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How to Make Liposomal Vitamin C!! Will PROTECT YOU from RADIATION!! | |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 23393274  Norway10/20/2012 12:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Vitamin C  is not a "Vitamin" at all. It is supposed to be a "liver metabolite", which humans lostthe ability to produce when the gene for the production of a specific liver enzyme mutated probably as a result of radiation from the explosion of a super-novae several million years ago. Only most primates, some birds, and the guinea pig were affected. In animals that were not affected, when there is a disease or infection or injury, the liver immediately produces huge quantities of "C".. it is the first line of defense against anything that affects the body..the immune system then steps in and cleans up the remaining fragments. In humans, the immune system is immediately overtaxed because its only designed to shine the floors not sweep and take out the trash!! That is why the dog and the cat and animals that produce their own "C" hardly ever get sick with anything. For example in a goat, if it gets attacked by some outside bacteria in its food, its liver can in an hour or so produce as much as 100 grams of "C" or more which cleans up the mess, and goat keeps on eating and does not get sick. Humans have no mechanism to be able to unleash that much disease fighting power in such a short time and as a result.. die by the millions. Lack of the capability to produce our own "C" has resulted in hundreds of millions of deaths, and makes us vulnerable to every disease that comes along. There is an enzyme that if it could be provided to the liver would enable the body to make as much "C" as needed on a moments notice. Early cancerous cell, viruses, bacteria.. all could be wiped out before they get a chance to multiply and spread. This is one the drug companies will NEVER put 10 cents into research on, because it WOULD put the greedy bastards out of business. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 11644427 United States10/20/2012 12:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I've tried several times to make this; didn't work. You need a higher impact / pressure, than to just have c in the presence of lecithin with vibrating water. The real result comes when you injest a lot and get the usual squirts from bowel in-tolerance. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 25601325 United States10/22/2012 10:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I've tried several times to make this; didn't work. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11644427 You need a higher impact / pressure, than to just have c in the presence of lecithin with vibrating water. The real result comes when you injest a lot and get the usual squirts from bowel in-tolerance. Works fine. Dissolve the C into the lecithin. |
| SE User ID: 1673157  Canada10/25/2012 04:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I've tried several times to make this; didn't work. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11644427 You need a higher impact / pressure, than to just have c in the presence of lecithin with vibrating water. The real result comes when you injest a lot and get the usual squirts from bowel in-tolerance. Works fine. Dissolve the C into the lecithin. You CAN NOT dissolve the L-Ascorbic Acid into the Lecithin! It must be done in an Ultrasonic Cleaner (a company called GemOro makes inexpensive ones that deliver a powerful 42,000Hz). The Ultrasonic cleaner forces the Lecithin (and Choline and inositol) to bind like a spikey fat case around the L-Ascorbic Acid molecules. The Lecithin acts as an enteric coating allowing it to pass the destructive stomach fluids (acid and enzymes) and then instead of being treated as L-Ascorbic Acid it is treated by the liver enzymes as a FAT! The liver's fat digesting enzymes breaks off the lecithin coating and the vitamin-C (L-ascorbic acid, or L-ascorbate if you've neutralized the PH (6-7) with Baking Soda/Sodium Bicarbonate) is released and allowed to pass freely into the bloodstream intead of being flushed out the intestines (as diarrhea) and/or immediately passed to the renal system for excretion. By comparison, a 20,000 mg (20 gram) dose of Liposomal L-Ascorbic Acid will result in about a 90% absorbtion where a 20,000 mg (20 gram) dose of normal L-Ascorbic Acid will result in less than 12% absortion! It is also found to be more effective if you convert the L-Ascorbic acid (vitamin-C) to L-Ascorbate by adding a slightly larger quantity of baking soda than L-Ascorbic Acid. If you add a level tablespoon of L-Ascorbic acid you want to add a slightly heaping tablespoon of PURE Sodium Bicarbonate. It is easiest to dissolve the L-Ascorbic Acid in about 1-2 Oz of distilled water and the Sodium Bicarbonate in 2 Oz of water then SLOWLY pour the Sodium Bicarbonate solution into the L-Ascorbic Acid solution... it will bubble and fizz as the acid is neutralize and the L-Ascorbate salt is formed. Then you would add the L-Ascorbate solution to the Lecithin in the Ultrasonic Cleaner and cycle for about 20 minutes total. Last Edited by SE on 10/25/2012 04:52 PM |
