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BURK ELDER HALE: A CASE OF FRAUD IN NEW AGE PRODUCTS

 
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He offered water for donations. You buy the water?? Didn't think so. If you're not going to go after churches for accepting donations to keep the house of God open, than why the water guy?

Here it is: They have the freedom to believe and buy what they want.

You mad, bro?
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Wow!

In what kind of world do you live in ?

This guy is a seller and he has to send the water that consumers or distributors had paid for !

Do you go yourself to wallmart and pay to have nothing?
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Hum... in fact, BEH is the representation of the bad, dark face of America's spirit : Trick, spoil, con.

The bright side, the light face of America's spirit is helping people, does right things at the right time, thinks with affection to the others. But, BEH in not in this case, in this energy.
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Hum... in fact, BEH is the representation of the bad, dark face of America's spirit : Trick, spoil, con.

The bright side, the light face of America's spirit is helping people, does right things at the right time, thinks with affection to the others. But, BEH in not in this case, in this energy.



I agree with your point of view.
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Hum... in fact, BEH is the representation of the bad, dark face of America's spirit : Trick, spoil, con.

The bright side, the light face of America's spirit is helping people, does right things at the right time, thinks with affection to the others. But, BEH in not in this case, in this energy.
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I agree with your point of view.
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Instead of being in a low profile, Burk Elder Hale intentionnally chooses in his comments on squidoo below to lie again and again, and to show how irresponsible and stupid he is. His 'associates' still have time to end any contract with him while they still are able to do so, now that they are aware of the fraud, before it's too late for them.

Let's rephrase his gibberish in few points to sum up his views.

1) 'My BHI MFG, LLC agent mailing location for BHI MFG, LLC is at Georgia for contact information and verification.'

Good! I suggest Claus, Clarence and everyone being cheated to send a complain to the Federal Drug Administration to check whether or not there is a clandestine / illegal amateurish lab to produce bottles of bionaid, and other products at the home of Burk Elder Hale. Here is the contact you must have to do it (start with [link to ] and replace DOT with a point without space):

www DOT hhs.gov/about/regions/fdaser.html
FDA Southeast Regional/District Offices

SE Region, Atlanta (ATL-FO)
60 Eight Street NE
Atlanta, GA 30309
Phone: 404-253-1171
Fax: 404-253-1207


Southeast Regional Lab (SRL)
60 Eight Street NE
Atlanta, GA 30309
Phone: 404-253-1176
Fax: 404-253-1208

I suggest all the people concerned to report the B.E.H. fraud to (start with [link to (secure)] and replace DOT with a point without space)

oig DOT hhs.gov/fraud/hotline/

oig DOT hhs.gov/fraud/consumer-alerts/index.asp

oig DOT hhs.gov/fraud/enforcement/index.asp


Maybe some of the MOST IMPORTANT ONES (start with [link to (secure)] and replace DOT with a point without space):

oig DOT hhs.gov/fraud/medicaid-fraud-control-units-mfcu/index.asp

oig DOT hhs.gov/fraud/report-fraud/index.asp

oig DOT hhs.gov/fraud/state-false-claims-act-reviews/index.asp



Here is how to file a complain (start with [link to ] and replace DOT with a point without space):

www DOT hhs.gov/ocr/civilrights/complaints/index.html

'If you believe your health care provider conscience protection rights have been violated, you may file a complaint with OCR'. Here is an interesting link (start with [link to ] and replace DOT with a point without space):

www DOT hhs.gov/regulations/index.html

Link of interest about the regulations (start with [link to ] and replace DOT with a point without space):

www DOT fda.gov/RegulatoryInformation/Legislation/default.htm


OH, BY THE WAY, BURK ELDER HALE STATES THAT 'THE MANUFACTURING COMPANY PRODUCING PRODUCT' IS BHI MFG, LLC (so, BHI MFG, LLC, is not only an agent!!!!) HERE (start with [link to ] and replace DOT with a point without space):

www DOT trioxysilver.com/bionabout.htm

'BHI MFG LLC is the manufacturing company producing product under The Burk-Elder: Hale, Third. Bion-Plus-Bionaid-Trioxysilver-Professional, Burk-Elder: Hale, Third...'



2) 'The factory is elswhere and is information for professional inquiries only, not for those of your ilk.'

The regulations of FDA state that any product for health use should have different tracking information such as:

Number of series of a batch.
Expiring date of consumption.
Warnings and direction of use.
Ingredients and composition list.
Factory name / location.

NONE OF THESE MANDATORY INFORMATIONS EXIST ON BURK ELDER HALE PRODUCTS. So, the main users of the factory name / location IS the consumer! Not the professionnals, among them are the DISTRIBUTORS (Claus and Clarence for exemple), even if they don't have these informations either from B.E.H.. If they don't exist it is because the products are produced in his own kitchen / home as a witness certified.

As a matter of fact, someone already complained about the new product of B.E.H. (start with [link to ] and replace DOT with a point without space):

www DOT trioxysilver.com/bionabout.htm

Dr. Leonard Horowitz:

'To my knowledge Bionaid is no longer being manufactured by the original source of that product, and thus it is EXTREMELY DOUBTFUL it is a true nano-silver covalently bonded to oxygen product. It does not contain 528Hz, to my knowledge, and does not contain Breath of the Earth. Get 40% off by buying OxySilver (Editor's note - a tradename previously owned by Burk Hale, Incorporated) by the case. '

SO THIS CASE ISN'T NEW. I guess he wanted to say the new bionaid IS NOT a true nano-silver covalently bonded to oxygen product since it doesn't contain 528hz.. At the same link you can read:

'All equipment, production and bottling processes by BHI MFG LLC comply to FDA guidelines for food production and comply to ANSI Standard 173, Section 8 regarding dietary supplement production that are based on those guidelines'.

He clearly states that the equipments, the production and bottling processes ARE MADE BY BHI MFG, LLC! This company (BHI MFG LLC) is then the manufacturer, according to B.E.H.'s own words, LOUD AND CLEAR. Now, what about the guidelines (ANSI) included in the FDA guidelines?

Why doesn't Burk Elder Hale display his NSF certificate like this one? (start with [link to ] and replace DOT with a point without space):

www DOT newtrition DOT basf DOT com/pv_obj_cache/pv_obj_id_0182F296F879FCDB39CECDA1C064FBC55F​AB0100/filename/DSHEA_Brattvaag_norway.pdf

or this other one (start with [link to ] and replace DOT with a point without space):

www DOT shine-star.com.cn/images/nsf-gmp.pdf

Because he has none. How do I know it?

You would be interested by this link regarding the certificate he surely don't have (he would have displayed it otherwise) (start with [link to ] and replace DOT with a point without space):

www DOT nsf.org/business/gmp/index.asp

and this one where we can read (start with [link to ] and replace DOT with a point without space):

www DOT ihs.com/news/2008/nsf-update-dietary-supplement.htm


'NSF International updated the standard for dietary supplements to include good manufacturing practices (GMP) requirements to ensure consistency with the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) regulations. '

'The updated version of NSF/American National Standards Institute (ANSI) 173 - Dietary Supplements'
[ click here to get a copy of the said procedures (start with [link to ] and replace DOT with a point without space):
store DOT ihs.com/specsstore/controller?event=LINK_SEARCH&search_value=​nsf%20173&mid=w092
]
'contains revisions to Section 8 GMP requirements that reference the new FDA requirements for both dietary supplement GMPs as well as the Adverse Event Reporting (AER) requirements that went into effect in December 2007.'

'NSF/ANSI 173 is used to EVALUATE and ANALYSE dietary supplements TO ENSURE THEY DO NOT CONTAIN UNDECLARED INGREDIENTS OR UNACCEPTABLE LEVEL OF CONTAMINANTS SUCH AS pesticides and HEAVY METALS...'

'Businesses that ...employ fewer than 20 employees must be compliant by JUNE 25, 2010.'

'Companies being audited for GMP compliance under NSF/ANSI Standard 173 are also expected to meet the compliance dates set forth by the FDA.'

'These updates will also be incorporated into NSF's Dietary Supplement Certification Program, which is based on NSF/ANSI 173.'

'Certification ensures that dietary supplements are produced in accordance with GMPs and are certified free of harmful contaminants, said NSF International.'

'NSF/ANSI 173 provides criteria and evaluation methods to ensure that dietary supplement products contain the IDENTITY AND QUANTITY OF INGREDIENTS LISTED ON PRODUCT LABEL AND THAT THE PRODUCTS ARE FREE OF ANY UNDECLARED CONTAMINANTS.'


Since there is no identity nor quantity of ingredients listed on Bionaid bottles, as far as I know, Burk Elder Hale is OUTLAW. Since B.E.H. has no NSF/ANSI Certificate to show us, He is OUTLAW (since June 25, 2010). And HE IS A LIAR UNTIL PROVEN OTHERWISE.


YOU SHOULD DO SOMETHING NOW TO SUE HIM AS FAR HE IS NOT ABLE TO SHOW THIS CERTIFICATE FOR HIS OWN BOTTLES!!


3) 'I can also provide government references and reference from a retired Congressionman'.

The only government references and reference from a retired Congressionman are very old references, written A LONG TIME BEFORE BURK ELDER HALE'S BIONAID ACTIVITIES.

But on this website, he states (start with [link to ] and replace DOT with a point without space):

www DOT trioxysilver.com/index.htm

'Bionaid Trioxysilver Professional, Burk-Elder: Hale, Third and our manufacturing company has been recommended by an Honorable Representative (retired from the U.S. Congress and an expert in the field of silver hydrosol technology) on his official website as the best silver hydrosol in the world.'

You will not find such a recommandation. What website it is about? Why doesn't he show this so important and excellent recommandation? No one knows.


4) 'There is more than one manufacturing facility and some are overseas'.

A lot of gibberish, ZERO CERTIFIABLE FACTS.


5) 'We can see how desperate you are...'

He meant “how desperate I am now”.


6) 'Now I do not care to take the time to engage you because your agenda is frivolous and spurious at best.'


He does not care to take the time to engage anyone here because he would loose everything faster this way. The agenda is to expose him publicly, then through legal actions. If he doesn't engage anyone, it means 1) we have NOTHING to scare about him, and 2) he is sure to loose. NO associate, if any, would engage anyone for him (instead of him). So, we are free to continue.


7) 'However, my associates, who are not to be mistakenly perceived as weak or unprofessional, will not take kindly to your false remarks disparaging their state of the art manufacturing, and they may take legal action against you.'

NO ONE BUT HIM HAS BEEN EXPOSED! His associates, IF ANY, are unknown and therefore couldn't be moved by any of our critics upon HIM. But he says he won't 'sue' anyone because 'it takes time' (LOL). So be it. I'd rather say 'it takes money' (does he have any?) to prove nothing, but that he is a con man.


8) 'I will not reveal who they are to you so that you can start directly attacking them.'

