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The Undertow

 
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Houdini was supposed to keep it a secret

But he got loose

lol
 Quoting: Open Your Eyes


lol now you mock me. You are truly an enigma.
 Quoting: Cheshire~Cat


wrapped in a riddle

couldn't help myself

that was the joker in me

lol
 Quoting: Open Your Eyes


If you're not a sissy...I have an exercise for you. This will make you legit in my eyes. As I see it now, you're a joker in every sense of the word.

Get a couple big candles & a couple of approx 2 foot candlesticks. Get a black mirror. Go in an empty room. It has to be completely empty. Even a large closet might work.

Set the mirror against the wall on the floor. Put a pillow in the middle of the room. Set the 2 candles behind you, about even to your left and right, so you can see them in your mirror.

Remember. The candles represent all 4 elements when lit. Fire, earth (wax), water (melted wax) and air.

Now sit on the pillow. lights off. candles lit behind you. stare into that black mirror for a good 10 mins.

Report back. Hopefully your skin will have retained its color.
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I have done this i saw myself dissapear, nothing but emptyness looking back at me.
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It's amazing that everyone who does this sees "a famous person." Cool how we were all "a famous person."

If you do this right, what will happen is you will forget who you are. Your face will seem completely foreign to you and you will forget your name, your family, your identity. That's what death will be like too by the way.

Seeing or thinking a person's "name" means yer doing it wrong. When the consciousness shifts to the spiritual, names/people/faces/identities are COMPLETELY IRRELEVANT as they are in the spiritual realm.

The spirit does not know what Genghis Kahn, or Einstein, or Abraham Lincoln means because the spirit does not speak English, have ears, have a brain, or even give a shit.

You'll see.
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It's amazing that everyone who does this sees "a famous person." Cool how we were all "a famous person."

If you do this right, what will happen is you will forget who you are. Your face will seem completely foreign to you and you will forget your name, your family, your identity. That's what death will be like too by the way.

Seeing or thinking a person's "name" means yer doing it wrong. When the consciousness shifts to the spiritual, names/people/faces/identities are COMPLETELY IRRELEVANT as they are in the spiritual realm.

The spirit does not know what Genghis Kahn, or Einstein, or Abraham Lincoln means because the spirit does not speak English, have ears, have a brain, or even give a shit.

You'll see.
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This is the best response.
~How fine you look when dressed in rage. Your enemies are fortunate your condition is not permanent. You're lucky, too. Red eyes suit so few.

~Only a few find the way, some don't recognize it when they do - some... don't ever want to.
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Alright so I am back.

The Results are....

Genghis Khan

That name appeared in my head during the mediation while my face started to morph into his.
 Quoting: Open Your Eyes


where you familiar with him before you you tried this experiment thingy ma jiger?
 Quoting: WulfGodwinson


Never really looked into Genghis Khan before tonight.

Currently I thought my past lives were:

John Dee
Helena Blavatsky
Baal Shem Tov

Some others possibilities have been:

Aleister Crowley
Alexander The Great
Adolf Hitler
St. Peter
Abraham
Isaac Newton
Confucius
Saladin
Muhammad
Buddha
 Quoting: Open Your Eyes


You're trying too hard. Let's suppose you actually nail it down...then what?

I would work on perceiving and escaping the reincarnation wheel.
~How fine you look when dressed in rage. Your enemies are fortunate your condition is not permanent. You're lucky, too. Red eyes suit so few.

~Only a few find the way, some don't recognize it when they do - some... don't ever want to.
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It's easy...but once you're in...you're in.
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In where?

I thought you are not apart of any group.
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You cannot "unsee"...is what I meant.
~How fine you look when dressed in rage. Your enemies are fortunate your condition is not permanent. You're lucky, too. Red eyes suit so few.

~Only a few find the way, some don't recognize it when they do - some... don't ever want to.
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hey op are you an immortal?
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We all are.
~How fine you look when dressed in rage. Your enemies are fortunate your condition is not permanent. You're lucky, too. Red eyes suit so few.

