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A Question to Bible scholars...Does Jesus specifically mention Yahweh anywhere in the New Testament?

 
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Just curious if he ever mentions God by name or if he always refers to him as Father?
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Study the names of God in Hebrew, Greek and Aramaic.
You will find their are reasons for different names for the ONE True God-Yehweh.


"YHWH"
"Pronounced Yahweh"
Encyclopedia Britannica
Yahweh - the God of the Israelites, his name being revealed to Moses as four Hebrew consonants (YHWH) called the tetragrammaton. After the Exile (6th century BC), and especially from the 3rd century BC on, Jews ceased to use the name Yahweh for two reasons. As Judaism became a universal religion through its proselytizing in the Greco-Roman world, the more common noun Elohim, meaning "god," tended to replace Yahweh to demonstrate the universal sovereignty of Israel's God over all others. At the same time, the divine name was increasingly regarded as too sacred to be uttered; it was thus replaced vocally in the synagogue ritual by the Hebrew word Adonai ("My Lord"), which was translated as Kyrios ("Lord") in the Septuagint, the Greek version of the Old Testament.

The Masoretes, who from about the 6th to the 10th century worked to reproduce the original text of the Hebrew Bible, replaced the vowels of the name YHWH with the vowel signs of the Hebrew words Adonai or Elohim. Thus, the artificial name Jehovah (YeHoWaH) came into being. Although Christian scholars after the Renaissance and Reformation periods used the term Jehovah for YHWH, in the 19th and 20th centuries biblical scholars again began to use the form Yahweh. Early Christian writers, such as Clement of Alexandria in the 2nd century, had used a form like Yahweh, and this pronunciation of the tetragrammaton was never really lost. Other Greek transcriptions also indicated that YHWH should be pronounced Yahweh.

The meaning of the personal name of the Israelite God has been variously interpreted. Many scholars believe that the most proper meaning may be "He Brings Into Existence Whatever Exists" (Yahweh-Asher-Yahweh). In I Samuel, God is known by the name Yahweh Teva-?ot, or "He Brings the Hosts Into Existence," the hosts possibly referring to the heavenly court or to Israel. The personal name of God probably was known long before the time of Moses. The name of Moses' mother was Jochebed (Yokheved), a word based on the name Yahweh. Thus, the tribe of Levi, to which Moses belonged, probably knew the name Yahweh, which originally may have been (in its short form Yo, Yah, or Yahu) a religious invocation of no precise meaning evoked by the mysterious and awesome splendour of the manifestation of the holy.