He will not reveal who his associates are, IF ANY, because there are none that would be exposed like himself, except if they fully support him in his con, being aware of it. They could even sue him because they actually don't know his wrongdoings, do they? They surely trust him, and believe his lies. They could reject him if they learn who he really is: a fraud!

By the way, at one moment in the legal procedure against him, they will be known. Then two cases: 1) they sue him, or 2) they will be sued too. Much money to be taken from him and them in that case.


9) 'I will be contacting them, after doing a screen-shot of your comments so you can erase and reword things as you have been, thinking you can get away with that.'

I will certainly not withdraw any word of mine. But what is his point of doing screen-shots if he 'does not care to take the time to engage'? He doesn't have the balls to do anything because the shame and the joke are on HIM.


10) 'You rediculous posts on Godlikeproductions served to bring out commentary from others that have stood behind me.'

All the comments supporting him ('standing behing me', LOL) and Bionaid were FROM HIM. Except, maybe, someone saying that 4 years ago, BEFORE HIS NEW PRODUCT PRODUCED BY BHI MFG LLC, he appreciated Bionaid, when produced by someone else. The posts of Godlikeproductions served to expose him, and it works.


11) 'You are digging yourselves a very deep hole and your monetary penalties are soaring through the roof.'

What is his point if he 'does not care to take the time to engage'? He wants to scare someone here? None but HIM is exposed here and elsewhere. None but him would be able to sue anyone. But this is the way around that will come, exactly the contrary. He will be sued by Claus and Clarence, and probably others. He has already dug his hole with his long lasting misdeeds.


12) 'If my associates who are tied to highly placed dignitaries in many countries decide to fly you off like pesky mosquitos, consider yourself lucky, and if not, be assured that you will be in deeper trouble that you ever imagined.'

If his associates are intelligent they will make low profile like he should have made a long time ago. As a matter of fact, his only known associate, Franck Katabalwa in Africa, just changed his profile on FaceBook and chose to hide the public wall! The joke is on Burk Elder Hale ! He is just able to threaten people but it's just wishful thinking. He will live in jail soon.


13) 'I suggest that yout remove all your lies and your hoax about a scam off from the internet while you can.'

While his associates are actually hiding themselves, he tries to impress / threaten us in order to better lead us to remove our checkable critics. THAT TRICK WILL NOT WORK. PEOPLE WILL READ MORE AND MORE HOW MUCH A CONMAN HE IS. IN FACT, HE IS THE ONE WHO IS AFRAID OF THE TRUTH...and us.


14) 'And on top of that, the sites like squidoo, who stand to face libel actions for allowing your posts may also be taking legal action against you.'

On the contrary, sites like squidoo are happy to see how successful are these articles and comments. The only thing we are doing is exposing a real con man, with certifiable facts and webpages. Clarence and Claus have a written testimony against him from someone that is very easy to prove to have been very close to him and his deceitful method of bottles production.


15) 'You were told who the thief was that refused to ship your Bionaid in his possession - Bruce Curtis, persona non grata.'

When X orders something to Y, only Y is responsible for the product involved. No third party can be invoked. The responsibility goes to Y, not Z. So, Burk Elder Hale is the only responsible for the misdeed (no product sent nor refunding). NOTE THAT B.E.H. IMPLICITLY ADMITTED THAT IT WAS A BUSINESS TRANSACTION BETWEEN HIM AND CLAUS / CLARENCE / ETC., JUST HERE! NO DONATION! AT LEAST, he implicitly confessed it.


16) 'Again, if you had one shred of evidence proving that I kept you Bionaid instead of Bruce Curtis you would have provided that evidence and obtained a $1 million reward in gold.'

$1 million? What $1 million? Where is it? Again, we don't care where are the bottles Burk Elder Hale produces himself (that would explain why large quantities of bottles are never delivered). No evidence of anything such as a location of unproven produced bottles is required by the law by the victims. The only thing that counts for the ex-distributors is to be sent the right number of bottles or to be refunded. But since the production process is unclear, the charges against him are being heavier. Burk Elder Hale could have 1) sued Bruce Curtis, and/ or 2) requested a credit at his bank to refund his clients / distributors. Every other solution is just a conman misdeed.


17) 'But it is obvious that you have no such evidence as none exists, just evidence that Bruce Curtis kept your Bionaid and refused to ship it, a real scammer that is in hiding with your Bionaid.'

The victims of Burk Elder Hale's misdeeds don't have to prove anything. If one supplier is deficient in the process fo delivering products, the manufacturer / agent must comply with the contract, that should respect lawful compliances of the USA trade regulations, and make everything possible to satisfy the contract under decent time limit. In another hand, there exist exploitation / operations insurances to face such default events. A sound and honest businessman knows it perfectly. So, Burk Elder Hale, NO PLEAS ARE ACCEPTABLE.


18) '7,500 bottles were stolen by Bruce Curtis, some of that being yours an Clause's, but the most being mine. I paid for it, and it was to be shipped to you. I sent you email showing where Bruce Curtis admitted he would comply, thought he lied.'

AS FAR AS THERE IS NO EVIDENCE OF A FORMAL COMPLAIN AT THE COURT FROM BURK ELDER HALE AGAINST BRUCE CURTIS, this is just a falsified story. Whatever lawsuits against Bruce Curtis by B.E.H., this latter is still responsible for the trade contract between his company and his distributors / clients.

19) 'Your obsession with me and agenda to disparage me hs now encompassed very important and professional men that are my associates, and again, it would be in your best interest to cease with your hoax here, and all the libel you have committed.'

Before saying how important and professional men are his associates, Burk Elder Hale would better tell us who they are. Otherwise, it's just another bragging, just trying to threaten and scare people. It would work with kids and gullible people, not with real grounded men and women.


20) 'In closing, you violations of my terms of service and use are so extensive that you have exceeded the value of product Bruce Curtis was supposed to send to you.'

Since the Burk Elder Hale's terms of services and uses are illegal, nothing has being violated. The only thing that has been violated by him is the fairness of the natural trade contracts.


LAST MINUTE NOTICE:

Burk Elder Hale is changing his page of testimonials (actually 'coming soon') because he is afraid of the consequences of the former testimonials pages. I hope Claus and Clarence you made a copy / screen-shot of those former webpages (start with [link to ] and replace DOT with a point without space):

www DOT fractallifesolutions.com/testimonials/

At this link, you will have a good letter from a probate judge dating of 2003, WELL BEFORE BURK ELDER EVEN KNEW ANYTHING ABOUT THE SILVER WATER. At anytime this Judge support B.E.H. To make business with him (start with [link to ] and replace DOT with a point without space):

www DOT trioxysilver.com/judge.pdf

At this link (see bottom), B.E.H. Speaks about a former congressman (start with [link to ] and replace DOT with a point without space):

www DOT trioxysilver.com/bionproducts.htm

'You may request link information to a renowned and retired US Congressman's official website that recommends doing business with Elder.'

How is it possible to really trust someone hiding from public attention the official website of a US congressman who would recommend doing business with Burk Elder Hale?


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B.E.H.: Charges and crimes to be stopped with Bion aid.

Here are some new interesting, but not so surprising, developments in addition to the topic here:

Thread: BURK ELDER HALE: A CASE OF FRAUD IN NEW AGE PRODUCTS

B.E.H.: A CASE OF FRAUD IN NEW AGE PRODUCTS


Proof from B.E.H.'s own website testimonials that I was indeed an authorized distributor of Bion aid.

If you google search for the B.E.H's misdeeds, you find the same article on the site squi doo (in one word) that the OP of the first link pointed out, followed by a new article (the title is just above) regarding the proof that the Danish guy, Claus Nicolae Nielsen, was really a Bion aid distributor, then followed by the readers comments.

Among the comments are those of B.E.H. himself before Claus wrote this new article:


B.E.H. (17 OCT 2012):

These same people, on other sites linked here have claimed to be distributors of Bion aid, and that is another absolute lie.


Claus replied to him with this answer:


CLAUS NICOLAE NIELSEN (21 OCT 2012):


Let us see the proof B.E.H. please! And how that can justify cheating us for almost $15.000. I was indeed distributing Bion aid passionately, putting all my heart into it for several years, every night working.

Here are some of the articles (in Danish) about Bion aid that I distributed on the net, some going back to 2009. There is even proof from B.E.H.'s own website that I was a distributor! (first link below, until he removes it of course, but I still have a print screen though and LOTS of other proof), even bringing in some great testimonials through all my hard work.

I guess these were from the days where Dan Nelson's water was still in Bion aid. I have had customers later complaining that Bion aid no longer was the same as the last batch they got, and my wife told me the same. Imagine that this man wants to expose himself here as an outright liar...

Good Lord, what else can we trust from him these days then? "Say a little prayer for you", as Aretha Franklin sings. Yes, if you donate to him for the price of one bottle you may be lucky to receive one, if you order a case or several cases... I am not so sure... at least this is our experience, but I really dont think Bion aid is what is used to be anyway.

We made some tests as mentioned in the article above.

Now here are a few links proving that I have taken a lot of effort translating and writing articles about Bion aid, plus evidence of the company I once had called Bion aidDK. Why go to such efforts to pretend to be a distributor of Bion aid if I had no Bion aid to supply the customers with anyway?! Really doesnt make too much sense does it?

No more proof needed to show that B.E.H. (these days around at least) is a liar, sadly as it is. A very unkind man as well I would say. Even if I accepted that my payment was a donation - which there was no mentioning of in our emails where the amount to be paid was calculated bottle by bottle - he surely should supply me with his promised "gift" in return of $5000 sent (this I can proove of course).

But I did not see even a single bottle coming my way, not even when my child was ill and I asked him for just a few bottles. I think B.E.H. went through some tough disappointing times that turned him this way around, but who knows, maybe his disease just got worse and worse. I think you try to do a lot of good B.E.H., but why screew us like this then?

[link to www.Bion] aid.us/kirsten.pdf (screenshot at the bottom of the article above)

[link to www.anmark-selskaber.com] aiddk-v-claus-nicolae-nielsen-aop4/

[link to www.alternativ.info]

[link to www.selvet.dk]

sites.google.com/site/sundhedskonsulenten/colloidalsilver1



Or simply google 'Claus Nicolae Nielsen Bion aid'. There is quite a lot there dating back many years...

Scan of bank statements to B.E.H. can follow as well if needed. Ask for them B.E.H.! :-)

Good luck B.E.H.. Regain your dignity please.



So, Claus states four things, thanks to very important links mentionned above in his comment:

1) He really was a Bion aid distributor in Denmark with proof of it. So, B.E.H. is an outright liar.

2) B.E.H. cheated him in receiving a lot of money from him without sending him back the Bion aid bottles corresponding to the price, pretending it was a donation according to the NEW terms of agreement.

3) B.E.H. has no heart. Just a greedy and evil mind. Even when his Danish distributor and dude needs some Bion aid bottles for his own illed son, he did nothing.