| SE User ID: 1673157 Canada10/25/2012 05:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Found a good page on Liposome science with some easy to understand diagrams and simple language descriptions for the non-chemist. [link to www.livonlabs.com] and a link to more research studies on Liposome transport at the same site [link to www.livonlabs.com] |
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| SE User ID: 1673157 Canada10/25/2012 06:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Seriously!?! No there is not! That's some hooey advertising not science! Yes I give a big BULLSHIT to Dr. Kim and those suckered by that ad for acerola cherries! You can consume all the 'natural state' powdered acerola cherries (LOL to natural state powder!) you want and your body will not ABSORB any more L-ASCORBIC ACID (vitamin-C) from it into your bloodstream (as shown by blood serum level tests!) than any other form unless it is using a Liposome-encased transport. That's science TRUTH! Last Edited by SE on 10/25/2012 06:24 PM |
| SE User ID: 1673157 Canada10/25/2012 06:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ok.. let's clarify! :) the point of the VITAMIN-C is NOT the vitamin-C!! It is the cellular apoptosis of cancer cells from the oxidative stress of the resultant H2O2! Which is WHY you require the high blood serum concentrations ( >20 mmol/L) of Ascorbic Acid. Which you can ONLY get from: Intravenous Ascorbic Acid solution (a lab prepared injection of water, sodium bicarbonate and L-ascorbic acid) OR ingested Liposome transport Ascorbic Acid! |
| SE User ID: 1673157 Canada10/25/2012 07:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I've tried several times to make this; didn't work. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11644427 You need a higher impact / pressure, than to just have c in the presence of lecithin with vibrating water. The real result comes when you injest a lot and get the usual squirts from bowel in-tolerance. Try it again with the protocol above where you neutralize the Ascorbic Acid into Ascorbate with Sodium Bicarbonate (pure baking soda). You'll find the solution to be more homogenous and stable after the ultrasonic treatment. It is also not going to dangerously acidify your blood ph level! You also must keep the final product in the refrigerator and out of exposure to sunlight (through windows etc)! |
| SE User ID: 1673157 Canada10/26/2012 12:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | found what may be the easiest way to get your Ascorbate and Lecithin. From NOW Foods. [link to www.nowfoods.com] Sodium Ascorbate Powder - 3 lbs Item#: 0762 Manufacturer SKU: 733739007629 [link to www.nowfoods.com] Lecithin Granules (NON-GMO) Item#: 2262 Manufacturer SKU: 733739022622 Here's the protocol to Liposomal Sodium Ascorbate mix a level tablespoon of Sodium Ascorbate in 2 Oz distilled water mix 3 level tablespoons of Lecithin in 1 cup of distilled water (chill the mix in fridge for at least 4 hours). Remove the Lecithin mix from the fridge and Pour the two solutions together into your blender and blend for 30 seconds. Pour the single solution into the Ultrasonic Cleaner and cycle for 20 minutes. DONE! Store in sealed mason jar or sealed brown glass container in refrigerator. Dose would be 2 oz at least twice daily NOTE: this will slightly raise your sodium levels for those on sodium restricted diets - consult your physician for monitoring of sodium levels. Last Edited by SE on 10/26/2012 12:34 AM |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 26103646 United States10/26/2012 06:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Seriously!?! No there is not! That's some hooey advertising not science! Yes I give a big BULLSHIT to Dr. Kim and those suckered by that ad for acerola cherries! You can consume all the 'natural state' powdered acerola cherries (LOL to natural state powder!) you want and your body will not ABSORB any more L-ASCORBIC ACID (vitamin-C) from it into your bloodstream (as shown by blood serum level tests!) than any other form unless it is using a Liposome-encased transport. That's science TRUTH! Here that was the wrong link. Research all these and see for yourself. Real vitamin C found in whole foods like fruits and