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British Company Makes Petrol From Air.

 
alexisj9

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10/20/2012 06:59 PM
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When the device was hooked to a bus exhaust system, the device fed the bus it's own converted exhaust fuel and ran the bus on an infinite loop of fuel.
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Now this is something very worth looking into, I do hope this idea gets going. I expect greed to win as usual though.
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Totally stupid and useless since you could just use the freed hydrogen as a much more efficient fuel before you started wasting time and energy to construct hydrocarbons with it.
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So why don't you do it since you know so much
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My point is that there is no reason to do it. I built and studied various electrolysis devices while earning my degree. Obtaining hydrogen from water is conventional, easy, and can range from inefficient to medium efficiency.

Why would you take that any further? Why use energy to change a pure fuel into something else? It has already been demonstrated that gasoline engines can be converted to hydrogen. It would be insane to waste energy bonding hydrogen with carbon dioxide to create a fuel for the mere convenience of not having to do any conversions...
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10/20/2012 07:00 PM
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It won't be long before that technology gets bought up and shelved, like every other clean fuel alternative someone thinks up.
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indeed. We got a smart thinker here...
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10/20/2012 07:01 PM
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When the device was hooked to a bus exhaust system, the device fed the bus it's own converted exhaust fuel and ran the bus on an infinite loop of fuel.
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The perpetual motion machine. Are they selling shares?stoner
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10/20/2012 07:03 PM
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When was the last time Brits invented something useful instead of financial shannigans?
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10/20/2012 07:03 PM
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When the device was hooked to a bus exhaust system, the device fed the bus it's own converted exhaust fuel and ran the bus on an infinite loop of fuel.
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not only that, also had the desirable side effect of producing gingerbread men all holding hands and singing harry chapin tunes
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10/20/2012 07:04 PM
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Surely this is a worse option than Bio fuel, where the plants would be capturing the C02 from the air and using free solar energy in the process
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10/20/2012 07:08 PM
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When the device was hooked to a bus exhaust system, the device fed the bus it's own converted exhaust fuel and ran the bus on an infinite loop of fuel.
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sure it did
I am stupid enough to believe that.
where can I buy some shares?
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10/20/2012 07:14 PM
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commits suicide handcuffed and shot in the back of the head, twice.

leave my co2 alone your going to kill the plants. you know the ones that exhale O2 for us to breath.

fact; 5 times more polar bears then the 50's

fact; polar bears can swim 200 miles.

fact; polar bears hunt wales and seals from ice floats.

fact; CO2 is not a greenhouse gas because "a greenhouse" has never been seen, or found in the record.

Fact; Al gore sold his green holdings and is now invested in (wait for it) Natural GAS !

Fact; global warming is a lie. the hockey stick inventor recanted along with most of the UN scientist that invented this shit. Its the sun stupid!

fact; the USGS has admitted ti abiotic oil and gas. the gas is called "tight gas" and the oil is called "continuous oil"

fact; if you feel backed into a corner on global warming, just walk out of it and join reality.
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10/20/2012 08:00 PM
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FairiesWearBoots  (OP)

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10/20/2012 08:12 PM
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And the clean fuel winner is….

Solar energy in the form of solar photovoltaic (PV) cells might be the academic clean fuel winner, but that’s as far as it goes at this point. While PVs are a clean fuel option with zero emissions, a low 15% energy conversion rate isn’t an efficient option. Whether your future car completely utilizes a fuel cell or is a hybrid, electricity is the most viable clean fuel for the immediate future. Increased development of wind and solar generated power plants, combined with improved fuel cells, will encourage production of these clean fuel cars.

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10/20/2012 08:18 PM
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It won't be long before that technology gets bought up and shelved, like every other clean fuel alternative someone thinks up.
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Sick, isn't it?

I was even thinking how long would it be till the guy gets suicided.
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10/20/2012 08:44 PM
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It won't be long before that technology gets bought up and shelved, like every other clean fuel alternative someone thinks up.
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They'll put it on the shelf right beside the cancer cures and cold fusion. You got it right bud.
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10/20/2012 08:46 PM
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Sick, isn't it?

I was even thinking how long would it be till the guy gets suicided.
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what is truly sick is that so many posters are replying as if this is a clean energy source

HEY FOLKS THIS IS FAR MORE ENVIRONMENTALLY UNSOUND THAN FOSSIL/ABIOTIC OIL/GAS BECAUSE INSTEAD OF USING THE ATMOSPHERE AS A CATALYST THIS USES THE ATMOSPHERE AS A FUL AND CONVERTS IT TO CO YES CO NOT CO2 I'M TALKING CARBON MONOXIDE



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10/20/2012 08:46 PM
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The oil companies may well try to buy this tech. But once the "formula" for making it is out there, someone else will figure a way to do so around the patents the big oil will pay so dearly for.

The other possibility is that Big Oil may feel that using this tech will give them something to see (albeit at a high price) while the wars are being fought in the middle east to see if they will continue to have access to the known oil fields there - or if they'll be rendered radio-active and glow in the dark for the next five thousand years and have so much radiation that no human can enter the area without a lead suit for the next 500 years.

Better to buy this tech and have SOMETHING to put thru their refineries and put into their stations empty tanks than to be forced to close down half the gas stations in the country and eat the loss on the real estate alone - which would be horrendous beyond imagination!

