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ABOMINATION AND DESOLATION STUDY THREAD
THERE IS NO 7 YEAR OR 3 1/2 YR TRIBULATION THERE IS NO AC "A MAN" GOING TO SIT IN THE FATHER'S TEMPLE! WE HAVE BEEN IN THE TRIBULATION OVER A THOUSAND YEARS NOW..WE ARE AT THE END TIMES AND APPROACHING MESSIAHS'S COMING WRATH, WHICH IS THE GREAT AND DREADFUL DESTRUCTIVE DAY OF THE MOST HIGH EH'YEH! NOBODY WILL BE RAPTURED AWAY LIKE IN THE MOVIES "LEFT BEHIND". "NOBODY ELSE GOING TO HEAVEN BUT 144000 TO ALWAYS BE WITH MESSIAH IN REVELATION 14 AFTER THE 6TH SEAL".THEN THEY WILL RULE WITH HIM IN THE EARTH IN THE MILLEMIAL KINGDOM WITH THE LARGE MULTITUDE OF SAINTS OF ALL NATIONS KINDRENS AND TONGUES.

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YES!THEY ALL LAUGH AT YOU


The end of the sixth seal when the moon turns to blood and the sunis blood red at the appearing of messiah the riighteous dead will rise then those who are alive and livein obedience to his commands will be caught up and become immortal in the army to fight the wicked on the earth.

There is that lying doctrine out there circulating for centuries and we are all programmed to believe this.I ask of you to read and test the scriptures and be prepared everyday for the appearing of the messiah Yehshah

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FALSE DOCTRINES SEDUCED YOU?

NOTES & REFERENCE:"MUST READ BEFORE CONTINUING pdf"

THE PLOTTERS OF THE HOAX

Francisco Ribera was a Spanish doctor of theology who wrote a 500 page Latin commentary on Revelation (Apocalypse) entitled: In Sacrum Beati Ioannis Apostoli, & Evangelistiae Apocalypsin Commentarij, and published it about the year 1590....This commentary was never translated into any other language and was for the eyes of the hierarchy only!!


Many doubt these things because you were taught one way the catholic way but I present to you more evidence of this rapture hoax and one man antichrist hoax
[link to www.reformation.org]



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NOTES:Let is go to the book of 2nd baruch which explains about the second temple destruction so we can look at this from the foundation up.Baruch was told that the second temple will be destroyed and remain desolate until the new kingdom

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2ND BARUCH
2.Because after a little time the building of Zion will be shaken in order that it may again be built.
3.But that building will not remain, but will again after a time be rooted out, and will remain desolate until the time



WHAT DANIEL HAD TO SAY CONCERNING HIS PEOPLE

Firstly Daniel enquired about his people the hebrews and that is the vision he got, not the modern day church. When messiah was talking to the apostles he was referring to what will happen in their time as per Daniel's prohecy. He also gave the signs of his second coming and the events to expect at that future time..


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FROM THE OLD COVERDALE 1535 BIBLE DANIEL CHAPTER 9VERSE 27
Read it and understand and you will see the difference as compared to your modern bibles. You have been tricked to believe the gentile heretic dispensation of time doctrine.

Wherfore, pondre the matter well, that thou
mayest lerne, to understonde[understand] the vision. Lxx.
wekes[weeks] are determined ouer thy people, 5 ouer
thy holy cite[city] : that the wickednesse maye be
consumed, that the synne maye haue an ende,
that the offence maye be reconciled, and to
bringe in euerlastinge rightuousnesse, to fulfill
the visions and the prophetes, and to anoynte
the most holy one.

Vnderstode[understand] this then,
and marcke[mark] it well : that from the tyme it
shalbe concluded, to go and repayre Jerusalem
agayne, vnto Christ (or the anoynted) prynce
:
there shalbe seuen wekes. Then shall the
stretest and walles be buykled[built] agayne Ixij. wekes,
but with harde troublous tyme. Afther these
Ixij. wekes, shal Christ be slayne, 5 they shal
haue no pleasure in him. Then shal there
come a people with the prynce, and destroye the cite and the sanctuary : and his ende shall come as the water flood. But the desolacion shall continue till the ende of the battle.