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THERE is someone who wants to prevent you from knowing Jehovah’s name and enjoying a close relationship with Him. Who is this evil foe? The Bible explains: “The god of this system of things has blinded the minds of the unbelievers.” The god of this present ungodly world is Satan the Devil. He wants to keep you in darkness so that your heart will not be illuminated with “the glorious knowledge of God.” Satan does not want you to know Jehovah by name. How, though, does Satan blind people’s minds?—2 Corinthians 4:4-6.
Satan has used false religion to hinder people from coming to know God by name. For example, in ancient times some Jews chose to ignore the inspired Scriptures in favor of tradition that called for avoiding the use of God’s name. By the first centuries of our Common Era, Jewish public readers had evidently been instructed, not to read God’s name as it appeared in their Holy Scriptures, but to substitute the word ʼAdho‧nai′, meaning “Lord.” Doubtless, this practice contributed to a tragic decline in spirituality. Many lost out on the benefits of a close personal relationship with God. What, though, about Jesus? What was his attitude toward Jehovah’s name?
Jesus and His Followers Made God’s Name Known
Jesus declared in prayer to his Father: “I have made your name known . . . and will make it known.” (John 17:26) Jesus would undoubtedly have pronounced God’s name on numerous occasions when he read, quoted, or explained portions of the Hebrew Scriptures containing that important name. Jesus would thus have used God’s name just as freely as all the prophets did before him. If any Jews were already avoiding the use of God’s name during the time of Jesus’ ministry, Jesus would certainly not have followed their tradition. He strongly criticized the religious leaders when he said to them: “You have made the word of God invalid because of your tradition.”—Matthew 15:6.
Faithful followers of Jesus continued to make God’s name known after Jesus’ death and resurrection. (See the box “Did the First Christians Use God’s Name?”) At Pentecost 33 C.E., the very day the Christian congregation was formed, the apostle Peter, quoting from a prophecy of Joel, said to a multitude of Jews and proselytes: “Everyone who calls on the name of Jehovah will be saved.” (Acts 2:21; Joel 2:32) Early Christians helped people from many nations to come to know Jehovah by name. Thus, in a meeting of the apostles and older men in Jerusalem, the disciple James said: “God . . . turned his attention to the nations to take out of them a people for his name.”—Acts 15:14.
Nevertheless, the enemy of God’s name did not give up. Once the apostles were dead, Satan wasted no time in sowing apostasy. (Matthew 13:38, 39; 2 Peter 2:1) For example, the nominal Christian writer Justin Martyr was born about the time John, the last of the apostles, died. Yet, Justin repeatedly insisted in his writings that the Provider of all things is “a God who is called by no proper name.”
When apostate Christians made copies of the Christian Greek Scriptures, they evidently took Jehovah’s personal name out of the text and substituted Ky′ri‧os, the Greek word for “Lord.” The Hebrew Scriptures did not fare any better. No longer reading God’s name aloud, apostate Jewish scribes replaced the divine name in their Scriptures with ʼAdho‧nai′ more than 130 times. The influential translation of the Bible into Latin that was completed by Jerome in 405 C.E. and that came to be called the Vulgate similarly omitted the personal name of God.
Modern Attempts to Efface God’s Name
Today, scholars are aware that Jehovah’s personal name appears some 7,000 times in the Bible. Thus, some widely used translations, such as the Catholic Jerusalem Bible, the Catholic La Biblia Latinoamérica in Spanish, and the popular Reina-Valera version, also in Spanish, freely use God’s personal name. Some translations render God’s name “Yahweh.”
Sadly, many churches that sponsor Bible translations pressure scholars into omitting God’s name from their translations of the Bible. For example, in a letter dated June 29, 2008, to presidents of Catholic bishops’ conferences, the Vatican stated: “In recent years the practice has crept in of pronouncing the God of Israel’s proper name.” The letter gives this pointed direction: “The name of God . . . is neither to be used or pronounced.” Furthermore, “for the translation of the Biblical text in modern languages, . . . the divine tetragrammaton is to be rendered by the equivalent of Adonai/Kyrios: ‘Lord.’” Clearly, this Vatican directive is aimed at eliminating the use of God’s name.
Protestants have been no less disrespectful in their treatment of Jehovah’s name. A spokesman for the Protestant-sponsored New International Version, published in English in 1978, wrote: “Jehovah is a distinctive name for God and ideally we should have used it. But we put 21⁄4 million dollars into this translation and a sure way of throwing that down the drain is to translate, for example, Psalm 23 as, ‘Yahweh is my shepherd.’”