One more possibility is the once someone has figured out how to do this others will follow suit. If it takes energy it can be made using solar power if you don't mind working during the daylight hours only. A few million in solar panels and inverters can create one HELL OF A LOT of electric power. That in turn can be stored in capacitors, batteries, flywheels, used to heat water to near the point where it flashes into steam, etc. Unless it takes VASTLY more power going in to make the molecules combine in the proper way than the gross amount of power the substance can put out - it should not be beyond the pale to find one of several dozen way to make the power needed to make the substance.
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10/20/2012 08:48 PM
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A small British company has produced the first "petrol from air" using a revolutionary technology that promises to solve the energy crisis as well as helping to curb global warming by removing carbon dioxide from the atmosphere.

"We've taken carbon dioxide from air and hydrogen from water and turned these elements into petrol," said Peter Harrison, the company's chief executive, who revealed the breakthrough at a conference at the Institution of Mechanical Engineers in London.

"There's nobody else doing it in this country or indeed overseas as far as we know. It looks and smells like petrol but it's a much cleaner and clearer product than petrol derived from fossil oil," Mr Harrison told The Independent.

"We don't have any of the additives and nasty bits found in conventional petrol, and yet our fuel can be used in existing engines," he said.

[link to www.independent.co.uk]
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heads up, oil doesnt come from fossils
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10/20/2012 08:52 PM
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Well those poor souls will be dead or missing soon! We've also had the hydrogen engine for 100 years and don't hear shit about that anymore either.
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10/20/2012 08:54 PM
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sorry for the earlier typo


HEY FOLKS THIS IS FAR MORE ENVIRONMENTALLY UNSOUND THAN FOSSIL/ABIOTIC OIL/GAS BECAUSE INSTEAD OF USING THE ATMOSPHERE AS A CATALYST THIS USES THE ATMOSPHERE AS A FUEL AND CONVERTS IT TO CO YES CO NOT CO2 I'M TALKING CARBON MONOXIDE




continue to ignore this geniuses
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10/20/2012 08:55 PM
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A small British company has produced the first "petrol from air" using a revolutionary technology that promises to solve the energy crisis as well as helping to curb global warming by removing carbon dioxide from the atmosphere.

"We've taken carbon dioxide from air and hydrogen from water and turned these elements into petrol," said Peter Harrison, the company's chief executive, who revealed the breakthrough at a conference at the Institution of Mechanical Engineers in London.

"There's nobody else doing it in this country or indeed overseas as far as we know. It looks and smells like petrol but it's a much cleaner and clearer product than petrol derived from fossil oil," Mr Harrison told The Independent.

"We don't have any of the additives and nasty bits found in conventional petrol, and yet our fuel can be used in existing engines," he said.

[link to www.independent.co.uk]
 Quoting: FairiesWearBoots

CO2 is the product of burning a carbon fuel. To turn it back into a fuel, energy must be supplied. Plants get that energy from the sun, when converting CO2 to biomass. Where does this process get the energy?
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10/20/2012 08:55 PM
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So now we're going to run out of air just so oil companies can make a quick buck ???

What is the price of air ??????
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putin
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10/20/2012 08:57 PM
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That guy is going yo have a " heart attack"
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^^^^^^

THIS
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10/20/2012 09:04 PM
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well it's official


90% only respond to post #1, never even bothering to read the entire thread


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10/20/2012 09:16 PM
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It won't be long before that technology gets bought up and shelved, like every other clean fuel alternative someone thinks up.
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bump
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10/20/2012 09:23 PM
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So this guy discovered how to make moonshine.
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10/20/2012 09:42 PM
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A small British company has produced the first "petrol from air" using a revolutionary technology that promises to solve the energy crisis as well as helping to curb global warming by removing carbon dioxide from the atmosphere.

"We've taken carbon dioxide from air and hydrogen from water and turned these elements into petrol," said Peter Harrison, the company's chief executive, who revealed the breakthrough at a conference at the Institution of Mechanical Engineers in London.

"There's nobody else doing it in this country or indeed overseas as far as we know. It looks and smells like petrol but it's a much cleaner and clearer product than petrol derived from fossil oil," Mr Harrison told The Independent.

"We don't have any of the additives and nasty bits found in conventional petrol, and yet our fuel can be used in existing engines," he said.

[link to www.independent.co.uk]
 Quoting: FairiesWearBoots


what will the trees feed on? trees use carbon in during photosynthesis to create sugars to use as energy, one byproduct of this reaction is oxygen that we breath. i'm pretty sure taking this carbon from the air will cause problems on a mass scale, but very good idea. hopefully they can fine tune it so that they only take a small percentage of the carbon. if the trees have now evolved over the past few generations to live with high carbon levels, then there could be a die off of trees that need that excess carbon. it should only take a few generations to rectify itself, but it is still worth consideration and i hope this company took that into its process design.
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10/20/2012 11:23 PM
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well, unless they are using solar power to do it, sounds like a zero sum game
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right on!
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10/20/2012 11:24 PM
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Too bad the limeys can't find a way to make gasoline from air.
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What happened to this stuff?

Arlington scientists find way to make cheap gas from coal
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10/21/2012 01:57 AM
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by removing carbon dioxide from the atmosphere.

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That makes it sound like they want to remove all of the carbon dioxide, which is the most important gas for life on this planet.

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