NOTES:NERO – ...Roman emperor; born at Antium Dec. 15, 37 C.E.; died near Rome in 68. His original name was Lucius Domitius Ahenobarbus, but on being adopted by the emperor Claudius he was called Nero ...fierce rioting broke out between the jewish people and the Greeks in Cæsarea, the seat of the Roman procurators, both parties sent representatives to Rome. Nero'S END CAME LIKE A FLOOD,he committed suicide due to assasination attempts on his life and corruption

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He shall make a stronge bonde with many,
for the space of a weke[week] : and when the weke is half gone, he shal put downe the slayne
and meatoffringe. '' And in the temple there
shalbe an abhominable desolacion, till it haue
destroyed all
. And it is concluded, y this
waistinge shal continue vnto the ende.

NOTES:This time period have been misunderstood by many scholars pastors theologians.They were all tricked into learning this false interpretation by who else but rome and the false jewish people posing as chriStian scholars.From her on through this study I will connect the dots precept upon precept and line upon line. I hope it helps many who are looking for answers.

LET US WALK TOGETHER!
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The Book of Revelation
Chapter 11


1 And there was given me a reed like unto a rod: and the angel stood, saying, Rise, and measure the temple of God, and the altar, and them that worship therein.

2 But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months.


42 months = 1260 days
1 day = 1yr so 1260 years
1 Lunar month=30 days
1YR = 30 X 12= 360 days

So working back again to show you 3 1/2 years which are jubilee years we have 1260 regular years / 360 = 3.5 jubilees years



NOTES: Here we see the holy city treaded down again same three and a half years[1260 yrs] as in DANIEL Chapter 9 above.I will reference another instance in the book of luke to tie it all in and with historical facts from Encyclopedia Britannica


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REFERENCE TO REV CHP 11 & DANIEL CHP 9
The Book Of Luke Chapter 21
20 And when ye shall see Jerusalem compassed with armies, then know that the desolation thereof is nigh.

21 Then let them which are in Judaea flee to the mountains; and let them which are in the midst of it depart out; and let not them that are in the countries enter thereinto.

22
For these be the days of vengeance, that all things which are written may be fulfilled.
Hosea 9:7

23 But woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck, in those days! for there shall be great distress in the land, and wrath upon this people.

24 And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled.


Reference
The Book of Revelation
Chapter 11
2But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months.

Notes:
The time of the gentiles again in revelation we see it is 42 monhts

42 months = 1260 days
1 day = 1yr so 1260 years
1 Lunar month=30 days
1YR = 30 X 12= 360 days

So working back again to show you 3 1/2 years which are jubilee years we have 1260 regular years / 360 = 3.5 jubilees years




EXODUS

NOTES: Here we see IN the book of luke the holy city treaded down again same and people warned to flee judea when the armies were coming
This was telling of the children of Israel as related to luke chapter 21, to flee to the mountains when the armies were gathered around Israel.There was a remnant who obeyed and left but there were also those who decided to stay on and the Roman caesar Titus and his Father Vespesian slaughtered and captured butchered raped also enslaved the peoples.Those who fled sought refuge over the mountians into mitzraim and other Hamite countries known as Africa.The other captives were scattered through out the 4 corners of the earth as slaves.

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THE WARS ON THE JUES AS PER DANIEL CHP 9-LUKE CHP 21 & REV CHP 11

[link to www.roman-britain.org]
Titus - Imperator Titus Caesar Vespasianus Augustus (79-81)

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[b]•AD66 appointed commander of legio XV 'Apollinaris', serving under Vespasian in the Jewish war
•AD69 (early) won over Mucianus, governor of Syria, to the Flavian Cause.
•AD70 Imperator I.
•AD71 (June) returned to Rome
.


