side
not the side getting sucked in
hiding
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what that could mean is creepy to visualize
think i'd rather be in the rising side
not the side getting sucked in
hiding
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12779781


Hadn't thought of that aspect...CERN...god particle...Black Hole? Earthquakes potentially caused by this or perhaps in spite of it, in attempts to halt the process?

Maybe I've just had too much to drink this evening. The above sounds even crazier then my initial statement!
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10/19/2012 01:29 AM
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Weird...how did this disappear from the list of threads for today? It was near the top on page 1 and a few minutes later I can't find it anywhere on the three pages from today.

hmmmm.....
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10/19/2012 01:30 AM
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Re: Sinkhole & Buoy's related????
OP, I think you need to read this thread and view the video that is posted there.

Thread: The buoys are dropping because the sea floor is rising - 2000 FT in 3 months!

BTW, your thread has already been mentioned in this other thread.
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10/19/2012 01:33 AM
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earth is going to look like a punched in, half deflated ball

anyone have the newer images of earth that show its odd shape?
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10/19/2012 01:35 AM
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Re: Sinkhole & Buoy's related????
OP, I think you need to read this thread and view the video that is posted there.

Thread: The buoys are dropping because the sea floor is rising - 2000 FT in 3 months!

BTW, your thread has already been mentioned in this other thread.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 919411


Thank you. I had seen this thread earlier today. The following threads have been circulating for sometime and there is a ton of information on them. Check them out if you have time.

Thread: Pole Shift, Crustal displacement evidence is here! Vast Plate movement sequence proved between Indonesia, Alaska and Americas (Page 7)
Thread: Plate movement watch underway! Java buoy going wild.. again!
Thread: Maine Earthquake is connected to Indonesia movement, proven! Evidence of Indonesia movement putting pressure on other regions and Buoy data also.
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nice OP 5 smile_kiss and pin
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earth is going to look like a punched in, half deflated ball

anyone have the newer images of earth that show its odd shape?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12779781


I'm not sure where to find images of Earth like that. It'd be great to have them though.
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nice OP 5 smile_kiss and pin
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Awesome...Thank You!
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earth is going to look like a punched in, half deflated ball

anyone have the newer images of earth that show its odd shape?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12779781


I'm not sure where to find images of Earth like that. It'd be great to have them though.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25567431


Accurate images that is. I am sure you can find something on different search engines but the "real" images, if they depicted a drastic change in the shape of our planet, would be photo shopped for sure.
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Last Edited by Sol Neman on 09/25/2013 02:51 AM
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Thread: We the People - A Storm is Brewing
Thread: Government should not be involved...
Thread: Plants & Animals dying en masse; Natural & man-made disasters; Strange events ~ Signs of the End?
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Last Edited by Sol Neman on 09/25/2013 02:51 AM
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Thread: We the People - A Storm is Brewing
Thread: Government should not be involved...
Thread: Plants & Animals dying en masse; Natural & man-made disasters; Strange events ~ Signs of the End?
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Re: Sinkhole & Buoy's related????
earth is going to look like a punched in, half deflated ball

anyone have the newer images of earth that show its odd shape?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12779781


Actually now that you mention this, I'll try to find it again online.
Saw some research satellite a few years back scanned the earth's entire surface's strength of it's gravity fields.

I had even emailed him asking why the field strength was greater at all the ring of fire fault lines.

In gravity surface strength the earth is a badly misshapen ball.
Your post made me think of the research on it when you said,"punched in, half deflated ball"

I have never put the two thoughts together until this moment.

Here it is:
[link to www.csr.utexas.edu]

Click on the Grace Gravity models link

You can also nose around more in the pub files directory by altering the link to:
ftp://ftp.csr.utexas.edu/pub/grace/Gravity_Images/


Perhaps there is a connection?

I was personally impressed how strong the gravity is below India, definitely punched in looking.
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10/19/2012 02:12 AM

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earth is going to look like a punched in, half deflated ball

anyone have the newer images of earth that show its odd shape?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12779781


Actually now that you mention this, I'll try to find it again online.
Saw some research satellite a few years back scanned the earth's entire surface's strength of it's gravity fields.

I had even emailed him asking why the field strength was greater at all the ring of fire fault lines.

In gravity surface strength the earth is a badly misshapen ball.
Your post made me think of the research on it when you said,"punched in, half deflated ball"

I have never put the two thoughts together until this moment.

Here it is:
[link to www.csr.utexas.edu]

Click on the Grace Gravity models link

You can also nose around more in the pub files directory by altering the link to:
ftp://ftp.csr.utexas.edu/pub/grace/Gravity_Images/


Perhaps there is a connection?

I was personally impressed how strong the gravity is below India, definitely punched in looking.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9231012


Interesting. Perhaps the the sea floor is dropping south of India? NOAA doesn't have any buoy's listed in the middle of the Indian ocean so I don't know how you could get that kind of information. If the sea floor is dropping, maybe the displaced "matter" is being pushed up the path of least resistance and that happens to be between Indonesia and Australia? That doesn't explain the sinkhole in LA though...could be that the Earth's core is rotating and it is pushing on certain areas and allowing other areas to drop since it is not a perfect sphere?

In other words a pole shift is happening and these are some of the effects...

*edit due to lack of proof-reading

Last Edited by Sol Neman on 10/19/2012 02:17 AM
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Re: Sinkhole & Buoy's related????
Good post, some very interesting points there!