~Only a few find the way, some don't recognize it when they do - some... don't ever want to.
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okey dokey thanks for the info!!!!! Will you share your experience when you did it? Could you figure out people that you were?

Care if I ask you your views on this whole "the nobody" stuff going on?
Are you a mam or sir?
 Quoting: Cheshire~Cat


I am sir. "the nobody" is stupid bullsh**. Even wasting a thought on it, to me, is repugnant.

I'm not allowed to share any experiences, as well as anyone who has had real contact. I can only show the way. It's easy...but once you're in...you're in.
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Oh okay. I kind of have a lot of random questions I would like to ask you/talk to you about. Do you mind if I load you with questions? I am a lot like Alex.

Is there anything you can share on what is to come in the remainder of this year/into next year about any type of conscious shift/dna shift/whatever that will take place and actually make a difference in the world?

Not to bring up the whole nobody stuff, i am sorry, but do you expect a certain individual of whatever type of manifestation to lead an awakening?

If my questions bore you, it would be cool if you could ramble on about anything you think is interesting or you think would be helpful/of interest to someone who is alike you...or was like you at some point. I am 24 by the way and male.
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What is to come is a new paradigm of reality for many people.

I believe that there is a certain individual who will bring about an awakening. Call it someone who has discovered the truth. Someone capable of planting a seed that will cascade throughout humanity. Unfortunately, my perception of this is very vague and it might be polluted by my knowledge of the Nag Hammadi texts. Read: The hypostasis of the Archons. It will probably be the most important text you'll ever read.

You questions do not bore me in the slightest.
~How fine you look when dressed in rage. Your enemies are fortunate your condition is not permanent. You're lucky, too. Red eyes suit so few.

~Only a few find the way, some don't recognize it when they do - some... don't ever want to.
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You're trying too hard. Let's suppose you actually nail it down...then what?
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Then I would know what "gifts" I can harvest from my "past" to my benefit in my "present".
 Quoting: Open Your Eyes


What if it weren't up to you? This knowledge you seek is vanity. Real gnosis is what the entities have to offer.

There are those out there that simply know better than us. Show the utmost humility and respect if you're blessed enough to be contacted.
~How fine you look when dressed in rage. Your enemies are fortunate your condition is not permanent. You're lucky, too. Red eyes suit so few.

~Only a few find the way, some don't recognize it when they do - some... don't ever want to.
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You're trying too hard. Let's suppose you actually nail it down...then what?
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Then I would know what "gifts" I can harvest from my "past" to my benefit in my "present".
 Quoting: Open Your Eyes


What if it weren't up to you? This knowledge you seek is vanity. Real gnosis is what the entities have to offer.
 Quoting: Cheshire~Cat


It is not vanity wanting to know what my past lives were.

I want to know if I was a dictator or a magician.
 Quoting: Open Your Eyes


You'll get the most benefit going in with no expectations. You'll get the least going in with expectations.

That's the best way I can put it. I hope you get results that are useful to you. Peace. :)
~How fine you look when dressed in rage. Your enemies are fortunate your condition is not permanent. You're lucky, too. Red eyes suit so few.

~Only a few find the way, some don't recognize it when they do - some... don't ever want to.
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10/22/2012 10:20 AM
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Cheshire,

Tell me why you are sold on your perspective.

The thing about this reality is that it allows people to perceive differently.

And they are all right...in their OWN reality.

Did you ever notice how all these different "secret" socities all know THE TRUTH.

They can't ALL be right, can they?

So what does that tell us?

The Universe not only allows different Truths to be True in different realities.

The Universe actually ENCOURAGES it.

Almost like the Universe is harvesting as many perspectives as possible.
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I am sold on nothing. My reality changes every second of the day. I have absorbed everything I can in this dimension, I seek it from those who know more than I do.