[link to www.roman-britain.org]
Vespasian - Imperator Vespasian Caesar Augustus (69-79)


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AD67 following the revolt in Judaea during which the governor was killed and the consular governor of Syria was routed and one of his eagles lost when he tried to lend assistance, it became necessary to send a considerable force to regain control of the province. Vespasian was chosen for two main reasons, firstly his considerable military experience and secondly his obscure family background, which Nero believed would keep him from seeking the purple himself; 'for no-one would presume to be emperor who was born of such lowly circumstances?'. [Suet. Ves. IV.5]

•AD69/07/01 proclaimed emperor by eastern legions at Alexandria, becomes: Imp. Titus Flavius Vespasianus Caesar

•01/07/AD69 Vespasian imperator I; Titus takes name, Titus Caesar Vespasianus

•AD69 (Aug.) Imp. Caesar Vespasianus Augustus

•20/12/AD69 Vespasian recognised by senate

•AD69 Vespasian winters at Alexandria

•AD70 Vespasian consul II imperator II-V; takes titles 'Pontifex Maximus' and 'Pater Patriae'; Titus Consul I
•26/09/AD70 Titus takes Jerusalem; Hailed imperator I



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Ten years after Herod's death (4 BCE), Judea came under direct Roman administration. Growing anger against increased Roman suppression of Jewish life resulted in sporadic violence which esclated into a full-scale revolt in 66 CE. Superior Roman forces led by Titus were finally victorious, razing Jerusalem to the ground (70 CE) and defeating the last Jewish outpost at Masada (73 CE).


THE SOME WHAT QUIET YEARS BEFORE 66AD

Porcius Festus (60-62). A fairly just man , who could not, however, remedy the faults of his predecessors. He was prominent in the proceedings against Paul. Festus died while in office. Until the arrival ofthe new procurator, the high priest
Ananus, son of Annas, exercised a certain power.

Albinus (62-64). Notorious through his extortions.
Gessius Florus (64-66). A contemptible ruler, under whom a revolt of the jewish people took place. In consequence of the war, the procurator's office could be filled either not at all or only de jure, as by Vespasian


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The continual aggression was perpetuated by Nero who raised a false flag blaming hebrew believers in messiah for burning of Rome.However in 66 A.D. the jewish people instigated a rebellion against Roman rule. In 70 A.D., after a 143-day siege which began at Passover, a Roman military force consisting of about 30,000 troops under the command of Titus battered the walls and entered the city. They destroyed everything, including Herod's Temple, exactly as spoken by Jesus Christ 40 years earlier. The population and the great number of Passover visitors who had been trapped there were brutally slaughtered, with an estimated 600,000 to 1,000,000 people killed. Roman General Titus took the precious booty and treasury of the Jerusalem Temple back to Rome, where many suspect it remains to this day. (arch of Titus)

The Roman army then moved over to the city of Caesarea (named after Caesar) on the coast of the Mediterranean Sea where a great many more jewish people were killed. Over 90,000 were taken captive, including the famous historian Flavius Josephus who recorded the events of that era in his work, Wars of The jewish people.

By 70 A.D., Jerusalem and Judea were left desolate, most of the people either killed or being held in captivity, or had become refugees fleeing to remote lands. All that remained in Israel was the defiant little garrison atop the mount at Masada, a fortress complex south of the Dead Sea, which was built by Herod the Great.

Thus when the Temple was destroyed in A.D. 70 the period of the second exile began. (Diaspora) The Judean people were soon to be scattered throughout the earth. For the next 1900 years the true Jeus would have no authority in the land God gave to Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.


DANIEL CHAPTER 9 REMINDS US HERE
He shall make a stronge bonde with many,
for the space of a weke[week] : and when the weke
is half gone, he shal put downe the slayne
and meatoffringe. '' And in the temple there
shall be an abhominable desolacion, till it haue
destroyed all. And it is concluded, and this
waistinge shall continue unto the ende
.

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NOTES:Daniel calls it a time when the power of the holy people will be “scattered” (cp. Acts 8:1, 4). The abomination that brought desolation was the open rebellion of the FALSE Jewish leadership and alliances to Rome who approved of Stephen’s murder. The high priest and the Sanhedrin effectively set themselves up in authority opposing the authority of God. This brought the desolation of the city of Jerusalem and the Temple.



*NEWS FLASH!*

**This is the falling away of the assembly of Israel when they got scattered and butchered they lost faith and are instange lands worshipping Gods of stone and wood.They are trained as gentiles all over the world**.THE MAN OF SIN HAS BEEN REVEALED TO US


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Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;Who
opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he
is God.