vegetables contains the following components: Rutin Bioflavonoids (vitamin P) Factor K Factor J Factor P Tyrosinase Ascorbinogen Ascorbic Acid [link to drbenkim.com] |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 26327178  United Kingdom10/26/2012 06:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Vitamin C Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23393274 is not a "Vitamin" at all. It is supposed to be a "liver metabolite", which humans lostthe ability to produce when the gene for the production of a specific liver enzyme mutated probably as a result of radiation from the explosion of a super-novae several million years ago. Only most primates, some birds, and the guinea pig were affected. In animals that were not affected, when there is a disease or infection or injury, the liver immediately produces huge quantities of "C".. it is the first line of defense against anything that affects the body..the immune system then steps in and cleans up the remaining fragments. In humans, the immune system is immediately overtaxed because its only designed to shine the floors not sweep and take out the trash!! That is why the dog and the cat and animals that produce their own "C" hardly ever get sick with anything. For example in a goat, if it gets attacked by some outside bacteria in its food, its liver can in an hour or so produce as much as 100 grams of "C" or more which cleans up the mess, and goat keeps on eating and does not get sick. Humans have no mechanism to be able to unleash that much disease fighting power in such a short time and as a result.. die by the millions. Lack of the capability to produce our own "C" has resulted in hundreds of millions of deaths, and makes us vulnerable to every disease that comes along. There is an enzyme that if it could be provided to the liver would enable the body to make as much "C" as needed on a moments notice. Early cancerous cell, viruses, bacteria.. all could be wiped out before they get a chance to multiply and spread. This is one the drug companies will NEVER put 10 cents into research on, because it WOULD put the greedy bastards out of business. wow nice info thanks ;D |
| SE User ID: 1673157 Canada10/26/2012 06:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Seriously!?! No there is not! That's some hooey advertising not science! Yes I give a big BULLSHIT to Dr. Kim and those suckered by that ad for acerola cherries! You can consume all the 'natural state' powdered acerola cherries (LOL to natural state powder!) you want and your body will not ABSORB any more L-ASCORBIC ACID (vitamin-C) from it into your bloodstream (as shown by blood serum level tests!) than any other form unless it is using a Liposome-encased transport. That's science TRUTH! Here that was the wrong link. Research all these and see for yourself. Real vitamin C found in whole foods like fruits and vegetables contains the following components: Rutin Bioflavonoids (vitamin P) Factor K Factor J Factor P Tyrosinase Ascorbinogen Ascorbic Acid [link to drbenkim.com] You are totally missing the point friend! NO MATTER HOW MUCH VITAMIN C YOU INGEST... "Ben Kim's real C" or otherwise, except liposomal transport, you CAN NOT achieve the cancer fighting beneficial oxidative stress blood serum concentrations!! You can ingest 100,000 grams of Ben Kim's C and all you'll get is is a very low blood serum concentration level and diarrhea! The point of C in cancer fighting (radioactive iodine sweeping and h202 oxidative stressing) is to have an ingestable that provides blood serum concentration that rivals INJECTION levels! The **ONLY** way to achieve blood serum concentrations that rival injection is with liposomal transport! Last Edited by SE on 10/26/2012 06:54 PM |
| Giftedest User ID: 10743044 United States10/26/2012 07:02 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I watched the first video a while back and bought the Harbor Freight ultrasonic cleaner (it's close by). That U.C. worked great the first time, just the way they describe, when the foam goes away it's mixed well. After the first use, it never foamed up or the foam never went away and the mix completely separated. Just FYI, get the cheap US unit at your own risk, it's 30.00. A 70.00 or higher unit will still pay its self off in the long run, assuming you keep making and taking it. BTW, I've had no, er... 'digestion' related problems with large doses of C using this process. Who does your thinking? |
| steeler User ID: 1568805 United States10/26/2012 07:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I've tried several times to make this; didn't work. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11644427 You need a higher impact / pressure, than to just have c in the presence of lecithin with vibrating water. The real result comes when you injest a lot and get the usual squirts from bowel in-tolerance. I make it all the time,it is not a problem,it's encapsulated bowel tolerance,also not a problem viking** |