My message was to convey that there are no limitations. There is no taboo in terms of knowledge or spiritual advancement.
~How fine you look when dressed in rage. Your enemies are fortunate your condition is not permanent. You're lucky, too. Red eyes suit so few.

~Only a few find the way, some don't recognize it when they do - some... don't ever want to.
Cheshire~Cat (OP)

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So your perspective is Atlantean.

Another perspective is we are Martian.

Another one is that we are Arcturian.

So WHO is right?

And how can you PROVE this across ALL realities?
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Why are you asking me? Do you think I know?
~How fine you look when dressed in rage. Your enemies are fortunate your condition is not permanent. You're lucky, too. Red eyes suit so few.

~Only a few find the way, some don't recognize it when they do - some... don't ever want to.
Cheshire~Cat (OP)

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Quantum Mechanics allows ALL possibilities to exist.

And The Observer decides what is SEEN in their particular realities.

All things are possible....if you can only SEE (OBSERVE) them.
 Quoting: Open Your Eyes


Indeed.
~How fine you look when dressed in rage. Your enemies are fortunate your condition is not permanent. You're lucky, too. Red eyes suit so few.

~Only a few find the way, some don't recognize it when they do - some... don't ever want to.
Cheshire~Cat (OP)

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So your perspective is Atlantean.

Another perspective is we are Martian.

Another one is that we are Arcturian.

So WHO is right?

And how can you PROVE this across ALL realities?
 Quoting: Open Your Eyes


Why are you asking me? Do you think I know?
 Quoting: Cheshire~Cat


A good student teaches his Sensei
 Quoting: Open Your Eyes


Mirror mirror on the wall. Who's the fairest one of all?
~How fine you look when dressed in rage. Your enemies are fortunate your condition is not permanent. You're lucky, too. Red eyes suit so few.

~Only a few find the way, some don't recognize it when they do - some... don't ever want to.
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Quantum Mechanics allows ALL possibilities to exist.

And The Observer decides what is SEEN in their particular realities.

All things are possible....if you can only SEE (OBSERVE) them.
 Quoting: Open Your Eyes


So how can one OBSERVE the UNSEEN world?

Interesting question, yes.
 Quoting: Open Your Eyes


I already told you how :)

Like someone said in another thread I was looking at today: "Once your ego dissolves, shit gets real"

Last Edited by Cheshire~Cat on 10/22/2012 10:31 AM
~How fine you look when dressed in rage. Your enemies are fortunate your condition is not permanent. You're lucky, too. Red eyes suit so few.

~Only a few find the way, some don't recognize it when they do - some... don't ever want to.
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u should listen alex. listen hard. dont listen at all. let it fall and never reassemble a new start. its all going to be ok
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is there anything outside of yourself? except your



freedom



ha.
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Happiness arises from a state of perfect balance between material needs and spiritual aspiratios.

Happiness is what you're ultimately seeking, yes?
~How fine you look when dressed in rage. Your enemies are fortunate your condition is not permanent. You're lucky, too. Red eyes suit so few.

~Only a few find the way, some don't recognize it when they do - some... don't ever want to.
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stop playing the game. it only exists because you play with them.



rules are funny



cause some problems. i dare you.
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is there anything outside of yourself? except your

freedom

ha.
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Are you telling me to get out of my own way?

What if I am the Universe?

How can the Source remove itself from the Source?
 Quoting: Open Your Eyes


now youre on to some/nothing of little or lot importance


does a mirror know it sees a mirror...or it the reflection really real
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stop playing the game. it only exists because you play with them.

rules are funny

cause some problems. i dare you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20313843


Life is the game.

It has rules (natural laws)
 Quoting: Open Your Eyes



a system has rules.

true creative spirit has only itself as the boundaries.

only you can make this statement true by dissolving everything. even dissolving the prize. only rules have some fucking raddle with pretty colors on it as a prize so you can get ready for the next set of rules to follow.


and yes you gotta get the fuck out of your own way tounge
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is there anything outside of yourself? except your

freedom

ha.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20313843


Are you telling me to get out of my own way?