Thessalonians 2:1-12 Paul's confirmation

Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things? And now
ye know what withholdeth (restrains) that he might be revealed in his time.

For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.
And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming. (II

@@@@@THAT SIEGE BY ROME IN 70ad WAS THE FALLING AWAY OF THE JUDAH INTO SLAVERY AND THE SCATTERING OF THE PEOPLES TO THE 4 CORNERS OF THE EARTH AS MATTHEW EXPLAINED.WE ARE IN TRIBULATION SINCE THAT TIME.THE MAN OF SIN WAS REVEALED AT THAT TIME AND WE KNOW IT IS THE ROMAN EDOMITE POWERS AND THE PEOPLE YOU CALL JEWISH TODAY WORKING HAND IN HAND.THEY ARE THE SAME BLOOD LINE ESAU'S CHILDREN@@@@@

Baruch's confirmation

XX. Therefore, behold ! the days will come, and
the times will hasten more than the former, and the
seasons will speed on more than those that are past,
and the years will pass more quickly than the present
(years). 2. Therefore have I now taken away Zion,
in order that I may the more speedily visit the
world in its season
. 3. Now therefore hold fast in
thy heart everything that I command thee, and seal
it in the recesses of thy mind.


NOTES: The children of Israel has been removed form the land as confirmed in the both scriptures above.



The abomination and desolation already is in effect because it happened at the killing of messiah and stoning of stephen then the destroying of the temple in 70ad as seen in daniel 9:27.

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*THE KILLING OF MESSIAH WAS THE ABOMINATION* THE DESTRUCTION OF THE HOLY CITY WAS THE DESOLATION



The desolation still continues with the abominations mingled with all the other sins on this earth and things will get worse for people who follow all the laws and commands of tht hebrew God..

Christians,Israelites,Muslims,Bhuddist who follow after the other Gods -- sunday worship...not observing the Sabbath..celebrating all your evil idol holidays eg.
christmas...easter..halloween...remarrying when your spouse is still alive....shacking up...living gay homosexual life styles....fornicators....supporting unjust wars by donating to the edomites in Israel....replacement theology god is done with the hebrews...Going to israel and praying on that wall of idolatry...and all other things you do contrary to the word..GOOD NEWS IS!


LIIUIU

"YOU HAVE NOTHING TO WORRY ABOUT THE BEAST ALREADY HAVE YOU ON HIS TEAM. HE IS AFTER THOSE WHO FOLLOW THE REAL MESSIAH AND OBEY HIS LAWS STATUTES AND COMMANDS."



YOU HAVE A CHOICE TODAY...GET OF YOUR PRIDE AND TRADITION AND SEEK THE LORD FOR ANSWERS..HEBREW OR GENTILE I BEG OF YOU THE TIME IS NOW WAKE UP FROM THE IGNORANCE OF THIS WORLD..JUST LIKE IN THE DAYS OF NOAH THERE WAS DRINKING AND MARRYING.tHERE WAS NO BIG THING THAT HAPPENED BUT A WARNING FROM NOAH AND THEY ALL LAUGHED..THEN SUDDENLY IT STARTED TO RAIN...THE RAIN WILL BE ASSOCIATED WITH THE SIGN OF THE ADVENT OF MESSIAH...THEN THE FLOODS WILL BE THE ANGELS COMING TO TAKE THE ELECT..