| steeler User ID: 1568805 United States10/26/2012 07:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I've tried several times to make this; didn't work. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11644427 You need a higher impact / pressure, than to just have c in the presence of lecithin with vibrating water. The real result comes when you injest a lot and get the usual squirts from bowel in-tolerance. I make it all the time,it is not a problem,it's encapsulated bowel tolerance,also not a problem How you check your mixture.. First, pour about 4 ounces of your finished Vitamin C encapsulate into a cylindrical, 12 ounce water glass. Next, place 1/4 teaspoon of sodium bicarbonate into about 1 ounce of distilled water and stir for 3 to 5 seconds. Next, pour the sodium bicarbonate solution into the Vitamin C mixture and stir gently for several seconds. Note: If the foam/bubble line which forms on top is 1/2 inch or less—in height—you have about a 50% encapsulation efficiency. If the foam/bubble line is 3/8 of one inch…or less, you have about a 60% efficiency. If the foam/bubble line is 1/8 inch or less, you have about 75% efficiency. If the foam/bubble line is just a trace…..you should major in chemistry. viking** |
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| Giftedest User ID: 10743044 United States11/08/2012 08:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Liposomal encapsulated vitamin C also COMPLETELY reduced my alcohol cravings. After a week of not remotely desiring my evening beer beverage I looked into it... Alcoholic recommendations add thiamin, B complex and others in very high doses, because serious alcoholics usually replace eating with drinking so they need more supplementation. The effect was immediate and "LEV-C" was the only thing I had changed in my diet, made it just to test my new jewelry cleaner. No clue what dose I'm taking, a couple/few Tbs a couple few times per day, not sure of the degree of encapsulation either. I've taken as many as 4 Tbs at a time without the slightest hint of gastrointestinal trouble... and my pee isn't vitamin C colored yellow! (those who know, know) Who does your thinking? |
| Unit3 User ID: 9834739 United States01/08/2013 11:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Vitamin C Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23393274 is not a "Vitamin" at all. It is supposed to be a "liver metabolite", which humans lostthe ability to produce when the gene for the production of a specific liver enzyme mutated probably as a result of radiation from the explosion of a super-novae several million years ago. Only most primates, some birds, and the guinea pig were affected. In animals that were not affected, when there is a disease or infection or injury, the liver immediately produces huge quantities of "C".. it is the first line of defense against anything that affects the body..the immune system then steps in and cleans up the remaining fragments. In humans, the immune system is immediately overtaxed because its only designed to shine the floors not sweep and take out the trash!! That is why the dog and the cat and animals that produce their own "C" hardly ever get sick with anything. For example in a goat, if it gets attacked by some outside bacteria in its food, its liver can in an hour or so produce as much as 100 grams of "C" or more which cleans up the mess, and goat keeps on eating and does not get sick. Humans have no mechanism to be able to unleash that much disease fighting power in such a short time and as a result.. die by the millions. Lack of the capability to produce our own "C" has resulted in hundreds of millions of deaths, and makes us vulnerable to every disease that comes along. There is an enzyme that if it could be provided to the liver would enable the body to make as much "C" as needed on a moments notice. Early cancerous cell, viruses, bacteria.. all could be wiped out before they get a chance to multiply and spread. This is one the drug companies will NEVER put 10 cents into research on, because it WOULD put the greedy bastards out of business. Do you happen to know what the enzyme is? Thanks. "We are the music makers. And we are the dreamers of dreams." Willy Wonka |