4) The content of the NEW Bion aid bottles has changed and it is no more efficient as it used to be with the Dan Nelson's formula.


Claus then continues with a very good news (he is going to sue B.E.H.):


CLAUS NICOLAE NIELSEN (23 OCT 2012):


I guess it is convenient for B.E.H. to claim that I never was a Bion aid distributor, as he indeed dares in his comments below, as he cheated me of $5000 with his suddenly appearing and very questionable "donation" disclaimer, when we had always been doing our business dealings straight up, counted and paid bottle by bottle.

If I had never been a distributor, and the main one even.... really, why does he then have around 20 testimonials about Bion aid from me on his website? LOL. Sorry B.E.H., but you are really not making it easier on yourself. This is also verifiable and documented on the Godlikeproductions forum in the thread B.E.H.: A CASE OF FRAUD IN NEW AGE PRODUCTS in case he removes them.


Why is he trying to cover that up, even proving himself a liar, if he knows that he has the law on his side in regards to me violating his terms so I was not entitled to a single bottle from the $5000 "donated"? Which are the terms I violated so badly - and by doing what - that made Santa so angry that he felt I did not deserve any of my free gifts? Not even a few bottles for my ill son by request? B.E.H., please prove to the forum here what I did that pissed off Santa so much that made me not deserve my Christmas-payed-by-myself-in-advance-for-presents from the man of generosity himself?

Yes, I saw that B.E.H. at one point put up 'donation' buttons on his site for customers - instead of the 'buy' buttons he used before - now promising free gifts in return - hopefully...

But for me having been a distributor for Europe for years, I was never announced that my bank transfer to buy and DISTRIBUTE his Bion aid suddenly had transformed from being a business transaction into a quite generous DONATION
from me! After all, this was my main business to sustain my life and family! Makes a lot a sense right? Fairness par excellence! :-(


I will indeed sue him - as somebody also suggested on Godlikeproduktions - as soon as I am able to follow up on it in case these blogs we put up recently do not fulfill their purpose of tickling the inner Santa out of him. Sadly, these $15k that he cheated us for is not taken from generous donating millionaire's accounts... but business partners - maybe not millionaires... and it hurts.

But hey, good news are here! B.E.H. now declares below to give us $1.000.000 on top!! In gold I guess! Bro, please give us that on a legal paper huh? Just for you to not stand out as a complete idiot flashing gold bars in reward on a Squidoo blog.. And I will scan them in here. I promise! ;-) Hey, or I just bring my laptop to court and showcase your generous offer here right? Easy words, easy. But it could potentially become a very Golden Christmas for Clarence and I coming up right? ;-)



Remember that B.E.H. himself, through different pseudos on GLP, claimed to be a SOUND AND HONEST BUSINESSMAN. If it was really the case, even this single mention of being a businessman clearly shows that he makes business, NOT RUNNING A CHARITY ASSOCIATION!!!!!

He is then really a liar and a con man.

By doing a research, we find that the brand name Bion aid belongs to him.

[link to www.trademarkia.com] aid-85466415.html

Since OCT 6th, 2012, this trade mark seems to be available again. You should properly investigate through a lawyer to be sure.

At one point in time, B.E.H. should have had a dispute with Dan Nelson and the previous manufacturer, the real inventor of the original Bion aid formula, for (your choice):

1) those weird marketing B.E.H.aviors (donations instead of mere purchases), maybe to avoid to pay royalties,

2) the outright lying arguments of healing effects and biased “research testimonies” (without the bad claims of ide effects) of Bion aid and, at last, for

3) divergent financial reasons (regarding the royalties for exemple).


That is maybe / surely why B.E.H. changed the original Bion aid formula he used to sell under Bion aid name (now a new completely different product) which belongs to Dan Nelson's work. In other terms, there is another fraud when using the same name (Bion aid) for two very different products.

Look at the proofs now.

On the following page,

[link to www.trio] xy silver.com/bionresearch.htm

B.E.H. clearly mentions results from researches (he didn't pay for) BEFORE the “enhanced” new water to “better” sell his completely DIFFERENT PRODUCT AND MANUFACTURER! Here are his OWN STATEMENTS AND WORDS:


In our years of following the testing Covalent Bonded Silver-Oxygen Hydrosols we have noted amazing results with university and human clinical studies. As part of our Range Guide Ezine Research Section, the studies posted below, except for those regardiong Bion aid™, were performed by associates of our previous manufacturers on products we have advanced further with our new manufacturering associates working for BHI MFG, LLC in 2009 A.D, thus we are conducting new studies and related research to confirm their validity.

The sturdies below are experimentaal research and experimental observations, not claims of BHI MFG, LLC or B.E.H.-B.E.H.: Hale, Third. All information on our websites are for experimental research and providing experimental observations that include experimental observations provided as anecdotal testimonials from users of Bion aid™. Please remember that our $10 million reward in gold that was never claimed for four years speaks to the superior safety and efficacy of Bion aid™.

DID YOU READ IT? He wrongly uses past studies, DONE WELL BEFORE HE EVEN KNEW THEM (see the research / clinical studies samples of the years 88, 95, 96, 99, 03, 09), even saying “WE have noted amazing results”
as if he was part of the studies when speaking of the Range Guide Ezine Research Section (he wasn't even aware of the formula at its study time), to make believe that the new formula is directly the enhancement of the previous formula belonging to Dan Nelson.

It is as if it was a new version (trio xy silver professionnal) of the previous Covalent Bonded Silver-Oxygen Hydrosols (the one of NASA / Dan Nelson technology). Note that the NASA just made a super-purified water through its technology, NOT ANY HEALING WATER!!!

But THIS NEW VERSION IS STILL UNDER STUDY, AND UNDER Bion aid THE TRADE MARK, according to his own words (he'd better write this if he doesn't want law enforcement problems, he will have whatever), the very same trade mark of the actual bottles he “offers generously vs expensive donations”.

In others words, we don't have ANY scientific and specific results for the consuming of this new, specific and different formula. That's why THE USER OF Bion aid IS AT RISK. EVERYTHING IS EXPERIMENTAL, LIKE FOR GUINEA PIGS. Except that the guinea pigs pay large amounts of money to be tested by B.E.H..

At least, the old formula was safier with proved results. At least, the guinea pigs were paid to be tested. Now, the new formula of his is a VERY DANGEROUS NO MAN'S LAND.

But, since it's not enough to take people / readers as idiots, he adds that these experimental results of the former formula are NOT CLAIMS OF BHI MFG, LLC or B.E.H.-B.E.H.: Hale, Third, i.e. actual Bion aid products, brand owner and manufacturer. He writes exactly the opposite few lines above.

So, WHY DOES HE SHOW THE EXPERIMENTAL RESEARCH RESULTS, AND SPEAK ABOUT THEM IN THE FIRST PART OF HIS BLABLABLA, TO MAKE BELIEVE THAT THE ENHANCED FORMULA IS EVEN BETTER? EVEN BETTER TO WHAT, SINCE NO CONNECTION WITH THE COVALENT BONDED SILVER-OXYGEN HYDROSOLS IS SUPPOSED TO BE DONE?

We seem to be really assholes since he asks us to, please, remember that his $10 million reward in gold that was never claimed for four years speaks to the superior safety and efficacy of Bion aid™. We are in 2012. He then offered 10 millions dollars in 2009 (where? Since we discover together the $ 1,000,000 in gold reward press release in this thread) to challenge his new formula when it didn't even exist on the maket and in any user body since no research had begun at that time! A VERY DANGEROUS GUY INDEED!

NOW IT'S 10 MILLIONS DOLLARS IN GOLD, TEN TIMES THE REWARD WE KNEW UNTIL NOW. BUT HOW TO CLAIM ANYTHING WHEN WE DON'T KNOW WHAT IS TO BE PROVED? Superior safety and efficacy of Bion aid against something which is just under experiment when the experiment could last tens of years still? What “safety” and “efficacy” mean? In what field? In what cases?

You will never know because the more B.E.H. would precise something to be challenged, the more you can challenge it. You will always receive an answer from B.E.H. saying that the cases you would provide to challenge him wasn't what was expected to be proved. The challenge is too much blurred to ever win anything.

In fact, the challenge is just null, and then a fraud. In absence of definitions of what is to be challenged, there is no challenge at all! PERIOD.

It is as if I offer you 10 millions dollars to prove me that God doesn't exist. Until the result of this study emerge, that will never occur, I “keep” my 10 millions dollars that never existed first hand. And then you are the idiots to believe or to challenge me.

That's how and where B.E.H. lets everyone of us as mere idiots and assholes. A lot of air for just an empty bottle of facts. In few words, HE IS A CON MAN.

But you can always order his products here:

[link to www.fractallifesolutions.com]

For exemple
Purchase* Bion aid trio xy silver Pro bottles
24 bottles of 8oz for $760!!!!!!

What did I read? ORDER / PRODUCTS / PURCHASE? Oh, my goodness, then CLAUS NICOLAE NIELSEN is right to sue B.E.H.. He didn't receive the bottles he ordered months ago!!!

In this other new website serving as a commercial mean to sell Bion aid and other so-called healing products, he dares to CLAIM how better (sorry, THE BEST) is his Bion aid trio xy silver pro water. He even sends the reader to a page of "scientific articles". The first article presentation clearly mentions:

The use of silver nanoparticles has become more widespread in our society. While many believe that silver can be extremely useful in clinical medicine, FIRM EVIDENCE IS STILL LACKING. Thus, we present here a review of their current use in clinical medicine.


B.E.H. mixes many things: nano-particles in industry vs nano-particles in medecine; clinical medecine vs casual treatment; proved results vs no proved evidence.

BUT HE DARES TO LOUDLY CLAIM on the studies page:

Interviews by Bion aid trio xy silver Professional inventor B.E.H., Third, with the man B.E.H.ind the science of hydrating water contained within Bion aid trio xy silver Professional, astrophysicist Dr. Dan Nelson.


See how he gets Bion aid trio xy silver Professional close to astrophysicist Dr. Dan Nelson?

He lets you believe that Dan Nelson is ok with his "own" invention. WHAT? The actual Bion aid is the B.E.H.'s invention? Has he any diploma in science, or even in any other science in the world? NOT AT ALL.

IF DAN NELSON IS A REAL PHYSICIST, B.E.H. HAS NO DIPLOMA AT ALL, NOT EVEN A SCIENTIFIC CULTURE!


HELP PLEASE, STOP HIM IMMEDIATLY.


There is a Bion aid™ trio xy silver™ Professional Bioavailability Comparison Test in which this dangerous mixed statement is written:

If a particle of silver is bioactive it will crystallize when it comes into contact with certain minerals such as sodium. A lab will only tell you what the PPM is and will not show you its bioavailability, i.e., the ability of the particle to interact with pathogens or, in the case of our test, other minerals.