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1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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its a study...people are kinda lazy these days and will accept any short falsehood. I did the ground work so it will not be to timely for those whoare truly learning.
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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Obama is the man of perdition and we are very near the time of destruction and the return of the Christ Yahoshuah to redeam the men who are in relationship with Him and His spirit. America is the "Mystery Babylon" the beast is the "Dollar financial system" and we are in the last few remaining years. By the end of 2015 life on earth will be under the rule and rein of the Christ Yahoshuah. Accept Him as your lord and savior and turn away from evil.
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Obama is the man of perdition and we are very near the time of destruction and the return of the Christ Yahoshuah to redeam the men who are in relationship with Him and His spirit. America is the "Mystery Babylon" the beast is the "Dollar financial system" and we are in the last few remaining years. By the end of 2015 life on earth will be under the rule and rein of the Christ Yahoshuah. Accept Him as your lord and savior and turn away from evil.
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that is so wrong...I don't know what bible you guys are reading..Obama is part of the anti christ system just like your churches who don't live the laws of God no more.. It is all a big network..political,relgious military and social
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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Obama is the man of perdition and we are very near the time of destruction and the return of the Christ Yahoshuah to redeam the men who are in relationship with Him and His spirit. America is the "Mystery Babylon" the beast is the "Dollar financial system" and we are in the last few remaining years. By the end of 2015 life on earth will be under the rule and rein of the Christ Yahoshuah. Accept Him as your lord and savior and turn away from evil.
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Obama is a misplaced half-negro loser who's damaged this country almost to the point of failure. He needs to go back to the ghetto where he belongs.

Mr. Jesus was someone from millennia ago that had some good ideas. He made many people happy, but I doubt that he could come back - he's dead and buried. Perhaps there's more to this reality than I know, but those are the perceivable facts.
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Obama is the man of perdition and we are very near the time of destruction and the return of the Christ Yahoshuah to redeam the men who are in relationship with Him and His spirit. America is the "Mystery Babylon" the beast is the "Dollar financial system" and we are in the last few remaining years. By the end of 2015 life on earth will be under the rule and rein of the Christ Yahoshuah. Accept Him as your lord and savior and turn away from evil.
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Obama is a misplaced half-negro loser who's damaged this country almost to the point of failure. He needs to go back to the ghetto where he belongs.

Mr. Jesus was someone from millennia ago that had some good ideas. He made many people happy, but I doubt that he could come back - he's dead and buried. Perhaps there's more to this reality than I know, but those are the perceivable facts.
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sorry Mr whoever you are!
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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the precursor is of course the desolation of the temple by Antiochus Epiphanes IV in Jerusalem- again with Nero.

A modern precursor may be something like the festival of reason celebrated in a desecrated Cathedral of Notre Damn during the French Revolution/false enlightenment.

The image which the false prophet breathes life into causing people to worship it could be something like a TV screen come to life-maybe a holographic being infused with noosphere artificial intelligence. Combine this with the 'mind-reading' remote neural monitoring stuff and I think this is a very real possibility. This is not the only possibility however.
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its a study...people are kinda lazy these days and will accept any short falsehood. I did the ground work so it will not be to timely for those whoare truly learning.
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The middle English sort of got me. I do have a Peshitta though. Barach? I had no ides he had written his own books.

Agreed on the Sabbath and other false gods. Although I would add a few money, Fortune, and Fate. I can't remember the ancient names for them off of the top of my head though.

I've heard similar a similar theory recently.
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What is your position of the horses of Revelation?
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What is your position of the horses of Revelation?
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Four Chariots

6 I looked up again, and there before me were four chariots coming out from between two mountains—mountains of bronze. 2 The first chariot had red horses, the second black, 3 the third white, and the fourth dappled—all of them powerful. 4 I asked the angel who was speaking to me, “What are these, my lord?”

5 The angel answered me, “These are the four spirits[a] of heaven, going out from standing in the presence of the Lord of the whole world. 6 The one with the black horses is going toward the north country, the one with the white horses toward the west, and the one with the dappled horses toward the south.”

7 When the powerful horses went out, they were straining to go throughout the earth. And he said, “Go throughout the earth!” So they went throughout the earth.

8 Then he called to me, “Look, those going toward the north country have given my Spirit[c] rest in the land of the north.”
A Crown for Joshua

