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grizzy Reincarnation is a lie. If you would like to know more from a biblical point of view here is the story of the rich man and Lazarus.

THE TRAP... [link to www.chick.com]
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Thanks jc.

What jc is giving us in this post is one of the ways which the universe works.

It is the way God's law of KARMA works.

And it is the reason for our continual reincarnations to this planet, in often what seem like meaningless lives.

THE UNIVERSE RETURNS TO US WHAT WE SEND OUT. That's karma!

All we have to do to change our lives is to be careful of the thoughts we allow to enter our mind.

That's why for some, or even for all, it is a good idea to 'pray without ceasing'.

Keep that mind occupied with Christ minded thoughts.

THAT WAY YOU DON'T GIVE YOUR EGO ANYTHING TO WORK WITH AGAINST YOU.

And for those who are not quite ready, that's OK too, God gives us unlimited chances to learn the way back to Him.

The time will come when all will see that the material world offers nothing important.

Especially because we are SPIRITUAL BEINGS!

And we came to this world for a special reason, but not to stay here forever.

We don't belong here, we ALL belong on the higher spiritual realms.

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Great reply, thanks!

When one returns to the Center, to the Present, their whole life is lived "praying without ceasing". They are simply choosing to do it Consciously.

In truth everyone is praying without ceasing. But what have you been praying for? What have you been sending out into the formless to be made manifest? Your life is an exact reflection of this. If you are full of doubt, the "universe" will reflect back to you plenty of reasons, plenty of "proof" to seemingly confirm your belief.

That "groove" so many seemingly find themselves stuck in is only because they do not change. If you wish to get unstuck you must change, stop playing the same tune over and over and over.

With every thought/command you create, the "without" changes to a degree to reflect it back to you. In fact the "without" is constantly changing because of this, even in the "groove". It is never the same.

When you begin to consciously create your reality, through prayer, through affirmations, degree by degree the "without" begins to change, to mirror it back to you. The greater your faith the greater it is done to you.

What you do with this understanding is up to you. You can certainly use it to become a better "person". But the Real Prize is when the "person" is transcended. When you return to your True heritage as a Son/Daughter of the Most High.
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You can read all of the spiritual books in all the libraries in the world. You can sit at the feet of a Master and listen to Her words of wisdom all day long and not get anywhere. You must Change. You must LIVE IT.

You must recreate "yourself" to get out of the groove that you find yourself seemingly stuck in. And you do that in the Present, the Now. Time is an illusion. It does not exist, despite appearances to the contrary. NOW is all there is. It is the same Eternal Moment that has always been. In your present "life" you "think" you were born XX number of years ago. Actually you were "born" right NOW. All your "lives" have been experienced in this exact same, Eternal Moment of NOW. It is actually the same moment when "God" first contemplated "Itself", and Creation has been an ongoing process "ever since".

To get out of the groove get out of "time". Return to the Present and take your Power back. Recreate Yourself anew with Change. And as you do that the old shall indeed pass away. The nightmare will end. The King will have returned to the Throne.
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To take your thoughts and extend them to include some other important observations;
In ACIM it says this about the past....'THE ONLY TRUE THING ABOUT THE PAST IS THAT IT IS NO LONGER HERE.'

And that is also true because each of us has an ego which manipulates our mind and whatever else we see.

And even if many people happen to see and witness the same exact situation happen before them at the same time, often they will each have a different interpretation of what it is that happened.

One of the reasons is that we cannot know the true perception of anything here, because we are here living in this material world which gives us limitations.

Only the Holy Spirit/Christ self has True Perception of everything.

We can ONLY see a limited perception of whatever happens, because we see from one limited viewpoint, and our perceptions are influenced by our own past experiences.
Our past actually colors whatever we see in the present.

So each of us is viewing whatever we see not totally from what it actually reveals to us, but also from what we mix with it, which is brought from our past experiences and memories, and perhaps even from some distant memory of past lives.
Its pretty complicated here. Its like a deep jungle.

Because that ego works like a filter which makes us see whatever it wants to see, even if it is totally contrary to what actually happened.

And the ego, and the dark forces feel threatened by any REAL SPIRITUAL TRUTH, so that truth will be changed and misrepresented to keep us under its control.