So, the superiority of Bion aid over ALL OTHER SILVER PRODUCTS should be on its bioavailibility, its ability to interact and crystallize when in contact with other minerals. But in the middle of this explanation come the pathogenes which are supposed to be eliminated, the core reason for which you would buy some Bion aid bottles.

BUT WHAT? THE TESTS DON'T REGARD PATHOGENES AT ALL!

ALL HIS PRODUCTS ARE PURE BULLSHIT, GUYS!



I just saw that the manufacturer (or associates with) BHI MFG, LLC, of the new (since 2009) Bion aid trio xy silver Professionnal, having replaced the true original Bion aid formula of Dan Nelson, a real physicist, since 2009, is none but B.E.H. HIMSELF:

[link to www.lookupbook.com]

At this link, it is said that the corporation BHI MFG, LLC, is located:

BHI MFG LLC

702 WOODGATE ROAD,
RINGGOLD, GA 30736
CONTACT: B.E.H.-B.E.H. III
POSTED: 09/2009
SOURCE: Georgia Secty of State

WHAAAT?

This address is his own private physical address! We can then believe that he produces, with his own means (because a real manufacturer would not produce his very few number of bottles), the so “amazing” Bion aid trio xy silver professional water! Does he pump the city water to mix it with a magical powder? What we can say is that no real manufacturer would produce a so little number of bottles. We can expect that B.E.H. just buy empty bootles and fills with his mixture and close them with a kit.

ALERT, ALERT! COPY / PASTE ALL THE PAGES OF HIS WEBSITES FOR THE COURT SERVING AS PROOFS! THE KEYWORDS OF HIS WEB PAGES (websites and other social networks such as facebook) ARE:

Bion aid
Zeoheal
Fractalsolutions
B.E.H.
Range Guide
Zaya
Miracle 11

etc.

Well, to sum up the situation that could help Claus (Denmark), Rodney (UK), Clarence (Asia) and others who could follow them:

1) B.E.H. claims to heal (and kill) many bacterial infections, virus and germs with his own Bion aid water on his own websites, and on Godlikeproductions forum (topic called B.E.H.: a Case of Fraud in New Age Products) through different pseudonymous.

2) B.E.H. didn't send bottles purchased after having received a lot of money for them, from numerous distributors / consumers.

3) B.E.H. claims that some former Bion aid distributors never were distributors, once they complain for his misdeeds.

4) B.E.H. did threat Claus Nicolae Nielsen on Godlikeproductions forum (topic called B.E.H.: a Case of Fraud in New Age Products) through different pseudonymous, thanks to a Norvegian biker he would ask for beating Claus up.

5) B.E.H. claims to be the inventor of Bion aid trio xy silver professional formula (AgO3) without any officially approved scientific and/or technical skills to do it.

6) B.E.H. is the main and only officially claimed director of BHI MFG, LLC, anounced manufacturer (associates with) of the Bion aid trio xy silver professional water. The address of this company is his own private and physical address. There is no water production address where to officially check the production procedures.

7) B.E.H. uses the same name of Bion aid that he owns, for two different products. He was not the inventor, nor the manufacturer, of the former product under the name of Bion aid.

8) B.E.H. never officially noticed his well known foreign distributors about any major change in the product nor the commercial agreement (donations instead of purchases).

9) B.E.H. wrongly used the names and prestige of previous inventors / manufacturers / medical institutions, and their works and papers, to sell his own self-invented products, while claiming his product is better than the other silver waters.

10) B.E.H. can not produce any proof that his water is better, even the best, than the other silver products.

11) B.E.H., as a public demonstration of his water superiority, offers rewards ($ 1,000,000.00 in gold, then $ 10,000,000.00) that is impossible to win for the challenge linked with them are not correctly defined.

12) B.E.H. claims to have scientific studies to prove the safety and efficacy of his water when they are none. He only bases this claim on one study that is still lacking of evidence.

13) B.E.H. claims that tests have been conducted in order to prove the healing effects of his water on pathogenes when the tests were made and focused on minerals. Never on pathogenes.

14) B.E.H. claims to have thousands, sometimes 100,000's of thousands, of testimonies that he can not prove to exist.

15) B.E.H. creates many websites, letting believe that they are not merely his, to self praising himself and his products (in fact, there are soooo many).

ALL OF THESE FACTS CAN BE SEEN AS FRAUDS, SWINDLES, ROBBERY, CON TRICKS, DECEPTIONS, RACKETS OR SCAMS.



ADDENDUM:

16) B.E.H. never proved to have $ 1,000,000.00 in gold, or $ 10,000,000.00, to reward those who would be able to challenge his claims, rewards which push potential consumers to believe him on this facing values.

17) B.E.H. forces people to never sue him through his agreement and terms of services once the user / consumer click on the “I agree” button to see the Bion aid testimonies on his websites (Bion aid), the only way to check the opinions of other users, should any medical side effect or commercial dispute with him or his agents occur. He is then against the law since the announced “testimonials” are suddenly “research testimonials” on the said page, i.e. mere experiments on users. In other words, if consumers just trust B.E.H. without checking the testimonials (then becoming research testimonials), they don't know it is about a medical experiment which is presented as an unspeakable blurred benefit product having nothing to do with remedy, treatment or drug. His products are for a better health, even for killing or fighting germs, virus, bacteria and other infections, but are not intented for that. Any improving health should then be interpreted as totally and completely coincidental. It is a pure double language. JUST CAREFULLY CHOSEN WORDS. But the facts in his postures are the opposite.

18) B.E.H. states that his products are consumed as an experimental test with its clients / consumers since there is no real firm proof of their healing safety and efficacy. It is then even possible that his products are dangerous, even very dangerous, on short or long term for the consumers, particularly due to the absence of production procedures checking. NO REAL CAUTION MEASURE IS PRESENTED AND FOLLOWED BY B.E.H. FOR THE PEOPLE SAFETY. IT IS SURELY THE MOST SERIOUS CHARGE AGAINST HIM.

EACH CHARGE AGAINST B.E.H. REPRESENTS A MINIMUM LEGAL FEE AND PRISON TIME FOR HIM. THE MORE YOU PUT CHARGES IN US, THE MORE HE WILL PAY FOR HIS CRIMES THAT CONTINUE EVERYDAY.



HERE IS THE PROOF THAT B.E.H. IS SUGGESTING TO HEAL MEDICAL PROBLEMS (FEELING ILL) WITH THE USE OF Bion aid trio xy silver PRO:

[link to www.Bion] aid.eu/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&catid=44%3At​ri-oxysilver-text&id=101%3Afaq-1-what-is-the-suggested-use-fo​r-Bion aid-tri-oxysilver&Itemid=91

What is the suggested use for Bion aid Tri-Oxysilver?

Take one teaspoon once or twice daily or mix 4oz (half of a bottle) in 1 gal of pure, natural drinking water and drink 2oz to 8oz per day - a general, daily maintenance supplementation. If you are feeling ill suddenly, double or triple this amount. If you are feeling severely ill suddenly or poisoned by a vaccine, consume up to an entire bottle immediately, undiluted, and drink at least 24 ounces of pure, natural water to flush out the toxins soon afterwards. If you have had a long-term illness, start out with the general, daily maintenance supplementation and double the supplementation every three days, depending on how you are able to tolerate the detox symptoms, until you are taking the product every two hours during the day until the symptoms are gone. See a doctor for any medical concerns.

FEELING ILL IS A MEDICAL CONCERN! NOTHING LESS. HOW A PATIENT CAN MAKE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN BEING REALLY SICK OR JUST NOT-SICK BUT NOT-WELL? JUST A DOCTOR CAN SAY THAT.

But here is a legal disclaimer that very clearly show how sure is B.E.H. about his product:

[link to www.swooshequities.com] aid-sydney/main.html

Legal Disclaimer:

(1) You accept all risks and responsibility for losses, damages, costs and other consequences resulting directly or indirectly from using this site and any information or material available from it.

(2) You accept all risks and responsibility for losses, damages, costs and other consequences resulting directly or indirectly from the purchase, use and consumption of goods supplied by this website.

(3) Any disclaimers, legal notices and cautionary warnings found in www dot Bion aid.com and www dot Bion aid.net websites are also applicable to this site.


AT THE LINK BELOW IS PRESENTED PHOENIX VOYAGE, THE NEW OFFICIAL DISTRIBUTOR:

[link to www.Bion] aid.us/phoenixrising.htm

B.E.H., with his manufactutrers, donated several hundred bottles of product to Uganda for clinical trials earlier in 2008.

Note: UPCOSH/Bion aid™, branded under another name for African distribution last year, is exclusively distributed to Uganda by Phoenix Voyage and their associates. B.E.H.'s previous formulation and product, formerly called by another name (OXS), was the product donated to Uganda for clinical testing in 2008.


SEE PHEONIX VOYAGE DISTRIBUTOR:
[link to pvhi.info]

We just see a commercial banner for Bion aid which directly sends you to B.E.H. website. In other words, there is NO DISTRIBUTION PARTNER. That's how he presents the OFFICIAL DISTRIBUTOR...THIS IS AGAIN A LIE!

...WITH THE HELP OF ZAYA:

[link to www.zaya.tv]

Note that Zaya dot tv IS ANOTHER B.E.H.'S WEBSITE!!!!


I do hope someone will stop him in USA.

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Thanks for this good research and good job ! Don't buy this kind of product without any proof of safety test.
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From Claus Nicolae Nielsen on Apsense :
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Here comes PROOF that Elder admitted he owed me, but did not ship anything to me yet EVEN HE HAD STOCK! From Gmail chat 24. Jan. 2012, yet I payed him end of Nov. 2011 and some even in the spring of 2011. He kept promising, and came with all his stories, and I waited and waited, my ill customers waited and waited, but nothing ever came.

Go to 22.50 for evidence that Burk Elder Hale owed me stock to keep my business going.

And 22.54 for evidence that he had stock of Bionaid, but I should not assume anything about myself! WTF! Now, is that arrogance? Not only, it is illegit business as well.

And remember at this time I had paid him $5000 all in all and had not seen a single product for around 9 months.

Or just enjoy his tone and remarks on the way there!
Elder Hale elder777@gmail.com

24. jan.


til mig (to me)

22.13 mig: I hope you make a lot of new business with the money you have stolen from me!


22.43 Elder: Trying to get at equally impotent comment back from me Claus, or are you just wanting to attempt to ruin my day by projecting more of the same ELF everyone is getting dosed with? You'll get neither.
I wrote your and others several weeks ago that I was doing something special for those friends that have stood by me for a long time - lost patience?

22.44 mig: Didnt get anything from you Elder
Elder: Care to elaborate on that vague remark?

22.45 mig: Didnt get the email you are talking about

22.46 ???
I have searched back to middle of Dec now and nothing...