9 The word of the Lord came to me: 10 “Take silver and gold from the exiles Heldai, Tobijah and Jedaiah, who have arrived from Babylon. Go the same day to the house of Josiah son of Zephaniah. 11 Take the silver and gold and make a crown, and set it on the head of the high priest, Joshua son of Jozadak.[d] 12 Tell him this is what the Lord Almighty says: ‘Here is the man whose name is the Branch, and he will branch out from his place and build the temple of the Lord. 13 It is he who will build the temple of the Lord, and he will be clothed with majesty and will sit and rule on his throne. And he[e] will be a priest on his throne. And there will be harmony between the two.’ 14 The crown will be given to Heldai,[f] Tobijah, Jedaiah and Hen[g] son of Zephaniah as a memorial in the temple of the Lord. 15 Those who are far away will come and help to build the temple of the Lord, and you will know that the Lord Almighty has sent me to you. This will happen if you diligently obey the Lord your God.”
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waste of breath discussing it

when the fact of the matter is you will all find out soon enough at this point

some by default with the earth changes

the rest the "hard way" in every regard
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You think it's a waste of breath to engage in dialogue in order to better understand contemporary/historical/future events in light of scripture?

I'm sorry to hear that.
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Obama is the man of perdition and we are very near the time of destruction and the return of the Christ Yahoshuah to redeam the men who are in relationship with Him and His spirit. America is the "Mystery Babylon" the beast is the "Dollar financial system" and we are in the last few remaining years. By the end of 2015 life on earth will be under the rule and rein of the Christ Yahoshuah. Accept Him as your lord and savior and turn away from evil.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25834232


that is so wrong...I don't know what bible you guys are reading..Obama is part of the anti christ system just like your churches who don't live the laws of God no more.. It is all a big network..political,relgious military and social
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar

100% correct!

Thank you for another wonderful Bible study. Although I know most here will scoff and dismiss the truth of what you have posted, I hope some will have their eyes opened and understand the glimpse of truth they have been given

I used to write these types of Bible studies here about three to four years ago, but I grew frustrated and tired at the very strong influence the enemy has here. So eventually I surrendered and stopped because the resistance to Biblical Truth is so strong here that I found it emotionally draining.

These days I limit myself to short answers to specific questions posted by others. Such as the thread on this subject posted yesterday.

Anyway, I pray for you and hope you will remain strong and keep up the good work, regardless of the obstacles and willingly ignorant people the enemy uses against you.

hf
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Obama is the man of perdition and we are very near the time of destruction and the return of the Christ Yahoshuah to redeam the men who are in relationship with Him and His spirit. America is the "Mystery Babylon" the beast is the "Dollar financial system" and we are in the last few remaining years. By the end of 2015 life on earth will be under the rule and rein of the Christ Yahoshuah. Accept Him as your lord and savior and turn away from evil.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25834232


that is so wrong...I don't know what bible you guys are reading..Obama is part of the anti christ system just like your churches who don't live the laws of God no more.. It is all a big network..political,relgious military and social
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar

100% correct!

Thank you for another wonderful Bible study. Although I know most here will scoff and dismiss the truth of what you have posted, I hope some will have their eyes opened and understand the glimpse of truth they have been given

I used to write these types of Bible studies here about three to four years ago, but I grew frustrated and tired at the very strong influence the enemy has here. So eventually I surrendered and stopped because the resistance to Biblical Truth is so strong here that I found it emotionally draining.

These days I limit myself to short answers to specific questions posted by others. Such as the thread on this subject posted yesterday.

Anyway, I pray for you and hope you will remain strong and keep up the good work, regardless of the obstacles and willingly ignorant people the enemy uses against you.

hf
 Quoting: THE TRUTH 24808382

Thank you for your support in this manner and I know you were sent from the heavenly father to stregthen my faith.It does take alot out of us especially when some puppet seminarian theological christians motivated by satan comes on the threads most of them to cause chaos and misdirection.
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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What is your position of the horses of Revelation?
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the four horses specify the layers of events as regarding the degenerating of the world.They are all progressive and are in oreder overlapping into each other as time progresses.
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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Obama is the man of perdition and we are very near the time of destruction and the return of the Christ Yahoshuah to redeam the men who are in relationship with Him and His spirit. America is the "Mystery Babylon" the beast is the "Dollar financial system" and we are in the last few remaining years. By the end of 2015 life on earth will be under the rule and rein of the Christ Yahoshuah. Accept Him as your lord and savior and turn away from evil.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25834232


that is so wrong...I don't know what bible you guys are reading..Obama is part of the anti christ system just like your churches who don't live the laws of God no more.. It is all a big network..political,relgious military and social
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar

100% correct!