Look what they did with Jesus' original teaching, and how they deliberately made an "IDOL" of him and his life so that he would seem too different and "special" and keep him separate from us. And not someone we should even think of trying to follow, to learn to be like he was.

Then they go and portray him as an IDOL of a dead man nailed to a cross.

And people have carried that frightful image with them, instead of Jesus' true message of resurrection and eternal life given to us by a loving God.

God sent Jesus to live his life as we do, so that we could follow his path and ascend to the higher spiritual levels as he showed us we could, by following what he did, and what he said we could also do.

But he is back and now he is teaching us from his website.


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This is sooooooo true, thank you! (:
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We made the ego, and when we see through the ego we make an 'image' of ourselves, and then we also make an 'image' of everyone else.

And when we think we are interacting with others we are often mixing our images of that person which are images we made, with the truth of that person, and we get something that is mostly untrue.
And then we form an 'opinion' or judgment of people and things based on these faulty methods of observing.

And when we are in that control by our ego, we don't see others as unique individual creations of God, who are all a manifestation of God, instead we see the 'image' we made of that 'person' as if it actually was the real person.
And we end up interacting with that image instead of the real person.

What is the real me, and you?

It isn't the ego. The ego is not even real. Its an illusion.

What is real can only be the part of us that is always connected to God.

And Jesus says our conscious self is connected to God but it loses its way when it starts experiencing itself as the ego manipulates it to see.

Therefore we, through our conscious self (which chooses for us) have to learn to choose to be guided by the Teacher and Guide God gave to us when He saw we had made the ego.

When God saw that we had made the ego, immediately He knew that would be trouble for us, and we would not find our way back Home to Him, and so immediately He gave us His Own Voice to be with us in our minds; which is the Holy Spirit/ Christ self to guide us back to Him.

Jesus is teaching us with his discourses available on his website how to connect to our Christ self.

And there are also books from him which I am also studying.

But we have to learn about and know these things about us or else they only remain potentials in us.
As they have been for countless lives. We have to wake up.
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:grizzy: Reincarnation is a lie. If you would like to know more from a biblical point of view here is the story of the rich man and Lazarus.

THE TRAP... [link to www.chick.com]
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Nice cartoon.

Man created Hell NOT GOD. "Hell" is the result of Mans mis-thinking. All of the pain, suffering, torment, and anguish (in greater or lesser degrees) is the result of believing oneself to be strictly "human", of believing oneself to be separate from God- and all of the thoughts and actions that come forth from that false belief.

When an "evil" "person" "dies" they find them self in a place where their thoughts, their beliefs, the sum total of what they created them self to be in their "life" on Earth are made manifest much more quickly. That would certainly seem like "Hell" would it not?

Yet the only one "punishing" them is them self. Certainly not God, as some think of God being.

No, "Hell" is on Earth, as well as the so called afterlife, and only exists as a direct manifestation of Man's mis-creation.

"Hell" is on "your" side of that wall. "Heaven" is on Gods side. Tear down that wall!
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To take your thoughts and extend them to include some other important observations;
In ACIM it says this about the past....'THE ONLY TRUE THING ABOUT THE PAST IS THAT IT IS NO LONGER HERE.'

And that is also true because each of us has an ego which manipulates our mind and whatever else we see.

And even if many people happen to see and witness the same exact situation happen before them at the same time, often they will each have a different interpretation of what it is that happened.

One of the reasons is that we cannot know the true perception of anything here, because we are here living in this material world which gives us limitations.

Only the Holy Spirit/Christ self has True Perception of everything.

We can ONLY see a limited perception of whatever happens, because we see from one limited viewpoint, and our perceptions are influenced by our own past experiences.
Our past actually colors whatever we see in the present.

So each of us is viewing whatever we see not totally from what it actually reveals to us, but also from what we mix with it, which is brought from our past experiences and memories, and perhaps even from some distant memory of past lives.
Its pretty complicated here. Its like a deep jungle.

Because that ego works like a filter which makes us see whatever it wants to see, even if it is totally contrary to what actually happened.

And the ego, and the dark forces feel threatened by any REAL SPIRITUAL TRUTH, so that truth will be changed and misrepresented to keep us under its control.