22.47 Elder: Well it was sent BCC to my close circle of friends. I sopke about V3 and the projects going on now. And I mae it a point to state that my friends that have stood by me, expecting they would know who they are, would be getting something special from me.
mig: The last mail I have from you was a reply to my "status" mail of the 16. Dec

22.48 Elder: No need to be in low-spin-state Claus. Fight it.
mig: Well, seems I am not ur close circle of friends then...

22.49 I am just chilling after a long work day
and I am upset as well of course
Elder: What is going on with you - totaloly not chilling with me.
totally

22.50 mig: so did you send this mail to me?
Elder: money, right? you are having a tough time, and you are venting.
Yes, it went to you, Clarence and several others
.
22.51 mig: pretty tough with a window open that our appartment may have to go on auction yes..
Elder: My associate Robert is in Fiji right now, back on Thursday.
mig: what date was that?

22.52 Ass in?
Ultamex?
Elder: Don't have time to do email searches like I have to prove something. I sent it - take my word for it or not.
mig: no pun intended...
more that 2 month ago then ok

22.53 Elder: Not Ulamex.
mig: v3
Elder: I have, through Robert and V3, some serious investors moving on Bionaid and Micarox. Robert has been a great guy - not a Bruce Curtis.
mig: let me look, but I may have expected an update since.

22.54 Elder: Be beck momentarily - got to hand off some boxes for shipping.

22.56 mig: shipping???
I am back to 1. Nov now and dont see any mails from you...

22.57 Ok, thought you didnt have any Bionaid or I guess I have a few coming my way...

23.00 Elder: Yes, shipping. No need to assume anything about yourself. If you can keep a lid on the attitude I still want to work with you and do something very special for you when the money comes in,

23.01 I want to set you up in biz with V3mig: ok, cool, does it take big investment from my side

23.02 its MLM or how?
23.03 so v3 is the hydrogen water, nothing to do with Bionaid right?

23.06 Elder: Mut you assume?
Must you assume, typos today..sorry
mig: pardon me, but I am back to the 1. Oct now. I have heard about v3 from you, but that is looong time ago and no update.
???

23.07 I am asking a few questions???
Elder: [link to www.TheRiverBank.Us]
mig: Who is cross here?
Yes, I have seen that one
Elder: There's an answer to help prevent the endless questions filled with assumptions.

23.09 You started off with a very impotent remark and you ask me who is cross..LOL...c'mon Claus... :)

23.10 mig: so you wanna answer my questions or how?
Elder: How long has it been since you seen that website?
mig: TheRiverBank?
Elder: Aye.

23.11 mig: not sure, some months perhaps
Elder: It states what I am planning to do, but it does not go into details about my special projects I have in mind for those like you.


Great if he had 'special plans' for me/us, just a pity I/we never received them on email as he claims, even more a pity that he let me and my ill customers wait and wait while he invested my/our money without my/our prior consent in V3 (that failed). That is not legit business. So in the end NOTHING came my way.
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From Claus Nicolae Nielsen on Apsense :
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Here comes PROOF that Elder admitted he owed me, but did not ship anything to me yet EVEN HE HAD STOCK! From Gmail chat 24. Jan. 2012, yet I payed him end of Nov. 2011 and some even in the spring of 2011. He kept promising, and came with all his stories, and I waited and waited, my ill customers waited and waited, but nothing ever came.

Go to 22.50 for evidence that Burk Elder Hale owed me stock to keep my business going.

And 22.54 for evidence that he had stock of Bionaid, but I should not assume anything about myself! WTF! Now, is that arrogance? Not only, it is illegit business as well.

And remember at this time I had paid him $5000 all in all and had not seen a single product for around 9 months.

Or just enjoy his tone and remarks on the way there!
Elder Hale elder777@gmail.com

24. jan.


til mig (to me)

22.13 mig: I hope you make a lot of new business with the money you have stolen from me!


22.43 Elder: Trying to get at equally impotent comment back from me Claus, or are you just wanting to attempt to ruin my day by projecting more of the same ELF everyone is getting dosed with? You'll get neither.
I wrote your and others several weeks ago that I was doing something special for those friends that have stood by me for a long time - lost patience?

22.44 mig: Didnt get anything from you Elder
Elder: Care to elaborate on that vague remark?

22.45 mig: Didnt get the email you are talking about

22.46 ???
I have searched back to middle of Dec now and nothing...

22.47 Elder: Well it was sent BCC to my close circle of friends. I sopke about V3 and the projects going on now. And I mae it a point to state that my friends that have stood by me, expecting they would know who they are, would be getting something special from me.
mig: The last mail I have from you was a reply to my "status" mail of the 16. Dec

22.48 Elder: No need to be in low-spin-state Claus. Fight it.
mig: Well, seems I am not ur close circle of friends then...

22.49 I am just chilling after a long work day
and I am upset as well of course
Elder: What is going on with you - totaloly not chilling with me.
totally

22.50 mig: so did you send this mail to me?
Elder: money, right? you are having a tough time, and you are venting.
Yes, it went to you, Clarence and several others
.
22.51 mig: pretty tough with a window open that our appartment may have to go on auction yes..
Elder: My associate Robert is in Fiji right now, back on Thursday.
mig: what date was that?

22.52 Ass in?
Ultamex?
Elder: Don't have time to do email searches like I have to prove something. I sent it - take my word for it or not.
mig: no pun intended...
more that 2 month ago then ok

22.53 Elder: Not Ulamex.
mig: v3
Elder: I have, through Robert and V3, some serious investors moving on Bionaid and Micarox. Robert has been a great guy - not a Bruce Curtis.
mig: let me look, but I may have expected an update since.

22.54 Elder: Be beck momentarily - got to hand off some boxes for shipping.

22.56 mig: shipping???
I am back to 1. Nov now and dont see any mails from you...

22.57 Ok, thought you didnt have any Bionaid or I guess I have a few coming my way...

23.00 Elder: Yes, shipping. No need to assume anything about yourself. If you can keep a lid on the attitude I still want to work with you and do something very special for you when the money comes in,

23.01 I want to set you up in biz with V3mig: ok, cool, does it take big investment from my side

23.02 its MLM or how?
23.03 so v3 is the hydrogen water, nothing to do with Bionaid right?

23.06 Elder: Mut you assume?
Must you assume, typos today..sorry
mig: pardon me, but I am back to the 1. Oct now. I have heard about v3 from you, but that is looong time ago and no update.
???

23.07 I am asking a few questions???
Elder: [link to www.TheRiverBank.Us]
mig: Who is cross here?
Yes, I have seen that one
Elder: There's an answer to help prevent the endless questions filled with assumptions.

23.09 You started off with a very impotent remark and you ask me who is cross..LOL...c'mon Claus... :)

23.10 mig: so you wanna answer my questions or how?
Elder: How long has it been since you seen that website?
mig: TheRiverBank?
Elder: Aye.

23.11 mig: not sure, some months perhaps
Elder: It states what I am planning to do, but it does not go into details about my special projects I have in mind for those like you.


Great if he had 'special plans' for me/us, just a pity I/we never received them on email as he claims, even more a pity that he let me and my ill customers wait and wait while he invested my/our money without my/our prior consent in V3 (that failed). That is not legit business. So in the end NOTHING came my way.

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Sorry for Claus to be in affair with a Liar. Seems not easy at all to make business with this Burl Elder Hale.
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Yes !

It is not easy to trade with a man who claims to be a king of a city which does not exist.
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On Ap sense Burk wrote :


"BTW, its a great day and donations are rolling in from supporters that no you are making up this hoax scam. One fellow, in show of support against you, donated and will be gifted 4 28-count cases of Bionaid (They, like thousands of others, love Bion aid) in gratitude for his $2,800.00 donation!
Nov 14th 2012 10:33"

So, were are these thousands of others consurmers who loved Bio naid, not here and not on internet so far !

A mystery donator gived $2,800.00 donation and will be gifted of 4 28-count cases of Bionaid.
So, why Claus Nicolae Nielsen of Denmark who is the European distributor of Bionaid, Rodney of England who is the U.K. distributor of Bionaid, and Clarence Lee, the Asian distributor of Bionaid didn't received the bottles they had paid for ?
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I bet that Burk prefers to keep the water for him, and not send it to whom they own it. Sad guy.

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I doubt it. Elder lives on V.A. disability in his widowed Mom's home outside Chattanooga in Ringold, GA. Likely the water now in the bottles is right from their tap and then they stick the labels on. If the water is so fabulous why is Elder so disabled drawing his check? It didn't work for him or his Mom.They seem to have Alzheimers or something as it is not like being in contact with any normal business.I do recall Elder barking about Len Horowitz buying his Bionaid and was just his own water from his place in Hawaii in the bottles.Len was cutting him out of buying the water from him or so he claimed at the time even here on GLP. It appears Elder was doing the same thing or took up the practice.
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I doubt it. Elder lives on V.A. disability in his widowed Mom's home outside Chattanooga in Ringold, GA. Likely the water now in the bottles is right from their tap and then they stick the labels on. If the water is so fabulous why is Elder so disabled drawing his check? It didn't work for him or his Mom.They seem to have Alzheimers or something as it is not like being in contact with any normal business.I do recall Elder barking about Len Horowitz buying his Bionaid and was just his own water from his place in Hawaii in the bottles.Len was cutting him out of buying the water from him or so he claimed at the time even here on GLP. It appears Elder was doing the same thing or took up the practice.


I'm not sure that Burk's business is so bad. He had rent the house in front of his mother's house to install his two brand new goddauthers, and all year long, he rented a nice grey car which costs more than $900,00 a month. So ...
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I doubt it. Elder lives on V.A. disability in his widowed Mom's home outside Chattanooga in Ringold, GA. Likely the water now in the bottles is right from their tap and then they stick the labels on. If the water is so fabulous why is Elder so disabled drawing his check? It didn't work for him or his Mom.They seem to have Alzheimers or something as it is not like being in contact with any normal business.I do recall Elder barking about Len Horowitz buying his Bionaid and was just his own water from his place in Hawaii in the bottles.Len was cutting him out of buying the water from him or so he claimed at the time even here on GLP. It appears Elder was doing the same thing or took up the practice.
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I'm not sure that Burk's business is so bad. He had rent the house in front of his mother's house to install his two brand new goddauthers, and all year long, he rented a nice grey car which costs more than $900,00 a month. So ...
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I doubt it. Elder lives on V.A. disability in his widowed Mom's home outside Chattanooga in Ringold, GA. Likely the water now in the bottles is right from their tap and then they stick the labels on. If the water is so fabulous why is Elder so disabled drawing his check? It didn't work for him or his Mom.They seem to have Alzheimers or something as it is not like being in contact with any normal business.I do recall Elder barking about Len Horowitz buying his Bionaid and was just his own water from his place in Hawaii in the bottles.Len was cutting him out of buying the water from him or so he claimed at the time even here on GLP. It appears Elder was doing the same thing or took up the practice.
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I'm not sure that Burk's business is so bad. He had rent the house in front of his mother's house to install his two brand new goddauthers, and all year long, he rented a nice grey car which costs more than $900,00 a month. So ...