Thank you for another wonderful Bible study. Although I know most here will scoff and dismiss the truth of what you have posted, I hope some will have their eyes opened and understand the glimpse of truth they have been given

I used to write these types of Bible studies here about three to four years ago, but I grew frustrated and tired at the very strong influence the enemy has here. So eventually I surrendered and stopped because the resistance to Biblical Truth is so strong here that I found it emotionally draining.

These days I limit myself to short answers to specific questions posted by others. Such as the thread on this subject posted yesterday.

Anyway, I pray for you and hope you will remain strong and keep up the good work, regardless of the obstacles and willingly ignorant people the enemy uses against you.

hf
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amen!

hf
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Obama is the man of perdition and we are very near the time of destruction and the return of the Christ Yahoshuah to redeam the men who are in relationship with Him and His spirit. America is the "Mystery Babylon" the beast is the "Dollar financial system" and we are in the last few remaining years. By the end of 2015 life on earth will be under the rule and rein of the Christ Yahoshuah. Accept Him as your lord and savior and turn away from evil.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25834232


that is so wrong...I don't know what bible you guys are reading..Obama is part of the anti christ system just like your churches who don't live the laws of God no more.. It is all a big network..political,relgious military and social
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar

100% correct!

Thank you for another wonderful Bible study. Although I know most here will scoff and dismiss the truth of what you have posted, I hope some will have their eyes opened and understand the glimpse of truth they have been given

I used to write these types of Bible studies here about three to four years ago, but I grew frustrated and tired at the very strong influence the enemy has here. So eventually I surrendered and stopped because the resistance to Biblical Truth is so strong here that I found it emotionally draining.

These days I limit myself to short answers to specific questions posted by others. Such as the thread on this subject posted yesterday.

Anyway, I pray for you and hope you will remain strong and keep up the good work, regardless of the obstacles and willingly ignorant people the enemy uses against you.

hf
 Quoting: THE TRUTH 24808382



amen!

hf
 Quoting: dschis1000

ditto and blessings brethren
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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Obama is the man of perdition and we are very near the time of destruction and the return of the Christ Yahoshuah to redeam the men who are in relationship with Him and His spirit. America is the "Mystery Babylon" the beast is the "Dollar financial system" and we are in the last few remaining years. By the end of 2015 life on earth will be under the rule and rein of the Christ Yahoshuah. Accept Him as your lord and savior and turn away from evil.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25834232


that is so wrong...I don't know what bible you guys are reading..Obama is part of the anti christ system just like your churches who don't live the laws of God no more.. It is all a big network..political,relgious military and social
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar

100% correct!

Thank you for another wonderful Bible study. Although I know most here will scoff and dismiss the truth of what you have posted, I hope some will have their eyes opened and understand the glimpse of truth they have been given

I used to write these types of Bible studies here about three to four years ago, but I grew frustrated and tired at the very strong influence the enemy has here. So eventually I surrendered and stopped because the resistance to Biblical Truth is so strong here that I found it emotionally draining.

These days I limit myself to short answers to specific questions posted by others. Such as the thread on this subject posted yesterday.

Anyway, I pray for you and hope you will remain strong and keep up the good work, regardless of the obstacles and willingly ignorant people the enemy uses against you.

hf
 Quoting: THE TRUTH 24808382

Thank you for your support in this manner and I know you were sent from the heavenly father to stregthen my faith.It does take alot out of us especially when some puppet seminarian theological christians motivated by satan comes on the threads most of them to cause chaos and misdirection.
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar


bumphf for truth!
Love is a state of Being. Your love is not outside; it is deep within you. You can never lose it, and it cannot leave you. You can feel the same life deep within every other human and every other creature. You look beyond the veil of form and separation. This is the realization of oneness. This is love. What is God? The Eternal One Life underneath all the forms of life. What is love? To feel the presence of that One Life deep within yourself and within all creatures. To be it. Therefore, all love is the love of God.