In addition, churches have hindered Latin Americans from knowing God by name. Steven Voth, a translation consultant for the United Bible Societies (UBS), writes: “One of the ongoing debates in Latin American Protestant circles revolves around the use of the name Jehová . . . Interestingly enough, a very large and growing neo-pentecostal church . . . said they wanted a Reina-Valera 1960 edition, but without the name Jehová. Instead, they wanted the word Señor [Lord].” According to Voth, the UBS rejected this request at first but later gave in and published an edition of the Reina-Valera Bible “without the word Jehová.”
Deleting God’s name from his written Word and replacing it with “Lord” hinders readers from truly knowing who God is. Such a substitution creates confusion. For example, a reader may not be able to discern whether the term “Lord” refers to Jehovah or to his Son, Jesus. Thus, in the scripture in which the apostle Peter quotes David as saying: “Jehovah said to my Lord [the resurrected Jesus]: ‘Sit at my right hand,’” many Bible translations read: “The Lord said to my Lord.” (Acts 2:34, NIV) In addition, David Clines, in his essay “Yahweh and the God of Christian Theology,” points out: “One result of the absence of Yahweh from Christian consciousness has been the tendency to focus on the person of Christ.” Thus, many churchgoers are hardly aware that the true God to whom Jesus directed his prayers is a Person with a name—Jehovah.
Satan has worked hard at blinding people’s minds about God. Even so, you can become intimately acquainted with Jehovah.
You Can Know Jehovah by Name
To be sure, Satan has waged war on the divine name, and he has cleverly used false religion in the process. However, the reality is that no power in heaven or on earth can stop the Sovereign Lord Jehovah from making his name known to those who want to know the truth about him and his glorious purpose for faithful humans.
Jehovah’s Witnesses will be pleased to help you learn how to draw close to God through a study of the Bible. They follow the example of Jesus, who said to God: “I have made your name known to them.” (John 17:26) As you contemplate the scriptures that reveal the various roles that Jehovah has occupied for the blessing of mankind, you will come to know the many beautiful facets of his exalted personality.
The faithful patriarch Job enjoyed “intimacy with God,” and so can you. (Job 29:4) With knowledge of God’s Word, you can know Jehovah by name. Such knowledge will give you confidence that Jehovah will act in harmony with what he said was the meaning of his name—‘I Will Become whatsoever I please.’ (Exodus 3:14, footnote) Thus, he will surely fulfill all his good promises to mankind.
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During the days of Jesus’ apostles in the first century C.E., Christian congregations were formed in many lands. The members of those congregations regularly met together to study the Scriptures. Did those early Christians find Jehovah’s name in their copies of the Scriptures?
Since Greek had become the international language, many congregations used the Greek Septuagint, a translation of the Hebrew Scriptures completed in the second century B.C.E. Some scholars claim that from the time it was originally translated, the Septuagint had always replaced God’s name with the title Ky′ri‧os, the Greek word for “Lord.” But the facts show otherwise.
The fragments illustrated here are portions of the Greek Septuagint that date from the first century B.C.E. They clearly show Jehovah’s name, represented in the Greek text by the four Hebrew letters יהוה (YHWH), or the Tetragrammaton. Professor George Howard wrote: “We have three separate pre-Christian copies of the Greek Septuagint Bible and in not a single instance is the Tetragrammaton translated kyrios or for that matter translated at all. We can now say with near certainty that it was a Jewish practice before, during, and after the New Testament period to write the divine name . . . right into the Greek text of Scripture.”—Biblical Archaeology Review.
Did Jesus’ apostles and disciples use God’s name in their inspired writings? Professor Howard notes: “When the Septuagint which the New Testament church used and quoted contained the Hebrew form of the divine name, the New Testament writers no doubt included the Tetragrammaton in their quotations.”
Therefore, we may safely conclude that the first Christians could read God’s name both in their translations of the Hebrew Scriptures and in their copies of the
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The short answer is yes. I found the following article along with many others.