Are you sure you've been to his subdivision? there was no house in their front yard.The houses all have front yards that go out to the curb like normal unless they moved from the house his Dad lived in.What is "goddauthers"?Likely YOU were the only one paying his payments of things for him. He ran through his Dad's estate money that funded most of his ventures and made no money if you listen to his Mom who's lost the most.
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I doubt it. Elder lives on V.A. disability in his widowed Mom's home outside Chattanooga in Ringold, GA. Likely the water now in the bottles is right from their tap and then they stick the labels on. If the water is so fabulous why is Elder so disabled drawing his check? It didn't work for him or his Mom.They seem to have Alzheimers or something as it is not like being in contact with any normal business.I do recall Elder barking about Len Horowitz buying his Bionaid and was just his own water from his place in Hawaii in the bottles.Len was cutting him out of buying the water from him or so he claimed at the time even here on GLP. It appears Elder was doing the same thing or took up the practice.
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I'm not sure that Burk's business is so bad. He had rent the house in front of his mother's house to install his two brand new goddauthers, and all year long, he rented a nice grey car which costs more than $900,00 a month. So ...
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Are you sure you've been to his subdivision? there was no house in their front yard.The houses all have front yards that go out to the curb like normal unless they moved from the house his Dad lived in.What is "goddauthers"?Likely YOU were the only one paying his payments of things for him. He ran through his Dad's estate money that funded most of his ventures and made no money if you listen to his Mom who's lost the most.


No, i am absolutely sure about the house in front of the his mother's house. He put Anastasia first in. An he had troubles with the police at this time. So the sheriff of Ringgold has record of the house and Anastasia. You must be Elder to be so angry!

And here, on the picture, the second goddauther, with Elder and his grey car!

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I doubt it. Elder lives on V.A. disability in his widowed Mom's home outside Chattanooga in Ringold, GA. Likely the water now in the bottles is right from their tap and then they stick the labels on. If the water is so fabulous why is Elder so disabled drawing his check? It didn't work for him or his Mom.They seem to have Alzheimers or something as it is not like being in contact with any normal business.I do recall Elder barking about Len Horowitz buying his Bionaid and was just his own water from his place in Hawaii in the bottles.Len was cutting him out of buying the water from him or so he claimed at the time even here on GLP. It appears Elder was doing the same thing or took up the practice.
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I'm not sure that Burk's business is so bad. He had rent the house in front of his mother's house to install his two brand new goddauthers, and all year long, he rented a nice grey car which costs more than $900,00 a month. So ...
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Are you sure you've been to his subdivision? there was no house in their front yard.The houses all have front yards that go out to the curb like normal unless they moved from the house his Dad lived in.What is "goddauthers"?Likely YOU were the only one paying his payments of things for him. He ran through his Dad's estate money that funded most of his ventures and made no money if you listen to his Mom who's lost the most.
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No, i am absolutely sure about the house in front of the his mother's house. He put Anastasia first in. An he had troubles with the police at this time. So the sheriff of Ringgold has record of the house and Anastasia. You must be Elder to be so angry!

And here, on the picture, the second goddauther, with Elder and his grey car!

[link to www.facebook.com]


Turn him in to the IRS to audit him if you feel he has purposefully conned you and others.I bet he is just NO good with money and has short lived good intentions spread around too far.Seriously I wouldn't believe anyone who wagered such a huge amount of gold.IF they had it, then certainly they wouldn't be having to SELL water.If he is on government handouts many of them you have to count "donations"as income and it takes away your disability or food allotment when they get deducted as it should. It is fraud to not report "donations"if you are on several programs plus taxes are owed.

Unfortunately the newagers I have found are every bit as capable of being corrupt and a scam as mainstream medicine and the Rockefellar scam system.Yet their are naive or good people like your self caught in things, too.

Likely Elder is on some cash flow problem like medical bills and bills all around or he would have sent you the water at least. He also could have taken offense at your offense knowing Elder.He could be low on oxygen from his heart/cardiovascular issue and is just not able to think clearly on the low oxygen...like dealing with someone being strangled.He is getting up there in years and has had his heart condition for many years.

I am not Elder, but I have known him.
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Oh, I see now you meant the house ACROSS the street from his Mom's house not in her front yard.

Try talking with Leona to figure it out. She's a very moral person even if she is over protective of Elder for his age of almost ancient himself.Scots spin yarns and exaggerate but value their reputation.
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This saga should be on "Dateline" or "60 minutes" TV documentaries. 7500 bottles of water missing. I bet they couldn't afford that many bottles to put any water IN.It's hard for Elder to pour water and him and Leona label 3 bottles of water let alone 7500.It took forever for them to pour the Miracle 2 soap into bottles to ship. It was fabulous product but you could be alot worse as long as they took to mail any thing.Your large order must have overwhelmed their circuits. Leona likes to be the only one helping Elder label and ship so it was a two person business.
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Oh, I see now you meant the house ACROSS the street from his Mom's house not in her front yard.

Try talking with Leona to figure it out. She's a very moral person even if she is over protective of Elder for his age of almost ancient himself.Scots spin yarns and exaggerate but value their reputation.
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It's not possible to talk to Leona. If you really know the family you must be aware of that. Elder says to everybody that his mum is shy, but NO, she's not. She's like his son, selfish and greedy.

About the two goddauthers, Elder had talked about them a lot on his facebook's page.

But, like all his relationships, the relation between these 2 young, fresh, beautiful girls seems no longer lasting.

But, thanks for the futur lawyer who will take the case, it remains the sheriff records!
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Oh, I see now you meant the house ACROSS the street from his Mom's house not in her front yard.

Try talking with Leona to figure it out. She's a very moral person even if she is over protective of Elder for his age of almost ancient himself.Scots spin yarns and exaggerate but value their reputation.
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It's not possible to talk to Leona. If you really know the family you must be aware of that. Elder says to everybody that his mum is shy, but NO, she's not. She's like his son, selfish and greedy.

About the two goddauthers, Elder had talked about them a lot on his facebook's page.

But, like all his relationships, the relation between these 2 young, fresh, beautiful girls seems no longer lasting.

But, thanks for the futur lawyer who will take the case, it remains the sheriff records!
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OK, my group gets through easier to Leona and she shields Elder. She is not shy and is quite intelligent.I know locals from his home town. Could you restate briefly your "beef" or case like what Elder owes you or the original issues and what could happen to satify you.Try to write it in American English if you can.Maybe list points out of what he needs to pay or send your group (s).I'll see if I can get through. It has solved a few dramatic issues before which had gotten blown all out of proportion by Elder avoiding people he'd sold expensive things to being paranoid.Elder used to go by "Hanged Man" on GLP.

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Oh, I see now you meant the house ACROSS the street from his Mom's house not in her front yard.

Try talking with Leona to figure it out. She's a very moral person even if she is over protective of Elder for his age of almost ancient himself.Scots spin yarns and exaggerate but value their reputation.
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It's not possible to talk to Leona. If you really know the family you must be aware of that. Elder says to everybody that his mum is shy, but NO, she's not. She's like his son, selfish and greedy.

About the two goddauthers, Elder had talked about them a lot on his facebook's page.

But, like all his relationships, the relation between these 2 young, fresh, beautiful girls seems no longer lasting.

But, thanks for the futur lawyer who will take the case, it remains the sheriff records!
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OK, my group gets through easier to Leona and she shields Elder. She is not shy and is quite intelligent.I know locals from his home town. Could you restate briefly your "beef" or case like what Elder owes you or the original issues and what could happen to satify you.Try to write it in American English if you can.Maybe list points out of what he needs to pay or send your group (s).I'll see if I can get through. It has solved a few dramatic issues before which had gotten blown all out of proportion by Elder avoiding people he'd sold expensive things to being paranoid.Elder used to go by "Hanged Man" on GLP.

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Thanks to try to negociate a way out.

If you want to stop the lawsuit against Burk Elder you'd better be in touch rapidly with the three former distributors of bionaid Burk Elder has stolen a couple of bucks (American English):

Claus Nicolae Nielsen, Denmark,
Clarence Lee, Singapore,
Rodney, England.

Go to:

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and the whole story. Just let a message in the comments area, and/or write to the detailed addresses they let know in the texts (article and comments).
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B.E.H.: Charges and crimes to be stopped with Bion aid.

Here are some new interesting, but not so surprising, developments in addition to the topic here:

Thread: BURK ELDER HALE: A CASE OF FRAUD IN NEW AGE PRODUCTS

B.E.H.: A CASE OF FRAUD IN NEW AGE PRODUCTS


Proof from B.E.H.'s own website testimonials that I was indeed an authorized distributor of Bion aid.

If you google search for the B.E.H's misdeeds, you find the same article on the site squi doo (in one word) that the OP of the first link pointed out, followed by a new article (the title is just above) regarding the proof that the Danish guy, Claus Nicolae Nielsen, was really a Bion aid distributor, then followed by the readers comments.

Among the comments are those of B.E.H. himself before Claus wrote this new article:


B.E.H. (17 OCT 2012):

These same people, on other sites linked here have claimed to be distributors of Bion aid, and that is another absolute lie.


Claus replied to him with this answer:


CLAUS NICOLAE NIELSEN (21 OCT 2012):


Let us see the proof B.E.H. please! And how that can justify cheating us for almost $15.000. I was indeed distributing Bion aid passionately, putting all my heart into it for several years, every night working.

Here are some of the articles (in Danish) about Bion aid that I distributed on the net, some going back to 2009. There is even proof from B.E.H.'s own website that I was a distributor! (first link below, until he removes it of course, but I still have a print screen though and LOTS of other proof), even bringing in some great testimonials through all my hard work.

I guess these were from the days where Dan Nelson's water was still in Bion aid. I have had customers later complaining that Bion aid no longer was the same as the last batch they got, and my wife told me the same. Imagine that this man wants to expose himself here as an outright liar...

Good Lord, what else can we trust from him these days then? "Say a little prayer for you", as Aretha Franklin sings. Yes, if you donate to him for the price of one bottle you may be lucky to receive one, if you order a case or several cases... I am not so sure... at least this is our experience, but I really dont think Bion aid is what is used to be anyway.

We made some tests as mentioned in the article above.

Now here are a few links proving that I have taken a lot of effort translating and writing articles about Bion aid, plus evidence of the company I once had called Bion aidDK. Why go to such efforts to pretend to be a distributor of Bion aid if I had no Bion aid to supply the customers with anyway?! Really doesnt make too much sense does it?

No more proof needed to show that B.E.H. (these days around at least) is a liar, sadly as it is. A very unkind man as well I would say. Even if I accepted that my payment was a donation - which there was no mentioning of in our emails where the amount to be paid was calculated bottle by bottle - he surely should supply me with his promised "gift" in return of $5000 sent (this I can proove of course).