Death is a stripping away of all that is not you. The secret of life is to die before you die - and find that there is no death.
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Love is a state of Being. Your love is not outside; it is deep within you. You can never lose it, and it cannot leave you. You can feel the same life deep within every other human and every other creature. You look beyond the veil of form and separation. This is the realization of oneness. This is love. What is God? The Eternal One Life underneath all the forms of life. What is love? To feel the presence of that One Life deep within yourself and within all creatures. To be it. Therefore, all love is the love of God.

Death is a stripping away of all that is not you. The secret of life is to die before you die - and find that there is no death.
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False teacher.

And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth. Revelation 11:3
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False teacher.

And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth. Revelation 11:3
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They come just before the 7th Trump. They have not yet come. We are in the final week of Daniels Seventy Seven weeks. The Beast is Satan himself, he will inhabit a Man.
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False teacher.

And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth. Revelation 11:3
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Do you also dispute that the false Prophet is not also a Man?



Revelation 13:4-9

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4 And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?

5 And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.

6 And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven.

7 And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.

8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.

9 If any man have an ear, let him hear.
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False teacher.

And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth. Revelation 11:3
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26052653


They come just before the 7th Trump. They have not yet come. We are in the final week of Daniels Seventy Seven weeks. The Beast is Satan himself, he will inhabit a Man.
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The seventieth week was the seven year ministry of Jesus Christ on the earth. He was cut off (killed) in the midst of the week, but not for Himself.
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False teacher.

And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth. Revelation 11:3
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26052653


Do you also dispute that the false Prophet is not also a Man?



Revelation 13:4-9

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4 And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?

5 And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.

6 And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven.

7 And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.

8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.

9 If any man have an ear, let him hear.
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False teacher.

And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth. Revelation 11:3
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They come just before the 7th Trump. They have not yet come. We are in the final week of Daniels Seventy Seven weeks. The Beast is Satan himself, he will inhabit a Man.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26052653

The seventieth week was the seven year ministry of Jesus Christ on the earth. He was cut off (killed) in the midst of the week, but not for Himself.
 Quoting: THE TRUTH 24808382


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False teacher.

And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth. Revelation 11:3
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cccccclol

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1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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False teacher.

And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth. Revelation 11:3
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26052653


They come just before the 7th Trump. They have not yet come. We are in the final week of Daniels Seventy Seven weeks. The Beast is Satan himself, he will inhabit a Man.
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...


Well it contradicts the verses I posted. And I was talking about the other poster on this thread who corrected you.
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Henry Makow (born November 12, 1949) is a Canadian author, conspiracy theorist and the inventor of the boardgame Scruples.[1]


Henry Makow (born November 12, 1949) is a Canadian author, conspiracy theorist and the inventor of the boardgame Scruples.[1]


Henry Makow (born November 12, 1949) is a Canadian author, conspiracy theorist and the inventor of the boardgame Scruples.[1]


Henry Makow (born November 12, 1949) is a Canadian author, conspiracy theorist and the inventor of the boardgame Scruples.[1]


THIS MORE HILARIOUS THAN EVER! YOU PEOPLE ARE CRAZY! A CONSPIRACY THEORIST TEACHING YOU THE BIBLE! LOL

THE GUY INVENTS GAMES! COME ON NOW!THIS IS WHO YOU LOOK TO FOR GUIDANCE

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If the guy was a bin man, I would not prejudice him like you have just done because he wrote a very factual and intelligent article.
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Henry Makow (born November 12, 1949) is a Canadian author, conspiracy theorist and the inventor of the boardgame Scruples.[1]


Henry Makow (born November 12, 1949) is a Canadian author, conspiracy theorist and the inventor of the boardgame Scruples.[1]


Henry Makow (born November 12, 1949) is a Canadian author, conspiracy theorist and the inventor of the boardgame Scruples.[1]


Henry Makow (born November 12, 1949) is a Canadian author, conspiracy theorist and the inventor of the boardgame Scruples.[1]


THIS MORE HILARIOUS THAN EVER! YOU PEOPLE ARE CRAZY! A CONSPIRACY THEORIST TEACHING YOU THE BIBLE! LOL

THE GUY INVENTS GAMES! COME ON NOW!THIS IS WHO YOU LOOK TO FOR GUIDANCE

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1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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