YHWH in the New Testament

For a long time it was thought that the divine Tetragrammaton YHWH, in Hebrew written with the letters, YHWH (which recurs over 6800 times in the Hebrew text of the Old Testament) did not appear in the original writings of the New Testament. In its place it was thought that the writers of the New Testament had used the Greek word for LORD, KURIOS. However, it seems that such an opinion is wrong. Here below are some factors to consider:

1) The Tetragrammaton in the Greek Version of Old Testament, the Septuagint (LXX).

One of the reasons produced to support the above mentioned opinion was that the LXX substituted for YHWH (YHWH) the term KYRIOS, (kurios) which was the equivalent Greek of the Hebrew word ADONAY used by some Hebrews when they met the Tetragrammaton during the Bible reading.

However, recent discoveries have shown that the practice of substitution in the LXX for YHWH with KURIOS started in a much later period in comparison with the beginning of that version. As a matter of fact, the older copies of the LXX keep the Tetragrammaton written in Hebrew characters in the Greek text. (See App. 1)


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The short answer is yes. I found the following article along with many others.


YHWH in the New Testament

For a long time it was thought that the divine Tetragrammaton YHWH, in Hebrew written with the letters, YHWH (which recurs over 6800 times in the Hebrew text of the Old Testament) did not appear in the original writings of the New Testament. In its place it was thought that the writers of the New Testament had used the Greek word for LORD, KURIOS. However, it seems that such an opinion is wrong. Here below are some factors to consider:

1) The Tetragrammaton in the Greek Version of Old Testament, the Septuagint (LXX).

One of the reasons produced to support the above mentioned opinion was that the LXX substituted for YHWH (YHWH) the term KYRIOS, (kurios) which was the equivalent Greek of the Hebrew word ADONAY used by some Hebrews when they met the Tetragrammaton during the Bible reading.

However, recent discoveries have shown that the practice of substitution in the LXX for YHWH with KURIOS started in a much later period in comparison with the beginning of that version. As a matter of fact, the older copies of the LXX keep the Tetragrammaton written in Hebrew characters in the Greek text. (See App. 1)


The rest of the story can be found here

[link to nakaryah.xanga.com]
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The textus-receptus was used to create the 1611 translation.

From the 1611 translation in english the bible was then translated directly to 800 of 1200 languanges it's been translated into around the world. From english to the other languages.

God preserved His Word. And His Word by and large was preserved from the textus-receptus.
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The problem here is most christians or seekers do not know how to study the word of God, as in the case of God's name or Names. One has to go back in History and the old manuscripts to gather the info to see the Truth.

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Just curious if he ever mentions God by name or if he always refers to him as Father?
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Yahweh is not the name of God, it's an English translation. The same goes for Jesus.
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Jesus is the Word of God, preexistent and eternal with
the Father and the Holy Spirit; together, Elohim.
Jesus, being God, showed the intimacy that Almighty God
desired from the start, calling Him Father, and teaching
His followers to do the same.
That got Him into HOT water with the religious leaders,
who considered it blasphemy.
That got Him crucified, which saved us.

The eternal Word of God became flesh to die for our sins,
that all who would come to Him might become sons and
daughters of Almighty God, and live eternally with Him.

Then He will be called as prophesied in Isaiah

Isaiah 9
6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given:
and the government shall be upon his shoulder:
and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor,
The mighty God,
The everlasting Father,
The Prince of Peace.
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Yahweh is Satan. That's not the name of the God given to Moses in Exodus 3:14. Yahweh is the name of the Golden Calf.

I AM THAT I AM/ AHAYAH ASHER AHAYAH (Hebrew) =/= yahweh
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Just curious if he ever mentions God by name or if he always refers to him as Father?
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YES, He did


Mat 27:45 Now from the sixth hour there was darkness over all the land unto the ninth hour.
Mat 27:46 And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani?
that is to say, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?

BUT – He was quoting Psa 22:1

To the chief Musician upon Aijeleth Shahar, A Psalm of David.
My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me? why art thou so far from helping me, and from the words of my roaring?

If you continue to read Psalms, it is a prophecy and gives every detail about Christ’s crucifixion.
Jesus was not really calling on GOD but was quoting Psalms to bring to our attention, that the prophecy had been fulfilled.
He would not have called GOD anything but ‘Father’, because Jesus was GOD in the flesh.

Mat 1:23 Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.
Gal 4:16 Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?

Here in America - in GOD we still trust...
Be silent! Be patient! Be quiet!
Be Still! - And know that He is God.
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Thanks for those responses. I'm interested because I want to know if Jesus worshiped the same god as in the old testament.
Seems like there are different names for God (perhaps because there was more than one?)