But I did not see even a single bottle coming my way, not even when my child was ill and I asked him for just a few bottles. I think B.E.H. went through some tough disappointing times that turned him this way around, but who knows, maybe his disease just got worse and worse. I think you try to do a lot of good B.E.H., but why screew us like this then?

[link to www.Bion] aid.us/kirsten.pdf (screenshot at the bottom of the article above)

[link to www.anmark-selskaber.com] aiddk-v-claus-nicolae-nielsen-aop4/

[link to www.alternativ.info]

[link to www.selvet.dk]

sites.google.com/site/sundhedskonsulenten/colloidalsilver1



Or simply google 'Claus Nicolae Nielsen Bion aid'. There is quite a lot there dating back many years...

Scan of bank statements to B.E.H. can follow as well if needed. Ask for them B.E.H.! :-)

Good luck B.E.H.. Regain your dignity please.



So, Claus states four things, thanks to very important links mentionned above in his comment:

1) He really was a Bion aid distributor in Denmark with proof of it. So, B.E.H. is an outright liar.

2) B.E.H. cheated him in receiving a lot of money from him without sending him back the Bion aid bottles corresponding to the price, pretending it was a donation according to the NEW terms of agreement.

3) B.E.H. has no heart. Just a greedy and evil mind. Even when his Danish distributor and dude needs some Bion aid bottles for his own illed son, he did nothing.

4) The content of the NEW Bion aid bottles has changed and it is no more efficient as it used to be with the Dan Nelson's formula.


Claus then continues with a very good news (he is going to sue B.E.H.):


CLAUS NICOLAE NIELSEN (23 OCT 2012):


I guess it is convenient for B.E.H. to claim that I never was a Bion aid distributor, as he indeed dares in his comments below, as he cheated me of $5000 with his suddenly appearing and very questionable "donation" disclaimer, when we had always been doing our business dealings straight up, counted and paid bottle by bottle.

If I had never been a distributor, and the main one even.... really, why does he then have around 20 testimonials about Bion aid from me on his website? LOL. Sorry B.E.H., but you are really not making it easier on yourself. This is also verifiable and documented on the Godlikeproductions forum in the thread B.E.H.: A CASE OF FRAUD IN NEW AGE PRODUCTS in case he removes them.


Why is he trying to cover that up, even proving himself a liar, if he knows that he has the law on his side in regards to me violating his terms so I was not entitled to a single bottle from the $5000 "donated"? Which are the terms I violated so badly - and by doing what - that made Santa so angry that he felt I did not deserve any of my free gifts? Not even a few bottles for my ill son by request? B.E.H., please prove to the forum here what I did that pissed off Santa so much that made me not deserve my Christmas-payed-by-myself-in-advance-for-presents from the man of generosity himself?

Yes, I saw that B.E.H. at one point put up 'donation' buttons on his site for customers - instead of the 'buy' buttons he used before - now promising free gifts in return - hopefully...

But for me having been a distributor for Europe for years, I was never announced that my bank transfer to buy and DISTRIBUTE his Bion aid suddenly had transformed from being a business transaction into a quite generous DONATION
from me! After all, this was my main business to sustain my life and family! Makes a lot a sense right? Fairness par excellence! :-(


I will indeed sue him - as somebody also suggested on Godlikeproduktions - as soon as I am able to follow up on it in case these blogs we put up recently do not fulfill their purpose of tickling the inner Santa out of him. Sadly, these $15k that he cheated us for is not taken from generous donating millionaire's accounts... but business partners - maybe not millionaires... and it hurts.

But hey, good news are here! B.E.H. now declares below to give us $1.000.000 on top!! In gold I guess! Bro, please give us that on a legal paper huh? Just for you to not stand out as a complete idiot flashing gold bars in reward on a Squidoo blog.. And I will scan them in here. I promise! ;-) Hey, or I just bring my laptop to court and showcase your generous offer here right? Easy words, easy. But it could potentially become a very Golden Christmas for Clarence and I coming up right? ;-)



Remember that B.E.H. himself, through different pseudos on GLP, claimed to be a SOUND AND HONEST BUSINESSMAN. If it was really the case, even this single mention of being a businessman clearly shows that he makes business, NOT RUNNING A CHARITY ASSOCIATION!!!!!

He is then really a liar and a con man.

By doing a research, we find that the brand name Bion aid belongs to him.

[link to www.trademarkia.com] aid-85466415.html

Since OCT 6th, 2012, this trade mark seems to be available again. You should properly investigate through a lawyer to be sure.

At one point in time, B.E.H. should have had a dispute with Dan Nelson and the previous manufacturer, the real inventor of the original Bion aid formula, for (your choice):

1) those weird marketing B.E.H.aviors (donations instead of mere purchases), maybe to avoid to pay royalties,

2) the outright lying arguments of healing effects and biased “research testimonies” (without the bad claims of ide effects) of Bion aid and, at last, for

3) divergent financial reasons (regarding the royalties for exemple).


That is maybe / surely why B.E.H. changed the original Bion aid formula he used to sell under Bion aid name (now a new completely different product) which belongs to Dan Nelson's work. In other terms, there is another fraud when using the same name (Bion aid) for two very different products.

Look at the proofs now.

On the following page,

[link to www.trio] xy silver.com/bionresearch.htm

B.E.H. clearly mentions results from researches (he didn't pay for) BEFORE the “enhanced” new water to “better” sell his completely DIFFERENT PRODUCT AND MANUFACTURER! Here are his OWN STATEMENTS AND WORDS:


In our years of following the testing Covalent Bonded Silver-Oxygen Hydrosols we have noted amazing results with university and human clinical studies. As part of our Range Guide Ezine Research Section, the studies posted below, except for those regardiong Bion aid™, were performed by associates of our previous manufacturers on products we have advanced further with our new manufacturering associates working for BHI MFG, LLC in 2009 A.D, thus we are conducting new studies and related research to confirm their validity.

The sturdies below are experimentaal research and experimental observations, not claims of BHI MFG, LLC or B.E.H.-B.E.H.: Hale, Third. All information on our websites are for experimental research and providing experimental observations that include experimental observations provided as anecdotal testimonials from users of Bion aid™. Please remember that our $10 million reward in gold that was never claimed for four years speaks to the superior safety and efficacy of Bion aid™.

DID YOU READ IT? He wrongly uses past studies, DONE WELL BEFORE HE EVEN KNEW THEM (see the research / clinical studies samples of the years 88, 95, 96, 99, 03, 09), even saying “WE have noted amazing results”
as if he was part of the studies when speaking of the Range Guide Ezine Research Section (he wasn't even aware of the formula at its study time), to make believe that the new formula is directly the enhancement of the previous formula belonging to Dan Nelson.

It is as if it was a new version (trio xy silver professionnal) of the previous Covalent Bonded Silver-Oxygen Hydrosols (the one of NASA / Dan Nelson technology). Note that the NASA just made a super-purified water through its technology, NOT ANY HEALING WATER!!!

But THIS NEW VERSION IS STILL UNDER STUDY, AND UNDER Bion aid THE TRADE MARK, according to his own words (he'd better write this if he doesn't want law enforcement problems, he will have whatever), the very same trade mark of the actual bottles he “offers generously vs expensive donations”.

In others words, we don't have ANY scientific and specific results for the consuming of this new, specific and different formula. That's why THE USER OF Bion aid IS AT RISK. EVERYTHING IS EXPERIMENTAL, LIKE FOR GUINEA PIGS. Except that the guinea pigs pay large amounts of money to be tested by B.E.H..

At least, the old formula was safier with proved results. At least, the guinea pigs were paid to be tested. Now, the new formula of his is a VERY DANGEROUS NO MAN'S LAND.

But, since it's not enough to take people / readers as idiots, he adds that these experimental results of the former formula are NOT CLAIMS OF BHI MFG, LLC or B.E.H.-B.E.H.: Hale, Third, i.e. actual Bion aid products, brand owner and manufacturer. He writes exactly the opposite few lines above.

So, WHY DOES HE SHOW THE EXPERIMENTAL RESEARCH RESULTS, AND SPEAK ABOUT THEM IN THE FIRST PART OF HIS BLABLABLA, TO MAKE BELIEVE THAT THE ENHANCED FORMULA IS EVEN BETTER? EVEN BETTER TO WHAT, SINCE NO CONNECTION WITH THE COVALENT BONDED SILVER-OXYGEN HYDROSOLS IS SUPPOSED TO BE DONE?

We seem to be really assholes since he asks us to, please, remember that his $10 million reward in gold that was never claimed for four years speaks to the superior safety and efficacy of Bion aid™. We are in 2012. He then offered 10 millions dollars in 2009 (where? Since we discover together the $ 1,000,000 in gold reward press release in this thread) to challenge his new formula when it didn't even exist on the maket and in any user body since no research had begun at that time! A VERY DANGEROUS GUY INDEED!

NOW IT'S 10 MILLIONS DOLLARS IN GOLD, TEN TIMES THE REWARD WE KNEW UNTIL NOW. BUT HOW TO CLAIM ANYTHING WHEN WE DON'T KNOW WHAT IS TO BE PROVED? Superior safety and efficacy of Bion aid against something which is just under experiment when the experiment could last tens of years still? What “safety” and “efficacy” mean? In what field? In what cases?

You will never know because the more B.E.H. would precise something to be challenged, the more you can challenge it. You will always receive an answer from B.E.H. saying that the cases you would provide to challenge him wasn't what was expected to be proved. The challenge is too much blurred to ever win anything.

In fact, the challenge is just null, and then a fraud. In absence of definitions of what is to be challenged, there is no challenge at all! PERIOD.

It is as if I offer you 10 millions dollars to prove me that God doesn't exist. Until the result of this study emerge, that will never occur, I “keep” my 10 millions dollars that never existed first hand. And then you are the idiots to believe or to challenge me.

That's how and where B.E.H. lets everyone of us as mere idiots and assholes. A lot of air for just an empty bottle of facts. In few words, HE IS A CON MAN.

But you can always order his products here:

[link to www.fractallifesolutions.com]

For exemple
Purchase* Bion aid trio xy silver Pro bottles
24 bottles of 8oz for $760!!!!!!

What did I read? ORDER / PRODUCTS / PURCHASE? Oh, my goodness, then CLAUS NICOLAE NIELSEN is right to sue B.E.H.. He didn't receive the bottles he ordered months ago!!!

In this other new website serving as a commercial mean to sell Bion aid and other so-called healing products, he dares to CLAIM how better (sorry, THE BEST) is his Bion aid trio xy silver pro water. He even sends the reader to a page of "scientific articles". The first article presentation clearly mentions:

The use of silver nanoparticles has become more widespread in our society. While many believe that silver can be extremely useful in clinical medicine, FIRM EVIDENCE IS STILL LACKING. Thus, we present here a review of their current use in clinical medicine.


B.E.H. mixes many things: nano-particles in industry vs nano-particles in medecine; clinical medecine vs casual treatment; proved results vs no proved evidence.