Look what they did with Jesus' original teaching, and how they deliberately made an "IDOL" of him and his life so that he would seem too different and "special" and keep him separate from us. And not someone we should even think of trying to follow, to learn to be like he was.

Then they go and portray him as an IDOL of a dead man nailed to a cross.

And people have carried that frightful image with them, instead of Jesus' true message of resurrection and eternal life given to us by a loving God.

God sent Jesus to live his life as we do, so that we could follow his path and ascend to the higher spiritual levels as he showed us we could, by following what he did, and what he said we could also do.

But he is back and now he is teaching us from his website.


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Most excellent thoughts T of G. I couldn't have said it better Myself.
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Here is some information about the removal of Jesus' teaching of reincarnation from the New Testament.

Talks about Justinian and his wife Theodora who actually insisted on its removal.


check it out, its interesting.

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Funny thing about Love. Go ask 10 people if they love themselves. What do you think their answers will be? 10 for 10?

But if you were to follow each one of them around and observe them for a while, to observe their thoughts even, what do you think you will see? How many times in one day alone will they betray their answer? Better yet why not spend a day observing Your thoughts, words, and actions and see how many times you do the same? Dozens? Hundreds of times?

When the personality says that they love them self what they are really saying is "I Want to love myself". But "wanting" anything is Really saying that you DON'T have it. So don't want, BE. Don't try, DO. Make sure that everything you create is in alignment with your ideal by consciously staying in the Present.

Are you worth loving? GOD YES.
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This is sooooooo true, thank you! (:
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You are welcome! From "both" of us I am sure.
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T of G and jc, thank you for your posts. That resonating thing hits me with your conversation here. I have had that "inner voice" speak to me about the entrance of the Ascended Masters through portals/stargates that are opened and held open by incarnated beings, (humans on this side) here on Earth. Recently I have come to the revelation that the purpose of my incarnation relates to this. If you could expand upon this subject, or point me to some more material about it, I would appreciate it. I have recently found information that not only relates this to me, but random things I have experienced earlier in dreams and visions have found a home in this purpose.

We are creative beings. Every moment is an act of creation, EVERY moment. That is why living in Present Awareness is so vitally important. For when our thoughts live in the past or the future, this creative action is in "chaos", or uncontrolled. Present Awareness brings focus and order to your creations, causing a dramatic increase in magnitude of the creation. The focus and intensity of your mantras or prayers is an example of the abilities of you as a creative being creating in the creative power of "now". Creation and subsequent reflection and/or experience of that creation continues the creative process. Take hold of this. Partake in your conscious evolution.
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Thank you very much for your post and kind words.

I hope you will continue to give us more posts with your ideas about this subject and related ideas on this thread.

I appreciate jc's ideas and wish others would share their thoughts to help us all learn more about ourselves.

This is an important subject that others who may be ready for it, need to learn about more it, and I will give any information I can to help encourage others to what it has done for me in my experience.

I also know that its most important for others to know where this information is coming from so they can go and receive it from the Source as I am.
And its coming from the Living Jesus himself, not something found in a book and said by him at another time to people of that time.
He is speaking to us now with what we need to know now.

Yes, what you mention as portals is 'us', we who decide to become the "open doors" for the Ascended Hosts to bring their power to Earth.

I think I might have explained it a bit as I understand it in an earlier post, but its worth repeating.

Jesus says that many of us are here at this particular time for this exact reason.
You will find more about this on Jesus' website, and from his discourses.

Since God gave us the law of FREE-WILL, none are to interfere with us on this our planet Earth unless a certain percentage of us give our permission that we want help. And when that percentage of people is reached then Jesus and the Ascended Host can make the necessary positive changes to our planet and even remove the destructive evil dark forces that are causing these problems.

The dark evil forces don't seem to abide by God's law, and they do often interfere in our lives.
Jesus gives us powerful prayer that take care of that problem.

And you may be interested to know, that each day we, who have decided to be a part of this help by being the 'open doors,' can do the decrees that Jesus and the Ascended Hosts give us for that month.
This month there are 4 decrees that are said aloud, and although it may be difficult for us to understand how by us saying what is in the decrees, that anything powerful and healing can actually come through us and happen to make the needed changes here. (decrees are like prayers in poem form)

I can sort of understand how they can bring a POWER from another world to us, because as I have mentioned in earlier posts that I have done spiritual healing for people with conditions that doctors could not help at all, and many of those people, even some animals, were waiting to go through their final days.