What if I am the Universe?

How can the Source remove itself from the Source?
 Quoting: Open Your Eyes


now youre on to some/nothing of little or lot importance

does a mirror know it sees a mirror...or it the reflection really real
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20313843


Mirrors are not conscious.

Humans are.
 Quoting: Open Your Eyes



if you say so.
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will you become free??

stop asking the mirror and start telling yourself what truth is, then truth becomes.


fascinating really


this is a wake up call from



you



say hello.

smile and wave.

and move on.

look around, stop dancing on your wooden horse


because its all about you. it's always has been


it's all about me too. but how do you see that?

do i see you? what do I see to you?


fuck all ideologies and begin creating your own.
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read everything i've said without judgement. it was meant just for you just for now.
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*sigh*

It is necessary to settle on something: bad rules are better
than no rules at all.
~How fine you look when dressed in rage. Your enemies are fortunate your condition is not permanent. You're lucky, too. Red eyes suit so few.

~Only a few find the way, some don't recognize it when they do - some... don't ever want to.
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will you become free??

stop asking the mirror and start telling yourself what truth is, then truth becomes.

fascinating really

this is a wake up call from

you

say hello.

smile and wave.

and move on.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20313843


I ain't going anywhere until I buy into the money system.

And that is not something I am prepared to do.
 Quoting: Open Your Eyes


why not?

i dont understand.
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*sigh*

It is necessary to settle on something: bad rules are better
than no rules at all.
 Quoting: Cheshire~Cat


with a screen name like yours you should know that no rules are any better than the next....
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*sigh*

It is necessary to settle on something: bad rules are better
than no rules at all.
 Quoting: Cheshire~Cat


with a screen name like yours you should know that no rules are any better than the next....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20313843


At least with bad rules you can be corrected. No rules are a lack of direction. Floating out there is dangerous.
~How fine you look when dressed in rage. Your enemies are fortunate your condition is not permanent. You're lucky, too. Red eyes suit so few.

~Only a few find the way, some don't recognize it when they do - some... don't ever want to.
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will you become free??

stop asking the mirror and start telling yourself what truth is, then truth becomes.

fascinating really

this is a wake up call from

you

say hello.

smile and wave.

and move on.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20313843


I ain't going anywhere until I buy into the money system.

And that is not something I am prepared to do.
 Quoting: Open Your Eyes


why not?

i dont understand.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20313843


I can pretend the money system doesn't exist and just live inside my own head.

However that thinking won't buy me a plane ticket to California.
 Quoting: Open Your Eyes


but we will never collectively move forward (or you personally individually) if souls like yourself contintue to apply your slice of reality in that direction.

i hope you ponder my ideas i must be on my way

i only mean the best for you.

because i care for you. and idk how but i know u.

and u know me
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tounge
Difficulties strengthen the Mind as labor does the body...
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It's amazing that everyone who does this sees "a famous person." Cool how we were all "a famous person."

If you do this right, what will happen is you will forget who you are. Your face will seem completely foreign to you and you will forget your name, your family, your identity. That's what death will be like too by the way.

Seeing or thinking a person's "name" means yer doing it wrong. When the consciousness shifts to the spiritual, names/people/faces/identities are COMPLETELY IRRELEVANT as they are in the spiritual realm.

The spirit does not know what Genghis Kahn, or Einstein, or Abraham Lincoln means because the spirit does not speak English, have ears, have a brain, or even give a shit.

You'll see.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8036987


What is really exciting and an adventure, is do it while in the astral, with specific intentions in mind as you are doing it. While in the astral doing this, you can Become the image in the mirror. I wouldn't recommend this though. It can be quite traumatic, that is even if you can stay lucid long enough to achieve this.
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