| Unit3 User ID: 9834739 United States01/08/2013 11:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | found what may be the easiest way to get your Ascorbate and Lecithin. Quoting: SE From NOW Foods. [link to www.nowfoods.com] Sodium Ascorbate Powder - 3 lbs Item#: 0762 Manufacturer SKU: 733739007629 [link to www.nowfoods.com] Lecithin Granules (NON-GMO) Item#: 2262 Manufacturer SKU: 733739022622 Here's the protocol to Liposomal Sodium Ascorbate mix a level tablespoon of Sodium Ascorbate in 2 Oz distilled water mix 3 level tablespoons of Lecithin in 1 cup of distilled water (chill the mix in fridge for at least 4 hours). Remove the Lecithin mix from the fridge and Pour the two solutions together into your blender and blend for 30 seconds. Pour the single solution into the Ultrasonic Cleaner and cycle for 20 minutes. DONE! Store in sealed mason jar or sealed brown glass container in refrigerator. Dose would be 2 oz at least twice daily NOTE: this will slightly raise your sodium levels for those on sodium restricted diets - consult your physician for monitoring of sodium levels. No way am I using NOW brand. Anybody know of another brand? "We are the music makers. And we are the dreamers of dreams." Willy Wonka |
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| RD47 User ID: 29766184 United States01/12/2013 12:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here is a video I made with a good friend explaining how to make 'liquid vitamin C'. Click 'Show More' and formula and instructions are shown. [link to www.youtube.com]  |
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| Pay it forward User ID: 21246624 United States01/12/2013 12:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Try Health Force Truly Vitamin C. Do a StartPage search or find here at iHerb.com: [link to www.iherb.com] Most of the isolated and/or synthetic vitamin C consumed is unused by the body. What's worse, it puts a negative strain on your liver and kidneys to excrete it, and it is quite acid forming in the body! If a vitamin C is an ingredient of a product, it is synthetic and/or isolated. If it is naturally contained in the ingredient(s), it is naturally occurring (as it is in our product)! Ascorbic Acid and Calcium Ascorbate are synthetic/isolated forms of Vitamin C. "Ester-C" has a few elements added back to an isolated vitamin C molecule and is therefore more absorbable than Ascorbic Acid or Calcium Ascorbate. However, Truly Natural Vitamin CTM has all of the naturally occurring elements synergistically present and bonded (including naturally occurring bioflavonoids) because it is 100% food (100% Acerola Cherry Powder). Other products sometimes give the illusion of being totally or partially whole food products, but in reality, they actually are not! There are many "Vitamin C with rose hips and acerola" type products out there. Every one of those products we have seen has a very small amount of rose hips and/or acerola with a whopping amount of synthetic and/or isolated Vitamin C! Vitamin C mixed with whole foods is not the same as vitamin C contained in whole foods. The superfoods added "on the side" are good for you, but not the main ingredients or the supplement as a whole! Get your Vitamin C the way nature truly intended! |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 17077087 United States01/12/2013 01:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Try Health Force Truly Vitamin C. Do a StartPage search or find here at iHerb.com: Quoting: Pay it forward 21246624 [link to www.iherb.com] Most of the isolated and/or synthetic vitamin C consumed is unused by the body. What's worse, it puts a negative strain on your liver and kidneys to excrete it, and it is quite acid forming in the body! If a vitamin C is an ingredient of a product, it is synthetic and/or isolated. If it is naturally contained in the ingredient(s), it is naturally occurring (as it is in our product)! Ascorbic Acid and Calcium Ascorbate are synthetic/isolated forms of Vitamin C. "Ester-C" has a few elements added back to an isolated vitamin C molecule and is therefore more absorbable than Ascorbic Acid or Calcium Ascorbate. However, Truly Natural Vitamin CTM has all of the naturally occurring elements synergistically present and bonded (including naturally occurring bioflavonoids) because it is 100% food (100% Acerola Cherry Powder). Other products sometimes give the illusion of being totally or partially whole food products, but in reality, they actually are not! There are many "Vitamin C with rose hips and acerola" type products out there. Every one of those products we have seen has a very small amount of rose hips and/or acerola with a whopping amount of synthetic and/or isolated Vitamin C! Vitamin C mixed with whole foods is not the same as vitamin C contained in whole foods. The superfoods added "on the side" are good for you, but not the main ingredients or the supplement as a whole! Get your Vitamin C the way nature truly intended! can you make liposomal with it? |