I am curious about Yahweh because he slaughtered and/or
encouraged the slaughter of innocent people. He'd also
harden their hearts. WTH? Why would he do something like
that and why would Jesus worship a god like that when he
preaches just the opposite?
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Thanks for those responses. I'm interested because I want to know if Jesus worshiped the same god as in the old testament.
Seems like there are different names for God (perhaps because there was more than one?)

I am curious about Yahweh because he slaughtered and/or
encouraged the slaughter of innocent people. He'd also
harden their hearts. WTH? Why would he do something like
that and why would Jesus worship a god like that when he
preaches just the opposite?
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Jesus IS the God of the Old Testament.
He was in the fiery furnace, He spoke to Moses, Noah,
Job, ("I KNOW that my Redeemer lives").
This notion that God of Old Testament = BAD
God of New Testament = GOOD
is TOTALLY wrong.

Jesus is the Word of God.
He created EVERYTHING THAT IS.
You OBVIOUSLY haven't read the New Testament.
Jesus throughout His life was consistent.
He can NEVER change. God changes NOT.
Jesus will judge lost mankind and have them cast into
the Lake of Fire for all eternity.
Read the last book of the New Testament.
He destroyed all of mankind in a flood,
save for eight souls.
He is a God of Love AND
He is a God of Wrath.
God hates sin so much that ONE SIN cursed all
mankind.
He says His mercy; however, endures forever,
and He proved it by dying on a cross for us.

Whoever you are, who keeps putting out the lie
that the God of the Old Testament is different
IN ANY WAY from the God of the New Testament,
you will stand before Jesus Christ at Judgment Day
and answer for lying about GOD ALMIGHTY,
and trying to deceive people concerning God.

Wouldn't want to be in your shoes on that day.
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Thanks for those responses. I'm interested because I want to know if Jesus worshiped the same god as in the old testament.
Seems like there are different names for God (perhaps because there was more than one?)

I am curious about Yahweh because he slaughtered and/or
encouraged the slaughter of innocent people. He'd also
harden their hearts. WTH? Why would he do something like
that and why would Jesus worship a god like that when he
preaches just the opposite?
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Jesus IS the God of the Old Testament.
He was in the fiery furnace, He spoke to Moses, Noah,
Job, ("I KNOW that my Redeemer lives").
This notion that God of Old Testament = BAD
God of New Testament = GOOD
is TOTALLY wrong.

Jesus is the Word of God.
He created EVERYTHING THAT IS.
You OBVIOUSLY haven't read the New Testament.
Jesus throughout His life was consistent.
He can NEVER change. God changes NOT.
Jesus will judge lost mankind and have them cast into
the Lake of Fire for all eternity.
Read the last book of the New Testament.
He destroyed all of mankind in a flood,
save for eight souls.
He is a God of Love AND
He is a God of Wrath.
God hates sin so much that ONE SIN cursed all
mankind.
He says His mercy; however, endures forever,
and He proved it by dying on a cross for us.

Whoever you are, who keeps putting out the lie
that the God of the Old Testament is different
IN ANY WAY from the God of the New Testament,
you will stand before Jesus Christ at Judgment Day
and answer for lying about GOD ALMIGHTY,
and trying to deceive people concerning God.

Wouldn't want to be in your shoes on that day.
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clappa
Gal 4:16 Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?

Here in America - in GOD we still trust...
Be silent! Be patient! Be quiet!
Be Still! - And know that He is God.
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"Jesus IS the God of the Old Testament."
So your saying Jesus murdered all of those innocent
people. That he hardened their hearts?
And then what? He changed his mind and decided
to try love instead of making war on his own creation?
Who did he pray? Himself? Sorry. Not
trying to be a smart ass but I'm trying to
figure this out and that just doesn't make
any sense.
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no, the new testament was written by francis bacon
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There are theories that Jesus was crucified because he used gods proper name. It was against the law to say the name out loud and it was the only offence they could get him on.
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Jesus was a buddhist who combined jewish beliefs with his teachings to sell it to the other jews. God is irrelevant when it comes to following the code of jesus.
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"Jesus IS the God of the Old Testament."
So your saying Jesus murdered all of those innocent
people. That he hardened their hearts?
And then what? He changed his mind and decided
to try love instead of making war on his own creation?
Who did he pray? Himself? Sorry. Not
trying to be a smart ass but I'm trying to
figure this out and that just doesn't make
any sense.
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Well, at least you are trying to figure it out and that is more than most people do.