And after the healing was done, by me by maintaining a certain state of mind and saying certain words of prayer which had meaning to me, within two two or three days their conditions changed and their problems disappeared.

I knew then that the healing for them was coming from the Holy Spirit because that is Who I was taught was Who I was to ask for the help.
And I certainly didn't know how to heal them. And in most I didn't even want them to tell me exactly what their problem was. I didn't want that to be in my mind and possibly interfere with their healing.

And I made all aware of this fact whoever asked me to help them. I told them that their healing was done by the Holy Spirit, and I only was to do my part in order to make that happen.

And that is sort of what I think happens when we decide to become the OPEN DOORS, we make an opening for the Ascended Hosts to bring the POWER OF HEAVEN to Earth through us.

I hope I didn't confuse anyone by my explanation, but its clear to me.



In fact, in order to find where he explains that, you might find it easier if you go to the home page of his website and on that page is a place you can ask any question you may have, and you will be directed to the discourse where what you asked for is discussed.

[link to www.askrealjesus.com]

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If any of you still have any doubts about the fact of REINCARNATION, this very interesting short video will very likely change your mind as much as anything else might.

I watched it many times and enjoy it each time. Its terrific!

[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]



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This is sooooooo true, thank you! (:
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What's also important is that you recognize it!

That means you are ready too.

Thanks for your post.

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There is not one thing Jesus said (speaking of the Bible here) that is not worthy of your attention. And even though much was purposely removed, what remains is fortunately mostly accurate.

He was showing humanity the way Home. The right way To Live to get there, the way to reconnect with God Within. And He did a Masterful job of it. Despite the fact that the people of the "time" were so steeped in ignorance and superstition.

I highly recommend that you read or reread His words in the Bible. I also recommend that you check out the site that my friend T of G has mentioned. But please, let go of any cynicism or doubt, simply lay that aside for a time and read with an open mind and Heart. Just because something appears to be "false" to you at first does not make it so. With all things judge not, allow. Trust God, Trust Yourself.

Ask for assistance, for help, in sincere Faith and HOLD IT. Indeed keep that request always on your mind. You will NEVER be disappointed if you do.
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Some fancy they want money, a big house, a lucrative career, or fame, the list is endless. But these are just illusions of the personality. And there is nothing "wrong" with any of these things mind you, just realize they are illusions. There is something far more valuable to be attained, in fact it is priceless. Why be a court attendant, or a jester, when you can be the King.

Take fame. Why do some people want to be famous? Have you ever had the desire to be someone famous? Maybe a movie star, or a sports hero, or a politician (dear God I just had to throw that one in!). But why? Have you ever noticed how some (not all, judge not) famous people seem to crave the attention? You probably know some non-famous people who do the same thing. You know, they have a gazillion friends, they are always doing something, they can't stand to be alone with them self. Why? Because they don't love them self. And they think the only way to deal with that seeming emptiness inside is to fill their lives with "others", with constantly "doing" something, anything.

When one loves them self, I mean REALLY Loves them self, really accepts it from the Heart Center, the funny thing is they no longer crave the attention of "others". A Master is perfectly ok with being alone. In fact they prefer it.

When one accepts/realizes/Knows that they are Loved, the need for attention disappears. The need for anything "out there" disappears. I LOVE MYSELF. Say it often. Say it with passion. Say it like you MEAN IT.
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Mer= Spirit Ka=Light Ba=Body
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Mer= Spirit Ka=Light Ba=Body
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You're nuts...
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Gods Creation is like a fractal, repeating itself for all Eternity. But whether "you" find yourself in the 100th repetition of that fractal or the 10th it doesn't matter. You are ALL OF IT. You are the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End. The Alpha and the Omega. (There are multiple meanings to this truth, multiple levels, multiple perspectives. Many great truths have multiple levels of meaning)

Contemplate matter, molecules. Scientists have peered down to the smallest of particles and have begun to realize that ALL MATTER is really just energy, light, vibration. They also have begun to discover that thought, consciousness, affects these very small particles. Actually it affects all matter, because matter IS consciousness.