BUT HE DARES TO LOUDLY CLAIM on the studies page:

Interviews by Bion aid trio xy silver Professional inventor B.E.H., Third, with the man B.E.H.ind the science of hydrating water contained within Bion aid trio xy silver Professional, astrophysicist Dr. Dan Nelson.


See how he gets Bion aid trio xy silver Professional close to astrophysicist Dr. Dan Nelson?

He lets you believe that Dan Nelson is ok with his "own" invention. WHAT? The actual Bion aid is the B.E.H.'s invention? Has he any diploma in science, or even in any other science in the world? NOT AT ALL.

IF DAN NELSON IS A REAL PHYSICIST, B.E.H. HAS NO DIPLOMA AT ALL, NOT EVEN A SCIENTIFIC CULTURE!


HELP PLEASE, STOP HIM IMMEDIATLY.


There is a Bion aid™ trio xy silver™ Professional Bioavailability Comparison Test in which this dangerous mixed statement is written:

If a particle of silver is bioactive it will crystallize when it comes into contact with certain minerals such as sodium. A lab will only tell you what the PPM is and will not show you its bioavailability, i.e., the ability of the particle to interact with pathogens or, in the case of our test, other minerals.


So, the superiority of Bion aid over ALL OTHER SILVER PRODUCTS should be on its bioavailibility, its ability to interact and crystallize when in contact with other minerals. But in the middle of this explanation come the pathogenes which are supposed to be eliminated, the core reason for which you would buy some Bion aid bottles.

BUT WHAT? THE TESTS DON'T REGARD PATHOGENES AT ALL!

ALL HIS PRODUCTS ARE PURE BULLSHIT, GUYS!



I just saw that the manufacturer (or associates with) BHI MFG, LLC, of the new (since 2009) Bion aid trio xy silver Professionnal, having replaced the true original Bion aid formula of Dan Nelson, a real physicist, since 2009, is none but B.E.H. HIMSELF:

[link to www.lookupbook.com]

At this link, it is said that the corporation BHI MFG, LLC, is located:

BHI MFG LLC

702 WOODGATE ROAD,
RINGGOLD, GA 30736
CONTACT: B.E.H.-B.E.H. III
POSTED: 09/2009
SOURCE: Georgia Secty of State

WHAAAT?

This address is his own private physical address! We can then believe that he produces, with his own means (because a real manufacturer would not produce his very few number of bottles), the so “amazing” Bion aid trio xy silver professional water! Does he pump the city water to mix it with a magical powder? What we can say is that no real manufacturer would produce a so little number of bottles. We can expect that B.E.H. just buy empty bootles and fills with his mixture and close them with a kit.

ALERT, ALERT! COPY / PASTE ALL THE PAGES OF HIS WEBSITES FOR THE COURT SERVING AS PROOFS! THE KEYWORDS OF HIS WEB PAGES (websites and other social networks such as facebook) ARE:

Bion aid
Zeoheal
Fractalsolutions
B.E.H.
Range Guide
Zaya
Miracle 11

etc.

Well, to sum up the situation that could help Claus (Denmark), Rodney (UK), Clarence (Asia) and others who could follow them:

1) B.E.H. claims to heal (and kill) many bacterial infections, virus and germs with his own Bion aid water on his own websites, and on Godlikeproductions forum (topic called B.E.H.: a Case of Fraud in New Age Products) through different pseudonymous.

2) B.E.H. didn't send bottles purchased after having received a lot of money for them, from numerous distributors / consumers.

3) B.E.H. claims that some former Bion aid distributors never were distributors, once they complain for his misdeeds.

4) B.E.H. did threat Claus Nicolae Nielsen on Godlikeproductions forum (topic called B.E.H.: a Case of Fraud in New Age Products) through different pseudonymous, thanks to a Norvegian biker he would ask for beating Claus up.

5) B.E.H. claims to be the inventor of Bion aid trio xy silver professional formula (AgO3) without any officially approved scientific and/or technical skills to do it.

6) B.E.H. is the main and only officially claimed director of BHI MFG, LLC, anounced manufacturer (associates with) of the Bion aid trio xy silver professional water. The address of this company is his own private and physical address. There is no water production address where to officially check the production procedures.

7) B.E.H. uses the same name of Bion aid that he owns, for two different products. He was not the inventor, nor the manufacturer, of the former product under the name of Bion aid.

8) B.E.H. never officially noticed his well known foreign distributors about any major change in the product nor the commercial agreement (donations instead of purchases).

9) B.E.H. wrongly used the names and prestige of previous inventors / manufacturers / medical institutions, and their works and papers, to sell his own self-invented products, while claiming his product is better than the other silver waters.

10) B.E.H. can not produce any proof that his water is better, even the best, than the other silver products.

11) B.E.H., as a public demonstration of his water superiority, offers rewards ($ 1,000,000.00 in gold, then $ 10,000,000.00) that is impossible to win for the challenge linked with them are not correctly defined.

12) B.E.H. claims to have scientific studies to prove the safety and efficacy of his water when they are none. He only bases this claim on one study that is still lacking of evidence.

13) B.E.H. claims that tests have been conducted in order to prove the healing effects of his water on pathogenes when the tests were made and focused on minerals. Never on pathogenes.

14) B.E.H. claims to have thousands, sometimes 100,000's of thousands, of testimonies that he can not prove to exist.

15) B.E.H. creates many websites, letting believe that they are not merely his, to self praising himself and his products (in fact, there are soooo many).

ALL OF THESE FACTS CAN BE SEEN AS FRAUDS, SWINDLES, ROBBERY, CON TRICKS, DECEPTIONS, RACKETS OR SCAMS.



ADDENDUM:

16) B.E.H. never proved to have $ 1,000,000.00 in gold, or $ 10,000,000.00, to reward those who would be able to challenge his claims, rewards which push potential consumers to believe him on this facing values.

17) B.E.H. forces people to never sue him through his agreement and terms of services once the user / consumer click on the “I agree” button to see the Bion aid testimonies on his websites (Bion aid), the only way to check the opinions of other users, should any medical side effect or commercial dispute with him or his agents occur. He is then against the law since the announced “testimonials” are suddenly “research testimonials” on the said page, i.e. mere experiments on users. In other words, if consumers just trust B.E.H. without checking the testimonials (then becoming research testimonials), they don't know it is about a medical experiment which is presented as an unspeakable blurred benefit product having nothing to do with remedy, treatment or drug. His products are for a better health, even for killing or fighting germs, virus, bacteria and other infections, but are not intented for that. Any improving health should then be interpreted as totally and completely coincidental. It is a pure double language. JUST CAREFULLY CHOSEN WORDS. But the facts in his postures are the opposite.

18) B.E.H. states that his products are consumed as an experimental test with its clients / consumers since there is no real firm proof of their healing safety and efficacy. It is then even possible that his products are dangerous, even very dangerous, on short or long term for the consumers, particularly due to the absence of production procedures checking. NO REAL CAUTION MEASURE IS PRESENTED AND FOLLOWED BY B.E.H. FOR THE PEOPLE SAFETY. IT IS SURELY THE MOST SERIOUS CHARGE AGAINST HIM.

EACH CHARGE AGAINST B.E.H. REPRESENTS A MINIMUM LEGAL FEE AND PRISON TIME FOR HIM. THE MORE YOU PUT CHARGES IN US, THE MORE HE WILL PAY FOR HIS CRIMES THAT CONTINUE EVERYDAY.



HERE IS THE PROOF THAT B.E.H. IS SUGGESTING TO HEAL MEDICAL PROBLEMS (FEELING ILL) WITH THE USE OF Bion aid trio xy silver PRO:

[link to www.Bion] aid.eu/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&catid=44%3At​ri-oxysilver-text&id=101%3Afaq-1-what-is-the-suggested-use-fo​r-Bion aid-tri-oxysilver&Itemid=91

What is the suggested use for Bion aid Tri-Oxysilver?

Take one teaspoon once or twice daily or mix 4oz (half of a bottle) in 1 gal of pure, natural drinking water and drink 2oz to 8oz per day - a general, daily maintenance supplementation. If you are feeling ill suddenly, double or triple this amount. If you are feeling severely ill suddenly or poisoned by a vaccine, consume up to an entire bottle immediately, undiluted, and drink at least 24 ounces of pure, natural water to flush out the toxins soon afterwards. If you have had a long-term illness, start out with the general, daily maintenance supplementation and double the supplementation every three days, depending on how you are able to tolerate the detox symptoms, until you are taking the product every two hours during the day until the symptoms are gone. See a doctor for any medical concerns.

FEELING ILL IS A MEDICAL CONCERN! NOTHING LESS. HOW A PATIENT CAN MAKE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN BEING REALLY SICK OR JUST NOT-SICK BUT NOT-WELL? JUST A DOCTOR CAN SAY THAT.

But here is a legal disclaimer that very clearly show how sure is B.E.H. about his product:

[link to www.swooshequities.com] aid-sydney/main.html

Legal Disclaimer:

(1) You accept all risks and responsibility for losses, damages, costs and other consequences resulting directly or indirectly from using this site and any information or material available from it.

(2) You accept all risks and responsibility for losses, damages, costs and other consequences resulting directly or indirectly from the purchase, use and consumption of goods supplied by this website.

(3) Any disclaimers, legal notices and cautionary warnings found in www dot Bion aid.com and www dot Bion aid.net websites are also applicable to this site.


AT THE LINK BELOW IS PRESENTED PHOENIX VOYAGE, THE NEW OFFICIAL DISTRIBUTOR:

[link to www.Bion] aid.us/phoenixrising.htm

B.E.H., with his manufactutrers, donated several hundred bottles of product to Uganda for clinical trials earlier in 2008.

Note: UPCOSH/Bion aid™, branded under another name for African distribution last year, is exclusively distributed to Uganda by Phoenix Voyage and their associates. B.E.H.'s previous formulation and product, formerly called by another name (OXS), was the product donated to Uganda for clinical testing in 2008.


SEE PHEONIX VOYAGE DISTRIBUTOR:
[link to pvhi.info]

We just see a commercial banner for Bion aid which directly sends you to B.E.H. website. In other words, there is NO DISTRIBUTION PARTNER. That's how he presents the OFFICIAL DISTRIBUTOR...THIS IS AGAIN A LIE!

...WITH THE HELP OF ZAYA:

[link to www.zaya.tv]

Note that Zaya dot tv IS ANOTHER B.E.H.'S WEBSITE!!!!


I do hope someone will stop him in USA.

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Here, a picture from google Earth, showing the second rented house of Elder. Police of Ringgold can confirm that he lived in this house for sometime.

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Here, a picture from google Earth, showing the second rented house of Elder. Police of Ringgold can confirm that he lived in this house for sometime.

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Burk Elder Hale 111 passed away on January 13, 2013- in Ringgold Ga. - Shine on you Crazy Diamond-
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