Keep working on it and it would not hurt to ask God for a word of knowledge.
He will certainly give you the answers if you ask Him sincerely.

Oh, one more thing - those people were not innocent.
Gal 4:16 Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?

Here in America - in GOD we still trust...
Be silent! Be patient! Be quiet!
Be Still! - And know that He is God.
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"Jesus IS the God of the Old Testament."

a) So your saying Jesus murdered all of those innocent
people. That he hardened their hearts?

b) And then what? He changed his mind and decided
to try love instead of making war on his own creation?

c) Who did he pray? Himself?
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a) Did He give them time and space to repent prior to hardening their hearts? Did he give them warning that he would destroy them if they did not obey him? Or did it fall upon them without warning?

b) God shows love and mercy and compassion all throughout scripture. Both the old and new testament demonstrate these attributes.

c) Who was God speaking to when He says; "Let us make man in our image" - Genesis 1:26
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"c) Who was God speaking to when He says; "Let us make man in our image" - Genesis 1:26"

Who is he talking to?

What is with the us and the our
part?
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think you might want to forget about the new and old testament, along with most modern bibles. find yourself the oldest religion know to man and read that text. you will find all the same charters just different names(makes you really think about today's religions) and a lot more content. the modern bibles full of lies and misinformation. there are 2 different civilizations that date back over 10,000 years and both have a story of creation. not to much different then what you read today just a ton more content on the "creation of matter"
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Just curious if he ever mentions God by name or if he always refers to him as Father?
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The Hebrews interchanged Yahweh, Lord, and God as they saw fit when translating the ancient Hebrew scriptures to modern Hebrew. When the Israelites reached Canaan they took up the Canaanite pantheon and conflated their dieties with Yahweh attributing to him all of the accomplishments credited to other gods.

The Canaanites had knowledge of Yahweh and recognized him as a god of the desert (El Shaddai) The Palestinians recognized Yahweh as a son of El Elyon and as the god of samaria. Apochyphal scripture confirms this.

In 1929 the Ugarit scrolls were discovered as these are translated we discover that the existing Hebrew versions were revised to make Yahweh appear as the greatest god.

Here is an example of a directly translated text as opposed to the Hebrews translations.

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Just curious if he ever mentions God by name or if he always refers to him as Father?
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Yahweh is not the name of God, it's an English translation. The same goes for Jesus.
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Yes. Most people think as if the texts of the Bible were written in Western languages...
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Looks more like a not functioning standard setup with only a few having fun.