What they are peering down to, IS THE BEGINNING, is the core, the Center of Everything. You are the "Nothing" that is Everything. You are the Alpha and the Omega.
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Omni-dimensional, not multi.
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You're nuts...
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Yes many, MANY thought Jesus was nuts, still do. Whoever you are referring to, just realize that what you "see", what you are judging, is nothing but the mirror of YOURSELF.
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You're nuts...
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Thank you for visiting here.
Maybe you will wake up soon.


Maybe this will do it for you:

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Well, whatever it takes, I'm just trying to wake us up.



Archangel Michael has billions of angels with him, and they are also here to help us.

Do you know what I mean?!


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I probably should have done this earlier in this thread, but I just thought about it and am doing it now.

And this following section of this post is part of a discourse you can find on Jesus' website regarding what he needs at least 10,000 of us for to help him and the Ascended Hosts with him.

This is also in his book called 'The Christ is Born in You', which I read and have in my computer now as an E-book.

I'm also studying now another of Jesus' books called "Master Keys to Personal Christhood" with an E-book.

alright here it is:

"The following discourse explains who Jesus is trying to reach with the teachings on this website. It also explains the very core of his true message, his inner message, that has been almost completely lost over the past 2,000 years. The discourse also explains why it is so crucial for people to rediscover Jesus' true message and apply this knowledge in our time.

Note: This discourse is an excerpt from a chapter in the book The Christ Is Born in You. You can read the entire chapter here.
The only possible solution to human problems


"Beloved hearts, to explain why I am pleading with you to make the decision to seek Christ consciousness, let me summarize what we have looked at so far.

We have seen that God has not created the current state of suffering, limitation and misery found on planet earth. Instead, human beings have created their own situation.

We have seen that there is only one possible solution to the problems found on planet earth. That solution is the Christ consciousness.

I have told you about the universal Christ consciousness. Yet, the solution to the problems of earth is not the universal Christ consciousness. The reason being that the universal Christ consciousness simply cannot enter this world.

God has created the law of free will, and no being in heaven will ever violate the free will of human beings. Therefore, the cosmic Christ consciousness itself simply cannot act in this world.

As a result, the key to changing the current situation on planet earth is not the universal Christ consciousness, but the individualized Christ consciousness. When I walked the earth, I expressed my individualized Christ consciousness in this world. I was, quite literally, the light of the world. It is true that I was completely united with the universal Christ consciousness. Yet, I still was not expressing the universal Christ mind. I was expressing my individualized Christ mind.

The essential point is that you cannot expect some spiritual force from heaven to suddenly descend and solve all of the problems on earth. You cannot expect that God or myself will suddenly appear in the sky and whisk away all of humankind’s problems.
This simply will not happen.

God can indeed solve all of the problems on earth, but God can only do so through his sons and daughters. God can only bring about change if you decide to be the instrument for bringing about change by putting on your personal Christhood.

When you consider the impact that my short mission has had on this planet, I think you can see the potential impact of thousands of Christed beings walking the earth.

I hold a very high and beautiful vision for this planet.
I hold the vision of 10,000 Christed beings in physical embodiment. I desire to give you a glimpse of my vision.

I see a large-scale and dramatic change in people’s consciousness. I see a large-scale awakening, whereby millions upon millions of people will come to a realization and a conscious acceptance of the spiritual side to life, their spiritual identity and their spiritual potential.

I see a vision of millions of people recognizing their potential to put on Christ consciousness. I see them making the conscious decision to put on that Christ consciousness and to engage in the spiritual path that will lead them to that goal.

I see the potential for a golden age of progress, peace and growth that will turn this planet into a bright star, as opposed to the dark star it is today.

However, I also see that for this to happen, people must have examples to follow. My example took place too long ago. Furthermore, the intense cult of idolatry built around the outer person of Jesus Christ makes it very difficult for people to identify with me and to see me as an example.
That is why I need you.


The call for 10,000 christed ones

I know that 10,000 people are prepared at inner levels to attain the full measure of Christ consciousness in this lifetime. Most of these people volunteered for this mission before they came into embodiment. Most of these people have not yet come to a conscious realization of their mission.

However, if those 10,000 people receive these teachings and accept my message, they can quickly rise to a high level of Christ consciousness. Thereby, they can become the shining examples that millions of other people can follow.