The part that really bothers me about the buoy's though, is that I have not found a decent explanation as to why there has not been a significant tsunami, because when you look at the time stamps of the buoy readings there are some pretty large adjustments in just a few minutes. I thought large sea floor adjustments that happened that quickly are exactly what cause tsunamis.
 Quoting: Solneman 25567431


Not exactly: tsunamis occur when the ocean floor moves vertically very quickly. In this scale even a few seconds is rather a long time, not to mention several minutes. If my memory serves me right, even the quake causing the 2004 tsunami "only" moved the ocean floor few meters - but in fractions of a second.
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Good post, some very interesting points there!

The part that really bothers me about the buoy's though, is that I have not found a decent explanation as to why there has not been a significant tsunami, because when you look at the time stamps of the buoy readings there are some pretty large adjustments in just a few minutes. I thought large sea floor adjustments that happened that quickly are exactly what cause tsunamis.
 Quoting: Solneman 25567431


Not exactly: tsunamis occur when the ocean floor moves vertically very quickly. In this scale even a few seconds is rather a long time, not to mention several minutes. If my memory serves me right, even the quake causing the 2004 tsunami "only" moved the ocean floor few meters - but in fractions of a second.
 Quoting: NordicNeoShaman


Ok, that makes sense to a point, however we are talking about 2200 feet of adjustment in about 2 months. That would displace a huge amount of water. Even if it was a slow process the water still had to go somewhere...
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bump
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bump
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You are batshit crazy OP.
And anyone who sees your 'connection' is just as crazy.

crazy crazy crazy crazy
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Ok, that makes sense to a point, however we are talking about 2200 feet of adjustment in about 2 months. That would displace a huge amount of water. Even if it was a slow process the water still had to go somewhere...
 Quoting: Sol Neman


You're right, it's lots of water indeed which does have to go somewhere. Even for an educated mind, it's really difficult to have a clear picture of events of this size, especially when they have to do with elements such as liquids and volumes. It would be very very interesting if someone (perhaps here on GLP?) would have the necessary enthusiasm to do some actual calculations. It's not too complicated stuff and there seem to be many real experts around here. Even if theoretical, calculations based on real physics would help a lot in getting a picture of the potential consequences of, for example, the movements of the ocean floor which definitely do seem to be taking place.

As it happened, the first time ever I went to check details of any of the buoys from the noaa web page myself, picking a completely random one without seen any threads on GLP about sea floor adjustments or anything, the graph showed a steady and significant change in water level! It was something like 60 meters or so and somewhere near Alaska. I was amazed, especially since the level did not return to the same it had been, but the change that had taken place in just over a minute or so appeared to be permanent. There was a sign of a small "splash" either before or after the shift (can't remember which and unfortunately lost the screen shot I took) but other than that, it looked like the water level had suddenly changed - a lot!

There's so much weird stuff going on all over it's absolutely breathtaking! I'm not worried though - quite the opposite, I see all this as a clear interconnected sign of the fact that 2012 and reality changes are here. It's going to be quite a ride, but as before, we'll make through once again. And, this time the results are going to be very different. It's going to be an exciting trip there! Very important to take care of each other! <3
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You are batshit crazy OP.
And anyone who sees your 'connection' is just as crazy.

crazy crazy crazy crazy
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25809579


Actually, OP doesn't sound "crazy". His thread is measured, presents arguments and links. His though isn't conventional, but very interesting to dig.
And put the same smiley 4 times doesn't make you sound more persuasive.
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The diameter of the earth at the equator is 7,926.41 miles (12,756.32 kilometers).
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[link to rense.com]

Earth's center lies some 3,800 miles below our feet.

Continents and oceans make up only a thin crust that extends about 20 miles down. Below them lies a huge, 1,800-mile-thick layer known as the mantle. Slowly moving currents of rock in the mantle cause continents to drift and the edges of the ocean floors to sink into huge trenches. The mantle encloses a core 2,100 miles in radius, blistering hot and made mostly of iron. The outer core is liquid, the inner core is solid.
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A sinkhole couldnt affect something on the other side, Morans !
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Re: Sinkhole & Buoy's related????
Earlier I bumped this to read later as I was getting the kids ready for school so had no time to read it, I do not see how this buoy could have anything to do with the sinkhole, I could be wrong but it's just far to far away.
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Re: Sinkhole & Buoy's related????
the antipode is sooooooo close


my logic is if it's rising on one side



it's gonna drop on the other:)


yes i noticed the correlation


but

whatya goin do


be right in our hearts

tis all
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If this isn't a malfunctioning buoy(this does happen from time to time) I really don't see how this can be anything other than magmatic in origin. There are...what?....100 undersea volcano's for every one on land? More? The amount of size(elevation increase) is not inconsistant with other known underwater formations &, in the grand scheme of things, is not displacing all that much water, considering how much of it there is in the Worlds Oceans.
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No one has ever seen a perfect circle, nor a perfectly straight line, yet everyone knows what a circle and a straight line are.
Perceived circles or lines are not exactly circular or straight, and true circles and lines could never be detected since by definition they are sets of infinitely small points.
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the antipode is sooooooo close


my logic is if it's rising on one side



it's gonna drop on the other:)


yes i noticed the correlation


but

whatya goin do


be right in our heart is all
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[link to www.antipodemap.com]

Here's the antipode map. Put in the sinkhole location. I was not exact.

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