THERE is someone who wants to prevent you from knowing Jehovah’s name and enjoying a close relationship with Him. Who is this evil foe? The Bible explains: “The god of this system of things has blinded the minds of the unbelievers.” The god of this present ungodly world is Satan the Devil. He wants to keep you in darkness so that your heart will not be illuminated with “the glorious knowledge of God.” Satan does not want you to know Jehovah by name. How, though, does Satan blind people’s minds?—2 Corinthians 4:4-6.
Satan has used false religion to hinder people from coming to know God by name. For example, in ancient times some Jews chose to ignore the inspired Scriptures in favor of tradition that called for avoiding the use of God’s name. By the first centuries of our Common Era, Jewish public readers had evidently been instructed, not to read God’s name as it appeared in their Holy Scriptures, but to substitute the word ʼAdho‧nai′, meaning “Lord.” Doubtless, this practice contributed to a tragic decline in spirituality. Many lost out on the benefits of a close personal relationship with God. What, though, about Jesus? What was his attitude toward Jehovah’s name?
Jesus and His Followers Made God’s Name Known
Jesus declared in prayer to his Father: “I have made your name known . . . and will make it known.” (John 17:26) Jesus would undoubtedly have pronounced God’s name on numerous occasions when he read, quoted, or explained portions of the Hebrew Scriptures containing that important name. Jesus would thus have used God’s name just as freely as all the prophets did before him. If any Jews were already avoiding the use of God’s name during the time of Jesus’ ministry, Jesus would certainly not have followed their tradition. He strongly criticized the religious leaders when he said to them: “You have made the word of God invalid because of your tradition.”—Matthew 15:6.
Faithful followers of Jesus continued to make God’s name known after Jesus’ death and resurrection. (See the box “Did the First Christians Use God’s Name?”) At Pentecost 33 C.E., the very day the Christian congregation was formed, the apostle Peter, quoting from a prophecy of Joel, said to a multitude of Jews and proselytes: “Everyone who calls on the name of Jehovah will be saved.” (Acts 2:21; Joel 2:32) Early Christians helped people from many nations to come to know Jehovah by name. Thus, in a meeting of the apostles and older men in Jerusalem, the disciple James said: “God . . . turned his attention to the nations to take out of them a people for his name.”—Acts 15:14.
Nevertheless, the enemy of God’s name did not give up. Once the apostles were dead, Satan wasted no time in sowing apostasy. (Matthew 13:38, 39; 2 Peter 2:1) For example, the nominal Christian writer Justin Martyr was born about the time John, the last of the apostles, died. Yet, Justin repeatedly insisted in his writings that the Provider of all things is “a God who is called by no proper name.”
When apostate Christians made copies of the Christian Greek Scriptures, they evidently took Jehovah’s personal name out of the text and substituted Ky′ri‧os, the Greek word for “Lord.” The Hebrew Scriptures did not fare any better. No longer reading God’s name aloud, apostate Jewish scribes replaced the divine name in their Scriptures with ʼAdho‧nai′ more than 130 times. The influential translation of the Bible into Latin that was completed by Jerome in 405 C.E. and that came to be called the Vulgate similarly omitted the personal name of God.
Modern Attempts to Efface God’s Name
Today, scholars are aware that Jehovah’s personal name appears some 7,000 times in the Bible. Thus, some widely used translations, such as the Catholic Jerusalem Bible, the Catholic La Biblia Latinoamérica in Spanish, and the popular Reina-Valera version, also in Spanish, freely use God’s personal name. Some translations render God’s name “Yahweh.”
Sadly, many churches that sponsor Bible translations pressure scholars into omitting God’s name from their translations of the Bible. For example, in a letter dated June 29, 2008, to presidents of Catholic bishops’ conferences, the Vatican stated: “In recent years the practice has crept in of pronouncing the God of Israel’s proper name.” The letter gives this pointed direction: “The name of God . . . is neither to be used or pronounced.” Furthermore, “for the translation of the Biblical text in modern languages, . . . the divine tetragrammaton is to be rendered by the equivalent of Adonai/Kyrios: ‘Lord.’” Clearly, this Vatican directive is aimed at eliminating the use of God’s name.
Protestants have been no less disrespectful in their treatment of Jehovah’s name. A spokesman for the Protestant-sponsored New International Version, published in English in 1978, wrote: “Jehovah is a distinctive name for God and ideally we should have used it. But we put 21⁄4 million dollars into this translation and a sure way of throwing that down the drain is to translate, for example, Psalm 23 as, ‘Yahweh is my shepherd.’”