Most of these 10,000 souls have already attained a high level of Christ consciousness at inner levels. They simply need to come to a conscious acceptance of their inner attainment. Therefore, many of these people have the potential to go through a very swift and dramatic transformation from their current level of consciousness to a high degree of Christhood.

I can assure you that if 10,000 people manifested a high level of Christ consciousness and continued towards the full Christ consciousness, you would begin to see some very dramatic changes on planet earth.

I also know that millions of people are prepared at inner levels to come to a conscious acceptance of their potential to become the Christ. These people have already attained a certain level of Christ consciousness. They still have a ways to go to attain the full measure, but if they will make a sincere effort, it can be attained in this lifetime. I can assure you that if these millions of people were to receive these teachings, they would make an immense contribution to the positive change on planet earth......."

(you can read the rest of this discourse here:

[link to www.askrealjesus.com]

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Wow.. OP BIG THANKS ;DD

Really really well-put.. Ive read the 1st page, now Ill cotiniue..
Im positivley surprised to find what you wrote (:

Lately GLP is lacking REAL spiritual stuff, much dis-info out there, but too late, they canT get me anymore ;D

Continiue raising frequency of GLP, op, that helps a lot !

peace yo ONE LOVE

namaste
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If we are ALL from GOD Then why are we here? ALL of us would have those voices and those ideals in us. So if WE all came here for a reason then what was the reason. How did we fall asleep( thought wise)? If we fell asleep or were tricked in to forgetting then surely this is GODs issue as he made us and GOD is meant to be infallible.
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Rudysarof, these are all good questions you ask. But your reasoning is not quite right.


Read from the beginning of this thread, and you will see that some of your questions are addressed, and even solutions are discussed.

I will give you one answer that you ask a question for, but the rest of your questions I think have been answered by the posts in the previous pages.

We came here to learn to become more like God, our Father.

I see this world sort of like an important test which we have to pass in order to go onto the higher spiritual realms.

And Jesus says we have been here for thousands of lifetimes, sometime learning a little bit in each lifetime. And what we learn we bring with our soul to the next incarnation, and eventually we realize that the important thing in life is to find our way back to God, and the higher spiritual levels from which we came.

But we are not allowed to go there until we have purified our consciousness, by rejecting the our ego's manipulations and by learning to merge our soul with our Christ self.

And Jesus and the Ascended Hosts are all ready to help us just as soon as we decide that we have had enough of this world and want to learn all that we need to learn to make ourselves eligible to ascend to the higher spiritual levels.

And so we just try to share what has helped us on this thread so that others who are interested could also find their way back Home.

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Gods Creation is like a fractal, repeating itself for all Eternity. But whether "you" find yourself in the 100th repetition of that fractal or the 10th it doesn't matter. You are ALL OF IT. You are the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End. The Alpha and the Omega. (There are multiple meanings to this truth, multiple levels, multiple perspectives. Many great truths have multiple levels of meaning)

Contemplate matter, molecules. Scientists have peered down to the smallest of particles and have begun to realize that ALL MATTER is really just energy, light, vibration.
They also have begun to discover that thought, consciousness, affects these very small particles. Actually it affects all matter, because matter IS consciousness.

What they are peering down to, IS THE BEGINNING, is the core, the Center of Everything. You are the "Nothing" that is Everything. You are the Alpha and the Omega.
 Quoting: jc 25947914


jc, good thoughts.

Jesus gives a wonderful discourse on what the matter world is made of.

IT IS ENERGY AND LIGHT.

In the beginning there was ONLY God, and God decided to create the universe.

What could He make it out of, since in the beginning there was NOTHING but God?

He made it all out of Himself. So God is in every thing, because it is ALL made out of God.

We can ask our Christ self, which is the Presence of God's Wisdom in us, to awaken the inner memory that the material universe is an extension of the spiritual realm and has the potential to manifest God's kingdom on Earth.


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Even better is to get it completely right from Jesus in one of his discourses on what all creation really is made from:


"Who created the universe?


Question: This question may be complicated but I have a deep yearning to learn how did Jesus Christ create the universe and the laws of physics and science? Really how did the “word” who the Bible says is Jesus Christ create the cosmos? How is “the word” (Jesus Christ) intertwined in the laws of physics and science?

