What proof do you use to uphold your statements that the state of Israel is an illegal state and goes against the teachings of Judaism?

What is your proof that the State of Israel is against Judaism?

Question of Marc A.:

Dear Rabbi,

What proof do you use to uphold your statements that the state of Israel is an illegal state and goes against the teachings of Judaism?

Marc A.

Answer of Jews Against Zionism:

Dear Marc,

The state of Israel contradicts the Jewish belief that Moshiach will come and afterwards all the Jews will return to the Holy Land. They will go there under Moshiach's leadership. See Isaiah Chapter 11 which begins with a description of Moshiach, and then says (v. 12), "And He (i.e. Hashem) will lift up a banner to the nations, and He will gather in the scattered of Israel, and the diaspora of Yehudah He will gather from the four corners of the earth." See also Rambam Melachim 11:1, "The king Moshiach will eventually arise and restore the kingship of the house of David to its former status, build the Temple and gather in the exiles of Israel."

There are many verses in the Bible that say clearly that G-d (through His emmisary, the Moshiach) will be the one Who redeems the Jewish people from exile and gathers them in. See Deuteronomy 30:3, Isaiah 52:12, Ezekiel 36:24.

Lest you say that the Zionist enterprise is G-d's way of gathering the exiles, the Talmud says that we are forbidden to do this on our own. In Kesubos 111a it states that an oath was imposed on the Jewish people not to go up "as a wall" to Eretz Yisroel. This means that individual Jews are allowed to live there during exile, but a mass movement, and certainly a military conquest as happened in 1948 and 1967, is forbidden. G-d hides behind nature and the acts of man, but in this case we cannot say that this is G-d's ingathering since it was explicitly forbidden to us. Obviously the Jewish people is supposed to wait for G-d to do it in a supernatural way, or at least through an emmisary who is clearly a prophet and can tell us that the time has come.

There are two other oaths mentioned there that apply to the state of Israel. One is the oath against forcing or pre-empting the end of exile. The other is the oath against rebelling against the nations. We are supposed to be submissive and peaceful during exile, not wage wars.


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