In addition, churches have hindered Latin Americans from knowing God by name. Steven Voth, a translation consultant for the United Bible Societies (UBS), writes: “One of the ongoing debates in Latin American Protestant circles revolves around the use of the name Jehová . . . Interestingly enough, a very large and growing neo-pentecostal church . . . said they wanted a Reina-Valera 1960 edition, but without the name Jehová. Instead, they wanted the word Señor [Lord].” According to Voth, the UBS rejected this request at first but later gave in and published an edition of the Reina-Valera Bible “without the word Jehová.”
Deleting God’s name from his written Word and replacing it with “Lord” hinders readers from truly knowing who God is. Such a substitution creates confusion. For example, a reader may not be able to discern whether the term “Lord” refers to Jehovah or to his Son, Jesus. Thus, in the scripture in which the apostle Peter quotes David as saying: “Jehovah said to my Lord [the resurrected Jesus]: ‘Sit at my right hand,’” many Bible translations read: “The Lord said to my Lord.” (Acts 2:34, NIV) In addition, David Clines, in his essay “Yahweh and the God of Christian Theology,” points out: “One result of the absence of Yahweh from Christian consciousness has been the tendency to focus on the person of Christ.” Thus, many churchgoers are hardly aware that the true God to whom Jesus directed his prayers is a Person with a name—Jehovah.
Satan has worked hard at blinding people’s minds about God. Even so, you can become intimately acquainted with Jehovah.
You Can Know Jehovah by Name
To be sure, Satan has waged war on the divine name, and he has cleverly used false religion in the process. However, the reality is that no power in heaven or on earth can stop the Sovereign Lord Jehovah from making his name known to those who want to know the truth about him and his glorious purpose for faithful humans.
Jehovah’s Witnesses will be pleased to help you learn how to draw close to God through a study of the Bible. They follow the example of Jesus, who said to God: “I have made your name known to them.” (John 17:26) As you contemplate the scriptures that reveal the various roles that Jehovah has occupied for the blessing of mankind, you will come to know the many beautiful facets of his exalted personality.
The faithful patriarch Job enjoyed “intimacy with God,” and so can you. (Job 29:4) With knowledge of God’s Word, you can know Jehovah by name. Such knowledge will give you confidence that Jehovah will act in harmony with what he said was the meaning of his name—‘I Will Become whatsoever I please.’ (Exodus 3:14, footnote) Thus, he will surely fulfill all his good promises to mankind.
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God the Father, Yahweh, I Am, Creator......is truth and the truth does not change it is constant. The Father of the Old Testament is the same Father in the New Testament. He loves ALL of his creation. What we as humans are missing is that we are spirits in human form. When the body ceases to live the spirit does not die. So ordering the deaths of people who were sacrificing their children to idols, eating human flesh, etc., was not beyond him knowing that death is not the end. God knows the complete redemptive plan for his creation, which was carried out by the First of all Creation, Jesus. The spirit world was created FIRST, but this was left out of our scriptures by who we at GLP would call TPTB. Therefore, when we read the scriptures certain things don't add up or is missing. So we doubt and argue over things we should not. Satan likes it that way.
Everything happens for the greater good of those who love the Lord and keeps his commandments. Seek and You shall find OP, just be ready for the truth. It will not be what the masses believe, but neither was Jesus message at the time, which is one reason why he was crucified.
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Just curious if he ever mentions God by name or if he always refers to him as Father?
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The Hebrews interchanged Yahweh, Lord, and God as they saw fit when translating the ancient Hebrew scriptures to modern Hebrew. When the Israelites reached Canaan they took up the Canaanite pantheon and conflated their dieties with Yahweh attributing to him all of the accomplishments credited to other gods.

The Canaanites had knowledge of Yahweh and recognized him as a god of the desert (El Shaddai) The Palestinians recognized Yahweh as a son of El Elyon and as the god of samaria. Apochyphal scripture confirms this.

In 1929 the Ugarit scrolls were discovered as these are translated we discover that the existing Hebrew versions were revised to make Yahweh appear as the greatest god.

Here is an example of a directly translated text as opposed to the Hebrews translations.

[link to ancienthebrewpoetry.typepad.com]
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This is cool, going to check it out. thx.
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It was the very reason he was killed. It was against the jwsh law to speak his name.

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