Answer from Jesus:

I very much welcome complicated questions, especially those that spring from a deep yearning to know the truth.

As I attempt to explain throughout this website, the true purpose of a spiritual teaching is not to bring a complete or infallible truth. It simply is not possible to explain the truth of God through the words found in the material universe. All words have more than one meaning and therefore mean different things to different people.

It is essential for spiritual seekers to recognize the limitations of words and therefore the inherent limitations of any spiritual teaching, including the Bible itself. Therefore, the mature spiritual seekers will be alert and avoid any risk of turning a spiritual teaching into an idol and dancing around it, like the Jews danced around the golden calf while Moses went to the mountain to experience the living truth of God.

I have explained some of the mechanics of how God created the universe in the following discourse. Let me say here that in the beginning was only God, meaning a state of pure Being. Then God became conscious of his own existence and said “I am.” God then realized himself as the creator and formed the decision to create a world out of himself, a world that had form.

The first aspect of creating anything is to create a mental image of what you want to create. You must have a blueprint, a matrix, an idea, a vision before you can create anything, at least anything that is sustainable. When you understand that God is a state of pure being, you realize that God truly is a state of consciousness. God is a conscious being and because there is nothing but God, he creates everything out of himself, meaning that he creates everything out of his own consciousness. Therefore, everything that was ever created by God is truly a manifestation of the consciousness of God.

So when God decided to create, the first act of creation was the creation of a state of consciousness which was able to hold the mental images of the forms God wanted to create. Because this state of consciousness was the first element of creation, one can call it the firstborn Son or the only begotten Son of the Father.

Please keep in mind that the words "Father" and "Son" were used by me 2,000 years ago, when I attempted to explain the process of creation to people that were in a far more primitive state of consciousness than the consciousness of most people in today's world. Therefore, my ability to explain the mysteries of creation was greatly limited by people’s state of consciousness, and I had to use words and images that were familiar to them.

I portrayed God as a loving father figure and I explained the Christ consciousness as the Son of God. In reality, God the Father is a state of consciousness and the Son of God is also a state of consciousness, namely what I would like to call the universal Christ consciousness.

So the first element of creation is a universal state of consciousness. This state of consciousness can hold the images, the blueprints, for any form ever created by God. At the same time, it maintains the awareness that the form originated in God and was created through the power of God. Therefore, even though the form appears different from the creator, it is fashioned from the very consciousness of the creator. In other words, the Christ consciousness alone knows the Father and knows that everything sprang from the Father." .......

the rest of this discourse is here:

[link to www.askrealjesus.com]


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Wow.. OP BIG THANKS ;DD

Really really well-put.. Ive read the 1st page, now Ill cotiniue..
Im positivley surprised to find what you wrote (:

Lately GLP is lacking REAL spiritual stuff, much dis-info out there, but too late, they canT get me anymore ;D

Continiue raising frequency of GLP, op, that helps a lot !

peace yo ONE LOVE

namaste
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Thank you for appreciating it and your kind thoughts.

My hope is to help others awaken also to Who we really are.


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We have to learn to awaken our INNER MEMORY to learn that we are more than our physical bodies.

Because inside that memory is the Truth of Who we are.

And so these things that I will say to you, if they are true for you, you will know it because they will resonate within that memory even though this world has so many ways to keep us from accessing that part of our memory.

And you will also learn that our EGO is our enemy’s biggest ally.

How can we do that? ............ That’s what I hope through this thread, to share with you, from what I am learning, so that we can all learn it, IF WE CHOOSE TO.

Then, I promise you, things become much more fun.
Especially when you learn Who will help each of us get through this.

Its probably impossible to do it all alone, therefore God has given us just the right Teachers and Helpers.
And as you learn Who they are it will amaze you.


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 Quoting: T of G 25944836


Thats were you are partly wrong.
The eror the new age systems teach us is that we must dismantle,kill,destroy our ego and that is fail.
You will have to will something hard enough for it to be so, without a ego you cant will anything, lost in the clouds.
Dont fall for it, your will to help someone is allso driven by your ego.
Drive your ego just dont let it drive you, but do not try to erase it then you will be in trouble.
hf

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